Let me know what you plan on crafting in the comments below!

@notbateman4298

4 күн бұрын

I adore my recon + desperate measures combo

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

@notbateman4298 Yes, that's exactly what im crafting for general play.

@korn20293

4 күн бұрын

im think to do 2 perks for more boss damage

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

@@korn20293 nice. 👌

@threeofjays6420

4 күн бұрын

I will say last season had a lmg of slice n hatchling

This weapon saved me from missing out on commemoration lol

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

It's definitely a great alternative for those who don't raid.

@chrisb.9083

4 күн бұрын

I don't even do the raid and this week and last I started solo doing the first chest in deep stone. Got a red border commemoration both times. Worth doing if want the guns without raising. Just sparrow thru it in a few minutes for secret chest and bam

@x-notbad-x

4 күн бұрын

​@@chrisb.9083 don't you need to have done the raid for weapons to drop from the chests ?

@davidj8869

3 күн бұрын

​@@x-notbad-xyes...you are right...in These chests are only Things drop which are all ready in your loot pool

@anxivty

Күн бұрын

Have commemoration (not crafted) thought hammerhead would get me off of it, didn’t expect to like this lmg more

I got a reco / bait and switch drop and I really enjoy this machine gun

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Nice! Yeah, it puts in work.

@camerong8406

4 күн бұрын

Same here. It slaps

I crafted two of these. One with Hatchling & Dragonfly, for the unique combo and add clear silliness. One with Reconstruction & Bait and Switch for Tormentors - I particularly like pairing it with something I'm already swapping, so Witherhoard or the new stasis GL, and I like extended mag on that one because Reconstruction makes the reload irrelevant; I have Tac Mag on the other one.

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Oh yeah hatchling + Dragonfly sounds fun. Imagine if we could of got hatchling + recon I would of made that my top pick for add clearing. B&S is def the best if you are rotating through your loadout a ton.

@MGShadow1989

4 күн бұрын

@@AceInTheSpade - I was doing the breach activity and the final boss was the tormentor; I cackled like an absolute madman at how quickly the LMG with B&S shredded it. Almost felt like cheating. I don't know how well Hatchling & Dragonfly performs in the likes of a higher Nightfall or whatever, but it's a nice synergy with both wanting precision kills, then Dragonfly triggers the multi kill portion of Hatchling.

@Edgetarian15

4 күн бұрын

@MGShadow1989 you can shred that guys health bar with a blue sidearm though

@MGShadow1989

4 күн бұрын

@@Edgetarian15 - and? it's still amusing seeing how effective LMGs are against them.

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

@Edgetarian15 I mean, if we're real loadouts, don't really matter in anything below a day 1 raid, grand master NF, or solo flawless dungeon run. Destiny is all about min maxing. You could do without, but for a lot of people, it's min maxing that makes the game fun.

Amazing, wasn't sure if i would craft it but after this 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼💪🏻

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Oh yeah, it's definitely worth it. Glad to help! 😎✌️

I crafted hatchling/dragonfly, its insane with euphony, threadlings everywhere. Pair it with a strand warlock setup and your golden.

@AceInTheSpade

2 күн бұрын

Yeah, a lot of people have been mentioning that roll. I'll definitely have to try it out.

This is perfect ad clear MG. I use this in Zenith encounter in Salvation’s Edge every time. Hatchling helps clearing ads and creating tangle which I combine with Collective Action.

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Nice. Yeah, I use it in the exact same encounter lol.

amazing video as always!!!!

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

@@Flixcer1404 Thanks! 🙏😎

nice vid, definitely going to go craft this

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Thanks. Yeah, it's definitely worth it.

On your point about demo on this weapon, I’d say it’s even better on a prismatic warlock with how often you have your grenade up to reload

@AceInTheSpade

3 күн бұрын

Oh yeah, Demo is great on prismatic.

I love this thing it hits hard with recon target lock

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Indeed.

Recon with bait and switch on my 1st crafted roll - I think I’ll craft a more fun ad clear roll soon after watching this video. Hatching and dragonfly with extended mag

@AceInTheSpade

3 күн бұрын

Nice! Hatchling + Demo definitely sounds like some fun Tom foolery.

I crafted 2, one for pvp being hatchling and dragonfly to maybe get a collat and another with hatchling and bait and switch for pve to do both crowd control and dps

@AceInTheSpade

3 күн бұрын

Nice! Sounds like some fun rolls.

Went with Reconstruction and Desperate Measures. Bait and Switch seems the most popular, but I'm not trying to be cycling through my weapons so often when doing general ad clear. More focused on abilities

@AceInTheSpade

3 күн бұрын

100% with you on this. People underestimate how easy it is to proc and keep desperate measures x2 and x3 up consistently.

@chunkyrabbit1032

Күн бұрын

​@@AceInTheSpadedesperate measures x3 also has the same dmg buff as bait and switch

I love reconstruction on this. I run it with the call and strand ammo finders

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Same here.

I built mine with reco and frenzy, is it worth swapping the frenzy perk with something else? I mainly use this thing for majors

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Yeah, target lock or desperate measures of you are doing a lot of ability spam.

@carsondurrant5674

4 күн бұрын

@@AceInTheSpade thanks, I think I’ll try desperate measures. That should work well with prismatic warlock

Until we get some exotic strand heavies, we need good strand gear. Definitely recon for me, probably with dragonfly which I love on my old commemoration. Let's see what the recommendation is for the right column...

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Agreed.

@urgedloki897

4 күн бұрын

Marcato - 45 with enhanced Demo + Onslaught.. Thank me Later

This gun saved my marriage

@AceInTheSpade

Күн бұрын

I wouldn't doubt it.

My only problem with this weapon is the very obstructive scope

@AceInTheSpade

3 күн бұрын

True. It is pretty large.

if you’re using reconstruction, what’s the benefit of appended mag over extended?

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Extended mag only gives you 4 extra bullets over appended, but nerfs your reload. Which already feels extremely slow to begin with.

@DerpsterIV

4 күн бұрын

Why would you care about reload when you will never reload it anyway, 4 bullets without recon = 8 extra in a fully reconstructed mag​@@AceInTheSpade

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

@@DerpsterIV That's a fair assessment.

@RubedoURTV666

4 күн бұрын

I'm not sure if this applies to this gun, but I've hit an ammo cap on several machine guns using extended+backup mag. I'd give an example, but not online. I'd double check that extended+backup doesn't hit the gun's cap. If it does, appended is probably the better option (if it doesn't, then obviously it's up to you). That's all :).

Enhanced Hatchling and Dragonfly 👌

@AceInTheSpade

3 күн бұрын

Sounds fun. 👍

Banger

What weapon mod?

@AceInTheSpade

18 сағат бұрын

I just use backup mag for even more bullets.

Strategist craft is glued to my GM invis hunter I carry people with.

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Oh man, that does sound pog.

@chewhakka7611

4 күн бұрын

Bro said pog unironically​@@AceInTheSpade

@jonahbrown5669

Күн бұрын

​@@chewhakka7611 bro said bro unironically

Quality content, drop a comment for engagements, you got this!

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Thanks. I appreciate it! ❤️✌️😎

Man, Frenzy is literally NEVER worth it lol. 15% damage buff and it takes SO MUCH time to activate.

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

I think it's good on primary weapons and typically is active all the time for me inside, actually, encounters. But on this weapon, it's very meh.

@CrunchBar-qe5fw

4 күн бұрын

@@AceInTheSpade Eh, if the gun has One for All and someone insists that Frenzy is the better pick, I'm not going to listen lol. Precision Instrument too.

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

@CrunchBar-qe5fw I do think there are instances where frenzy is better because it does max out reload speed, which if you are using a low mag weapon, feels miles better. But typically, OFA is goated.

@degaetano510

4 күн бұрын

Frenzy activates while stowed as long as your in combat

@CrunchBar-qe5fw

3 күн бұрын

@@degaetano510 And? It's not double primary era, I'm not going to be using something else and then switch to a Frenzy procced primary. Every other damage perk in the game, including kill-required ones, has quicker activation criteria than Frenzy does.

This weapon is the new king of LMG's, rivalling Retrofit Escapade in DPS

Damn I hate that pale heart weapons design is 'half/half'. Ruins colour, I dont mind the faces on the side but this stupid two tone main colour is zzzz

@AceInTheSpade

Күн бұрын

Lol. I feel ya.

You say "with that said" way too much

@AceInTheSpade

2 күн бұрын

Lol. Sorry a bad habit.

This is not an upgrade to Hammerhead nor Commemoration. The lack of Killing Tally already puts in disadvantage since it has to rely on BnS for the same damage profile or Frenzy for half of that Meanwhile Hammerhead provides Killing Tally and Rampage, making the ammo economy of the weapon much better, and Commemoration provides an easy way to reload. Yeah there is the RPM of the weapon, but if RPM matters people would still be using Retrofit, when majority moved away the moment the bug was fixed. Nah this weapon is very niche and ends up being the players choice if they really need when they have Hammerhead and Commemoration on their vaults. I would argue that the closest LMG to those two monsters is Song of Ir Yut for melee builds since Recon + Sword Logic is a really good way to clear rooms and nuke priority targets.

@AceInTheSpade

4 күн бұрын

Hard disagree. The higher RPM already puts its base DMG above commemoration and hammerhead. Perks like desperate measures can be procced even while the weapon is stowed and keeping up x2 and x3 is extremely easy to do, especially on prismatic. Killing tally requires weapon kills, and the moment you switch weapons, you lose the buff. Desperate Measures doesn't lose that buff when stowing or switching. Also, I'd argue DM better fits the sandbox playstyle as we're constantly switching between abilities and weapon kills and constantly rotating through our loadouts. That's just my personal take. I'm not saying Killing tally is bad. But for my builds and playstyle, I like Desperate Measures better because I'm constantly getting x2 and x3 all the time. Commemoration is definitely better if you are running void builds, though. The song of Ir Yut is great for melee builds because of the origin trait.

@WrathNebula321

4 күн бұрын

I've been using a Hammerhead with Rampage + Desperate Measures and it outperforms Killing Tally in my opinion, especially when I run it with Void Warlock, where Pro Memoria can also get Target Lock if you don't like Bait and Switch, which is a really good option outside of Killing Tally.

@Ace-ob9yk

3 күн бұрын

@@AceInTheSpade So I used D2Foundry and I did found interesting data: Commemoration with Killing Tally IS outperformed by Pro Memoria with Frenzy by a small margin: 25000 DPS vs 26000 DPS, so yeah it is an upgrade here. But that falls apart against Hammerhead since the roll with Rampage + Killing Tally completely outperforms any machine gun with astounding 33000 DPS vs 29000 from Pro Memoria with max Desperate Measures. And against all odds it’s not hard to get Hammerhead rolling with these two perks, same as it’s not hard to get it rolling with Desperate Measures. If you already have Commemoration, there isn’t much reason to upgrade to Pro Memoria unless you are a grenade build that can take advantage of Desperate Measures. If you still need a LMG Pro Memoria can be your option and you will not miss Commemoration. If you can deal with reload (hi Hunters) Hammerhead is the best option.

@Ace-ob9yk

3 күн бұрын

@@WrathNebula321 my issue with DM is that if you are running a build that depends on the healing made DM is a waste of a perk to use. You still can activate with melee but here is already a burden where I can even forget the perk exist with Killing Tally. Less maintenance

@AceInTheSpade

3 күн бұрын

@Ace-ob9yk That's a super hyper specific example. Most builds can still benefit from DM greatly imo. As for double damage perks on LMGs I'm just not a fan personally. Once you have used one with something like Envious or Reconstruction it makes it really hard to have to go back to a smaller magazine and more reloading. Especially with the abysmal 4-5 seconding reloads, which is annoying in the heat if battle when you need the ammo pronto or you might die.

Very silly weapon

@AceInTheSpade

3 күн бұрын

It is indeed silly fun.