After rethinking it, Rod and Artemis should be switched! Rod = A tier Artemis = B tier The reason for their original placement is Rod CANNOT grab anything that pops off by itself which is complete trash compared to other normal summons. Artemis recycles Rod and DM players still refuse to play her LMAO so perhaps i was a bit biased here for the sake of promoting artemis. ANYWAYS ENJOY

@Usersfg711

Жыл бұрын

If all of these cards can be added by rod or soul servant. This ranking could be a little different

0:17 Amulet Dragon 0:54 Predaplant Verte Anaconda 1:18 Relinquished Anima 1:48 Apprentice Illusion Magician 2:16 Artemis, the Magistus Moon Maiden 2:36 Black Illusion 3:22 Bond Between Teacher and Student 3:25 Dark Burning Magic/Dark Magic Attack/Dark Burning Attack 5:10 The Bystial Lubellion/Bystial Engine 5:35 Chaos Form 5:48 Chicken Game 6:04 Upstart Goblin 7:24 Soul Servant 8:27 Chronicle Magician 9:01 Chronicle Sorceress 9:54 Dark Magical Circle (giggity) 11:31 Eternal Soul 11:51 Magicians' Combination 13:23 Dark Magical Curtain 13:32 Magicians' Souls 13:58 Dark Paladin 15:11 Dark Eradicator Warlock 16:00 Magic Formula 16:25 Link Spider 16:54 Dark Flare Knight 17:08 Mirage Knight 17:38 Dark Renewal 18:38 Destined Rivals 19:47 Dharc the Dark Charmer, Gloomy 20:10 Selene, Queen of the Master Magicians/Accesscode Talker 21:26 Magical Dimension/Dimension Conjuerer 22:19 Magician's Rod (giggity) 23:00 Illusion Magic 23:57 Diviner of the Herald/Beatrice, Lady of the Eternal 24:12 Illusion of Chaos 25:12 Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon 25:24 Dark Magician/Dark Magician Girl/Mahad/Mana 26:04 Dark Magician Girl The Dragon Knight 26:24 Dark Magician The Dragon Knight 27:09 The Eye of Timaeus 28:16 Timaeus the United Dragon 29:04 Dark Magician of Chaos 29:24 Dedication Through Light and Darkness 29:44 Chaos Scepter Blast 30:10 Magician of Black Chaos 30:20 Magician of Chaos 30:33 Magician of Black Chaos MAX 31:07 Dark Magic Expanded 31:22 Ebon Illusion Magician 31:37 Ebon High Magician 32:05 Dark Cavalry 32:45 Dark Magician the Knight of Dragon Magic 34:48 Master of Chaos 35:34 Secrets of Dark Magic 36:17 Red-Eyes Fusion 36:57 Dark Magic Inheritance 39:03 Keeper of Dragon Magic 40:48 Thousand Knives 41:04 Spellbook of Knowledge/Spellbook Engine 42:05 Magicalized Fusion 43:34 Magician of Dark Illusion 43:54 Magician Navigation 45:09 Magikuriboh 46:09 Magi Magi Magician Gal 47:55 Tenyi Spirit - Vishuda 49:20 Norito the Moral Leader 50:47 Red-Eyes Black Meteor Dragon 51:27 Red-Eyes Insight 51:38 Piercing the Darkness 52:19 Dark Magic Veil 52:40 Magician's Robe 52:46 Sage's Stone 53:07 Dark Sage 53:16 Sorcerer of Dark Magic 54:11 Magician's Salvation 55:30 Nadir Servant 56:19 Knight's Title/Dark Magician Knight 56:46 The Dark Magicians 58:17 Skilled Dark Magician 58:29 Quintet Magician 59:22 The True Name/Archfiend's Oath 1:00:43 Secret Village of the Spellcasters 1:01:20 Strength in Unity 1:02:03 Dark Magic Twin Burst 1:02:38 Wonder Wand

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

THIS IS AMAZING THANK YOU

Dark Spellian support when?

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

NEW YEAR NEW SPELLIAN

Maybe you can do a tier list of engines that work well with dm, spellbook, branded, numeron etc

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

Branded/Bystial by far.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 YEAH BUT NO ONE WANTS YOUR BUILD LMAO

Konami loves the nostalgia bait that DM support brings but they always drop the ball when it comes to card design. Eternal Soul vs True Light, REF being a better DM fusion than Secrets, we play a ritual monster with literally no intention of ever ritual summoning him, lack of a DM link summon, our field spell is hot garbage compared to other decks, and we play more bricks than pretty much every other deck. Soul servant would be up in S if the palladium monsters weren’t awful. Is it too much to ask for a DM retrain to identify as DM and not be terrible?

@karistanstrihart

Жыл бұрын

DMDK is pretty good, the issue is that it doesn't stop the opponent from playing while being a bit hard to summon.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Soul Servant is hella close to S! I love it It do be a joke tho we need more good supp

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

REF is not better than Secrets by any means.

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 You are delusional. It fuses from the deck and is a 1 card Dragoon. It dumps materials for Magicalize Fusion, but it requires no set-up. That's like saying Dragoon isn't the best DM fusion monster.

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

@Zack I agree that DM needs more support, but the issues aren't exactly what you listed. True Light vs Eternal Soul has no relevance to why DM functions or fails to function. If True Light was simply a worse version of Eternal Soul by every metric, DM would still lose to every other deck. Similarly, REF is technically better than Secrets, but if REF was simply worse, DM would still fail trying to summon Dragoon off of the lv 8 Timaeus. Likewise, if we actually were forced to Ritual Summon that monster, DM would still fail. Yes, DM and BEWD have more bricks than other decks, but that's not really the main issue, (Illusion of Chaos kinda fixes drawing them as bricks). The real issue is these bricks do essentially nothing in most cases even optimally when not even hard drawn, and there is no way to get the pieces into play, so you are better off using only 2 DM than 3 DM+DMG+Palladiums or the God Cards.

Even in the context of 2016 DM I never understood Ebon High Magician. It was a card that you would only ever want to make turn 1 going first. But it belongs to a deck that cannot make it turn 1 without some silly 5 card combo that leaves you with no backrow to actually use with it. So DM really couldn't make this until like turn 3, but by turn 3 you've already committed your backrow to the field so what even is the point? If you could make this you could make Big-Eye, Dracossack, Ebon Illusion, or Red-Eyes Flare Metal. The only thing I could think of is that his "if this card leaves the field" effect that destroys doesn't target which was kind of a problem for DM back in the day, but a lot of cards that can't be targeted also can't be destroyed or float if you destroy them so even that really doesn't seem like it would actually matter. People used to insist that it was a staple back in 2016 and my response was always "when are you ever going to make this?" And no one ever had an answer.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

ebon high is SO WEIRD!? YES EXACTLY. THANK YOU. I'm so glad you were questioning DM players even back then, because as you said, they just claim its a "staple" because its a spellcaster rank 7 LMAO Absolutely wild mindset, but thank you for seeing eye to eye on Ebon High, the absolute waste of space and text.

Make a part 2 for cards that couldn't be included and for cards that are side engines. Ex are branded fusion, bystial, incantations etc. Love the vid.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Could make another soon! Bystial was in this one tho!

Great video but I'd argue piercing is extra coverage for dragoon. Any fusion using the vanilla DM gains the attack in a battle.

Cool vid! its cool you put alot of engines and tech cards in but you missed some to like Branded, Fusion Deploment,skystriker pack etc. i think they need a separated tier vid but that just me.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Branded Fusion was meant to be in but I missed it and sadly thats a phat L. It should be A tier because its hella good. Deployment is D Striker package with Anaconda is A-B Without Anaconda its probs C-D

The DM deck was my most recent deck(when Circle just came out) so hearing Old school DM when old school to me is playing with Hammer Shot, Slate Warrior and Sakuretsu Armor is definitely funny

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

I mean i played from the start

@aiolosdaftsis

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM Great times

Master duel was my first experience with yugioh. I'll never get to experience red eyes dark dragoon because Konami are cowards and dont want to ban Verte. Can't even twist their nipples enough to get illusion of chaos because of full power spyral. Truly the path of the dark magician is lonely.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Master Duel Dark Magician is a dark path! I've made videos on the cards we are missing and such. It's actually so dumb

Woot woot let’s gooo! Gotta love to see it!

@popwinner-vj1od

Жыл бұрын

Facts

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

ye boiiiiiii lets goooo

Love it!! Could you make an DM Branded deck list? Would absolutely love it.

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

I already made one on my channel

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Hey there, I got heaps of Branded Lists on the channel! Some of mine and some of other players who have done well so check em out :) (not jobes)

Great video mate

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed! If you love DM content, please stick around!

Loved the video! Even if they didn't make the cut, can I ask how would you rank these cards as honorary DM support? Imduk, Fusion Deployment, Chaos Angel, Successor Soul

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Imduk and Link spider serve the same kinda job but hes kinda better than link spider imo coz dragon! Fusion deploy would be like D tier probs Chaos angle B tier Successor soul probs D

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

I thought Successor Soul let you tribute your opponent's monster and send it to the GY! To be honest, it really should have done just that. Easy A or B card, considering it'd still be worse than most generic removal cards like Ultimate Slayer or Lightning Storm. There would still be many things holding it back. The fact that it isn't searchable, it limits attacks, is reliant on the opponent having a monster (dead going 1st), and only gives you a vanilla it really should do more since vanillas by themselves are just a few extra points of damage and a non-resistant body. It's too bad most effects affect vanillas, with the common exceptions being Widow Anchor and Fiendish Chain. It could be like a DM/BEWD themed Kaiju card that is faster and the Kaiju goes to your side instead. Seems fair. As is the card is hot trash though. Damn.

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

The issue with Fusion Deployment is there's currently no good reason to just turbo out DM or DMG from the deck, especially since Souls already does that but better (includes other spellcasters like Palladiums, can turn into a Rank 1, can mulligan 2 draws, searchable, player don't get restricted into Fusions only, Allure target, etc). Even if you drew both Souls and Deployment, there's no good DM cards to immediately benefit from them other than the non-searchable Timaeus card but you only need 1, not both, and Souls is incredibly easy to search already thanks to up to 3x Illusion of Chaos and 3x Preparation of Rites. I don't count Servant drawing 2 because it's replacing itself at the cost of being a brick.

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

Chaos Angel is level 10, I guess it is like turning a Rod + DM into a slow DM + Circle play, but every other deck can probably bring it out easier using Bystials, etc. Still a great option for DM though.

I'm very confused on why Chicken Game is here because it's banned and has been for a long time

@AverageJohan

Жыл бұрын

Because it's not banned in Master Duel, so it's a better upstart there

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Master Duel/OCG Dark Magician

I just thought of an interesting interaction with the new fusion "dark magician the magical knight of dragons" and the new traps "fusion duplicatuon" and "trap trek". Attack with magical knight, activate trap trek, popping magical knight for cost setting "fusion duplication", activate fusion duplication, banishing red-eyes fusion(or potentially a new dm fusion spell). summon a double pop dragoon in battle phase, and also have gaia and dm on the field. Alot of set up for no too much value. You could also xyz afterwards if you fail to lethal or do it all in main phase 2. Hopefully if we get a dm fusion card, it will have fusion in the name, so we can have fun with it.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

U can just pop the knight in much easier ways that arent related to trap cards! then u get big wins in the battle phase

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

What is Trap Trek? Do you mean Trap Trick? The "cost" is banishing a Trap of the same name of your deck, not destroying your own monster (Magical Knight of Dragons) nor trap (Eternal Soul). If you used REF already, you can simply use another REF next turn instead of using the brickier Fusion Duplication, since both would require you to have another Red-Eyes in the deck anyways. The upside to Duplication is you can bring out a 2nd Dragoon on their turn, but the downside is the card is useless unless you already have a REF in the GY, and Dragoon requires a discard per negate, so most likely you won't have that 2nd card. Dragoon's best effect is the double pop and hyper burn effect, so bringing out a Dragoon on your turn with REF or Magicalize Fusion is better. And also, the double pop effect of Dragoon is only during the main phase because it is an ignition effect, not during the BP. Gaia and DM are level 7, but Rank 7's aren't exactly that impressive atm even assuming you found a way to fuse an opponent's lv 7 Warrior/Dragon with your DM under Super Poly, then another way to pop the Magical Dragon Knight just to get 2 level 7's. Dragoon does enough damage on its own and the Magical Knight would usually do about half or a third (ATK of monster + pierce vs Dragoons 2x ATK of monster plus an additional attack), and caps at 2900 compared to 3k-4k usual stats of Dragoon.

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

I think Fusion Duplication is an interesting side Tech against decks that use Super Poly, since you can copy their Super Poly and use it without cost by fusing a DM with a Dragon they control to make a Dragoon. It works with your own Fusion Spells but might be too inconsistent unless the opponent also has Super Poly.

@iigeminiii3754

Жыл бұрын

@@Goblin_Hands trap trek is a new trap card that acts similar to trap trick but you destroy a monster on your field for cost

@iigeminiii3754

Жыл бұрын

@@Goblin_Hands also you can send red eyes fusion for magicians souls then duplication for ref when your opponent puts monsters on board.

I love chaos max, its a shame its so difficult to summon, maybe with the new link 2 dyna mond we can do some jank stuff in a ritual build

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

funny you should mention it! my next video showcases Dodo and friends which is a DM player who found a neat combo to summon Black Chaos Max

i loved this ❤️❤️ most of these cards I don't think there bad because of their effects it just the fact that they are old you know you could summon up to 2 monsters and set 1 or 2 and pass but right now it's just a new different way to play the game and it looks like Konami doesn't want dm to be an arc type that can be playable in 2023 come on Konami we just need a new good 2 cards to play the game we need a new searcher (link) and a fusion card that's all we need 😭😭

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

I mean even back then they were bad. Duel links is where navi and circle were OP we defs need new cards

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

Konami doesnt want DM to be meta.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 explain dragoon xox

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM Dragoon isn't meta

Loza! Fellow yugituber Dodo & Friends made DM Chaos Max viable in a really interesting way. His vid was posted a few days ago. Would love a review.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

ye it's uploaded and coming out soon 😎

cries in ocg supremacy

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

No goon must be rough lol

@pawjabes2847

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM i don't even bother with ocg dm :D

Dm has so much potential but it's like Konami just gives it 1 good support and the rest just bad, like the decks already doesn't have cards holding it back, heck alot of them would be great if they had retrains of them, good ones at that.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

I agree bro thats why my custom card competition has cracked fan cards that we kinda need!

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

DM already has good support. Stop complaining.

@franciscolozada1059

Жыл бұрын

@jobejacobs62 the support it's decent at best, if you think that's good your tripping, heck even blues seem to have it much better despite both being an og

@gekkouga-sl7lb

Жыл бұрын

@@franciscolozada1059 Jobes a mega weeb. Thinks Dragoons bad & pure DM can best the meta. Ignore. Argues with everyone in the comments like he’s the king of games lol. Mans got 2 subscribers and some mish mash deck profiles. King of weebs we bow before you

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

@@gekkouga-sl7lb Then why didnt you Dragoon players win a WCS yet?

If Piercing the darkness and Eye of Timaeus were searchable, what tier would they be?

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

maybe B?

Dark Eradicator with toon table of contents(x3) and the Spellbook engine could do some serious damage.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

ye for a meme would be fun

What is hate about some of these votes, is that they're not high because they have the potential but they aren't able to express it due to the lack of good other cards. Imagine if we get the stupidest card that almost all archetypes have: a Normal Spell that can search any DM monster. Rod joins A tier since it's now able to access any DM card, Circle gains a very valid target - possibly making it into B tier - that can finally start something with Soul Servant. We have so many mechanics that are used in our archetype that do not do anything when we want them to. The Palladiums, Magician of Chaos and some of our Fusions benefit from being destroyed, and usually the opponent will just banish or Kaiju them. The only archetype ways we have to manually trigger their destruction is to properly summon them and then... destroy them with the hard to summon Magician of Chaos or Dark Magician Girl the Dragon Knight. No comment. We discard or send to the GY as cost for some of our fusions, Souls, Apprentice, or goddamn Robe, but our cards that have an actual effect on the GY are a joke or require too many steps to be useful.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

I agree! We are SO CLOSE to greatness! Including multiple of our cards becoming BUSTED if only Konami would give us support that directly helps with competitive concepts such as rushing out a DM fusion/ritual or something similar. Hopefully we get a Link monster that acts as a Palladium for extra draws but thats just me coping.

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM not ever happening.

I can’t get behind rod being in B tier but moon maiden being in A tier? Rod is for sure S tier. It is one of the best searchers in yugioh in terms of what it can search and it’s recursion. I mean it’s a little rough right now with bystials but rod is at minimum high A tier.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Yeah look, maybe I've being too critical on Rod, but the fact everything it searches still requires other cards to be useful is a HUGE joke. Compare Rod to Aleistar or Mo-Ye and it makes sense imo Though in DM Rod is clearly the optimal normal summon tho others can be cute. Maybe it is worthy of A tier. Not S at all. S is reserved for cards that enable crazy shit. Rod is not close to REF, nor anaconda or goon by a while.

@Kyle2551

Жыл бұрын

The potential for Rod to be S tier is certainly there. If Konami actually gave us some strong spells/traps to search out that weren't slow and cumbersome, or weren't terribly outdated, then Rod would probably be the best card in the deck. It's targets to search are all just massively underpowered. A great example of a real searcher in modern Yugioh is Aluber the Jester of Despia. This guy searches all kinds of cards that just make the deck go off, or defensive cards that give you extra protection. There isn't a single card Rod can search that makes the deck pop without needing another 1 or 2 very specific cards. Its best use is probably searching Soul Servant to lead into the Dragoon play, but even still you need Magicians Souls in hand already to do that.

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM Imagine comparing DM cards to meta tier cards. Such a joke. Honestly Rod is the best card in the deck. Learn the value of SoDM.

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

@@Kyle2551 DM wont ever be meta tier, because thats not the intended goal. So stop comparing it to meta tier cards.

@Kyle2551

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 lmao do you even keep up with the meta yourself? Despia fell outta favor months ago. It's strong, but hasn't been "meta" for quite some time. I used Aluber as a comparison for Rod to demonstrate how Rod COULD be great. Get a life you troll.

Boy oh boy I was waiting for this one. Actually sad how much support we get and like 80% is just so bad/anime. Combination & Magikuriboh are two big recent misfire's IMO. Why isn't MagiKuriboh as spellcaster?! You nailed it with combi, we deserve ONE negate (outside Goon). it was slow and bad when it released 3 years ago and hasn't gotten any better. The deck has enough 'anime' esque cards at this point. Can they not just do one wave where the support is really solid (like Illusion of Chaos level for each card)

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Ye a lot of it is just whack shit like Eye or Piercing LMAO Some dude in the comments said something about combination being good LMAO dm players be wildin again I agree, lots of anime supp which makes sense, but now time for the good cards

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

Combination isn't a misfire, you can negate twice per turn if TWO of them are on the field. MagiKURIBOH is the theme of the anime card, Kuriboh who is an FIEND monster. Thats like asking why Timaeus is a LIGHT and Dragon monster. "Illusion of Chaos level"? You got a bunch of playable DM support, your mind is on Dragoon. Pick one, can't be both.

@AverageJohan

Жыл бұрын

@jobejacobs62 Linkuriboh = cyberse Junkuriboh = machine Winged Kuriboh = fairy Just cause the original is a fiend, doesn't mean that the one supporting a spellcaster theme couldn't be a spellcaster itself.

@gekkouga-sl7lb

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 Why would you ever play two? That’s just bricky. You’re entitled to your opinion but its wrong lmao. Theme of the anime card? It never featured in the anime. It’d be far better synergy for the deck if it was a spellcaster. Timaeus is a poor comparison. Dragoon is the only saving grace for this deck & archetype. You know it & I know it. Have fun setting two combi’s & passing

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

@@gekkouga-sl7lb 2 Combinations would be a doable thing if there was a card like Hysteric Sign that searched/set 3 DMG cards with different names (Bond, Combination, and Salvation), but even then you'd need a way to get DM on the field so Bond can become live so Combination and Salvation can become live. However, doable is not the same thing as optimal. Even a card that searches 3 cards wouldn't rectify the fact that Combination only negates Monster effects, is a super slow Trap, and can be interrupted and/or extremely situational (you need DMG on field and DM in GY or vice versa, not DM and DMG on field/GY/hand/etc which is contradictory to Salvation and Bond unless you also have a 2nd DM in GY somehow) In most cases, resolving 2 Combinations is probably a win-more strategy. Usually you only need like 2-3 monster negates or interruptions rather than like 10. Spell and Trap negates however...that's different because players aren't limited to 1 spell a turn compared to 1 normal summon a turn.

If you were forced to run mahad or mana which would you choose and why? Thanks

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Mana is awesome for resummoning herself if your rod or souls get targeted by imperm or veiler

Where would you rank branded fusion ?

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

O shit did I miss it? Around A!

It's just me? Or Dark magician players try really really hard to believe Chronicle magician is a good card? It's one of the worst cards of the archetype.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

It's pretty stock standard of a DM card, it requires other cards to function. Otherwise its just another dead card in hand.

Random question, is Navi potentially playable this format due to DM being better in the hand?? I'm wondering if there's some weird way to build the deck maxing out on Navi and cards like Secrets of Dark Magic, and Apprentice Illusion to get DM in hand and go off on the opponents turn. Alternatively, you could bring out some form of floodgate or interruption in the form of Gravekeepers Shaman, Kycoo the Ghost Destroyer, or Delg the Dark Monarch (Night End sorcerer if you dont want them to mill 2). Maybe something like Magical Broker to act as a wall, and a Draw 1 with circle on the field. Crazier still, could run this with a Spellbook engine and something like Reaper of Prophecy to gain more advantage. Its probably bad, but I figured if anyone could find a way to make it work it'd be you! P.s. Bonus points if you summon the Exodia head with it

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

TBH there is an argument to be made this format for a return to Apprentice and Navi gameplay! Kycoo this format would be decent but this relies on us going 1st. Navi in GY is actually INSANELY good but it has to be post the turn its sent and DM needs to be chillen on the field.

@matmontani

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM With regards to going first, maybe this is side deck tech? Can have floodgates and the navi core in the side ready to go when you know the matchup and that youre going first. Maybe side out 3x REF + bricks for 3x navi + specific floodgates/tech cards. Still the argument to be made that REF is better, but I like the options available. Take a look at the list of 7 or lower dark spellcasters. Theres actually some pretty good tech. Rod + Illusion magic/apprentice gives you Navi live and recurring rod for next turn. There are a lot of ways you can go with the Navi summon depending on the rest of your hand. With DM being a deck that relies so heavily on having different pieces, I think the flexibility of navi might be good. Can cut out the DMG brick, might even run 3 DM and triple circle + other draw cards. Spellbook of knowledge, allure as youre running more dark targets for Navi. Ways to get through the deck to have navi live with other “their turn” interruptions. Secrets of dark magic, Circle banish, maybe even things like piercing the darkness. Playable at 1 with all the draw power maybe. The more I type the more I want to try it. Navi dot deck

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

@@matmontani mayhapz we shall experiment! 🤔🧐

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

@@matmontani It's not as bad since Illusion of Chaos can shuffle the brick like Kycoo back into the deck. You are going to need IoC/Prep/Rod + DM/Illusion Magic/Apprentice/Navigation, since Rod will search the 3rd card, which sounds pretty consistent if you think DM + S/T Negate + Kycoo would do more damage than other DM plays. It can be tried by simply main decking 1 Kycoo and 1 Navigation.

Nice tier list, but I'd put Magikuriboh between Dragoon and Anaconda

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

You would Nicola! 😎

@karistanstrihart

Жыл бұрын

Magikuriboh was this close to being playable in some DM builds... If it had a way to SS itself for free, it could be used as an extender for Link plays, for Anima or stuff like Lyrilusc->Downerd->Zeus. Both of its effect cannot be used turn 1 because they require the opponent's action, so you can't even try to trigger them manually with stuff like, idk, Where Arf Thou.

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

@@karistanstrihart no. This is a THEME. Learn how to read themes.

@karistanstrihart

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 I know it's a theme, it's just a shame that it can't be really used in this meta.

Rod is S tier man!!! If you have Messi play with a bunch of duds you wouldn't say Messi is bad rigbt?

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Nah bro, REF is S. Rod cant even search a card close to REFs level.

@fotiosvakakis1723

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM the thing is, what does souls do in the deck? It j summons DM and the draw effect rarely comes up How can souls be a higher tier than a card that can search any spell trap in the deck?

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

@@fotiosvakakis1723 If i open 2 souls I can make a link 2 play, if i open 2 rod what am i doinggggg

@fotiosvakakis1723

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM ig what im teynna say is that rod does a good job as a searcher; is it fair to discredit the playmaker for the striker not being able to finish?

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

@@fotiosvakakis1723 hmmm perhaps. Rod probs deserves A at least

Every time I hear someone saying anything good about Magi Magi Magician Girl I just cringe if I have 2 lvl 6 Spellcaster I summon Norito then I have a Spell/Trap negation that card is 10x better and doesnt even see play because our Deck is shit at summoning 2 lvl 6 "Spellcaster"!!! and even if you say Narito is more of a going first card and you want that monster steal effect we have Big Eye for that and there are 2 other rank 6 monster the Jinzo one and Vampire Sheridan and they can both be made by normal summoning Diviner they are both a 1 card combo and dont need to banish a card from hand for their effect so do people really want to argue for the effect to summon a monster from the opponent GY for the cost of banishing a card from the own hand to be that good that they would play Magi Magi Magician Girl? And even if there is another Rank 6 Wollow, Founder of the Drudge Dragon that card is also a 1 card combo of Diviner can summon from the enemy GY as a quick effeckt and is a very good anti Tearlament card adn even saw play in some decks. Magi Magi is just really bad and completly power crept I listed 4 better Rank 6 monster and 3 of them have a effect like Magi Magi on them and are summonable of 1 card instead of 3 I don't know why I it triggers me so much that I write such a long comment about it but it just does.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Large agree! Most magi magi enjoyers just like her coz shes dmg lmao they be simpin

@blueqion9488

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM True xD

why are you not doing MD contact ? we REALLY need you there

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Lol what? I do

@mhmadalasady8646

Жыл бұрын

really ! haha sorry man i will look for them

What are the ratios for the bystaial engine?

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

1 of each of em is good but Magna is the best one so normally 3 of him

can I have the spelling of the cards it's hard for me to search. Sorry I'm new to yu gi oh 😅

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

uhhh which ones? haha its hard to know when i have over 100 here!

@lyndonn9374

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM ow the one in 5:10 in the vid hahaha

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

@@lyndonn9374 bystials! look up them cracked cards 😎

@lyndonn9374

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM thank you I love your content keep them coming 🪄

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

@@lyndonn9374 thank yo so much! I will keep uploading 😁

What i think about eternal souls is like if you blow up your board I'm like bruh not only should it make dm unaffected but also protect the fusion monster that use dm or just protect dm in grave as well and the player so you don't worry about evenly matched

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

ye it really shouldnt blow up our board no more :(

@popwinner-vj1od

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM facts

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

The point of Eternal Soul is that it can pop TDMs into DM and DMG with a set Burning Magic to setup a field wipe.

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 Most likely the Burning Magic would also be popped at the same time if not earlier though. Bond and Burning Magic are arguably even worse than TDMs and Eternal Soul, so they should have just allowed for monsters that list DMG or DM to be summoned (Palladiums, etc) since the vanillas aren't doing anything without Burning Magic spell card, plus it'd probably be better if the user can trigger it like a quick effect rather than only upon destruction.

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

Obviously, if it was a quick effect, the DM/DMG would still get destroyed, so that's why they'd need the "also, they cannot be destroyed by battle or card effects this turn."

this listing is just getting a turbo dragon

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

dat how DM be

What about Fenrir the Dark Magical Kashtira?

@LOZA-DM

5 ай бұрын

Fenrir is hella busted. Probs A tier (maybe S?)

Me see no duck, where's ma duck Loza? 😡

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Duck LOZA??? :O

@lenvoor1633

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM Imduk 🙃

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

@@lenvoor1633 i said at the link spider bit he is also counted as that slot, i couldnt waste a slot coz i only had like 88 or something lol

Dark Magician + The Eye of Timaeus = Dark Paladin. You don't need Buster Blader if you run The Eye of Timaeus. Only downside to The Eye of Timaeus is that's it's not searchable by Magician's Rod.

We love to see it

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

WE DID IT

Eradicator Warlock is normal spells only

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah true. Another reason for it to be in F tier LMAO

Ok hear me out Loza, I still us DMG and salvation and don't regret it. It's just that having her in the deck makes it a lot easier to link summon on turn two and kill the opponent with access code. Though I only use 1 DM.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

turn 2 kekw 1 dm in bystial ishuzu meta? ur crazy

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

The Dragon Knight is suppose to work like: Combination, Dragon Knight, Circle, Eternal, and DMG so you can trigger Rod, Circle, Salvation, & Combination with an unbreakable board.

@juliandominguez4866

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM hey it works

@juliandominguez4866

Жыл бұрын

Also try using grave keepers engraving

25th anniversary and no good DM support. Maybe for the 30th lol

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

See you in 5 years bro :D

DM Loza in RIP Tier? Invalid list.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

HAHAHA nah that is where I belong 😎

GOAT

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

NOU

It's sad that most of the best cards for DM are not DM cards. 😭

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

ver tru H!

i'm a bit stricter than you if we criticise the dms, so personally i would put all of the DM CARDS specifically, one tier below yours. If you notice carefully, no dm card can play on it's own. even the best ones. Even soul sevant cannot guarantee you will draw this turn, and even illusion of chaos cannot guarantee you will set your combo this turn, a card that costs around 40$ (at least in my country), so just because dm deck is fun favorite, konami is fully exploiting this shit and makes our wallet dry to play beautiful garbages...

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

DM cards are not bad, just players got NO idea on how to use them in creative decks.

@koraptenshi8709

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 they are okay, they just have too dependant effects and need other cards to work. that means that you cannot top deck your way to victory when you have no cards in field and gy, while nowadays lot's of decks can do that and they are not even top tier.

you are missing piercing the darkness, skystriker hornet drones and the branded package. the last one doesnt lose to bystials.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Piercing was in there bro. Its in like D or something Branded is A tier Striker package doesnt matter without Anaconda but it would be like B tier maybe A

Hey Loza 🧙🏽‍♂️ Eye of timaeus deserves being ranked in C 😌 Souls Prep Illusion + eye of timaeus will make dragoon or dragonnight 2 card just like magicalized Cool video buddy 🫶🏻

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

If Eye was searchable it would be bumped up to B or C probs! Yes it is a 2 card Dragoon. But so is Magicalized Fusion and Souls Konami can change my mind by making it searchable HAHA

You negate the feather duster etc. And let it get popped after their board is established. It loops DM. Not the worst dm card especially in master duel

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Its hella bad bro it never does shit Its never even online

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

Combination is so good, you can have two on the field and can negate two effects. Easily the best Trap card in DM decks.

sorry mate but half of your top cards are not even dark magician cards i dont even consider them honorary cards they are part of different archetypes xD honorary cards would be the magician girls Magician's Valkyria Card Ejector Miracle Flipper and many others u skipped :D

@obtusem5015

Жыл бұрын

Try playing dm without them and replace them with your honorary cards and comeback to us to see how well you do

@svetoslavmarinov8038

Жыл бұрын

@@obtusem5015 i do just fine actaly

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

M8 you stole my profilepic and you got the worst take ever! Honorary DM cards are cards that make us pop off so try out REF and quit ya whinging ANd YES DM CARDS SUCK. THATS THE POINT

@merlinfae

Жыл бұрын

bro said miracle flipper💀

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

@@merlinfae love to see one of his lists that "do fine actaly"

I never understood how people said Circle was a Pot of Duality if it misses 99% of the time. Exaggerated or not I feel LOZA's annoyance with this card, Circle is mid. Watching this video in parts my guy.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

I agree, circle is very MID

Man if only secrets of dark magic had the extra effect that " If you fusion summoned a monster from the extra deck using only Dark Magician(s) or cards that list "Dark Magician" or "Dark Magician Girl" in the card text. You can draw one card." lol It might not be much but at least the draw one can help with the -2 that Secrets has and to make dark magic circle a little less bad. Or make like a secrets OTK by Special summoning Mahad with the "draw one card" effect I mentioned earlier during the battle phase. Here is an example, assume you have a way to get DM and DMG on the field, attack with them and then use secrets, chain soul servant and stack mahad, resolve secrets and draw one, reveal Mahad and special summon him and fusion summon The Dark Magicians and swing for game. Although Im not sure Mahad can be summoned during battle phase. Please feel free to correct me if im capping hard! Would a draw one be too good for secrets? I just want Secrets to not so minus and actually have good DM themed OTKs. Can also make the Master Of Chaos OTK potentially a go to play to close out games Using DM and artemis to fuse for example wont trigger the draw one or DM and Bystials/imduk to make Dragoon/DragonKnight wont get the draw one either. Fusing DM and Timaeus though would indeed trigger the draw one for a potential free negate on Dragoon after his summon. Great Video btw LOZA my DM GOAT! 🥰

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Secrets really needs something else hey haha. Hopefully our next fusion spell is a much better secrets or something similar as you have suggested! I think Mahad can be summoned in BP As long as you draw it!

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Mahad can be, but only if Drawing is the last thing to happen because it can miss the timing since it is a "When...you can..." Effect. So if you fuse with Secrets 2.0, if Secrets read Fuse and/then draw, you could trigger Mahad. But if drawing wasn't the last thing to happen, like let's say Servants/Secrets wasn't CL1 but was chained to some other effect, then nope, Mahad wouldn't summon. So if Drawing for Servants or Secrets 2.0 was in response to an opponent's effect, the last thing to happen would be their effect resolving as chain link 1, which is after you already drew a card. So in that case, Mahad would have missed the timing.

@Shinkiro47

Жыл бұрын

@@Goblin_Hands Thanks for clearing it up, I always knew Mahad was clunky 😔

@Goblin_Hands

Жыл бұрын

So, feel free to OTK in the battle phase using Mahad (as long as the Draw effect of Servant isn't in response to anything) but keep in mind drawing a non-Mahad card probably won't be usable in the BP so there probably not as many reasons to surprise the opponent as opposed to drawing Mahad and Rod, etc and making a more optimal play during MP1. You might be able to save yourself against DARK decks defensively though. If you are mid BP and they aren't using an effect, stack Mahad, and then Draw and chain Mahad, and they'd need a DARK with 5k or more to attack, but again, usually you would rather do something else, like stack a Rod or something else for next turn. Sorry, I wish Mahad and Mana had more uses as much as anyone. They should make a card that turbos them out and forces the opponent to trigger their effects (turn an opponent's monster DARK, etc)

@Shinkiro47

Жыл бұрын

@@Goblin_Hands It fine I appreciate how real you are being right now

Dm best deck !!!!!!!!!!

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

FAX

No apollusa? D tier list mate

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

getting to 4 summons in DM is literally impossible 90% of games lol

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM nope

Man, looking at the end of this video hurts. So many cards...SO MANY CARDS...that just aren't good, have been powercrept to shit, or have the potential to be good but we quite literally just can't take advantage of them. Think Dragon Knight, the Rituals, and the fusion summoning cards( Secrets and Timaeus,) are the ones that hurt the most. So much potential, but completely faceplant. Really says something that the only S tier DM card is Dragoon. And that the others just facilitate him the easiest. I know Konami doesn't want to print cracked DM cards, cause they really don't need to. The filthy fucking casuals and collectors will grab them regardless. But holy shit, Konami, next wave of DM cards, give us something great. Doesn't need to be a lot of great cards, just one or two. Preferably a strong fusion or ritual spell. Least that also makes Rod better.

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

Our fusion summoning spells are absolutely abysmal. We really need a focused fusion spell that just WORKS like every other fusion deck has. Same could go for rituals but our fusions are defs better imo (tho chaos max is HUGE on opps turn). Sadly, that is the fate of DM. Be a anime/weeb archtype and profit regardless :(

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

Konami already gave you players great cards, your deck building skills are nil.

@Kyle2551

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 care to elaborate a bit with a list or ratios of cards to play yourself?

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

@@Kyle2551 sure. Depends if we're talking about pure. 2 DM 3 Rod (can search your best cards) 3 Souls 3 Illusion (search your best cards also) 2 DMG 1 Palladium (of your choice) 2 Apprentice 1 Timaeus (since it can be searched) 2 Nav (if your summons get negated) 1 Eternal 2 Circle 1 Piercing (otk for the win/draw) 1 Combination (best negate) 3 Secrets of DM (key card for TDMs) 3 Servant (another key card) 3 Prep 1 Inheritance 1 Magistus Invocation/Magicalized 2 Allure/Pot

@Kyle2551

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 lmao, TWO DMG? There is literally nothing you can't accomplish with one DMG that you need the second one for. And a Paladium monster? Yo, if you're gonna run an entire opening hands worth of bricks, then at least drop one of the DMG's for two different Paladium monsters. Navigation is some ass in modern Yugioh. Simply summoning DM and another Spellcaster is hardly going to stop your opponent. Secrets of Dark Magic is a key card for TDM's? I mean it's true...but that's legit one of the worst fusions on the whole archetype. It's not that high in attack, has no protection, no way to interrupt your opponent by itself, and you have to go neg 2 in card advantage to summon it. Sure, it draws you cards, but only once per turn. Meaning you have to keep this big dumb beater on the field for an additional two turns just to break even. If your opponent cannot remove TDM by that point, they are A. Terrible at Yugioh, B. Playing a really terrible deck, or C. They bricked. TDM is awful, and Secrets is a sorry piss poor excuse for a fusion spell. Combination is our best negate? Man, just wait till you read Dragoon, probably blow your mind. I love how you play one Piercing claiming it's for the draw/otk. It can't be searched dude. How the Hell you gonna be drawing cards or OTKing anyone with a one of unsearchable card?😆

Holly fuck this video is 1 hour long Brother

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

soz lol

G how are you gunna degrad the dark magician without having the magician girls in here

The purpose of magi magi was just to xyz climb to ebon illusion magician. Not defending that its a good card just saying that was its purpose

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

so norito does it better then lol

@XXestedudeXX

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM yup

Whack. This is not all the dark magician cards. And you mentioned a lot that are not even directly related to dark magician-_- relinquished don't count. Preda does not count either .

@LOZA-DM

11 ай бұрын

Crazy that decks can use generic good cards 😱😱😱😱😱💀💀💀💀💀

Wtf

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

ok

@whydnt

Жыл бұрын

Im sorry, i just got jumpscare by verte. Why is he there ??

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

@@whydnt because he is the best link 2 for our deck? lmao

He failed the objective

Lets do a quick run down: S Tier: Dragoon is A at best, Verte is not a DM card, RE Fusion is not a DM card also. A Tier: Illusion is S, Souls is S, Servant is S, the rest are not DM cards. B Tier: Rod is S or A, Eternal is A, Dragon Knight is S or A (by far better than Dragoon), the rest are not DM cards. C Tier: Circle is S or A, Chronicle is D or E, Bond is B, Burning is B, Apprentice is B, DMA is B or C, Ebon Illusion is B, Master of Chaos is S or A (by far greater than Dragoon), the rest are not DM cards. D Tier: Salvation is B, Secrets is A (better than RE Fusion), Timaeus is A, TDMs is S or A, Combination is A or B, MoC is B or C, Knights of Dragon is A, Illusion Magic is B or C, Navigation is S or A, the rest are not DM cards or cards I care to rank. E Tier: Inheritance is C, Magikuriboh is C, Timaeus is A, Piercing is B or C RIP: Even these are wrong.

@robinson789456123

Жыл бұрын

hahahahahhahahaha!!

@LOZA-DM

Жыл бұрын

the amount of copium here is outstanding

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

@@LOZA-DM maybe thats why you lose duels and I don't.

@jobejacobs62

Жыл бұрын

@@robinson789456123 whats so funny?

@robinson789456123

Жыл бұрын

@@jobejacobs62 hahahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahah!!