Wow thank you so much for preaching the gospel to a group of people that the church has mostly out casted. While not affirming sin. The balance is beautiful, and hard to find. Luckily my church has that balance. They affirm that homosexuality is sinful, and that’s exactly why the church should be a haven for same sex attracted people. Just like it’s a haven for MY deepest sin - as a straight person.

9:00 I'm not sure I agree with this. We seek God's validation, not that of man. It is important to be kind to all people, but sometimes that means doing the thing that they will not perceive as kind. If we define kindness based on the world, we may get stuck affirming unfulfilling lifestyles.

@dominicpolverino2644

Жыл бұрын

Exactly and unfortunately this is where it can lead. We must always be considerate of the people we talk to. We must never treat them as less than. Talking to people is great. We should be able to be friends who disagree with us...but we must also remember that the carnal mind isn't able to understand things because they are spiritually discerned. They are not our final authority on these things. There are people who have done awful things in the name of Jesus. This is definitely true and they will be judged for it. But we never use those examples as the template for not sharing the Gospel. I agree.

22:50- “no tax collector in Heaven got there because a Christ-follower spelled out the sins of the tax-collector-lifestyle”. Well said, Mr. Sprinkle.

@ingeniousmechanic

Жыл бұрын

How does a tax collector get into heaven? I'm not a tax collector, but I have been a bill collector, that seems pretty close. Do you know how I can get into Heaven?

@Secretname951

Жыл бұрын

@@ingeniousmechanicfollow Jesus

This guy's intentions are good (I've listened to a few of his podcasts) but he is compromising when it comes to the expounding of the truth. Yes, showing love to those who are hurting and who are confused with same sex attraction is what we as Christians are called to do. There however can be no deviation on the view of God regarding homosexuality.

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

i don't see how he is "deviating"

@viperstriker4728

7 ай бұрын

I know it sounds like he is about to try to justify tossing out the Bible the entire time but watch to the end, he doesn't deviate. The one thing that I think is worth noting is that Jesus didn't go to every tax collector. He knew the heart and went to the ones that were ready to repent. But he makes a good point that Jesus was the one to show love first. (I would describe Agape as unconditional self sacrifice. Not sacrifice of what is right or the Bible but the self.)

I continue to be challenged and encouraged by Preston and his Podcast-Theology in the raw

Thank you for bringing love and humanity to this topic. ❤️

The desire to sin is sin. If you find yourself with a desire to sin, in anyway, gay, straight or anything in between just repent and live in righteousness and if you fail repent and keep striving for perfection. A good book that helped me a ton on this issue is... "The mortification of sin" by John Owen. Should be a must read for modern western Christians everywhere.

gay attraction is much different than someone who morally feeds into his/her temptation. Jesus saves us from our temptations. Jesus saves us out of darkness and into light.

@viperstriker4728

7 ай бұрын

How is this different? I have heard of many that had same sex attraction but were saved from that temptation by Jesus? And despite what many belief this is not a trait innate to the person. But like depression or food taste it can't be changed with a single choice. I am sure you have looked at someone of the opposite sex and felt some lest that was immoral, is that not exactly what a gay person is feeling? Think about how king David killed a man over giving into the temptation of lust, yet God still saved David. I see no reason to think one sin is worse then another.

as a young gay Christian adult, i appreciate your message Preston. you hold to your beliefs without making me feel like i am lesser

This was highly convicting. Thank you.

God is overjoyed to save those who both repent and believe. You cannot have one without the other. A person who believes without a repentant heart doesn't understand the urgency of John the Baptist when he said "Repent and believe of the kingdom of heaven is at hand." as he prepared the way for Jesus. If someone is a practicing homosexual and a professing Christian is living in a life of rebellion and defiance to a holy and just God. A strong sign of a true believer in Christ is not someone who is without sin or shame, but someone is always repenting of that sin. Now this does not mean that they are unsavable as all are in equal need of forgiveness. But no matter how much you push back the Bible is clear that God condemns homosexuality or any impure person outside the forgiveness of Christ.

@kaidenlin360

Жыл бұрын

w comment

You can really tell that Preston has a Heart, a LOVING HEART for people struggling with same sex attraction!! That is refreshing since SO Many people who talk about this topic, meaning Christian Pastors, are Self Righteous and NOT Humble!!

@Chris_Sheridan

Жыл бұрын

Humility is a key quality for those who are determined to avoid an immoral lifestyle choice - remember 'the wages sin pays is death' - this is NOT an area that is negotiable with God's righteous standards. Anyone who chooses to identify with the LGBTQ lifestyle and agenda and thinks that 'Pride' marches are a valid expression of their chosen sexual preference, clearly lack humility. Being humble means accepting biblical direction on moral matters - not selfishly looking for ambiguity or excuses to continue a wrong lifestyle - which includes: liars, greedy persons, thieves, murderers and those who practise homosexual behaviour. True Christians take evasive action and reject all behaviour that displeases God. Do you think Jesus had an easy time and made selfish decisions and took the easy route in life and just pleased himself? Being a Christian means making changes > taking in knowledge > taking responsibility > exercising self-control > self-discipline > repentance > sharing the bible message that leads to forgiveness and everlasting life on a restored paradise earth. - Matthew 6:9, 10

@adamjohns78

7 ай бұрын

@@Chris_Sheridanamen! Well stated!

The Bible is clear about it and it’s also clear how we should treat Everyone

We must always ask ourselves as Christians, "Do we want to know if we are wrong"? and "Do we want God to show us our sins"? We should never support sin, period!

Preston believes that gays should be chaste and receive love from straights who will pity invite u to dinner.. I've been there and never invited back . Felt pathetic and object of fake kindness

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sorry you experienced that too. was it specifically Preston who did this or is this an experience that doesn't involve him?

I've listened to several of Preston's videos on this subject and he goes beyond love and seems to give a resounding endorsement to what God planned for humanity. I do not look down on you for your struggles and admire your willingness to be celibate. I do believe, however, there is a way out for you. We serve an almighty God. I have known practicing homosexuals who have found Christ, married and had families. I don't often quote Bill Mahr, but if 20.8% of Gen Z's are really LGBTQ, God is cruel or doesn't exist. As Mahr says, "why are most congregated in large coastal metros? There is no logic in that. I hope you find the peace you are looking for.

Bible clearly states that GOD hates LGBT sin. One main reason GOD burnt Sodom and Gomorrah was beacause of Homosexual sin.

Very interesting I have a lot to think about

Hey Preston! Where did you find the information about the reasons why homosexuals leave the church?

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

i also want to know : )

@viperstriker4728

7 ай бұрын

It sounds like anecdotes from the stories he gathered talking with homosexuals. Not sure about the stat of how many grew up in church though.

@DrewPc2000

7 ай бұрын

I actually know where he got his stats! He talks about it in one of his podcast episodes. It's from a book called Us verses US by Andrew Marin. I hope that helps! @@AcTheMace

TRUTH IS LOVE.

@davidcavallino

3 жыл бұрын

TRUTH TROUGH LOVE.

@peterchen16888

2 жыл бұрын

Love is not truth.

@Jaycob11000

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterchen16888 what do you mean by that?

Preston, of course, always present the truth with love, and yes, we are all sinners, but I would encourage you to read Romans 1:26-28 again, with an open heart and an open mind. It is more compassionate to tell someone the truth than to deceive them to spare their feelings. Only someone who hates the LGBT community would intentionally deceive them into thinking their lifestyle is approved by God, resulting in their destruction.

Misquotation. It's "love the person, not the sin." I don't have to hate a person's persona or hate their feelings or anything like that, but I absolutely can't love that what's keeping a person in estrangement to God. And if I hate my own sin for the way that it keeps me estranged from God and before He saved me it was what meant that I belonged in Hell under God's wrath, then I would have to hate the fact that others are suffering under a snare of Satan. It is sheer palatable rhetoric and doesn't truly make sense when we really think about being neutral about anyone's sin. I don't feel disgusted by homosexuality just as I don't always feel loving feelings when I minister. My love is a decision and so is my stance when I pray that a persons sin will be demolished so that they can no longer be a slave to sin.

The speaker is following the philosophy of standpoint epistemology which is a atheistic postmodern philosophy. That is why this speaker sounds so different than Christians who believe the Bible.

@mariarempel3825

2 жыл бұрын

Jesus sounded so different from the jewish teachers/Pharisees. I wonder if they also thought Jesus was following the philosophy of standpoint epistemology which was an atheistic postmodern philosophy.

@peterchen16888

2 жыл бұрын

@@mariarempel3825 standpoint epistemology was started in the Marxist feminist movement and borrowed over to the Marxist race movement. If standpoint epistemology is true Christianity cannot be true. For Jews and the founding of Christianity is from the Jewish people and it would be isolated to only that standpoint. There would be no going over to the Gentiles. Mission would be impossible. The missionary work of Paul would be impossible. The fact that the Bible is so beyond cultural constraints is a refutation of standpoint epistemology.

@GUURL101

Жыл бұрын

@@mariarempel3825 Jesus also said go and sin no more to every sinner He came across. This guy is saying something different

Some Christians hurt my feelings one time, matter of fact, several Christians have hurt my feelings several times, does that make me a better Christian? Does that get me into Heaven? Surely that will wash away my sin?

@stephhy486

Жыл бұрын

What can wash away your sin? nothing but the blood of Jesus "For God so loved (you) that he gave his only begotten son, that if (you) believe in him shall not perish but have eternal life"John 3:16 Grow in the word of God and your answers will be revealed to you God bless you

Okay, am I understanding him to say that everyone is born into sin? And that some people’s temptation is same-sex attraction? But Jesus can redeem their lives from the desires of their flesh and help them not live a lifestyle of sin? That’s every Christian’s story. If he’s implying that you can be professing bondage as your identity and also be living under the lordship of Jesus, I take issue with that.

@ingeniousmechanic

Жыл бұрын

I notice he's not very forthright in how we might escape that bondage.

@viperstriker4728

7 ай бұрын

He used Zacchaeus as an example who repented of his sin after meeting Jesus. So I think what he was saying is sometimes you have to eat with someone that is in sin to bring them out of sin. Jesus didn't have to tell Zacchaeus what sins he committed, he already knew. Homosexuals knew as well. So I think Preston is saying tell them about Jesus and the redemption from sin instead. I had a friend that is a communist, talks about full on revolution and all sorts of things I believe to be sins. We played games together and afterward would discuss politics for hours. Wasn't much we agreed on and sometimes he got pretty mad about it. Because of this and me not kicking him out of the group that plays games I got to share the gospel a few times when it came up in discussion. Unfortunately he didn't choose to repent and left the group on his own. From that experience I believe the best way is to be kind, welcoming, and speak only the truth. Those who reject it will leave on their own. But this way the choice is theirs to make. Though I draw the line at witchcraft. I would have kicked him from the group if he tried to bring that in instead of communism.

If I keep referring to the "religious elite" as the enemy, then I get into Heaven, right?

@dominicpolverino2644

Жыл бұрын

Bingo

I've seen stories where God has healed LGBT people from that lifestyle and it's truly inspiring, as Christians I think it's our duty to help lost people find God

@christopherscheiber1439

2 жыл бұрын

The description of homosexuality as a lifestyle is a blatent oversimplification of human sexuality in general and homosexuality in particular. Such indoctrination of the collective societal psyche is paramount to the self validating delusion of heterosexuality possessing moral validity. The reason that we never hear the term " heterosexual lifestyle" is because there is no need to catogorize heterosexuality with such descriptively inherent connotative oversimplification in order to subconciously justify contempt and hatred through subjective comparison.

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherscheiber1439 thank you 👏

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

I'm gay, a Christian. a virgin. i have never dated or even held someone's hand in a romantic way. is there something I've done wrong and need to repent of?

@hannanna1004

Жыл бұрын

​@@AcTheMace you have a point. im a Christian and lesbian so i understand u a bit

@AcTheMace

Жыл бұрын

@@hannanna1004 thanks

I haven’t watched this all the way through yet but I feel inclined to say that- have you ever considered that gay people will only consider you kind of you affirm their sinful behavior? Because I think there is a big misconception in this generation of being kind and loving in that communities’ eyes that corresponds with affirming and being cool with supporting their behavior…

The hypocrisy in some of these comments is overwhelming. I applaud Preston's long-needed compassion but I notice there is still this underlying meme of "hate the sin, love the sinner" plus this pervasive presumption of knowing exactly what God wants or says about people "suffering” same-sex attraction and their "unfulfilling lifestyle choices". Curious if we would be having such a discussion concerning pork eaters, slavery proponents, or divorced Christians. I wish more Christians would take the beam out of their own eye and examine more closely how a loving God could condemn a condition that has been in every culture throughout history to the present.

@ingeniousmechanic

Жыл бұрын

So, we should love the sin, too? We should encourage the sinfulness? Should we ignore what the Bible says about repentance?

@ednamode2524

Жыл бұрын

Pork eaters?

Watched it

It is always so righteous and godly when Christians claim to be more loving than God himself. These are the nice, kind, and more loving Christians who are too holy to believe and follow the Bible. They are not like the old Christians who don’t accept the ideology of standpoint epistemology and conform their thoughts to the words of God; people who actually still believes the Bible, and call sinners to repentance. How dare these less open minded, less nice Christians who actually believe the Bible, right? They are not like this educated speaker who knows better than God. He has met gay people, who is God to telll him what to believe. He has a PHD what does God have, as if God knows the world and made man or something. This guy sounds nice, and that is all that matters! He is so much better and nicer than you Christians who still believe God’s word. “How dare you!”

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

*dare

@peterchen16888

2 жыл бұрын

@@AcTheMace thanks for reading it. I did not read it clearly enough before posting.

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

@@peterchen16888 is it not editable anymore?

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

oh wait, never mind 🤦🏼

Love the Lord then love your neighbor, or love neighbor then love God? Our society is divided by the wrong order of love. The subjects having to do with LGBTTTQQIAA, CRT, social justice/socialism, communism/equity, feminism, abortion rights, etc. are all pushing against our emotional strings to love, show compassion, just “listen”/accept, you must “celebrate”. The lost world, and the lost church has been arguing is the right order is to love your neighbor is the greatest and first commandment, then you are truly loving. The way of the world is idolatry in the name of love. Jesus says love God first, then second love your neighbor. The implication is that you will be able to rightly love your neighbor only if you FIRST love God. As a follower of Jesus, I believe Jesus is right, and the entire world can be and is wrong. Matthew 22:37-40 (ESV): And he [Jesus] said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment. 39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

Why don't you ask me? A gay Christian about homosexuality and the Bible? My perspective is much more insightful coming from an actual member of the LGBTQ community who thrives in his Biblical faith.

@inYTbio_SiteLINKs2Verses_Bruv

Жыл бұрын

@@RJ-ce6si Do me a favor and have more of a Christian response to me. You think Preston is the end all with his opinion? You obviously do.

@FG-fn9fx

Жыл бұрын

I would love to hear your experience and what you understand from scripture. This topic is the hardest thing about being Christin, to me. Please feel free to pm me.

@inYTbio_SiteLINKs2Verses_Bruv

Жыл бұрын

@@FG-fn9fx Better yet, go to the "About" page of my channel and it will give you the link to all of my apologetics. If you have any questions or wanted more clarity on what I wrote, please, feel free to ask.

@inYTbio_SiteLINKs2Verses_Bruv

Жыл бұрын

I see @RJ has picked up his toys and went home.

This is a minecart ride down to the abyss.

I don’t think gay is a choice…….therefore, not a sin.

@KingsDaughter1957

2 ай бұрын

It IS a choice, and all through God's Word, it is not only called "sin" but an outright "abomination." You don't make the rules - the Creator does, and we must get our hearts and souls aligned with HIM, not the other way around, to have eternal fellowship with Him in His Kingdom. It starts with confessing your sin, but if you won't even admit that what the Bible clearly condemns IS a sin, you are deceived. Read the Bible and ask Jesus to remove the scales off your eyes - that is, if you want to Know the TRUTH.

I had to stop watching early on, because the premise given was that you were taught to hate gay people. I never heard that in my whole 56 years from a single person that claimed the name of Christ. I am NOT saying those people don't exist - I am certain they do. But what I am saying is that you claim this is the core belief of most Christians. I have never once as a follower of Jesus now for more than 30 years ever heard not only a sermon that claimed or hinted at this, but one serious follower of Jesus that I could see loves Jesus as He said by being obedient to Him every act that way let alone say it.

This gave me the courage to reignite not just one but several of my adulterous relationships! As I realized that God's prohibitions of sex outside of marriage and marriage being designed for a man and woman, must be false. Also since Jesus didn't mention homosexuality therefore the NT text (accept for Paul and who is Paul compared to Jesus), is not opposed to homosexuality, it must be the case that the concept of the Trinity is false since it too is not mentioned in the scriptures anywhere! Wait, something has gone terribly wrong here. The exegetical rules suggested here keep leading us to false interpretations. Didn't Jesus deflect the shame of culture in the pericope aduterae? Although this passage wasn't found in any of the early manuscripts it does seem to show us a few things common to other gospel pericopes where sin is involved. Namely, Jesus doesn't shame sinners but tells them the truth and also tells them to stop sinning! I didn't here anything in this message analyzing God's perspective about sexual relationships. The cultures surrounding both Mesopotamia and Eqypt practiced homosexuality. The culture around Rome and its vassal states such as Israel practiced homosexuality. Yet everywhere sex is discussed with an eye to proscribed behavior it is limited to a man and woman who are married! That people can't name chapter and verse to support that claim (on a plane), has nothing to do with whether the Bible teaches those views! Yet I'm sure many were convinced by the speakers self-righteous complaint (I don't ever want to be so sure about something I know so little about). It is a red-herring. Do we actually think that because we have forgotten the name of the formula "a squared + b squared = c squared," that it becomes untrue, or that the forgetful person should be precluded from using that formula? What a bunch of nonsense (known as a category mistake this professor fallaciously ties how one knows or justifies something as true with what is real or true about the world). But it was an effective way to virtue-signal, and divert the listener's attention from the truth of the statement that God calls all sexual relationships outside of 1 man and 1 woman whom are married, a sin. Not complex, no contextual issues, in fact twisting context on these passages and eisegeting them (reading into the text) is the only way we get a pro LGBTQ reading. He could have worked off his notes and given us the rhetorical methods that helped people understand God's perspective in a non-shaming way, which is how he starts the talk. We could have applied his methods to other marginalized groups even. But instead he ends up giving us flawed interpretive methods, that lead to flawed conclusions, not in any way representative on scripture. Not what I expected from a Biola prof.

@2wheelz3504

2 жыл бұрын

You mean this guy teaches at Biola?

@viperstriker4728

7 ай бұрын

Did you watch to the end of the video? He says homosexuality is wrong. That was his conclusion after going to it with an open mind. I know it sounds like he is about to defend homosexuality the entire time. It even sounds like he is about to throw out the Bible. But he doesn't and makes some good points if you can get pasted the speaking style. At 32:30 he says "I believe in the traditional view of marriage". I think he agrees with you.

My god this guy is exhausting

Wow! The biblical, theological, and moral wheels have come off BIOLA! Unconditional surrender to the spirit of the age. Note, this is BIOLA's CHAPEL!

@todd9016

4 жыл бұрын

This is why we ran our son away from here. Biola is still known for its solid history of real deal Christianity. Those days are quickly coming to an end.. LGBT group is now meeting on campus..

@jamesscotty1403

4 жыл бұрын

This is why suicide rates are so high among Christian teens. Thanks guys

@jamesscotty1403

4 жыл бұрын

I had a friend who was gay and tried so much. Conversation therapy, abuse and countless hours with pastors. Disowned by his parents and friends. The church told him he was going to hell. He killed himself simply because of the lack of love that we are supposed to share. Yes, these conversations are being held to save lives. Whether or not you agree with it, would you rather it just be ignored? For suicides to continue? For self harm and division of families? If so then their blood is on your hands.

@ubergenie6041

3 жыл бұрын

James Scotty The problem with you first premise has to do with the historical high treatment success rather than failure of individuals with LG ideation. Studies (before the science was thrown out and treating homosexuality was outlawed in the 1970s), showed that counseling interventions had as much as twice the efficacy as treating mild to moderate depression with counseling. So your premise about counseling seems to lack the context of the efficacy of counseling in general. Secondly, you highlight the shaming suggesting that the suicide is related. And that inference seems plausible until we look at the high suicide rate of LGBT community as opposed to heterosexual community across all ages and we still see very high rates (more than 1 in 3) who have had ideation and a plan to commit suicide, and 1 in 12 to 1 in 5 who have attempted suicide where there are less than 1 in 100 heterosexuals commit suicide. So we see in cultures where there is no stigma on homosexuality whatsoever, a greatly elevated suicide rate in these groups. While we want to encourage an approach that eschews shaming, we also find it to be unloving to let people maintain false beliefs and suffer with their delusions for a lifetime. Virtue-signaling without helping those who are hurting and deluded is what the Pharisees dos in the Bible. We don't want to be like them.

@jamesscotty1403

3 жыл бұрын

Uber Genie I mean yes, it is known that the LGBT community has much higher suicide rates. That comes with losing their friends and families over something not in their control. Are we to do nothing? Never address these issues? The issue here is that the two men that commented here purely don’t want the conversation to happen. That is the problem. When we’re scared of hearing about these other problems, we’re not helping anyone. Does Todd here know what he’s talking about when he is appalled that a LGBT group is meeting on campus?? Does he want those kids to sit alone and be depressed in silence? Has he considered that the group is for those seeking assistance with pastoral care? Or is he just ignoring something that makes him uncomfortable?

Spent the majority of the time telling his interpretation of how he thought the church is doing wrong, toward LGBTQ Community. In a time when this part of society needs a clear and bright light, this is anything but that...actually scrambled and dim. In the last days men will not endure sound doctrine. Preston mentioned repentance and tag it with this statement, "whatever that is" Deep down he knows his stance is error, he is closer to the world than to the Truth

@Daisy_3500

9 ай бұрын

👏🏻

Yes, Jesus was kind to sinners, but he never excused, condoned or overlooked their sin. He said some form of, "do not sin any more." You, on the other hand, are saying that there are practicing LGBTQ Christians, that being such is even a good thing, and that is nowhere in Scripture. Your message isn't even close to what Jesus taught. You teach at a Bible college and you should know that.

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

i don't see how Preston is arguing this view. to me, it looks like he is doing so much to reach people like me. he reaches out in love after showing me that he cares. if he started with "let's be friends but i don't believe that you being gay is okay" then why in the world would I want to be friends with him in the first place?

@2wheelz3504

2 жыл бұрын

@@AcTheMace So, to be your "friend" a person must totally agree with you, especially your lifestyle? Jesus did lead with love, but then he pointed out their sin. What Preston didn't tell you is that the vast majority of Jesus' followers left him. But still, the church thrived. Real love is ALWAYS associated with obedience in the Bible.

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

@@2wheelz3504 i see your point. i think this is where it comes down to a person-by-person thing. if you just tell an acquaintance that they are living in sin that's probably not going to draw them to Christ more. however, if you can have a friendship with someone first, then you can ask the hard questions about whether their life really matches up with what the Bible teaches.

@2wheelz3504

2 жыл бұрын

@@AcTheMace Yes, that is exactly what I meant.

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

@@2wheelz3504 Also, and I know this is somewhat of an aside, but I think it's important to not make assumptions about people. No, you totally don't have to agree with my views to be my friend. I have friends who encourage me to get a boyfriend, even though that would go against my conscience, but I'm still friends with them. And as for you agreeing with my "lifestyle" . . . well, let me ask you this. I'm a single 21-year-old virgin guy who has never dated anyone and I'm thinking about being celibate for the rest of my life if that is what God calls me to do. Is there something disagreeable to you there? I find that people so often assume that just because I like other guys that I must be sleeping around and posing a threat to "the children" when in reality, I'm just a guy trying to enjoy, life, get a good job, and follow God in reaching my community that paints me as a monster based on who I get a crush on.

Just get to the point ... never seems to. Professor Sprinkle deliverance conversation like he's changing diapers ... Bottom line Biola has an LGBT club on campus -- not very well known -- and Sprinkle says he enjoyed his time on Biola most with them. Sin shows itself in various impulses: anger, addiction, sensuality, murder, etc. This topic could be on any of those, LGBT dominates the conversation. So tired of it.

There's only men and women i don't care what anyone says...

@sr.gamesalot3477

4 жыл бұрын

@Josh Potatoes it grew back hu? Like a star fish i bet...good one...

@arthur6157

4 жыл бұрын

😉

@arthur6157

4 жыл бұрын

@Josh Potatoes Yes, but have you repented and been forgiven for your blasphemy and deception? Somehow I don't think so.

@sr.gamesalot3477

4 жыл бұрын

@Josh Potatoes wait are u being serious?? I cant tell if you're being sarcastic or not, in any case faith is a bunch of b.s i mean every religion has "faith" and they're not all right correct? And as far as Mary getting pregnant without having sex.... virgin in the context of the bible simply meant that she was a girl or woman of child birthing age who was not married, has nothing to do with sex sir.....

@arthur6157

4 жыл бұрын

I'll play along with you, Atheotroll. We don't believe sign miracles and the sign gifts continue after the close of the canon of Scripture and the death of the Apostles and those on whom they laid hands. There is no more need for signs. But what is you and your "husband's" excuse? Since you claim to believe in and have experienced the continuation of miraculous signs, why are you adopting a child rather than praying God will miraculously cause you to get pregnant and bear your "husband's" child? This seems to be a severe lack of faith on your part, O Malakoi Atheotroll. 😉

The first thing a Christian should say to someone from the LGBT community is this: I am sorry. Please forgive us for it is we who sinned against God by failing to love you and truthfully represent who God and Jesus really is. We have fallen so short at being your neighbour, friend and advocate. We have failed to be there for you in times of need and pain. We have failed to love you and care for you. We have failed to just listen to you and cherish your story and life experiences for what it is. Anyone who points to your sexuality and calls it a sin or a reason for going to Hell... is a self-righteous hypocrite, no different to the Jewish leaders Jesus highly criticised in his own day. They are not real Christians. For a real Christian knows that they themselves share the same human condition in that we are all sinners saved by God's grace alone. Real Christians should simply point you to Jesus and what him dying on the cross and rising to life again means for you and all of humanity. Real Christians will put your interests above their own need to prove themselves 'right'. Please do not let the actions of these false Christians stop you from seeking God... who earnestly longs to show you his love, kindness, faithfulness, grace and mercy. Oh that the LGBT community may find and seek God... and know the true nature of who he is. For he is more wonderful than you could ever imagine. He has never done us wrong. He has always done right by us. And in him you will find rest. In him you will find everything your heart has truly longed for. In him, you will be whole. Do not listen to the majority of Christians out there. How little they actually know God. Tim Mackie from The Bible Project does a wonderful job at helping you understand the bible on its own terms. I recommend anyone interested in knowing who God really is to start there. The bible is not a moral handbook... and the pathway to knowing who God is... is to lay aside our pre-conceived notion of who God is and who we are. We need to come humbly at the bible with the understanding that our knowledge is very limited and flawed to begin with ... we need to humbly ask God to reveal who he is to us. We need to acknowledge that we do not know everything as we are not God... then can God actually speak to our hearts and transform our dead minds into something new.

@jamconant

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for writing this. Spot on!!! Bless you x

@hannanna1004

Жыл бұрын

this is the best comment out here

When I hear these kinds of message, I have to request for a bucket, and run from the auditorium less I be injured as the Lord brings down his judgment. I can see now why the seminary does not require students to be subjected to this. Biola, you are proud of this?

@chesssean

2 жыл бұрын

There’s a plank in your eye :)

@AcTheMace

2 жыл бұрын

@@chesssean amen

@viperstriker4728

7 ай бұрын

Watch to the end, he states that after going to the Bible with an open mind he does conclude that homosexuality is wrong. I knew he sets off some red flags but he isn't tossing out the Bible like progressives do.

This guy is a wolf! Don’t believe his misleading words

@mariarempel3825

2 жыл бұрын

Many thought Jesus was a wolf as well. Preston is presenting an upside down kingdom way of thinking/loving others as Jesus did when He started hanging out with the sinners...the 'sick'. Rather than dehumanizing them he's started a conversation and Preston is likely saving many folks who identify with this community who are being led to repentance because of the kindness of God that Preston exemplifies.

@fabianmoreno3030

2 жыл бұрын

@@mariarempel3825 read your Bible more thoroughly and you will see that Jesus was no friend to sinners more than he was a friend to the religious authority. The sermon on the mount proves that. All are called to repentance, both sinners and religious elites, both must change or nothing, we in the church must change, remember he who lives the world is at enmity with God, take a look at the list of character traits that will not inherit the kingdom of God, there you will see how friendly Jesus is toward sinners. The invitation is living but the call is a call to die to selfish flesh. Jesus might have sat with a lot of people but he called them all the leave darkness and step into the light. He accepted me in my sins but He would not allow me to stay in my sins, Jesus demanded change and still does. Preston is a wolf because he uses a little bit of truth from Gods Word to support a multitude of his lies. Don’t follow a guy like that, Jesus is kind but Jesus will not play with an unrepentant person. We all Are called to flee sin or die because of it.

Keep beating around the bush... 😄

@oldman8141

3 жыл бұрын

Yep he wore me out!

God asks all LGBTQ people to prayer for forgiveness from God for the way God made them.

@ntrom828

4 жыл бұрын

Hey Tony, I was wondering how much exposure you've had to the narrative of Scripture. Scripture explains that humanity as a whole is broken not because of the way God made them but as the affects of severing their relationship with God. Had Adam and Eve trusted God and relied on Him non of the brokenness that each person carries would have taken place. God knows us as we truly are, which means He comprehends how we are confused or how our perspective isn't lining up with reality. LGBTQ people aren't in a worse place than anyone else in the world who is in bondage to sin. We have all experienced confusion about what it means to be human and to love and be loved. Part of knowing Jesus as Lord and Savior is that journey of recognizing the ways that our sinful natures have twisted the good things that God gave us as gifts.

@viperstriker4728

7 ай бұрын

God didn't make them gay. There still is no known genetic link to homosexual tendencies. Also if we look at other cultures we can see the percentage of the population varies quite a bit. Like in Iraq where homosexuality is illegal it is normal for grown men to have sex with young boys. If what your attracted to sexually is innate then it wouldn't make sense that most of their population has this attraction. This shows there is a very cultural component to it. People don't like to talk about it, but there is a large percentage of homosexuals experienced sexual trauma when they were kids. And an even larger percentage were exposed to porn per-puberty. I don't claim that any of these things are the cause of homosexuality. But I will claim that we have zero evidence that it is innate. I have know someone that was straight her entire life then suddenly decided to be a lesbian.