What set the game apart was the warcaster and warjacks... but as the game continued the warjacks fell behind. It became infantry hordes and elite infantry and the advanced warcasters.

I was introduced to this game at my local game shop. I loved it...i was introduced to X-Wing shortly after. It was easier to get into X-Wing but I never forgot Warmachine, it's esthetic and lore. Hope one day someone brings it to prominence

Feels like leadership lost the passion for the game. Matt Wilson lives in Cali and the rest probably weren't paid enough so they left

the looks also does not help that they are clearly basing the artstyle off of the failed game warcaster a super generic sci-fi game.

The game lost me when it went beyond a Warcaster and a handful of Warjacks. The infantry and cavalry were too much

Rob, you forget that at one point Xwing miniatures was the number one selling miniatures game. It was beating out everyone, including GW. Aren't the guys that ran Privateer Press into the ground the same guys who are running Atomic Mass Games now??

I remember being so excited for this game and buying tons of stuff on ebay to paint and play. By the time I was painted the meta had disappeared along with the press ganger program.

3rd ed also killed off a lot of passion. The rules were unispired. Everyone started playing with flat terrain mats and huddling everything in huge blocks like it was Napoleonic tactics. There was also a ton of bloat as they kept producing content but not culling older units. Many of which they seemingly couldn't keep in stock.and kate 2nd ed was the rise of the behemoths and war engines, which had large pricing and became must haves. They also spread out with many other smaller bkard games that never really sold too well and tried to go into a space setting after pulling an age of sigmar like event. Which did not go so hot for gw.... killing off characters and the world to bring in the demon faction. This was followed by a warcaster, which was too generic looking and feltbagain uninspired imo.

I actually bought some Crucible Guard within the last two years. And then I find out I've landed on a sinking ship. So sad, because Privateer Press seems to be a more customer friendly company than GW. Besides, they use a pirate flag for crying out loud!!!

Feel bad that they also ended up as collateral damage of the Mythic Games disaster. A strong retail version ofbMonPoc could have really worked as an evergreen product for them.

I loved Hordes. I would play casually with my small army, which went -okay-. But most people I played with only ever wanted tournament practice, so I quit. I still followed all the news with excitement, but was never able to jump back in. Something always put me off. With MKIV, it’s the price.

I wont say I ever left GW or PP...however GW left me in 8th Fantasy and 6th 40k. Grimkin came out and I got the "writing on the wall" feeling and then PP left me fully in Mk3.

They had me back on mark iv until I saw that the new and improved starters were then made new and improved again...

I’m finding this a good time to pick up cheaper models to complete my skorne and trollblood armies… not moving into their new version…

did you hear about Steam forged games buying warmachine?

Wow they even got rid of their forums etc.

My opinion

I played Mark III and had a lot of fun, at least initially. I got into it because I refused to have anything else to do with GeeDub. I enjoyed the models and painting, but i picked Khador - and that didn't go so well. I found Warmachine to be overly competitive and the scene here was not newbie friendly. Someone did run an escalation league, and I did pretty well, but I did not memorize every character and jack like some folks seemed to.