Ok but he’s a better son than the original Seymour because in like 26 years the original one never reached out to his mother at all.

@foxbuns

10 ай бұрын

he stated he was held prisoner in china until recently

@Noah-bl4id

9 ай бұрын

@@foxbunsstill tho he could have sent a letter

@foxbuns

9 ай бұрын

@@Noah-bl4id from Chinese prison camp? lol

@Noah-bl4id

9 ай бұрын

@@foxbunsI’m pretty sure they have mail in china numb nuts

@mohannadali9662

9 ай бұрын

​​@@Noah-bl4idmaybe. Depends on how much attention he drawn to himself, how much his worth is as an American citizen, and on how capable technology of spreading information was back in those days, and how serious his crime was. Hard to tell really, but I'd lean on that he wouldn't be able to send anything. Edit: oh that wasn't that long ago, just a few years.

Armin Tamzarian? A rebellious youth? Ho ho. Superintendent Chamles that sounds like quite the wild dream. Nevertheless I'm glad you're awake. The steamed hams are ready.

@Aerodeth

9 ай бұрын

"Mmm! These steamed hams are delicious! You just gotta give me the recipe for these!" "Oh ho ho! I'm sorry Superintendent Chalmers, but I'm afraid that's impossible. The main ingredient is no longer with us." "What do you mean? What's the main ingredient?" "....THE REAL SEYMOUR!!!"

@touma-san91

Ай бұрын

*Super Nintendo Chalmers

"If I'd known there was a war on I would have just apologized" lol

@jesscorbin5981

9 ай бұрын

But then he decided to impersonate... another soldier

@dertery8724

3 ай бұрын

In the full clip he is given the choice between jail, the army, and to apologise to the old lady

When they jumped the shark. It still had funny gags then. This also retcon one of my favorite running gags, that Skinner was a badass straight laced Green beret.

@byrondejong9872

9 ай бұрын

The nightmare of having your whole platoon eaten by an elephant was just a lie. I'm not willing to accept that.

@rexjolles

9 ай бұрын

@@byrondejong9872 don't worry, Matt groening said this wasn't canon, he actually despises this episode

@Rensune

7 ай бұрын

He's still a badass Green beret in this episode. It's mainly his name that's different

@ToxicTurquoise454

6 ай бұрын

Boo hoo, get over it

@obeseperson

5 ай бұрын

@@ToxicTurquoise454wow you really showed them dude

And the real Seymour moved to New Hampshire and ran for president😂

The episode was fun, but all the things which were mentioned before about Skinner, pictures from his time in Vietnam, the flashbacks, and how he returned to the military (they would have known that he was not the real Skinner) had to be retconned for this episode.

@stebbenwolfe

8 ай бұрын

But the episode also retconned his past as well in a way that made no sense.

@Kaiimei

7 ай бұрын

True, but you can say the same about a lot of Simpsons lore, so much of it contradicts itself that it's all just one big jumbled mess.

@dertery8724

3 ай бұрын

This episode itself is no longer considered canon.

@christianfieldhouse2728

Ай бұрын

I don't remember what season this is, but at a certain point it's a show with a mostly consistent timeline, and at some point it morphs into a vain shadow of that first show.

@steverogers7601

28 күн бұрын

Fun does not mean good.

You've cut Ralph's ''go banana''! The single best line in the whole series. That's unforgivable.

6:19 one of Nelson’s best Ha-ha’s 😂😂

@MrAdamske

Ай бұрын

idk why but I burst out laughing too xD

@winkone101

Ай бұрын

It's almost a running joke that Nelson's Ha-ha's have a variety of meanings, like when Bart breaks his leg or when Flanders laments Edna

The real question is who can steam the best ham

Great now we got a rogue Seymour. It would be awesome if he made a cameo as a background character.

@mikearmstrong8989

10 ай бұрын

What if he appears on a Season 35 episode? Made by Ghostwriter

@sandhilltucker

9 ай бұрын

@@mikearmstrong8989 I think it would have to be a weird nod. Like heavy enough people notice it but not heavy enough that he interacts with main characters. Like they're at the DMV somewhere and off in the background there is Skinner getting mad at a worker because his paperwork won't go through or better the VA.

@ruddiestmanx5116

8 ай бұрын

Either that or a fight scene would be cool. Both of them fighting each other.

I used to the love Simpsons it changed so much over the last 5 years I can’t watch it anymore

@spaghettioverlord3247

9 ай бұрын

This is from season 9…

@Quole1234

Ай бұрын

5 years? Try 20.

@shanenice5380

20 күн бұрын

90s i loved​@@Quole1234

@HandsomeBastard

14 күн бұрын

Don't

"But, I'm a war hero" Homer " and we salute you" ; guess kind of a look on how we treated Vietnam Veteran's when they came back.

@sandhilltucker

10 ай бұрын

Yes, the entitled college students protesting a war. When the boys did come home, all the entitled college students threw rocks and rotten fruit at them and called them child killers. Shows you how hypocritical, entitled and judgemental the left can be.

@Scatt2k7

10 ай бұрын

Typical yanks.

@Jared_Wignall

9 ай бұрын

That and they were spit on and called names due to how unpopular the Vietnam War was.

@jaggg.3821

9 ай бұрын

@@Jared_Wignall oh yeah, people keep trying to say that never happen to the Vets but, then historians and writer's never bother too speak to The Vietnam Veteran's who did get spit on.

@ninab.4540

9 ай бұрын

​@@jaggg.3821We've all seen Rambo we know the Vietnam vets were treated like crap

The most important aspect to this project was that we lovingly made the decision ❤

They should make an episode where Sargent Seymour Skinner comes back to the town for certain reasons

If this was a movie plot I’ll be an awesome one!

No wonder he's so at odds with Bart. He WAS Bart at some point in his life.

It'd work that the "real" Seymour is an imposter (or just a new principal who seems more qualified for the job) and only reveals our Seymour had a shady young adult past before joining the army, which our Seymour admits and that turns people against him (maybe they're already annoyed they have to come to sucky parent meeting and superintendent is also looking a way to get rid of Skinner), and his bitter mother goes with the scheme because she's an a-hole. Skinner plummets and thinks about if his misdeeds really define him, tries to be a hooligan again, meanwhile everyone begins to miss the real Seymour. Episode plays as normal but Skinner is still Skinner.

@seeleunit2000

Ай бұрын

That would have made much more sense

Nelson laughing at Skinner for being a war hero was so unexpected

Homer and Skinner synchronizing. 7:40

I feel that the original Seymour should've been Armin Tamzarian

I honestly quite like this episode. It might be because it's basically the same plot as Don Draper's in Mad Men, it might be because President Bartlett is in it, it might be because I just really like the name Armin Tamzarian.

5:04 That must be where he picked up on Steamed Hams

@BaronVonMott

Ай бұрын

"I'm from Utica and I've never used Canadian dollars in my life!" "No, not in Utica, it's more of an Albany thing."

6:15 idk why this cracks me up every time 😂

We never speak of this episode

Nice cameo from Martin sheen

@ajk

9 ай бұрын

Never realized it was Martin Sheen till now....damn between Steve Martin as Ray the Garbage Commissioner, and this role here, the Simpsons had some awesome guest voice actors/roles way back when.

This was the turning point of the simpsons.

@affanjamsari5752

10 ай бұрын

And not in a good way.

@bluehedgehog123

10 ай бұрын

I guess

@spicysashage1886

9 ай бұрын

For some people. It gets a lot of unmerited hate.

@marionuso

9 ай бұрын

@@spicysashage1886 Nothing "unmerited". It's garbage.

@jimreily7538

9 ай бұрын

It was already in the doldrums before this. I think season 9 is when they started with crappy episodes and season 12, or around that point is the one without any good episodes. It got worse from there and continues to degenerate.

Like Comic Book Guy says: Worst episode ever. However, Skinner's past is cool, if you forget all the Sh*t about the other Skinner, we have a more interest character

Fun fact! Armin and skinner worked for the Green Berets! Apparently the most elite unit in america along with the 75th, NSDWG, Delta and much more.

@BenHopkins1000

9 сағат бұрын

Probably ran with the 5th SFG

Harry Shearer voice,I love his voice

One of few old simpsons episodes everyone pretends it never existed

@SteelBallRun1890

6 ай бұрын

BS everyone brings this episode up all the time unprompted. And despite being 20+ years old people still pretend it's a bad episode when it's really, really not.

Suddenly Seymour 🎶

Agness doesn’t salute her own son😂 she just watches him go.

How could you cut out "go banana" lmao

Why people hate this episode so much?, It no changes nothing, skinner keeps being the Vietnam veteran. xD

@ThumpingThromnambular

9 сағат бұрын

The idea is that the Simpsons no longer treated its characters like other shows. In a way, it didn't take itself serious anymore.

"I know we were planning on seeing a movie tonight, but instead I'm leaving town forever." - every introvert

Arman is like the original Don Draper....

I feel like this whole turning point episode of The Simpsons could've been avoided if it was all revealed to have just been a dream. What an insult to the audience

@fanofmediastuff269

9 ай бұрын

Or if Seymour gave his job to Armin after realizing how hard it is and decided to stick around to help his mother. That way we have a new change nights series (Principal Armin and the real Seymour) instead of retconing everything in 20 minutes

@rexjolles

9 ай бұрын

well it's not canon, so it's not fact

@fanofmediastuff269

9 ай бұрын

@@rexjolles Ultimate retcon even before audiences first reaction

@turdburglarsarguewithme

8 ай бұрын

Not really, at all lmao. If you think this is an insult, you have bad taste and are extremely thin skinned

Identity theft is not a joke. Millions of families suffer every year!

@noveaubleu8716

6 ай бұрын

Thanks Dwight

James Earl Jones narrated well. 😂

Most people don't understand the scene where Skinner pick ups jacket and says: "Well its time to pick up where I left"... in reality soldiers return after duty where they left their lifes behind, most in teenager years, thats why skinner returned back to life of "Punk" a really powerful message

Not going to lie, this is the way I am with clocks in my house.

@marionuso

9 ай бұрын

You replace them with your real son?

Whole episode could have avoided the retcon if the real Skinner went MIA and our Skinner continued to serve in the military going through all the exploits we see in flashbacks. Then he goes to visit real Skinner's mom after all his time in the military and takes the identity from there. Some of the flashbacks do make sense in the retcon though, his whole platoon dying to an elephant stops anyone from contacting someone who would know he wasn't Skinner.

Bart"principal Skinner"? Principal Skinner"up your children"

Armen Tamzarian is an Armenian name ....usually loyal type of people

@ForTheNarr

Ай бұрын

Isnt his name Armin?

@HandsomeBastard

14 күн бұрын

ARMAN. And they're mostly weasels .

@HandsomeBastard

14 күн бұрын

They're mostly weasels.

Moe , a Hero ... The End

Milhouse is just as worthless as his father. I’m glad Lisa dumped him and told him she could never love someone, then ends up marrying someone lol

The annoying part about this episode is it isn't even that bad, it actually had solid funny bits. People also exaggerate the "the creators treat this as non-canon" when all they really said is you can treat it as non-canon if you want, WHICH IS THE POINT OF THE EPISODE. The end of the episode is literally a gag about how the status quo just soft resets because its a cartoon. Same way the show has a floating timeline, same way Homer can get fired and rehired, or take another job, or take millions of vacations to have an episode. Skinner's backstory here doesn't even fully break any other backstory he had before, he still served in 'Nam and still did his duty that any of his flashback could easily be real with just minor adjustments. No, the hot take for this is this episode isn't as shark jumpy as people thought, and everyone just pretends its bad because years of media telling them its bad.

7:05 "Why is Marge here?" Is just so funny to me for some reason

How'd they cut out the best line? "Up yours children". 😢

Missed Chalmers line at 0:24: "Good lord, the rod up that guy's butt must have a rod up it's butt!"😆

This was the most nonsensical episode ever but it was still well done classic Simpsons. Anyway, I'm glad they got rid of the 'authentic skinner' LOL!

The episode is okay - quality wise. But the fact that it sort of slaps longtime fans in the face. And - in the end - was TOTALLY unnecessary. Makes it just awful, imo. ☮

Literally the man who sold the world

"glamorous past"?? I hope you mean the motorcycle and leather jacket and not the robbing old ladies and traffic accidents...

Moe also saved them

@herrmajor2310

10 ай бұрын

"One very special person." *Moe's good deeds using the fan and parasol.*

This is basically how the lost boys came to be.

Ok the reaction of everyone is soo stupid! Hes still the same man he ever was, hes name is different thats all.... And now hes a stranger to them? Morons xD

maybe its because he didnt had any parents, when he met seymor mother he never had the mother in his life

I think principal Walter Seymour skinner Sr (born armin calvin tamzarian Sr) might be born in 1943 or 1944 I think his birthday is November 1st plus he's 79 or 78

This was the episode where the simpsons jumped the shark

" Up yours children "

The one liners were perfect in this era of the Simpsoms.

Principal Seymour was a alpha male

"From now on, you're gonna see a new Seymour Skinner." "Oh no, we won't!" "Yes, mother."

Everyone hating on this episode, but as a lifelong Simpsons fan, this episode intrigued me as it felt different. Broken fron the normal formula I have seen over 500 times and kinda made Seymour different under a new light. Plus he was still in the military so there's still a lot we don't know about hin that wasnt touched yet. Idk, I just liked this episode 💙

I like this.

7:19 That's an amazing joke!!

Still believe this isn’t canon to this day

Boy, I sure hope somebody got fired for this blunder!!!!

"Mrs Krabapple, the pledge please."

I just noticed where Frank Darabont got this story from, The Majestic movie. It was just like that movie, which failed to win Best picture of the year at the Oscars.

“You know anything about being a principal?” “Well it’s been my lifelong ambition!” “Good enough!” This is how teacher recruitment actually works.

Internet king

Steamed hams

"Up yours, children!"

the episode that never should..... also.. why would real seymour get to be principal, just like that :p

@marionuso

9 ай бұрын

It was his dream.

@ThenameisNiels

9 ай бұрын

@@marionuso it's just a show, but...... getting a job, because it was a dream., I wanna have Elon Zuckerbergs job, that's my dream (I am just not okay with effing over a bunch of people :p .... the only problem :p)

You cut out the best part. "Go banana!"

hes so FINE

Mad Men before mad men

@0:55 that reminds me of Howard Wolowitz's mom.

6:30 this Seymour doesn’t like listening to his mom

How come the real Skinner never returned?

@marionuso

9 ай бұрын

Episode end reset. It was a thing most always. That and this whole idea was garbage.

@urbanyouths

9 ай бұрын

Would you really want to come back to a town that tied you up an banished you on a train?

@urbanyouths

9 ай бұрын

@@marionuso Maybe for you on the spectrum redditers. It's actually quite a funny episode, the fact Agnus just wanted someone to be subservient to her whims, and how crazy the town is to banish the real guy is priceless. And I think the imposter concept is an interesting premise, especially contrasting Skinner's early life.

@jimreily7538

9 ай бұрын

​@@urbanyouthsIt's silly. It's not the worst episode. But it's a marker of when the series began to decline. It continues declining to this day.

@urbanyouths

9 ай бұрын

@@jimreily7538 No, that's not the episode that marked the decline, it's when Dana Gould took over production and ran it into the ground.

I remembered it wasnt review well this ep

Is FlanCrest enterprise name taken?

7:40 that synchronized awkward car exit.

6:18 War heros Are funny according to nelson

5:09 UPSTATE NEW YORK YEAH!!!!

Episode: The Principal And The Pauper (AKA the worst episode of all time).

@urbanyouths

9 ай бұрын

For you on the spectrum redditers. The jokes are really funny if you were able to ignore your "muh canon" tism.

@jasperwilliams9619

6 ай бұрын

​@urbanyouths we just don't like it. Lobbing insults doesn't change people having an opinion.

Willie the teachers lounge is for teachers. Poor Willie. 😂

armin tamzarian....atleast the truth does hurt alot more then a lie.

Tell me what time it is... NOW!!!😂😂😂

The lord of the flies Allusion was gold

just realized this is literally the plot of mad men

The little car ride exposition dialogue is kinda stupid but it made me laugh

Old neighborhood? Doesn't he mean glendale where the most Armenians are at

Seymour tell me what time it is NOW

"It's been my ambition" is not the same as "Yes, I have the ability to teach"

Is this episode before or after mad men

@davidbernier5782

10 ай бұрын

Waaaay before

Watching this episode feels like some sort of alternate universe where the Simpsons was some sort of serialized drama. I don't know what they were thinking

6:19 HaHa