I believe Bishop Barron to be a true champion of our faith. I always find him truly thoughtful and eloquent. Very well said. Thank you.

@marypinakat8594

5 жыл бұрын

Clear, comprehensive and complete a presentation. Thanks Bishop Barron and Brandon for the captivating and truly enlightening dialogue and discussion.

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

Landrum Gay Put the priests and the cardinals in prison for they are the worse sex offenders of all. Cardinal George Pell has been sentenced to six years' jail for sexually abusing two choirboys when he was Catholic archbishop of Melbourne in the 1990s. Chief Judge Peter Kidd said Pell's abuse was "a brazen and forcible sexual attack on the victims" that was "breathtakingly arrogant

@jeffreygluck6732

5 жыл бұрын

@@teenherofilms WTH does this have to do with the bill being proposed?

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreygluck6732 It has everything to do with it. The law is not obliged to go by the rules of religion. Offenders will be turned in and religion be damned. Pell is in prison. The shame of the Catholic church is so great I do not see why you believe in it kzread.info/dash/bejne/mo2hlad6gpiocs4.html

@p.doetsch6209

5 жыл бұрын

@@teenherofilms Your shame is so great you deserve hell yet Christ offers you forgiveness. Or does He pick and choose who YOU think is worthy?

May Almighty GOD forgive us all our sins and lead us into everlasting Life. Thank you Bp Baron.

Thank you Bishop Barron for your input on this matter. It validates my faith in the sanctity of the confessional. Thank you!

@marypinakat8594

5 жыл бұрын

Really great, the Podcast. Couldn't have been better on the important topic.

Thank you Bishop Barron for sharing knowledge of the Catholic Faith. I love listening to you. Sometimes your words are over my head but that’s ok. Makes me try even harder to figure out the message you are trying to get across. God Bless You🙏🏻

Excellent. God bless you and all of us and keep us strong in our Church.

Following you from Florida. Praying for you. Glad to see something good in California. Be not afraid.

Inspiring and affirms the reason we need confession. If the state succeeds it will only radically create a more powerful love and appreciation of this precious soul saving sacrament that some Catholics take for granted. God cannot be outdone by evil.

In addition to the quote from Cardinal George, I'd like to offer one by Justice Louis Brandeis: "Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding." .

Obviously much more important things in this video, but I loved that Bishop Barron gets sick of his own homilies. Back in the 1960’s and into the early 1970’s, when I was an altar server (altar boy in those days), we had one priest who had three wedding homilies and four funeral homilies. I had them all memorized.

Oh that’s funny. I did the same thing last night with our Boise Idaho bishop Peter Christiansen at the confirmation mass at St. Marks. Called him your eminence instead of your excellency. D’oh!!

This can not be allowed...Christ save us... Amen.

I'm MD, to me it seems that the seal of Confession is more sacred than the physician-patient privilege.

@pickcomb332

5 жыл бұрын

In the eyes of Catholics the obligations of the seal would be.

@IONATVS

5 жыл бұрын

It’s more sacred than the privilege between a defendant and their defense attorney: if the defendant can’t confide in their attorney they may be unable to build a proper defense and unfairly sent to jail. If the penitent doesn’t feel they can safely confide in their confessor, and leave sins on their conscience out of fear, they may spend eternity a slave to the sins from which they have not been healed, even if they sincerely regret them.

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

If you knowingly commit an abortion you can be excommunicated and the local priest is empowered to lift it. If he violates the seal he is excommunicated and only the pope can lift it.

@libertyfirst3406

5 жыл бұрын

We already hear in public discussion that Supreme Court decisions set "precedence" for all other similar cases. This is a usurpation of the designed intent of the Supreme Court. If this type of legislation were to pass it would completely violate physician- client and attorney client -privilege.

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

One is excommunicated Latae Sententiae for committing a sin that cries to Heaven for vengeance, abortion being the worst of the 4.

If the law passes and is upheld the proper thing to do is to refuse to comply. Good point Bishop Barron. As you said about abortion (my first thought was child sacrifice) if the state mandates it, the only thing Catholics can do is refuse to obey. To do otherwise would be a grave sin and a betrayal of God's one true church.

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

Kivlor It is the priests themselves who are the worst sex abusers. Get your head out of the sand.

@philoaristoi509

5 жыл бұрын

@@teenherofilms-was your statement based on FBI data? or any studies by DOJ? or just your narcissistic need to be paid attention? Or were you molested and now you see world true your haze of pain

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@philoaristoi509 My statement is based in court records. Every single person priest or not is under the law. Get off the religious horse shit and come down to earth to real life. No one is above the law. I hope Pell rots in prison.

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@philoaristoi509 And while on the subject of sins, it was the Catholic church that helped hundreds of Nazis escape to South America after the war. kzread.info/dash/bejne/YoiY1Y-JiJu0ado.html There is nothing sacred about the Catholic church

@Kivlor

5 жыл бұрын

@@teenherofilms No one who is properly Catechised believes priests cant and dont sin. In fact in times when the flock is bad, God will send us bad shepherds. As to the worst abusers, the public school system is far more riddled with sexual abusers. Not that it matters or would change the truth of the church.

I propose a sensitisation exercise across all the parishes in California. Catholics should bring the issue to the doorsteps of their local legislators.

It's anathema to break the seal of confession .No exception .Keep government out of the sacraments .

May the martyrs of Confession - John of Nepomuk, Mateo Correa Magallanes, Fernando Olmedo Reguera and Pedro Marieluz Garces - prays for us to remember the dogma of the Sacramental Seal as defined by the sixth canon of the Council of Trent and the twenty-first canon of the Fourth Council of the Lateran!

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

mariomusicmadness Yep, all created by men, human beings, not "God" all man-made rules, all man-made creeds and dogmas. I would like the guy with the red skull cap on his head to tell us if Cardinal George Pell who is now in an Australian prison for diddling little boys and other crimes, if he thinks the so-called seal of confession was ok to hush up his crimes?? And what about Cardinal Law of Boston who they had to kick out of the Catholic church because he "kept the seal of confession" and covered up 30 years of sexual abuse by Catholic priests? I guess that´s all right as long as he kept the canons, and just too bad too sad to the vidtims of clerical abuse that has been going on for over a hundred years!

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

gary: Cardinal Pell was tried multiple times with no evidence for a crime he could not have committed. The reason he was tried multiple times was that the jury did not convict him, so they found a jury willing to convict him on Catholicism alone. you will join that jury in where they are going if you do not make up for your worthless evil. The Church was created by God, not by man. What a great thing the Church is, and what a feeble thing you are.

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

@@teenherofilms Let me repeat: "What a great thing the Church is, and what a feeble thing you are." Also, let me repeat: "you will join that jury in where they are going if you do not make up for your worthless evil." The only evidence at the trial was that it was not possible for Cardinal Pell to have committed the crime. Not that reality ever mattered to satanists who think will usurp God by persecuting people who won't join you in eternity. you will not usurp God. Repent.

@asdfasdf3989

Ай бұрын

​@@teenherofilms If he was laicized, I don't think it was for keeping the Seal of the Confessional. If he was laicized, I assume he learned things outside of the confessional that he didn't report that he should have. Do you have more information on this?

Thank you

If a law is passed that priests have to report what they hear in confessions, then the same should be done with government officials who do under the table illegal things and things of that nature.

Welcome to the People's Republic of California where we can make a law to solve every problem! I am Anglican, so not fully "Catholic" but I heartily agree with the good Bishop's point in this matter. Our own communion is Australia tried to institute such a sacramental violation. The nature of Confession is that the priest is acting in the person of Christ the Incarnate Deity, Word made Flesh and as such the contents of the confession is between God and the one making the confession... There is no way around this distinction. God gives his Church the authority to loose and bind sins. Something for all those self identified Catholics such as Gavin Newsom and Nancy Pelosi to think about...

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

Joel Haas Wow. So the priest finds out someone committed a murder, he just doesnt report it, and that´s ok? Who does Cardinal Pell confess HIS sins to? Cardinal George Pell has been sentenced to six years' jail for sexually abusing two choirboys when he was Catholic archbishop of Melbourne in the 1990s. Chief Judge Peter Kidd said Pell's abuse was "a brazen and forcible sexual attack on the victims" that was "breathtakingly arrogant

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

It seems you are afraid of the Sacrement of Penance, gary. So afraid that you haven't the faintest clue what it is.

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

Also, gary, Cardinal Pell's crime was simply a farce constructed to allow him to be convicted because of his religion.

The Sacraments are free gifts from God

My understanding of what takes place in the confessional when someone confesses a crime, (rape, molestation, murder, domestic violence, etc) is that the priest will not give absolution, but tell the person to go to the police and turn themselves in. After the restitution has been made, then the priest would give absolution. So, as Bishop Barron states, you're probably not going to hear those confessions, unless the person was at a point of remorse and readying him/herself to turn themselves in.

Wonderful video, as always. Thank you. For my part, I don’t think it is melodramatic at all to envision priests in America becoming martyrs one day in the relatively near future. The church is hated so much. A priest I know said “I can see one day someone shooting me in a parking lot after seeing my collar and saying ‘There goes one of those child-molesting priests.’” Now this priest is of course not a child molester, but the public tends to just assume every priest is. When he said that, I got physically nauseous because I can envision that exact scenario playing out.

@margaretimeldaomalley9634

5 жыл бұрын

Jori Church @

@dermotoneill9868

5 жыл бұрын

Very high opinion of oneself to think they are a martyr? If you're going to be crucified find a worthwhile cause my friend.The truth might be a good starting point and you will find it doesn't involve you and dosent need your so called martyrdom🤔

@iris__and_rhizomes

5 жыл бұрын

Dermot Oneill The church encompasses the truth because it tells the full truth of God Himself. If you’re unsure of whether that is itself true, pray that God will show you the truth about Himself and the church. Showing someone the truth is a prayer God always answers, as long as the person praying is sincere in their quest.

@dermotoneill9868

5 жыл бұрын

@@iris__and_rhizomes No my friend, the church is a receiptent of truth and won't arrive unless the vessel is ready, the potter has to mould his clay before he sees it is ready to accept his water!

@iris__and_rhizomes

5 жыл бұрын

Dermot Oneill I guess I don’t understand what you meant, then. I apologize.

According to the website California Legislative Information, it looks like Senator Jerry Hill's SB360 amendment right now is trying to make only clergy-clergy or clergy-employee penitential communication reportable. This is only the start. (5) The exception described in paragraph (1) does not apply to either of the following: (A) A penitential communication between a clergy member and another person that is employed at the same site or facility as the clergy member. (B) A penitential communication between a clergy member and another clergy member.

@christopherjohnson1873

5 жыл бұрын

scepeda Anything that doesn't exempt all confessions requires priests to excommunicate themselves, though. That's the problem.

Hey Brandon, is it possible along the new chair to get Bishop Barron a new stand for the camera. It's always wiggling and the corner of the background map is always flicking when it moves! Stability at all levels! Keep it up with the show!

We are bending so much to diverse philosophy's of education on daily basis by state. I feel sorry for Roman Catholic infant, junior, & senior, schools .

Not that I don't enjoy these talks with Bishop Barron and Brandon Vogt, but I miss the solo videos with BRB.

@marypinakat8594

5 жыл бұрын

The solos are very much there. The videos with varied features serves varied purposes as well, all of them important and necessary. Not all contents may be suitable for a single format as can be easily observed.

Even lawyers don't aren't compelled to share what their clients have told them!

God gives honor , to his majesty , the poor ...

I pity and pray for those who believe there is no higher authority than A State.

There's an Alfred Hitchcock film called, 'I Confess,' that dealt with the Seal of Confession. It's based on a play where the priest ultimately dies for the seal. The film is not as tragic due to the controversy at the time.

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

jnuval I don´t see Pell confessing to his sex crimes, quite the opposite, even now he is in an Australian prison he is trying instead to cover them up

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

And what would those "crimes" be, gary? The crime of being Catholic whole monsters like you think persecuting us will ale your shame over sin go away? No, your shame over sin will never go away.

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@JPX7NGD You ask what crimes? Cardinal George Pell was convicted of sex crimes. He is in an Australian prison. Cardinal Law of Boston was fired for hushing up 30 years pf priest abuse. You want chapter and verse, i´´ give it to you. Far from being a monster i live in the REAL world, not the denial. Why deny it, it is all over the news

@jnuval

5 жыл бұрын

@@teenherofilms You may not be following the Pell story too closely as some of us are. The second trial (the appeal) overturned the first conviction due to evidence not admitted in the first trial. Pell is in jail now "for his own protection" while he awaits the third trial.

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@jnuval Totally false Pell was convicted of sexual abuse. Here is the video of his sentencing kzread.info/dash/bejne/aXZ20tKTftXQlbw.html The judge says, Cardinal Pell, please stand. You are registered as a sex offender. This is for life. " He has been sentence to six years in prison. No trial (except in your fantasy) has overturned the conviction. I repeat no trial has overturned this conviction, you are totally full of shit. The sentencing video was made on March 13, 2019. So when was the conviction overturned? Where is the news story, what paper, what video shows that the conviction was overturned? He is NOT in prison for his own protection, he was sentenced to six fucking years in prison. You are totally full of shit. Cardinal George Pell has been sentenced to six years' jail for sexually abusing two choirboys when he was Catholic archbishop of Melbourne in the 1990s. Chief Judge Peter Kidd said Pell's abuse was "a brazen and forcible sexual attack on the victims" that was "breathtakingly arrogant

This potential bill’s pre-supposition is grounded on an absent fact. It implies that the Catholic church currently stands as a theocracy in America through a practice (the confessional seal) that acts above civic law and that must be subjugated to a civic framework. The bill would hence forward frame what would then become a « legal » confession. C’est insensé. Levis Canada

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

Whoops, read that wrong, sorry.

Good conversation! An interesting question popped into my head while I was listening. What happens if, after someone confesses something like 'murder,' they then subsequently approach the priest for counseling for this same sin? Does the confession of the sin outside the confessional suddenly become reportable to the authorities? Seems like it should, but I don't know. Is it still protected under the seal of confession?

@Kivlor

5 жыл бұрын

The Church and State are at odds on this issue. From what I've seen, the church treats this as still under the seal of confession, but there was a recent case in Europe where a priest was convicted for not reporting a suicidal man who first disclosed in the confessional and then asked for spiritual direction about it, and inevitably killed himself.

@donaldduck6498

5 жыл бұрын

John Palmer In my church (Coptic orthodox) they always tell me, that a priest would tell them to go to the police station. However, I think they are not allowed to tell anybody else about the sin. Some priests even died to keep the sins of others a secret.

@marypinakat8594

5 жыл бұрын

@@Kivlor I think that is an arbitrary attack on priesthood. It could very well happen that the same course of events took place with a lay counsellor or spiritual adviser. Would he be punished the same way?

@Kivlor

5 жыл бұрын

@@marypinakat8594 In the case I am referring to, I believe the argument was "mandatory reporter, and it is outside of the confessional." I presume they would hold a counselor to the same standard. This ruling was of course a travesty. I hope other priests refuse, and that in the future the laity rise up to defend them.

@marypinakat8594

5 жыл бұрын

@@Kivlor I get it. Bishop Barron has discussed around the point amply well here in the video. It is the time for all Catholics to rise up in the political scene. No one needs and can be mere spectator.

A question for Bishop Barron. What procedures are in place in the US, when an allegation of child abuse by a priest/priests is made? The church has a severe perception problem worldwide, due to cover-ups. To a non-Catholic, I can easily see the reasonings behind such a bill.

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

It depends on the parish but generally standard practice.as seen anywhere else.

@melanieg5459

5 жыл бұрын

I’m not in the US. I’m in Canada. That’s why I’m asking.

@libertyfirst3406

5 жыл бұрын

Make no mistake that public perception, whether accurate or false, is what allows legislation like this to gain momentum. The church has already corrected and developed procedures to prevent and Report child abuse. This is why most of the scandals that you hear are in the past and not newly occurring. The Catholic Church is the most easy Target because it has a centralized system, worldwide. There is no statistical or scientific research to suggest that children within Catholic churches have a higher likelihood of being sexually abused when compared to any other group of children. The legislation would violate the religious freedoms of Catholics in America and would have a measurable zero impact.

@melanieg5459

5 жыл бұрын

liberty first It is precisely the lack of action the RC Church hierarchy took in the past that has caused the perception issue today. To a Non Catholic, ANY secrecy is likely to be perceived as a continuation of said lack of action. Not saying it is, just that it’s the perception. (And I’m saying this as a practicing Catholic)

@libertyfirst3406

5 жыл бұрын

Do you believe that perception is correct? Do you believe that we will find Sustainable Solutions through secular legislation I.e. Legal Mandate for violation of the confessional ..

Go to confession in Las Vegas? Whole new tourist industry.

@pickcomb332

5 жыл бұрын

Priest's wont stop hearing confessions in California even if this law is passed. They just wont report anything.

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

Come on I can see it now replace the wedding chapels with confession chapels. Sin city will have a whole new meaning. Tour buses full of penitents for penitential services with a side of praise and worship. Dude go with the flow. Let your Catholic sense of humor run.

@villiestephanov984

5 жыл бұрын

I heard through the grapevine Pelosi would qualify the leading guru

St. Thomas Aquinas good example

@dermotoneill9868

5 жыл бұрын

He is dead!

One question on Confession I've had for years is, can someone who has done a truly terrible crime such as sexual assault, murder, etc. truly be called "penitent" if they seek to be absolved of their sin in confession but refuse to publicly pay for their crime or do so with the intention of repeating the crime? Currently, it's my opinion that if they were truly sorry for what they did, they would take full responsibility for their actions and turn themselves in to authorities otherwise, their confession would seem disingenuous. Any insight into this would be appreciated.

@arfink

5 жыл бұрын

I'm no Canon lawer, but it seems to me that this could be a case where the priest knows or believes the person confessing has no real penitence, and this he cannot absolve. I have heard of priests asking people to leave confession without absolution in cases where the penitent makes it clear they intend to sin again.

@gpanthony

5 жыл бұрын

@@arfink Thanks for the reply! As I've said, it's something I've thought about a lot. I think it's because of the uninformed perception that Catholics can just do whatever and give a lip service confession and be considered "cleansed," which is something that I find very frustrating.

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

Anthony: The "truly terrible crimes" are abortion, sodomy, blasphemy, and denying a man his fair wage. What you describe are merely bad things. What is evil is that which seeks to destroy goodness and evil men often do not commit "crimes" recognized by your worthless state you worship.

Do any of you guys know if Bishop Barron has more than one account on Instagram? Please i really need to know. I have been receiving private mgs from an acct on Instagram called "bishop-barrons" gave me his personal email address and asked for mine. I checked that profile and it has no posts. I do follow bishop Barron on instagram and facebook and now here adhe has tons of followers and posts but this other account created sent me a request and has no posts but has bishop Barrons profile picture.. i am so confused!!! Any one??? Help pls!

The answer is always, 'yes'. -beautiful!

@dermotoneill9868

5 жыл бұрын

The answer is inevitably no!

How does hearing confessions affect Priests? Is it a burden; is it difficult to endure? Does it make Priests jaded? Does it bring joy to reconnect people and to restore a broken relationships?

@benbarker8154

5 жыл бұрын

@rickey huval These are names i am not familiar with but I will look into to help me understand. Thank you for your advice.

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

Most priests say they cant remember what people confess. But I have heard their great joy comes with the penitent who says bless me Father it has been ..... number of years since my last confession. Help me do this.

About these criminals or child abuser: if they confess, isnt part of their penance to turn themselves over? Because we need to know that everything that we do has consequences both in this life or the next. Everything bad that we do is a lesson; and part of it is even having to go to lenghts to be sorry, to the extent of having to risk your life or freedom for it. Because part of our Christian conscience is to know that if we have sinned, we have to endure that punishment.

I hope that bill also applies to Hollywood

This is satan trying to break down the Catholic Church. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on us sinners🙏🏻 Thank You Jesus for Your love, mercy and forgiveness. Thank You for the Sacraments 🙏🏻💜

Thanks your Grace for an informative video,, but I suggest you use more sunblock. Cali isn't Michigan and you're looking a little burned.

@BishopBarron

5 жыл бұрын

No, no! It's just the intense lighting we use and the close-up camera angle.

If a priest learns of ongoing or imminent abuse during confession can he take action to try to stop it which falls short of actually disclosing the conversation? What if a priest thinks a confession is insincere or even taunting him can he decide it is not a valid confession and therefore tell the police ?

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

This is a non-issue as the Church is cleanest of these things. The Seal protects the Sacrament.

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

If he thinks the penitent isnt sorry he can refuse absolution but still can't break the seal of confession BTW if you overhear someones confession you too are bound by the seal of the confessional.

if someone confess any crime the confessor must make absolution depend on repentance and purpose of amendment, this includes giving oneself to justice

Aren't there really here a whole bunch of practical reasons why any such law, ie, to "force" a priest in the circumstances discussed to "report" someone is....well, frankly....silly? 1) 99% of clergy will likely never hear someone in confession make a claim of child molestation. 2) If the priest did hear such a claim - "so what" - what's the priest going to do - throw a red cape on and spring from the confession, throw the "offender" down, 'cuff them and take 'em down town..."book 'em Fr Danno"....I mean, what's anyone expecting to achieve?. 3) Also, in the unlikely event the priest ever did hear such a claim....what did they "really hear"....what did the person "really say"....was any of it real....does the person confessing have sound mental health....etc...etc...etc who the heck is this person that in many cases, they [the priest] never got a good look at and further, "they" have long since disappeared from the Church building......a can of very tangled and unproductive worms is this path!

@WHix-om4yo

5 жыл бұрын

Well stated. In North Carolina we have the infamous "Bathroom Bill" wherein a person must use the restroom of the sex that person was assigned at birth. This, of course, was aimed at transgender people and assumes they are all predators. Can the state enforce this? Not likely. Police checking birth certificates at the doors of a public restrooms? Pretty silly isn't it? Still, the legislature spent plenty of time and treasure fighting over this "issue". And the roads outside of the legislature buildings are crumbling.

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

mmmail1969 It is the priests themselves who are doing the child molestation. This has been going on well over a hundred years. You seem to want to bury your head in the sand in favor of your fairy tale religion

@mmmail1969

5 жыл бұрын

@@teenherofilms - all organisations that deal with large numbers of kids sadly have had these people in their ranks and, at times, the handling of these matters has left much room for improvement. To infer that the RCC has any more "had an issue" with minor abuse, than the wider secular state is a total untruth. In the case of the recent findings of the Royal Commission in Australia into the Institutional Abuse of minors, by far the largest "abuser" was the secular state. As just one example, the state of Queensland alone, has set aside something like half a billion dollars to meet its obligations toward a system of "National Redress". The RCC was one of the first to sign-up for this redress system and indeed was a champion of it. Great to see your interest in the Catholic Church and God Bless you.

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

@@mmmail1969 Thank you for not feeding the trolls. God bless you as well.

In the early days of the Church grave sins such as murder, adultery, and apostasy had to be known in the Church community. Due to the unique pain child abuse causes to a community it could conceivably be made known to the community, which might lead to prosecution by the state. The government shouldn’t force the church to change (it doesn’t have the authority to do that) but the church should be open to making such changes and a true penitent must be willing to experience the consequence of their action. When I confess a lie, I must be willing to acknowledge that I might hurt the relationship with the person I lied to, this principle could be extended to grave sins that cause particular harm to the community.

We, globally, are in an increasingly aggressive secular context with the players unaware (or exercising plausible deniability) that their secular worldview is a faith, a religion, in its own right - not some neutral zone where all faiths and religions can meet without conflict. The aggressiveness of such secularism in the Nation-States perhaps signals the time is coming for the nation-state status of the Vatican to exercise its authority as a nation-state and grant to its emissaries (priests and religious) in other nation-states the status of diplomats. It is perhaps also time for Catholics globally to embrace and follow explicitly the longstanding Christian understanding that we are strangers in a foreign land. We are no longer American and Catholic, we are Catholics, living in America. (I am neither Catholic or American although I attend mass weekly). We must choose to live under the authority of the land up to and only to the point that the law of the land does not compromise the integrity of our identity. When (not if) it does then we uphold the law under which we belong - that of the Church. Conflict is inevitable. We may die on our knees in prayer but we shall not be moved.

@addtothebeauty

5 жыл бұрын

Peter Grey, I love the idea of priests/religious being emissaries all over the world. I have long believed this is how all of us Christians should see ourselves - St. Paul actually says we are ambassadors for Christ with the ministry of reconciliation (2 Corinthians 5)! This writing from Scripture gets to the core of what the Christian mission is: to help people be reconciled with God. Everything we do should serve and harmonize with this mission. Perhaps we should all take another look at it. You say you’re not Catholic, but you talk like you are. I don’t know your story, but I’d like to see your relationship with the Catholic Church become official! 😊 I just became officially Catholic at Easter. The Church is better with you in it! ☀️

@petergrey4151

5 жыл бұрын

@@addtothebeauty Thank you for your generous comments. I was a pastor in the Presbyterian Church (not in the USA) and became increasingly disillusioned with the seeming inability of sincere people to experience and participate in genuine transformation into Christ-likeness. Most especially myself and as a result left my position in the church. After much exploration I eventually concluded that there is, at this time at least, only one tradition that still maintains an active awareness of the transcendent dimension to our lives and it is the Catholic Church. It takes a long time for someone of another tradition to work through all the misconceptions they have of another faith but over time I studied what the Catholic Church teaches, not what outsiders say it teaches, I have measured it against the benchmark of Scripture, I have read the Catechism with care and studied the lives of some of the Saints. I have also followed Bishop Barron for what must be two or three years now. Today I attend mass weekly, pray the morning, evening and night offices daily and if work and time allow, pray also around midday. Had I had the opportunity to learn what I now know at an earlier age I could easily have realised my sense of call to serve the church being a priest or in a religious community. As it is it is tempting to think that my time as a pastor in the Presbyterian Church was somehow a misfire - but to think such is to question the sovereignty of God's Providence. Instead I am awaiting the opportunity to take the RCIA and once again participate in Communion. Having always been sacramental in my understanding of Communion and as a pastor acted in persona christi in the preparation and serving of Communion, it is the one thing I now miss participating in the most. Oops!! That was a very long reply!!

Repentance is a GIFT from Yahweh to those who will CEASE from sin. 1 Peter 4: 1. Those who continue in sin have NO repentance whatsoever. The sorrow of the world leads to death. 2 Cor. 7: 9- 11. Godly Repentance leads to LIFE. NEW Life FREED from sin. Rom. 6: 22. NEW LIFE : 1 John 3: 6 and 9. 1 John 5: 18. Rev. 12: 17. Rev. 14: 12. Rev. 22: 14. These alone will be saved. 1 Peter 4: 18. NO salvation for sinners. John 3: 1- 8. May Yahweh give you your hearts desire. bless you

Question, if a priest does become aware of a child who is being abused through a confession, what steps can he take to protect that child? This would apply to anyone really. If someone confesses they are planning to harm or have been harming someone? Is there anything a priest can do to protect that person?

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

Do you have any idea what the Sacrament of Penance is? It isn't a spiritual director's or psychotherapist's office.

@shannonhughes6768

5 жыл бұрын

@@JPX7NGD I do. The priest is acting in persona cristi. But that doesn't mean it didn't happen. It might mean that the priest can claim that he was not confessed to.

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

@@shannonhughes6768 The point is that the Confessional is for your own mortal sins, and exclusively to heal them. The Priest just listens in, as you are actually talking to God only.

Why does Brandon Vogt have books hanging from the ceiling?

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

I never noticed that until now. Lol.

Was the sacramento of confesión established in Jesus' time, and where? By the way, I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH THE SECRECY OF CONFESSION, under ANY and ALL CIRCUNSTANCES!

The Constitution protects every person's Rights to practice religion, e.g. going to confession, and also his Right against self-incrimination. Wouldn't this Bill violate the 1st Amendment and by extension the 5th Amendment? "No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime ... nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself ..."

Didn't Christ say "whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven, whose sins you shall retain they are retained". If the penitent admits to child abuse, can the confessor not say something like "I must retain your sins unless you report yourself to the police, when you do that I will forgive your sins"

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

The Priest is meaningless other than to give the Penance. Do you honestly thing the person is Confessing to and being Forgiven by a mere man?

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

The priest is in Personae Christi

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

@@LostArchivist The Priest has the authority to acts as a visible stand-in for Christ as Christ does all the work, the Priest is not Christ.

Bishop Barron could you consider educating Americans with the fact that "California" was founded by Mexican Missionaries, so that they know Mexican people lived there when the US took possession by force of the land so they will show more Tolerance to people of Mexican backgrounds. Not all of them are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. Teach them some humility to accept this Important Issue of our times. It would be the Catholic way of making the Truth to set us free of Arrogance, Pride and Intolerance. Will you please fight againts Ignorance?

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

mexico sold its land to the us.

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

The missionaries were Spaniards but if people dont know that blame your school system for not teaching the states history not the Church.

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

I once tried to take Spanish in night school in Brownsville Texas across the river from Matamoros Mx. Now if you want to duscuss humility the teacher declared that ONLY Mexicans could understand a devotion to Our Lady while she was teaching a bunch of hill country Germans and this Polish/German about Noche de Paz the Spanish translation of Stille Nacht which most of us could sing in the original German before we were 10. Also Poland is rather devoted to Our Lady.

I was confirmes ay around 2 years old: What did I know about it? I suppose You cannot be confirmes at, say, 18: you' re suppose yo be able yo vote, choose a creer, a husband.. a religión?

If you haven't already, please do a video on the Equality Act. We must never sin against transgender people, nor - for the sake of not offending transgender people - participate in transgender people's sins.

Who sponsored this law?

Get him a chair!!!! :)

There r no microphones in the confessional so no proof

"Let me so live that when I come to die even the undertaker will be sorry"- Mark Twain.

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

It is all about you, isn't it gary? What a poor, boring character you make though.

@villiestephanov984

5 жыл бұрын

The death of the righteous is the people's envy. You shall not covet.

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@villiestephanov984 Who are you addressing this to

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@JPX7NGD No, what it´s about is man made creeds and dogmas and having organized religion shoved own your throat to the point you are a fucking wind-up robot and feel that you cannot think for yourself! Religion, and in particular the Roman Catholic Church has always been in the control business, controlling people mainly through fear. -fear of hell, purgatory and other fairy tale ideas dreamed up by men who desired power and position. Here is another Bishop speaking in the following video and he actually makes more sense than the idiot with the beany on his head kzread.info/dash/bejne/hXpqq5ePg728ocY.html Robert Light 4 years ago "Hell is a threat. Heaven is a bribe." - Mark Twain. 130

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@villiestephanov984 So you are the bible verse expert of the Catholic control business

I'm a priest, not in CA. If my state did this and I was challenged by a prosecutor to break the seal, I'd go to jail.

Cardinal George Pell has been sentenced to six years' jail for sexually abusing two choirboys when he was Catholic archbishop of Melbourne in the 1990s. Key points: Pell will be eligible for parole after three years and eight months The chief judge said Pell's abuse of the two choirboys was "brazen and forcible" But he said Pell must not be punished for the suffering of sexual abuse survivors generally Pell, 77, was found guilty by a jury last December of sexually abusing the choirboys after a Sunday mass in December 1996 and then assaulting one of them a second time two months later. The man who was once Australia's most powerful Catholic sat in the dock dressed in a black shirt and a grey blazer, without a clerical collar, as County Court Chief Judge Peter Kidd delivered his sentence. The chief judge described Pell's abuse of two choirboys in the sacristy at St Patrick's Cathedral as "a brazen and forcible sexual attack on the victims". "The acts were sexually graphic, both victims were visibly and audibly distressed during the offending," he said. "There is an added layer of degradation and humiliation that each of your victims must have felt in knowing that their abuse had been witnessed by the other."

@mmmail1969

5 жыл бұрын

Pell is of course appealing his sentence and that appeal is now only a couple of weeks or so away.

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

@@mmmail1969 He can appeal all he wants, I hope the asshole rots in prison

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

gary, digging graves for others only leads to you falling in.

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

@@Darth_Vader258 As I said, digging graves for others leads ONLY to you yourself falling in. Now, wishing damnation (as you so horrifyingly, blasphemously do here) means you are are the only one "rotting in hell" should you not immediately repent.

A similar law has already been enacted in Australia in the ACT (the Australian Capital Territory which includes the Australian capital city of Canberra). Bishop Barron should speak to the Archbishop of Canberra and Goulburn Christopher Prowse. Peter

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

Peter Dwyer Why should he do that? So what you are saying is sex abusers should go scot free? You from Australia

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

Because monsters like you exist and we need to protect the Church from you, gary,

It didn't happen. I don't quite follow what that means and why a priest can say that and it not be a lie.

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

It is not literal. It is like it never happened.

Even as a Protestant I agree with the Bishop on the issue of confession. “It didn’t happen” is the only meaningful context in which such a confession can be made. However, don’t priests have a higher calling ? Shouldn’t there be an internal code that when a priest seeks forgiveness for certain specific sins like this, he must relinquish his title? Role? It’s not about whether God forgives or not. It’s whether he can legitimately carry out his role. Perhaps this opens up other problems.

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

In the Confessional the priest us just like me. A sinner before God. A priest unlike a protestant minister can't just quit. He has to request release from his vows from the Vatican.

@MerrittCluff

5 жыл бұрын

I understand. What I don’t understand is the failure of a priest to fully recognize when he has betrayed and continues to betray his vows that in an important way makes him unable to fulfill his call. Priests are not like the rest of us. They do have a special “calling” to serve. Bad analogy but if I drink alcohol, I should accept the responsibility of not driving.

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

There is such a thing for heresy or apostasy (leaving the faith) but that is excommunication, not defrocking. The problem is that adding such a thing would only likely lead to the priest avoiding confessing the sin.

@MerrittCluff

5 жыл бұрын

In the end I don’t see any way out of this dilemma, except perhaps the usual one of educating those who are offended to report to secular authorities what are criminal offenses. I find it sad that the RC can not find a better solution than this.

It wouldn´t be a bad idea to do some SERIOUS research apart from the bible verse about Peter being a rock and "founding a church" to ask yourself if Jesus really had any intention of setting up any kind of religious organization whatsoever, much less a political institution like the Catholic church, or that he had any desire at all to found any sort of church. The cut and paste job on the Christian bible has a lot to say about this, given that there were many outright deletions, and, more important, insertions into it from the time of the 3rd century and the Council of Nicea. You never hear Jesus speak many times about "his church" or "his religion". I cannot imagine a much worse departure from the simple teachings of Jesus than the present Catholic church with all its creed and dogma, tacked on over the centuries by men who desired power and position, and one thing surely is, is that this church is rooted in men who have power and position" If you doubt it, read up how Cardinal Law was able for thirty years to cover up the sex crimes of his priests because he had the power to do it.

@josieposie9969

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, he does, and he made it so that his inner circle of 12 were given leadership/offices to be fishers of men (remember how Mattias replaced the office of Judas in Acts) within that Church (the Kingdom of God, the Bride of Christ. . ) for the world at large. And of those 12, St. Peter was singled out to be the rock upon which this earthly Church would be built. Peter's visible headship is thereby supported by Scripture: "The third time he said to him, "Simon son of John, do you love me?" Peter was hurt because Jesus asked him the third time, "Do you love me?" He said, "Lord, you know all things; you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my sheep." Feeding and tending sheep requires authority which Jesus bestowed upon the apostles who in turn bestowed it on their successors. Acts and the epistles gives you enough information about the fledgling Church to understand just how it functioned and what its structure looked like, i.e., being composed of apostles/bishops, presbyters, laity . . . .ensuring doctrinal teaching through councils and letters to various churches by bishops/apostles, acting in unity. . . That is to say Jesus left what would be a VISIBLY STRUCTURED CHURCH when he was assumed body and soul into Heaven after remaining 50 days with the apostles/disciples (pentacost) to teach them all they would know, i.e., He did not leave a bible behind but a Church. p.s. Reading the church fathers pre/post edict of Milan will help in knowing what this Church taught , how it functioned and what books it considered divinely inspired.

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

Keepreading it is in John too.

Bishop Barrón when we going to Petition Pope Francis to Consecrate Russia 🇷🇺? Fatima Message? The fact that your ignoring this Fr.Barron is very wrong.

Lordship, as a response to your statements about the separation of Church and State with the spirit of filial piety I direct you to Pius IX fifth section of his 1864 Papal Encyclical "Syllabus of Errors" which to my knowledge has not been repudiated either by Vatican II or any facet of the ordinary magisterium. Here are some relevant snippets of propositions condemned as erroneous or heretical by the Holy See meaning we as Catholics are not allowed to believe these things: The Church is not a true and perfect society, entirely free- nor is she endowed with proper and perpetual rights of her own, conferred upon her by her Divine Founder; but it appertains to the civil power to define what are the rights of the Church, and the limits within which she may exercise those rights. - Allocution “Singulari quadam,&quuot; Dec. 9, 1854, etc. The ecclesiastical power ought not to exercise its authority without the permission and assent of the civil government. - Allocution “Meminit unusquisque,” Sept. 30, 1861. The Church has not the power of using force, nor has she any temporal power, direct or indirect. - Apostolic Letter “Ad Apostolicae,” Aug. 22, 1851. The sacred ministers of the Church and the Roman pontiff are to be absolutely excluded from every charge and dominion over temporal affairs. - Allocution “Maxima quidem,” June 9, 1862. You may agree with those propositions as error and may find a way to perhaps twist the Pontiffs words into it being support for the 1st Amendnent however I give to you this final and most concise summary statement of error covering all the rest: The Church ought to be separated from the .State, and the State from the Church. - Allocution “Acerbissimum,” Sept. 27, 1852. Finally I would recommend if it be pleasing to you to read Pope Leo XIII's Testem benevolentiae nostrae wherin American Catholics are not allowed to endorse separation of Church and State as ideal or good or many other modernist tendencies. We as Catholics do not exercise "Theocracy" except maybe for Vatican City and the sadly now defunct Papal States, though even the Popes role as Pope and his role as Sovreign over the territory are strictly separate jobs. Thats a loaded term and perhaps a bit of a false dichotomy. however we do believe in establishing Holy Mother Church as chief and true religion over heretical cults, and a symphony of Church and State where the Church informs the morality of the State and sanctions/anoints its rulers and the State protects the Church and her rights. That is not "Theocracy" that is "Catholic Monarchy." And both Theocracy and Monarchy are the only approved governments in the Bible.

So...exactly what is the "shame" in calling out the Catholic church for the sick, disgusting pedophia not to mention lying.

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

Because it is you who is lying. Why so much flak? The Bishop must be on the mark.

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

Because it is not the Church, it is the individuals that committed the acts abd those that obfuscated them that are at fault. The Church was behind in irs measures for dealing with the problems of today's society to be for sure, but the overwhelming majority of its members are just as much against such abominations as anyone else, if not more on average.

Can a Catholic that never goes to confession have eternal life . Only confesses there sin directly to God. If the answer is yes then confession to a priest is a waste of time and not necessary

@delsydebothom3544

5 жыл бұрын

In general, no, a Catholic can't have eternal life without sacramental absolution after confession. This isn't without exception, and since we don't know exactly when such exceptions apply, we could never be certain of a person's damnation who never went to confession. Still, if the sacrament were not broadly and generally necessary for salvation, God would not have given it to us.

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

No because it is a mortal sin not to go to confession once a year.

@Wgaither1

5 жыл бұрын

Nancy Janzen So I guess my mother in law is in hell then

@Wgaither1

5 жыл бұрын

Nancy Janzen Is it a mortal sin to break the greatest commandment to Love the Lord with all your heart,mind and soul. Common sense says it has be. What does the church say?

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

You are thinking like a child. It is about your relationship to Jesus not what can I get away with. Not what did Joe Blow get away with. But your relationship to Jesus which cannot be built ona lie. God will deal with each of us without relationship to others. No Catholic will ever say this person or that is in hell. Judgement as a favorite priest says is a management decision and God is management. We are in sales and service. Hs father was a used car salesman.

Let us pray for the 21 people that gave this a thumbs down. May God have mercy on their souls!!

After getting absolved from a priest of murder , is that person still in mortal sin if he doesn’t turn himself in

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

Sacrament have nothing to do with human "law."

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

Priest can suggest it but not compell someone to turn himself in. Mans law and Gods law are separate.

@Wgaither1

5 жыл бұрын

Nancy Janzen but is it a mortal sin to commit a crime and not turn yourself in . Yes or no. Or is it a Venial sin

@Wgaither1

5 жыл бұрын

Mister Magician so if I robbed a bank I get to keep the money. As long as I go to confession

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

@@Wgaither1 No that you must make restitution for. There is no way to pay for taking another life, you can do nothing to bring them back to life. Either way, you would not report it, you would restore the wealth to its owner plus any damages suffered as a result of your theft.

The Cardinal was one step off. Yes, He will die in his bed. His successor will die from over work and stress. Then his successor will be arrested and prosecuted........

Quite often commentors hope to see Bishop Barron as Pope and soon so. But we have to get a Robert Cardinal Barron first. Indeed we are waiting! It won't be Cardinal Robert Barron but Robert Cardinal Barron. I don't know why, a Cardinal's name gets written that way. And Popes seem to take a new name.

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

You dont even have to be a priest to be elected pope.

@marypinakat8594

5 жыл бұрын

@@nancyjanzen5676 Where on earth?

@WHix-om4yo

5 жыл бұрын

@@nancyjanzen5676 But it helps. CGP Grey has a great video on how to become Pope.

Did you delete the story of "Sodom and Gomorrah destruction" from your Bible? Did you delete the 6th commandment from the 10 commandments? We are not living under a rock, so don't distort the Truth. God don't want your intellect but your obedience.

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

He wants both. He wants you to love Him with all if your heart, all of your mind, all of your soul and with all of your strength above all things. The intellect must be in adherence if obedience is to occur anyway.

@fireball8099

5 жыл бұрын

The intellect that don't serve God isn't an intellect, is it? Are you more intelligent than Lucifer? I doubt it. But look where Lucifer ends up? You can't change the doctrine and the moral teaching of the Church. God wants the good part of you not your sin. If your intellect is pride then you just found your friend, Lucifer. What I mean is Bishop Barron did not stand firm on homosexual, and it is a sin as in Sodom and Gomorrah, the 6th commandment, the catechism of the Catholic Church #2357, 1 Timothy 1:8-11, 1Corinthian 6:9-11, Roman 1:26-28, Genesis 19:1-29.

@fireball8099

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/gn2IlaOTlJadeaw.html

OPEN LETTER TO BISHOP ROBERT BARRON Auxiliary Bishop of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, California Dear Bishop Barron: You say in this video that in your fourth year of seminary, in a course on the sacrament of confession, you were taught that «Once the confession HAS HAPPENED, if someone enquires "Oh, what happened in that confession?", your answer {as a priest} is "IT DIDN'T HAPPEN."» However, in this hypothetical case, confession DID happen-so, you are saying that you were taught that LYING is built-in into the aftermath of the sacrament of confession. I think you really need to ask yourself if what you were taught is compatible with the teaching of Our Lord Jesus Christ and His Church. Christian doctrine and common sense dictate that the SIN of LYING by a priest, CANNOT be a part of, nor be attached in any way whatsoever, to the perfect sacrament of confession or any other sacrament of the Catholic faith. When you give the sacrament of confession to Mr. So-and-so and you are thereafter asked whether you gave the sacrament of confession to Mr. So-and-so, you can simply and Christianly tell the truth AND STILL not violate the seal of confession. Instead of LYING, you can simply say "YES, I gave the sacrament of confession to Mr. So-and-so, but I am bound by my priestly vows NOT to reveal the contents of the confession-and you can defrock me, imprison me, torture me, and even kill me but I will NOT, so help me God, violate my priestly vows." Any Catholic worth his salt, not to mention a priest, is called by Our Lord Jesus Christ to not shrink away in the face of martyrdom but rather to ask Our Lord for COURAGE in order to ENDURE AND REJOICE in it. In Jesus Christ Our Lord, Dr. Rafael Andrés Escribano

@BishopBarron

5 жыл бұрын

Oh friend, come on...You know exactly what I meant. The priest acts as though the confession never happened. He never alludes to it or speaks of it. No one is advocating lying.

@RafaelAndresEscribano

4 жыл бұрын

Greetings, @@tombroughton6757 . Please explain your cryptic advice and what it has to do with my respectful, logical, and charitable comment to Bishop Barron's video. And, please, have the common courtesy of correcting your mis-spelling of my family name, which you can easily do through clicking on the "Edit" button. May Christ the King and his Holy Mother bless you. Dr. Escribano

Jesus never spoke of "Hell" ... but most of the translations of what He said spoke "Hell" for Jesus.. Even in those days.. they don't call him by the name "Jesus" no one called him in that name until I think the first English Translation of the "Bible".. Jesus spoke of "Gehenna" or "Gehenna Fire" in four occasions! 11 Times.. once by James. The word "Hell" is not in Hebrew or in the Septuagint. It is used to translate this four words which you have to study by yourself. 1. Sheol (64 Times in the Old Testament) - now a days Sheol is commonly translated Grave, Pit, The realm of the dead.. some translation actually does not have "HELL" in the old testament and some does not have "HELL" in the whole bible. 2. Hades (11 Times in the NT) 3. Gehenna (12 Times in the NT) 4. Tartarus (only once in the NT) Even the Mosaic Law and Moses, scholars agree on this that Moses did not warn the Israelite about future after-death punishments.. every punishment is only temporal and only in this world. That means.. The OLD Covenant of God does not contain Hell and Eternal Torment! One more thing! think about this... Adam, Cain, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Paul etc. never was warned and has warned anyone about this place. Though Paul quoted Hosea 13:14 in 1 Corinthians 15:55 about (Sheol OT-Hebrew) -> (Hades NT-Greek) in very glorious positive way! One last thing, this is unfair! let say we translated Sheol, Hades, Gehenna and Tartarus( Tartarus is a common word in the Greek Mythology) -> 88 times as Hell and in those 88 times most of it does not warn anyone about it.

Your video brought tears to my eyes. It is sad to think that clergy who are supposed to stand up and be counted for what is right and supporting the idea that sex offenders should not be reported because of some religious nonsense. An offense is an offense. The comments on this video are reflective of religious brainwashing.

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

No, you witnessing people standing up to your satanic overreach made you "cry." It is clear from you subbing to so many shirtless men, that you are angry the Church refuses to be the scapegoat for those like you.

I have long suspected criminally abusive clergy have been hiding by running to their brethren in "confession". The crisis in the Church isn't healed by this. How many times have phony penance resulted in continued abuse by sick priests? Fr. Barron this doesn't like you in hand with your new book :-( Those who suffer in silence are in hell on earth. Please clarify, I hope Im confused here. How can layity have true confidence in our priests when u support their right to hide?

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

It is you who is in hell on earth if the Transcendent is so unavailable to you that you have no clue what Penance actually is.

@michelledonnanwhodoesntkno5771

5 жыл бұрын

Why yes, occasionally I have been dragged thru hell on earth. The first time it involved a priest. Who or what is the Trans?

@LostArchivist

5 жыл бұрын

@@michelledonnanwhodoesntkno5771 The Transcendent would be essentially the spiritual life. Things dealing with Heaven, salvation and God etc. I am sorry they were being so heavy handed. Much more importantly however. Though I am merely a lay member of the Church. I am wholeheartedly sorry that you had to endure such a monsterous thing. It never should be, and no man who.commits such an evil act is a true shepherd, they are a wolf in shepard's clothing. I tell you this though, such a measure would not stop such predators. Especially given that many seemed to work in rings. If someone is that deranged or morally backrupt, they would very likely just not confess it. If they were truly contrite, they would likely turn themselves in anyway, or their psyche and retribution would do far more than the legal system ever could. Penence does not make up for the sin, it merely sets you down step one of the journey to recompense. I have looked at many twisted things and taken pleasure of them and I will have to live with those choices for all my days.and.must bear with the damage to my libedo possibly for my.whole life not to mention how I can never take back the fact that I did not think my future partner was good enough to wait for and so how much moreso for someone who commits so heinous an evil?

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

@@michelledonnanwhodoesntkno5771 And the second time no doubt involved you committing that same act on a child like you were. The exception proves the ruls. There is no safer place for children than in the Church, but you are just scapegoating the Church to hide your own evil.

@dermotoneill9868

5 жыл бұрын

You are so brave my friend to speak publicly I have nothing but admiration for you!

If you claim that the confession didn't happen, aren't you just lying?

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

It didn't happen once the Penance is given.

@ElChe-Ko

5 жыл бұрын

​@@JPX7NGD Fact remains the confession happened... ergo claiming the opposite is denying the truth. If we think just based on our faith rather than with reason then we are into big danger because it's we turn religion into ideology

@JPX7NGD

5 жыл бұрын

@@ElChe-Ko Truly, as Chesterton said, no evil is committed in this world without first being supported by "splendid dupes." Please, learn what the Sacrament of Penance is before you speak on it. Secondly, Faith is the highest form of thought. Without it, we have those like you who are incapable of reason.

@ElChe-Ko

5 жыл бұрын

@@JPX7NGD prove me logically this is not lying and I will agree but i see you have no arguments so until then i keep using reason... if a priest makes a confession and then denies it, what the heck are we even talking about.. this is why non believes make fun of us... and people like you whose arrogance blinds their mind are not able to counter-debate

@nancyjanzen5676

5 жыл бұрын

The confession is to Jesus the priest just stand in. Go demand Jesus relate the sins and see where it gets you.

Bishop Barren - I've always been a big fan, listener to WoF, etc. However, on this you are wrong. You do not present other side....what happens to the child that is being sexually abused? Imagine this scenario: A father comes into your confessional and every week confesses to you that he is raping his daughter. You absolve him of his sin, but he refuses to stop his behavior or turn himself into the police. You are now an accomplise in his crime. What do you say to the child who is being raped every week???? I've listened to 3 videos of your on this topic and each time, you refuse to state what happens to the sexually abused child you are turning a blind toward. Which tells me you know you are wrong......morally, ethically, and Biblically....you mention Cannon Law but not the Bible. You are wrong Bishop Barron. In fact, you are committing the sin of Clericalism and this is why people are leaving the Church, they want to save their children from priests like you.

@thecatholicbananaduck1232

4 жыл бұрын

It isn't up to Bishop Barron to change the rules of confession. Those are the rules of the Sacrament instituted by Christ, if you have a problem with it, then you have a problem with the Christ who instituted it.

Mister Magician has an Imaginary Friend who lives in the sky. His Imaginary Friend makes all the rules like creeds and dogmas to control people´s thinking. Remember that religion has always been in the control business. One man goes to another man and confesses, "I killed your sister. I shot her in the head". The other man says "As a priest I am bound by the rules of the confessional so I cannot turn you in to the police, so its just too bad about my sister. You understand I have to go by the made-up rules of my Imaginary Friend in the sky."

@teenherofilms

5 жыл бұрын

Get mental help. Youare sick

How lovely. A child abusing priest can confess to another child abusing priest and vice versa. All in secret and both priests feeling better after being forgiven of their sins by the grace of Christ. How lovely.