Prince's Unparalleled Artistry: Frank Zappa's Perspective
Prince stands among a very select few who win Zappa over. It's nearly impossible to find examples of Zappa praising a contemporary who occupies a space in the pop world. And, yet, here it is.
From Kitchener Leslie [GREATLY APPRECIATED. THANKS FOR FINDING THIS AND CALLING IT TO MY ATTENTION]:
From The Real Frank Zappa Book (1989): "The PMRC's list of people signed to member labels of the RIAA who were 'offensive' in 1985 was pretty ridiculous. The Captain and Tennille were on it for 'Do That to Me One More Time'. The Jacksons were on for 'Torture'. Bruce Springsteen was on for 'I'm on Fire', and, of course, Prince, for the fabulous 'Darling Nikki'. Where was he throughout all this? He went apeshit and sued some spaghetti company for calling their product 'Prince', but remained curiously silent during the record-ratings stuff."
* New material added to this reworked video from a previous release. Zappa's battle with the PMRC is briefly alluded to towards the second half of the video*
A rare Zappa review of Prince and his singularly unique vision of his art and business approach.
Frank Zappa discusses his admiration of Prince's ability to keep record executives (Warner Brothers) at arm’s length while Prince creates, molds and recrates his image, style and vision.
From Wikipedia:
Prince Rogers Nelson (June 7, 1958 - April 21, 2016), more commonly known mononymously as Prince, was an American singer-songwriter, musician, and record producer. The recipient of numerous awards and nominations, he is widely regarded as one of the greatest musicians of his generation.[3] He was known for his flamboyant, androgynous persona;[4][5] his wide vocal range, which included a far-reaching falsetto and high-pitched screams; and his skill as a multi-instrumentalist, often preferring to play all or most of the instruments on his recordings.[6] Prince produced his albums himself, pioneering the Minneapolis sound. His music incorporated a wide variety of styles, including funk, R&B, rock, new wave, soul, synth-pop, pop, jazz, and hip hop.
Born and raised in Minneapolis, Prince signed a record deal with Warner Bros. Records at the age of 19, soon releasing the albums For You (1978) and Prince (1979). He went on to achieve critical success with the influential albums Dirty Mind (1980), Controversy (1981), and 1999 (1982). His sixth album, Purple Rain (1984), was recorded with his new backing band the Revolution, and was also the soundtrack to the film of the same name in which he starred. Purple Rain garnered continued success for Prince and was a major commercial achievement, spending six consecutive months atop the Billboard 200 chart. The soundtrack also won Prince the Academy Award for Best Original Song Score. After disbanding the Revolution, Prince released the album Sign o' the Times (1987), widely hailed by critics as the greatest work of his career. In the midst of a contractual dispute with Warner Bros. in 1993, he changed his stage name to the unpronounceable symbol Logo. Hollow circle above downward arrow crossed with a curlicued horn-shaped symbol and then a short bar (known to fans as the "Love Symbol") and was often referred to as The Artist Formerly Known as Prince (or TAFKAP) or simply The Artist.
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BACKGROUND (by way of) EXPLAINATION
I have been obsessively listening to Frank Zappa and The Mothers of Invention since the summer of 1979. Nonstop Zappa consumerism with some MOI thrown in. These videos seek to provide context to Frank Zappa’s entire body of work.
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@jupitermoongauge4055
Жыл бұрын
Dishonest video. Hes not commending Prince he's commending the deal between Prince and Warner bros. Zappa also merely said Prince is a creative guy, he certainly never called him a genius.
@tommtommkin
Жыл бұрын
So your just putting anything out there about Frank Zappa then? And this included my Prince huh? You got views from Princes fans because of Prince not because of Zappa. When did he die it was before Prince wasn't it? Ya want a lot of views? Do more on Prince and you'll get them. :)
@horrorpowerfilms9481
10 ай бұрын
@@tommtommkin actually back then Zappa did many mag interviews were he brought Prince up and yes he call him a genius. The internet isn't everything.
Game recognizes game. Two true real musical geniuses!!
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the posting and for watching.
@JP-monkeybot
Жыл бұрын
And sadly neither is now with us,Too young!
@sethputnamsghost
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely!!!🤘🤘❤️
It's cool hearing Zappa sing Prince's praises. I've always thought that they had a bunch of things in common: 1.) Both are multi- instrumentalists/composers that are recognized as iconic electronic guitar players 2.) Both had disputes with WB because they were too prolific 3.) Both created indie labels as a result 4.) Both have vaults in their studios that chronically every idea/concert/video appearance5.) Both dabble in filmmaking. 6.) Both tracked in the studio nonstop 7.) Controversial lyrical content, etc
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Great post, Sean. They are very similar in spirit and work ethic.
@VelvetVoice
Жыл бұрын
Agreed, great post, Sean. I’ve also long held the same view of Zappa and Prince sharing those very commonalities.
@terrypussypower
Жыл бұрын
It’s a bit of a stretch to say Zappa was “singing his praises”. He even said in the interview he didn’t own a Prince record and didn’t know much about his music. What Zappa was saying was simply a continuation of something he’s *always* said about the music business…that the record company executives should stay out of the way of creative people and let them get on with creating their vision *without* interference. He’s said many times that it was better in the 60’s when record companies were run by cigar smoking old guys who didn’t have a CLUE about new music, as long as it made money that was their only concern, and therefore lots of different types of music was allowed to go out on record…and that *that* was a far better situation than what happened in the 70’s and 80’s when so-called “hip” young execs took over who thought THEY knew more about what sold than the musicians themselves, which resulted in a narrowing of the styles of music that could get on record.
@RetroVzqz9313
Жыл бұрын
"E L E C T R O N I C G U I T A R"
@slmcmorris7902
Жыл бұрын
@@RetroVzqz9313 🤣🤣🤣 Damn spellcheck
"I'm goin to another world. How 'bout you?" The last line of that monologue playing at the end. And so he did...
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
davita 44... thanks for watching until the end. I played that line from that song 1,000 times over and over again when 1999 came out. It totally spoke to me. Glad you enjoyed it.
AUTHENTICITY. That's all Zappa asked for. In music, in politics, in everything. That's what makes life, life. Otherwise, you just a bot wearing brown shoes.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Be true to yourself was something he preached.
@sinistre
Жыл бұрын
Zappa fans know about those brown shoes, don’t we?
Thanks for posting this. Growing up in the 80s, Prince and FZ were two of my favorite artists . My other Prince fan friends didn't get it. I always thought they had a lot of similarities. Both great guitarists and composers. Both super prolific. Both hated the record companies. Both probably wrote too many songs about sexual activity! Sadly, both left us too soon.
@jmad627
Жыл бұрын
Very astute post. I need to get a little more reacquainted with Zappa, and I’m becoming more interested in Prince. At the moment I have "1999", and am kinda surprised I liked it as much as I did. Not that I hated Prince or anything, I just wasn’t all that interested until I actually heard him. Anyways you make a good point in that there certainly are similarities between the two.
@joeyday1252
Жыл бұрын
@@jmad627 1999 is actually my favorite Prince album. Especially the last half with the weirder / darker songs like Automatic, Something in the Water, Lady Cab Driver... etc. Hot Rats and Joe's Garage are my two favorite FZ albums. Check out Prince's instrumental "Alexa De Paris" and Zappa's instrumental "Watermelon in Easter Hay". They had a similar melodic lead guitar style with those songs.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
@jmad627: I echo what Joey Day says. Joe's Garage is a great introduction to Frank Zappa. It is musically accessible. It showcases his guitar work. And it showcases his sense of humor and ability to satire. I'd also point out that this dystopian 'rock opera' is as relevant today as it was in 1979. Sadly, in many ways the world hasn't changed much.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@matthewarms3786
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES the majority of German I know, I learned from Stick It Out.
Frank Zappa hit the nail on the head. Because when I saw the Dirty Mind Album. I was intrigued. When I started listening to him. I was thrown off by the images. His music was awesome. I decided later how I interpret Prince's image. His music won me over, not some image. Plus I heard and listened to what world he was propagating. A truly free world. To Love one another. A simple ideation. It functioned. Warner Brothers. served their purpose in the development of this genius. Frank Zappa knows what was good. He didn't judge.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
"He didn't judge" In many interviews he goes out of his way to say that people are entitled to listen and consume whatever music they like. and all of it should be made available. Thanks for watching the video and for taking a moment to post a comment.
Prince is intense. Excellent Guitar Player. Awesome.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@tommtommkin
Жыл бұрын
He was exceptional at EVERYTHING.
I only ever got to see Prince live once, in 1992 and it is still one of the best gigs I've been to and I've been to a lot of gigs.Absolute
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
There's a lot of his live performances on here (KZread) and it looks like he put on a fantastic show.
@meytecc8601
Жыл бұрын
Same here. I saw him in 1998. That memory will never fade.
The most underrated guitarist and game changer of our time.
@milesknightestrada3286
Жыл бұрын
Which one? Zappa or Prince?
@shiny_dreamer
Жыл бұрын
@@milesknightestrada3286 Prince
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Shiny for the post.
@tommtommkin
Жыл бұрын
@@shiny_dreamer Amen.
@osobucodonosor1991
Жыл бұрын
@@milesknightestrada3286 both
i played his albums in my store on Haight St in San Francisco every day until my staff protested😂 my great regret never seeing him in concert... he played every instrument on his albums his song "Wanna be your lover" was my favorite song in fifth grade , late 70's i saw him sing it on American Bandstand, my jaw dropping, in his long hair and Earth Wind and Fire tie dye jumpsuit, and he astonished me even more by barely answering Dick Clark s interview after
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
yeah, I wish I had seen him live as well.
High praise indeed. Miss em both
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
So do I.
Frank Zappa, Sun Ra and Prince were as entertaining in their interviews as their music.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Glad you found this one entertaining.
Their guitar playing had so many similarities it's too bad Zappa and Prince never crossed paths.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
That would have been pretty cool. Zappa was fond of sharing the stage (John Lennon, Simon & Garfunkel, Al Di Meola. to name a few)).
@terrypussypower
Жыл бұрын
Eh? Are you serious? Apart from the fact that they’re both playing electric guitar, there almost no similarities between Zappa’s playing style and Prince’s! It’s staggering to me how someone could make such a claim with a straight face! And I’m not putting down Prince’s playing, the guy could play an instantly recognisable style, you knew it was him, and that’s a rare thing…but he’s nowhere near Zappa!
Way back then when Warner Bros signed him they wanted Maurice White to produce his first album & tried to get Ray Parker Jr to “ help” Prince refine the track “ Sexy Dancer” Ray Parker Jr did not c anything to add 2 the project. The rest is history!
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
From what little I know about Prince it it's hard to believe that anyone would be able to produce him. From all accounts Prince was single minded and knew what he wanted. And that paid off.
@teddygee7859
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES 👁 concur! Record companies always want 2 play it “safe. “ Take no chances. If it’s not broken, don’t fix it.
A genius talking about another genius. Both were powerful enough to do what they wanted and didn't let themselves be dictated to by a few white-collar workers from behind their desks.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
You may find this interesting. It's relatively short and goes to your point kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqxhuttxYanbn7g.html
Hi. I spent 20 Years studying The two Vaults & The relationship between them. Either Frank Than Prince considered their work as an Unique Piece of Art. Actually I do considering myself one of the Biggest Historical Researcher regarding Them World wide. I Either wrote a Book analysing note by note, release by release of Their Music in order to understand the Philosophy of The Vault. I can say in first hand that Prince was obsessed with Frank. There are many Music Fragments that he took from Frank. (I won't say which or how many, but is easy to find out). 20 years researching & listening only Them. & I still continue. I do that because I'm building My Vault. Is the Third. My Goal is to Release 81 Albums. It would be the biggest Self Producing Music Acomplishment for the next generations. I'm using Frank & Prince advices to built mine.
@POODLEBITES
6 ай бұрын
best wishes for getting your 81 albums out.
Zappa is very well qualified in the music world & very very clever Man,I like this video 👍
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
As a Zappa fan, (top 3 artist of all-time for me), I Can’t believe I’m just now finding this channel. Great content, hope to see more George Duke & Captain Beefheart related work soon too!
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you found the channel. There's much more to come. But it takes a while to put this stuff together. Thanks for the encouragement.
My two favorite guitarists of all time. I love this.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Really glad you enjoy the video.
I have been a huuuuge fan of both Prince and Frank, and hearing Frank's opinion on Prince as an artist in the industry, was really nice :)) ...and how I miss hearing Frank's opinion and views these days
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Right? It's killing me that he's not here to comment.
Prince wanted Sign 'O' The Times to be a 3 record set called Crystal Ball in 1987. Warner Bros corporate fools said no - forcing Prince to edited it down to the standard 2 record set. So Prince released a Crystal Ball 3 CD set on his own indie label NPG Records in 1997. Then hypocritical Warner Bros releases a Sign O The Times Super Deluxe 8 CD set and extra DVD in 2020 after Prince has died. What assholes.
@MrSpencerMcIntosh
Жыл бұрын
In 1987 / 90s, even Guns and Roses had failed to get the Use Your Illusion series to sell properly. 22 years later we have online streaming and releasing as much material as possible makes more sense. Not advocating for the label, but no one or not many would have listened to 3 discs of that one Prince album back then when you actually needed the CD to play it.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that insight. I know very little about Prince aside from the few albums I own and listen to.
@StevieStitches
Жыл бұрын
@@MrSpencerMcIntosh Prince was more of a hit maker than Guns N' Roses were as they had a limited rocker metalhead fandom. Prince was a rebel with a diverse racially mixed fandom of black funk/white rock/synth pop fans. His rules were no rules. Warner Bros thought he was a crazy freak but if the Prince fans in the '80s would buy a double album, then they would likely buy a triple album. Prince's first double album 1999 was his first big mainstream hit in 1982. Warner Bros did release Prince The Hits/B-Sides triple album in 1993 and that was a hit, too, proving Prince wasn't so crazy to want a triple album in 1987.
@heckinbasedandinkpilledoct7459
Жыл бұрын
@@StevieStitches I think they were just nervous because his album sales were declining after Purple Rain.
@Cormac-jd2kx
7 сағат бұрын
@@StevieStitchesGNR sold way more than Prince from their first album to Use your illusion albums. 35 million appetite fit destruction in 87 compared to less than 2 million of SOTT. Use your illusion sold even more. Lies was huge too. They were the biggest band those years and Prince was commercially in decline.
Zappa and Prince sound similar in many ways. I’m surprised it hadn’t been more recognized.
@POODLEBITES
6 ай бұрын
😀
Plenty of record companies. But REAL creative genius musical artists are very rare.
@mondoseguendo6113
Жыл бұрын
True. I wonder how many musical geniuses have been stunted or squashed by record companies.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Business is business. And not to get overly preachy but the pursuit of the dollar turns otherwise good people into assholes.
Thanks for putting this together I had no idea
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
my pleasure
@theboraxbandit9563
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES Do you like or know Cardiacs? I wonder if Frank liked them.
I saw the Rainbow Children concert and couldn’t listen to any other type of music for almost an entire week. Dude was a musical genius that continued to evolved.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking a moment and sharing, Konstantin
I gotta start listening to Zappa now.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Please let me know if you would like a few suggestions.
That is so cool. Thanks for sharing!
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
I agree wholeheartedly about Prince did what he wanted to do. It didn't matter if you liked his work or you didn't. He did it his way. And he had fun doing it why he was here. Bravo Prince. I loved 99.9% of what he did.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Key. I came away with the same message. He was his own man.
I think it's safe to say that the appreciation is reciprocal: sign o the times - just to mention one iconic record - presents a lot of zappa-like elements, and in general Prince s approach to music is not different from Zappa s. In both cases, exploring and experimentation are the keys. Not to mention the deep love for music these two giants had.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Great comment, Raffaele. "exploring and experimentation" That's what draws me to FZ.
Regarding the explicit lyrics warning labels: Prince remained quiet on it because he didn't give a shit lol...a warning label wasn't gonna have any effect on what he put out. Plus he's on record as saying he didn't think parents being given a heads-up on lyrical content was necessarily bad.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
As Zappa became more outspoken against labels and ratings, he spoke about unintended consequences. Namely, mayor record store refusing to rack explicit albums. And while Prince may or may not have given a shit about warning labels, had the PMRC and the PTA gotten their list of demands implement it could have (could have) impacted Prince's ability to get some of his albums into some of the nationwide chains.
@endorphinzz
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES - Prince would eventually come up with alternate ways of selling his albums that didn't require traditional chains, so I don't think that would have stopped him, either. I mean, he was so huge at the time of the PMRC that he could have sold albums from the trunk of his car and still gone platinum lol. Record companies would have cared, though...but he would also break off signing long term contracts with record labels as well, so not sure that would have hindered him much, either.
@terrypussypower
Жыл бұрын
@@endorphinzz Well, I dunno about that. Prince released one of his albums “20Ten”, exclusively through a few European newspapers…you bought the paper, you got the CD for free. My local newsagents shop in Scotland had loads of copies of the CD left over and I asked what they were doing with them, and she ended up giving them all to me for nothing! There was about 30 of them. They ended up in a drawer in my house until the man sadly passed away, and because they were an exclusively European deal, they became a hot property for non-European fans on the ‘net. I put them up for sale on Discogs and sold them all within a week! Thanks to Prince I paid my long overdue electricity bill!
I don’t believe in the afterlife but if I did I imagine they would meet somewhere over the rainbow and get along just fine. what a great compilation video from two great artists and how lucky are we to have lived in a period of time they shared with us? Now they are gone and it’s up to us to carry their Lessons and legacies through our own endeavours creative or otherwise. Teach.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
"I don’t believe in the afterlife but if I did I imagine they would meet somewhere over the rainbow and get along just fine." Extremely well said. I wholeheartedly agree.
As they say - Real recognize real
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Agreed
Zappa was right - Prince was a genius, just like Frank himself! 💜💜💜💜💜💜❤ 4ever
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking a moment to watch and to post.
None of the comments reflect the central point Zappa was making, which was that Prince and his record label had worked out a relationship so that there would be no interference from the company. In other words, Prince retained full creative control of his product.
@POODLEBITES
7 ай бұрын
thanks for adding your post.
Prince was God's gift to music. I love him to def.
@Steve-cm2ys
Жыл бұрын
Dat means doe can't any you Finnadookies spoke english
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the post ROCKNROLLFAN. It helps the channel.
Prince was easily one of the best guitarist we've ever seen. Can play multiple style and NO ONE can touch his funkiness, production, and creativity!!
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
You know... FZ wasn't so bad on guitar either. Totally different style. But if you're a guitar person and you haven't been exposed to his stuff, reply here and I'll shoot over a link to one of his solos.
Zappa went after strong people and challenged them. He didn't bully weak people
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
That's a great point. He did not take on anyone that couldn't defend themselves.
Both were crazy workaholics who produced vaults full of material.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
We Zappa fans are getting quite a lot of vault releases. I hope the Prince curators are releasing some of his stuff to his fans.
please what 's the song at 3 minutes 10 /100 at the end of this vidéo .thanks a lot .
@POODLEBITES
11 ай бұрын
Let's Pretend We're Married. Prince. 1999.
Wise words from another creative genesis! ✌️💗
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed putting this one together. Thanks for watching / listening.
What is the tune Prince is playing live at 52 seconds in? I'm feeling that.
@masculineenergynetwork
Жыл бұрын
I found it, and I am so glad I did: kzread.info/dash/bejne/foKmo6ibY6yYmtY.html
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/foKmo6ibY6yYmtY.html
@masculineenergynetwork
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES 13 minutes of Prince wizardry. I was listening to a lecture by Jungian Psychoanalyst Robert Moore recently. He was talking about the Magician archetype within the psyche. He said, if you want to see a true Magus, look at Prince.
What are all the prince tracks that are played in this video?
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Taken from 1999 - except the featured solo. That's from the song Shhh.
Gonna be a loooooooooong time before we see anything resembling Prince. Zappa was very astute.
@tommtommkin
Жыл бұрын
The only thing that can replace Prince is... Prince cause there has never been a man like him before nor will there ever be a man like him ever again. ONE OF A KIND!
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Rod.
What was the performance with the red guitar? What song is it?
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/emiEzLR8opXHdco.html
Prince sampled Zappa in a few songs Frank saw P at a party and decided to go say hi but Prince ran away 😂
@POODLEBITES
8 сағат бұрын
😀
Prince was also a Frank Zappa fan, he sample Zappa at least once.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Indeed he did.
I saw Prince many times Whse was a teenager playing at Bunkers bar in Minneapolis.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
How cool is that!! I bet those were great shows.
Can we have this without the music in the background?
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, no. It's the way I edit.
My 2 favorite musicians. Wow! That was cool.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Really glad you enjoyed it.
“I tip my hat to you. One legend to another”
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
😁
We will never in my lifetime see another performer like Prince.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to add your post. Greatly appreciated.
It’s interesting. A lot of these great creative souls don’t check out other peoples music. They are too into creating their own thing. Prince didn’t know any of Bowies music, Zappa says he doesn’t know Princess….
@POODLEBITES
6 ай бұрын
...and no collaborations to speak of. There were some in the 70s, 80's and 90's. Not sure if there's anymore of that today.
Frank should have heard Prince play the guitar.
@POODLEBITES
7 ай бұрын
well, at least listening to this video will motivate some to check that out.
Now that Zappa has commented on Prince, my all time fav artist, I will do research on Zappa cause I’ve heard of his name but know nothing about his artistry. Never heard any of his music. I like independent minded artists who don’t seem to give a fk about what the labels think is appropriate to release, and continue on with their unique creativeness. I only heard “ Bambi” Undertaker style, after Prince’s death. Back when he did it Warner would not allow him to release it, because of their ongoing dispute .
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Rex - I feel the same way about independent thinkers and creators. Thanks for the post.
@darkbluebossa
Жыл бұрын
Zappa´s music is very varied, and he released tons of stuff. Maybe you dont like the first thing you found, but will like others. Just like it happened with Prince to me. Zappa and Prince were worlaholic geniuses.
@josephjester4917
Жыл бұрын
Zappa's "The Black Page" for starters...
@normaningemann3868
Жыл бұрын
Apostrophe is Zappa's best album,and easiest to listen too! You'll be hooked after that!
@criselda1cruz
Жыл бұрын
I, too, knew Zappa only by name and nothing of his immense catalog. I grew up around people that listened to him, but, what little I WAS hearing felt so over my head. I've recently been exposed to more and more of his stuff and learning how truly unique he is. I've seen interviews of musicians from his bands and - WOW - the respect FZ gets... (Steve Vai gives a great one that elevated my respect for the caliber of drummers he needed to work with.) I mean George Duke, Steve Vai... and the many others that hopefully people will add... My favorite album right now is Grand Wazoo, particularly the track Blessed Relief. I think hardcore FZ people would poopoo the recommendation, but I think it's a good intro for people getting their Zappa feet wet! It's the one that hooked me.
Where is the whole interview of the clip at 1:46?
@POODLEBITES
8 сағат бұрын
Society Pages interviewed FZ at his home in 1989. You can find the entire thing on Zappateers for download. Here's what I found on KZread: kzread.info/dash/bejne/poeT1aSImrjLkrw.html
What performance was this with the red stratocaster?
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Sorry, Lewis. I should have noted that.
@PibbXtraGaming
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES please tell me what it is, I'm pulling my hair out trying to find that live performance
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
@@PibbXtraGaming this? kzread.info/dash/bejne/emiEzLR8opXHdco.html
@PibbXtraGaming
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES God bless you kind sir!
Zappa once said he was at an industry event and saw Prince there, but when he walked over to introduce himself, Prince got kind of nervous and slinked away.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Someone else here made the same comment. Wish I could read / listen to the source.
Prince had control of his CREATIVITY!! you gotta respect that, and why would labels care about artist, it the end of the day its just business!!
@tommtommkin
Жыл бұрын
5 little letters... M O N E Y ........ that's this worlds god.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to add your post. Greatly appreciated.
All the best music comes from those whose music sounds like THEY made it and conceptualized the whole thing, and not major labels looking for a lick off of a trend they don't understand.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Could not agree more. Stuff that stands apart from the rest is most appealing to me.
Always wondered what Zappa thought of Prince.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
...and now you know! Thanks for watching.
I’ve often wondered why artists don’t start their own label or labels.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
With streaming and the advances to eCommerce it shouldn't be difficult to do.
I get the sense that Zappa hates Warner Brothers more than he likes prince
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
I got the sense that despite his deep animosity towards WB, he admired the deal Prince was able to negotiate with them. That was my take away.
Two of the realest right there.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it.
The man lived a hundred lives
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for popping by and watching.
both had very same important habits in common. the high professionalism towards what theyre doing, constant working ethics onntheir works and constant recording themselves or doing sessions of all sorts. zappa was a tad bit more open minded thou
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
They also have a large vault of unreleased music.
Frank actually ended up suing Warner Brothers after they tried to rip him off. He won in the end.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
...and we are all that much better off for it with the re releases of his back catalogue.
Great recognise great
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
thanks for taking a moment to watch and comment.
💜🐾
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
😁
Zappa makes a great point, remember Warner Bros wanted to have Maurice White from Earth Wind and Fire produce Princes first album, that would have undoubtedly diminished Princes uniqueness as an artist.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
William... I hope, in time, there will be more videos on this channel where people can come away and say "Zappa makes a great point..."
Kevin Smith is a fan of Prince like I'm a fan of Zappa.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking a moment to post.
Prince, my love💜💜💜💜
@Steve-cm2ys
Жыл бұрын
And you would have felt how about him had he NOT had significantly White features?
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed the video.
prince with james blackwell was amazing
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
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This interview was obviously before Warner Bros f****d Prince over.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
yup.
In my view, it appears Zappa was castigating or critiquing record companies for getting in the way of the vision of an artist. It just happened that prince was one of those that the wrecker company at the time got out of the way, mostly, to allow prince to grow. Experiment. Expresses artistic and spiritual combination with sexuality, or rather more specifically explore it. However two factors, prince was fully supported so he could focus on his music during the Warner Bros.. Records era. When he went independent sometime around midnight he’s 1996 or so Prince had to put on a lot of more hats which distracted and affected his work to some degree. So therefore it’s sort of a careful balance of not getting weight in the way of an artist and what they want to do and expressed them selves and supporting that artist financially taking care of the logistics of tours Management etc. booking itineraries you know the deal. Anyways Zappa seem to be observing someone from a distance within the music industry at that time. A lot of the footage of prince Moses from out of that time later on in his career. Interesting though that Zappa spoke about Prince on record an interview I never knew and I’ve been a prince fan for decades.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. thanks for watching the video.
A lot of princes effects and guitar sound is very reminiscent of Zappa. I have to think he listened to his music when making his own
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Many who have posted comments have made similar observations. I appreciate your contribution.
I miss him...
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
yeah, me too. fortunately there's a ton of material that continues to get released. so there's that.
Who is the "I'm too cool" interviewer?
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
The interviewer was the editor of the Zappa fanzine "Society Pages".
@getstew
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES Thanks.
Another Example is Bill Nelson.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Francois Johannson
or like his great outfits ...
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
😁
0:50 what is this track? sexy bass
@theboraxbandit9563
Жыл бұрын
and the last track could easily be a zappa bit
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/foKmo6ibY6yYmtY.html
@theboraxbandit9563
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES I should have known that.... Thanks mate!
Frank was pretty miffed about having to defend Darling Nikki to the PMRC on Prince's behalf. He talked about it in his autobiography.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
I'll need to look that up. Thanks for pointing it out.
@TheKitchenerLeslie
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES From The Real Frank Zappa Book (1989): "The PMRC's list of people signed to member labels of the RIAA who were 'offensive' in 1985 was pretty ridiculous. The Captain and Tennille were on it for 'Do That to Me One More Time'. The Jacksons were on for 'Torture'. Bruce Springsteen was on for 'I'm on Fire', and, of course, Prince, for the fabulous 'Darling Nikki'. Where was he throughout all this? He went apeshit and sued some spaghetti company for calling their product 'Prince', but remained curiously silent during the record-ratings stuff."
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
@@TheKitchenerLeslie fuck me. Wish I had thought to look that up. It would have been a great addition to the video. Thanks for sharing.
@TheKitchenerLeslie
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES Sorry. Maybe just add the quote into the description?
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
@@TheKitchenerLeslie that’s a good idea. May I give you credit for pointing that out?? If not no worries
Someone needs to suggest to Tipper Gore, that the explicit lyrics label has made music worse. The level of vulgarity on a level she never imagined, is where we are, today.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
fortunately for me I stopped listening to new music right around 1985.
When did Frank Zappa pass away?
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
1993
Kinda disappointed, i wish he acknowledged what a brilliant player he was. It's a shame he didnt explore Prince's live bootleg albums. His albums are classics but he really spreads out in a live setting. Frank would really dig it. Shame we can't hear them cover each other. Hopefully in the future, AI can do some convincing deep fake stuff 😂
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
The mere fact that Frank Zappa had something positive to say about another artist - especially one so commercially successful - is incredibly rare.
@crieverytim
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES oh, indeed. It's not lost on me. Are there any other examples of him giving praise to pop stars? My point was thar he seemed more impressed w the politics between the artist and label than the music, when had he been exposed to more of Prince's playing, he would have really dug it.
Prince was a really shy person and he let the government and PMRC bully him just like they were bullying all of pop music, and he didn't know how to state his case.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
There's what you wrote. To be sure. I also think he was so focused on his music and his career that the PMRC thing was an uninvited distraction. And so he chose not to get involved.
Saw Prince four times a while ago. Does not need Zappa's appraisal. Prince was the peak performer.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to add your post. Greatly appreciated.
Sounds like Emilio Estevez doing the interview. There's all this _documentation_ yet no mention of who it is. Kinda lousy music journalism on your part.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's room for improvement when citing sources. Sorry about that. This interview was conducted 12/88 by the editors of Society Pages, the one time FZ Fanfine. Emilio Estevez, to the best of my knowledge, wasn't there that day.
"Prince is a genius and Prince is the Boss"
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
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maybe not the guys in the valley but the guys on top certainly could/can and they call the shots of who gets the breaks nothing to diminish prince but it´s just a fact
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
thanks, nillehessy for taking a moment and posting.
Not a big fan of Prince but wish he was in a rock-band that played hard or metal because he's one of the greatest guitar players I've ever heard his version of while my guitar gently sleeps is better than Claptons
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
and better than George Harrison's.
@yindi4758
Жыл бұрын
I highly suggest checking out his live performance of Bambi and the ride. Prince shredded his guitar like no other. Its sad how a lot of his work is overshadowed by purple rain. Don't get me wrong, Purple rain is iconic. But that's only a molecule of what Prince was. kzread.info/dash/bejne/g3Wf16SCeLrcqLQ.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/mWdhxdBtZMKxZtI.html Let me know what u think!
@gabrielp1826
Жыл бұрын
Prince had a hard rock era with his all female band 3rdeyegirl. There are some shows and performances by them on KZread
Ha, Frank didn’t live long enough to see how things ended up between Prince and Warner Bros…
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
...but he wouldn't have been suprised.
I'm going to make you Millions of dollars Warner Brothers!. All I ask is that you Let me run This! and you stay out of my way!. I'm a Professional Chef and I have all the utensils and Ingredients to Prepare Delicious Dishes!.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
A great way to put it.
glowing?
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Absolutely glowering. Particularly when one considers that FZ rarely had anything positive to say about anything. Especially things related to pop culture. So, yes, absolutely glowing.
Prince was Black Zappa!
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
😮
Frank likes purple.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
😬
He probably loved that these conservatively dressed ladies protesting his lyrics, sat there and primly recited his lyrics out loud. Hilarious.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
He pointed that out a few times. And it is hilarious to hear them recite those lyrics on national TV.
I never cared about Prince’s image. Far too much going on with the music to be distracted by something like image. Sure, it’s there to notice, but it’s way in the background.
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching though.
Only 2 kinds of music, good and bad
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
I don't know, Bob. I listen to a lot of music on the road and a lot of it is meh. Definitely not good. But not so bad that I don't get lost in it. To each his own.
@bobabooey285
Жыл бұрын
@@POODLEBITES so you think there is a so so category besides good and bad?
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
@@bobabooey285 yes. I could have said that with fewer words.
Free speech BTW
@POODLEBITES
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Amanda.