When Nick says mudguards are over-rated... because he doesn't like working on them... is the time I realize Nick's opinion is over-rated.

@ofwolfanddan

6 ай бұрын

It’s a conversation, not a peer reviewed paper.

@user-cx2bk6pm2f

6 ай бұрын

@@ofwolfanddan We're all dumber for having read your comment.

SKS chromoplastic guards on frames with mounts are supremely reliable and rattle free. Yes they need fitting properly, they might need spacers for frames with lots of tyre clearance, they might benefit from a custom bracket at the seatstay. A surprising amount of work to fit I agree, but a worthy investment for comfortable winter riding and reducing the need for bike maintenance.

I feel like Cannondale kind of pioneered suspension on gravel bikes so when they relaunched lefty on the Topstone Fox and Rockshox didn't have a gravel suspension fork. If you're mountain biking in thick mud regularly then the play that develops in jockey wheels is incredible. I would say I only get 1000-1500 miles out of cheap jockey wheels,

Full mudguards made by Bontrager are great, they have a lot of adjustment points to make them fit exactly on the bike, but I hate that noise on every bump.

Much, much better on wet group rides with full mudguards. Ass-savers don't help the poor sod behind you. SKS Raceblade Pro's are great and go on and off in seconds.

@huntos83

6 ай бұрын

Raceblade are good for a quick fit solution, but they don’t offer the coverage or protection for other riders that full length guards do. They simply aren’t long enough. Plus if you don’t tape the frame they can damage the paint where they fit

As a slate owner, I feel specifically attacked by this lol

I think I just saw something about a cast aluminum bike frame with the mudguards included as part of it. Would that be the ideal implementation of them?

I used to go through 2 or 3 sets of jockey wheels a year as well on gravel. Even the sram blackbox and c-bear partial ceramic ones used to bug up. I ended up with superstar components which have a additional solid labyrinth cap for extra sealing, its the only thing that worked for me so far

I got Curana C Lite mudguards on my gravel bike. The front can be taken off in a minute. The rear would probably take like two minutes to take off. They do not rattle or make any sound period. They're super stiff, yet only around 400g. Awesome. And I'll happily invest all the time in fitting mudguards for all the time I'm saving in maintaining my drivetrain and washing my bike. It's incredible how little dirt ends up on the cranks, BB area, chainring etc with a full length front mudguard. And the stuff just does not wear out.

I reckon Tailfin would design an awesome mudguard. As an Aussie and a bike mechanic, I too hate mudguards!

I do agree that mudguards need development, they have basically been the exact same design forever and it’s certainly possible to innovate them. For example something like the Fidlock connectors could be used, so you can have proper full mudguards that can be fitted to and removed from the bike in seconds without tools and without straps etc that damage your paint

@advleon

6 ай бұрын

This might already be a thing with SKS Raceblade mudguards.

@huntos83

6 ай бұрын

Nah, I have a set of raceblades, and while they are one of the best clip on mud guards currently they don’t offer that much coverage. You get nothing in front of the fork so you get spray coming up and back into your face, and they don’t drop down at the rear anywhere near enough to properly protect the rider behind. Plus if you don’t tape the frame where you mount them grit gets in there and rubs off the paint. I have proper mudguards on my winter bike and the difference is night and day, you stay dryer, and the person behind you stays a lot dryer.

an OSPW can help provide more gear range too. for example increasing a 28t capacity to 32t. i wouldn't use a ceramic speed to accomplish that though!

Swapped from wiper type jockey wheels to ceramic bearing type and the effort to spin the chain dropped significantly. Worn out bearings can cause all sorts of issues including chain wear.

Roadies talking about MTB stuff is hilarious. Maybe ask someone who knows.

but ceramic bearings still wear out... but they don't wear oust ceramic balls, they wear out ring/races. Races should be covered in ceramic material to make this sensible. Other than that it's kinda high priced gimmick. Like going to "audiophiles audiovoodoo" territory

@veganpotterthevegan

6 ай бұрын

Jockey wheel bearings are under a very low load. You're gonna wear the pulley down long before wearing the races out

Kinesis Fend-off aluminium guards dont rattle or break. Best guards I've had. Why do they interfere with working on bike? They dont stop me and ive been building and maintaining my own bikes for 54 years. Perhaps you just need more experience 😂

Cannondale has a history of doing something goofy then marketing the hell out of it!

@veganpotterthevegan

6 ай бұрын

I can't get over looking down at lefty forks. But their actual ability to function is extremely good. They're also faster to service

@garthTurningCranks

4 ай бұрын

Lefty just works. Ocho just made a good fork better. No stiction, super stiff, but yeah Wheels I can only use on Lefty, and don't get me started on the haphazard implementation of AI offset. It's just so much better on 12 speed. It's on the Scalpel Full Sus, but not on the Scalpel HT because ??? 🤦‍♂

A Lefty fork made sense for racing bacK in the day when xc racers used inner tubes , at least for front wheel punctures

Scott makes some well fitted, direct mount mudguards for the Addict & Addict Gravel though, don’t they? I’ve never used them, but seen them & you guys are a Scott-sponsored channel, correct? Grab a pair & do a review!

Ceramic jockey wheels are a scam

Lefty underrated so good for xc

I’ve got ceramic jockey wheels, for the exact reason this lad said, durability and no rusting.

Have more videos with Nic. His candor is refreshing.

Have to disagree. AS a fellow South African, mudguards are the must UNDERRATED component in the world.

Surprising that you guys seem oblivious to Ceramic Speed 12 tooth narrow-wide jockey wheels?

Dude ass saver blew my mind why did I not think to get one?! THANK YOU

SKS fenders are for amateurs. Use full aluminum from Velo Orange or Honjo/Rene Herse. The latter will take you hours to set up, impractical for shops but for the rest of us there's no contest. Add a plastic mudflap to ~3" of the ground on the front wheel, drivetrain stays clean to the point where I don't have to re-lube anymore than I would in summer. Set up properly they don't move or rattle. I now do 100-200k rides all winter in all weather, with plastic fenders or Ass Savers this was unbearable. I'm surprised--riding in British weather--you guys don't know this!

@MultiMeschi

3 ай бұрын

Pretending you're better because you use expensive metal mudguards is pretty hilarious

I recently been using the Ass Saver Win Wing and they have been amazing at keeping my bottom dry from the up spray from a rear wheel! The closest thing of a full rear mudguard in terms of dry bottomness.

@huntos83

6 ай бұрын

But what is the benefit of it over an actual full mudguard?

@HanOfGod13

6 ай бұрын

@@huntos83 lighter, easier to put on and take off, more universal if your bike doesn't have mounting points for mudguards to name a few. It's all personal preference. I only really use a rear mudguard and this is one of the better ones. I've not had a wet chamois from the up spray of the back wheel.

Bikes over 3000€ for sunday riders?

"Why not just have 4 wheels like everyone else" 😂

Who is this mechanic please? What's his name?

Jimmi needs a MTB 😂

Tailfin make us propre mudguard 😂😂😂

discussing baked beans really!

Because Jimmi doesn't ride mountain bikes, he thinks suspension forks are overrated? "I don't change my stuff, and you don't need too". Jimmi is the guy who local bikes shops hate because he runs the most clapped out garbage.

@randomdude4620

6 ай бұрын

he is talking about gravel not mtb

@fletcherjoel

6 ай бұрын

He literally never says gravel, @@randomdude4620.

being a bike mechanic is overrated.

The lefty is overrated? You didn’t say one word about function. It’s an excellent front suspension. No, it’s not made as a generic part.

@user-jr3hp9bd9h

Ай бұрын

The more I watch this channel the more I realise they dont have a clue most of the time..

Ok, I was sort of on the fence about this mechanic guy, but have now concluded he’s actually most definitely a knob. Saying that mudguards are overrated sealed the deal. Case closed.

@joshpower1073

6 ай бұрын

Mudguards are crap...

@huntos83

6 ай бұрын

@@joshpower1073getting cow/horse sh*t sprayed up in your face on a country road is more crap

CARBON!!! OVERRATED!!!