Pressing Concerns - Hydraulic forging press modifications

My hydraulic press doesn't get used as much as it should. Hopefully with this modification to my die setup, it will become more useful.
Dies purchased from Coal Iron Works
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00:00 - Power hammer vs Hydraulic press
02:25 - My press has issues
05:27 - Die upgrade
13:11 - Punching with the new dies
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  • @geneticdisorder1900
    @geneticdisorder19002 жыл бұрын

    Good morning to you from the east coast, nothing better to laugh first thing in the morning hearing you talk about, squishy squishy, hopefully you get more use from it other than collecting dust.

  • @geneticdisorder1900

    @geneticdisorder1900

    2 жыл бұрын

    On another note I watch another artist’s channel called Thak Ironworks, he does lots of different things if you ever have time check out his YT page. Love watching all of you forge and create different things, I just started playing in my garage trying to make a dragon out of scraps of copper tubing. If you have an email for your channel and would like to see any pics, plz let me know, it’s still going to be a few weeks before I’m done with either one. I’m trying to figure out how to get proportions and textures to look good. But both my kids loved what I have done on the first one, have a great day too you and anyone else that reads this.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    He does make some very interesting stuff

  • @isaiahsaldana-spiegle3502
    @isaiahsaldana-spiegle35022 жыл бұрын

    I just found out you’re from Colorado! Fellow native here! Happy to see that!

  • @billwoehl3051
    @billwoehl30518 ай бұрын

    Being a rookie, trying to come up with some equipment, i found that a press is a whole lot more available than a power hammer, most turn log splitters into presses by simply adding an anvil, in my case, a piece of railroad track with a 1" ×4"×5" plate welded on the end to be the anvil.

  • @stephenborders4654
    @stephenborders46542 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I hope to add a press to my shop in the future

  • @MinionsSmithy
    @MinionsSmithy2 жыл бұрын

    I have the coal Ironworks 12 ton press, and I loooove it!

  • @myownspiritlevel

    @myownspiritlevel

    Ай бұрын

    It's actually only about 9 tons.

  • @Tiger2000Lion2005
    @Tiger2000Lion20052 жыл бұрын

    Big blu presses 27 or 50T are great and very easy to make your own dies for them.

  • @wayneheitz8390
    @wayneheitz83902 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful work as always. Thank you for sharing what you do. 👏👏👏

  • @thomasbecker9676
    @thomasbecker96762 жыл бұрын

    It's interesting to see the different tools different smiths prefer to use. As an example, Kyle Royer only uses a home-built hydraulic and Torbjorn Ahman uses power hammers. Both make nice stuff.

  • @lucbrouillette5021
    @lucbrouillette50212 жыл бұрын

    I also used the Coal Iron design for holding the dies on my DIY hydraulic press. Except that I used taper ended setscrews and I also offset by 1/8 inch the tapered dimple in the die. That way when when I tighten the setscrew, it seats the die to the base. Works great!

  • @holyhammerironworks2384
    @holyhammerironworks23842 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Like the different topic on shop equipment.

  • @ewsblacksmithing
    @ewsblacksmithing2 жыл бұрын

    I'm ordering one of there 12 ton presses soon with the punch dies. Glad to see a youtube blacksmith I trust reviewing one of their products. Always love your videos

  • @SchysCraftCo.
    @SchysCraftCo.2 жыл бұрын

    Very nice video John. This weeks is very helpful and definitely useful information. Thanks so much John. Can't wait to see more videos soon my friend. Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work my friend John. Forge on. Keep making. God bless.

  • @olddawgdreaming5715
    @olddawgdreaming57152 жыл бұрын

    Great job John, figured that out really good and works great. Thanks for sharing with us. Fred.

  • @RRINTHESHOP
    @RRINTHESHOP2 жыл бұрын

    Nice mod for the press, works great. Thank you for sharing.

  • @pjamestx
    @pjamestx2 жыл бұрын

    This was really interesting, thanks for sharing!

  • @ga5743
    @ga57432 жыл бұрын

    Love watching the success of Coal Iron Works, and made in USA. Their 12 ton press has been on my wish list. Glad you got the fit-up working for your press John. Thanks for the video.

  • @MinionsSmithy

    @MinionsSmithy

    2 жыл бұрын

    I got 12 ton press a couple of months ago. Worth every penny! I luv it!

  • @tomcarlson3244
    @tomcarlson32442 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John, I have a 12 ton coal iron press and have been thinking about punch dies. I am amazed how you find new things to do with hydraulic press and how to make do what you want.

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard79602 жыл бұрын

    Nice job John, I don’t have a press but do plan on building one at some time!

  • @traildust55
    @traildust552 жыл бұрын

    As always, I enjoyed your video John. All I have to do is hook up the hoses and my press is operable. I didn't have punching in mind, but didn't exclude the idea. Again, thanks John for all your wonderful videos.

  • @lmckay8881
    @lmckay88812 жыл бұрын

    Fun and informative.. Thank you John!

  • @randygriffin4821
    @randygriffin48212 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another good video. I agree, you need to speed that press up some. However, I’d like to clear up one misconception. Horse power alone is not going to speed it up. In hydraulics flow is speed, resistance to flow is pressure and horsepower is force. You need a higher rpm motor for more speed. More horsepower and rpm’s would be best.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Correct, but to achieve higher RPMs requires a 5hp full speed motor to replace the 2 HP slow speed motor currently being used.

  • @randygriffin4821

    @randygriffin4821

    2 жыл бұрын

    I figured you knew what you were doing. I just didn’t want folks out there in video land to think they could get more speed from higher HP.

  • @5Perf65mm
    @5Perf65mm2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video

  • @johnearhart8811
    @johnearhart88112 жыл бұрын

    Excellent info

  • @thomasnewton9818
    @thomasnewton98182 жыл бұрын

    When you build a machine from scratch it's really hard to take into consideration all the factors. It looks like a nice piece of fabricobbled equipment. Thanks for the great information and videos.

  • @markmoreno7295
    @markmoreno72952 жыл бұрын

    Good Sunday morning! Very interesting content. Wish I had the space for a press.

  • @Bangalangs
    @Bangalangs2 жыл бұрын

    Another great video.

  • @robertwhitney2232
    @robertwhitney22322 жыл бұрын

    Hi John, nice informative video. Couldn't miss the post drill, nice touch. I just picked up a Canedy Otto post drill, 2 speed spindle, 3 different feed rates, also has a bracket to hold the drills and oil can. Very rare to find one with the accessory bracket. No breaks, or welds, and has the original plank it's mounted on. Sadly no tooling or oil can. 👍🔥⚒

  • @larryking606
    @larryking6062 жыл бұрын

    Good Morning , John I can understand why you keep the press around , years ago when I first got my press , I thought that I was moving up to the fast lane, but maybe it's not real fast it does a good job of the things it does ! Great Video ! Thank you for sharing ! Take Care and Be Safe

  • @jmk527
    @jmk5272 жыл бұрын

    Thank you, Sir

  • @michaelbarnett4016
    @michaelbarnett40162 жыл бұрын

    I really like your videos. I don’t forge or work with metal but your videos are just done really well and you do a good job making it interesting

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @ChristCenteredIronworks
    @ChristCenteredIronworks2 жыл бұрын

    Great video John 👍

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks 👍

  • @jamesbarisitz4794
    @jamesbarisitz47942 жыл бұрын

    This will be interesting what other processes can be sped up. I'm sure you'll think up another die to tryout. 👍

  • @Zonkotron
    @Zonkotron2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video, a friend of mine has a bunch of scrap currently with two large hydraulic pumps and one ginormous hydraulic cylinder. Something like 8 inches. Scary. I was doubting it would make a good forging press in terms of being way too slow even on a large pump and also dangerous because i don't think i can make a frame safe at some sort of utterly crazy tonnage that needs more square inches of steel to resist than what can comfortably be welded with a normal size stick machine. Probably gonna take one of the pumps and get a more resonable cylinder from...somehwere. Unless those pumps are fairly low pressure and high flow but i do not think so because the original application was likely slow (sausage press which does not use a screw extruder and instead has a giant armored bin with a 20 inch piston under the meat, weird weird weird piece of gear)

  • @Zonkotron

    @Zonkotron

    2 жыл бұрын

    And actually i am now reconsidering using that cylinder. Its there, its free and i have two pumps which both turn out to be single stage and 5hp each and after subtracting the od, the cylinder seems to be more like 6 inches ID. Now i just need to figure out the flow rate of the pumps. Maybe they DID enable high travel speed for cleaning and such and since they are both single stage and were simply connected in parallel, it seems likely that it might all just about work out fine because that is a lot of power on a cylinder smaller than what it looked like when hidden between lots of lines, pumps and junk in the belly of a dark and dirty machine.

  • @jmk527
    @jmk5272 жыл бұрын

    Good forge

  • @larryjones4713
    @larryjones47132 жыл бұрын

    Good Morning ,John

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Morning!

  • @Anderson-HandForged
    @Anderson-HandForged2 жыл бұрын

    great video sir im in the process of building my press may i ask what are your die sizes ? i want to make mine so they can work with the coa l iron works dies thanks your videos are great Mark 👍👍

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    My old base plates were 4" X 6" The new die holders are set up for 3" X 6". Since the old system had a frame around the plate to hold it in place and the new one doesn't, the new system will actually allow for larger dies.

  • @Anderson-HandForged

    @Anderson-HandForged

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BlackBearForge thank you for replying will help me alot Mark 👍👍

  • @craigmcmullen231
    @craigmcmullen2312 жыл бұрын

    I’m a knife maker. But in view I guess a lot of your videos and some other blacksmith videos, I believe I’m going to expand more into your realm. So I have one question. In your opinion which metal type of the medium steels is easiest to move hand forging?

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    if you're looking for medium carbon steel to forge by hand, I would try 1045. But for most non tool projects, mild steel is more than adequate.

  • @craigmcmullen231

    @craigmcmullen231

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BlackBearForge thanks for the reply. I only asked about medium carbon steels because, the one thing I lack since I only make knives is, tooling. I’m going to have to make my own. Chisels, punches, splitters, ect. Also I’d like to try and make a few hammers. Last night I watched your Shepards Axe video. Very cool. I know a good friend of mine, (he and I have a camp together), who would absolutely love it. It may be a future project as my skills evolve. Thanks for the reply and all the great content. With KZread you can reach thousands or millions of people. I believe you’re more of a mentor and teacher, than you realize. Or maybe you do realize.

  • @user-rr1xx1lw1f
    @user-rr1xx1lw1f2 жыл бұрын

    Здравствуйте.Какое усилие развивает Ваш пресс?

  • @bobhastings7119
    @bobhastings71192 жыл бұрын

    Greetings What brand of gas forge do you use? I’m needing something bigger than what I got. Thanks in advance

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    I use a Chili Forge. I have been very happy with their products

  • @BadgerRobot
    @BadgerRobot2 жыл бұрын

    Ok, when do we get to see Janet in the shop....

  • @goshnodo
    @goshnodo2 жыл бұрын

    I'll buy your press.

  • @thebogamin
    @thebogamin2 жыл бұрын

    which plans did you build your press to? i've been looking for a reliable set for quite some time

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's not built to any specific plans but is based on the plans from James Batson's book Build Your Own Hydraulic Forging Press

  • @thebogamin

    @thebogamin

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BlackBearForge i will certainly have to look into it! thanks!

  • @Kristoferskogsberg
    @Kristoferskogsberg2 жыл бұрын

    Hello sir! I wonder if you have any plans to make a hacksaw frame? I would love to see that, it's not many videos about that on KZread.

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    I hope to at some point

  • @louispassmore4740
    @louispassmore47402 жыл бұрын

    I have a question with Forge welding cable I got the cable forge welded together but whenever I tried to take the cable billets and put them together I cannot get them to forge weld not sure what I am doing wrong

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    There are so many variables that all have to come together that I can't say for sure. But in most cases its either not hot enough or has something contaminating the weld.

  • @louispassmore4740

    @louispassmore4740

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@BlackBearForge thank you John I will go back and re-clean it and try again hope you and your family have a great day

  • @tomtutor3858
    @tomtutor38582 жыл бұрын

    Do you make custom order hammers? If so how would I go about contacting you for an order?

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry, I am not doing any work to order these days

  • @John-uc9kq
    @John-uc9kq2 жыл бұрын

    "Squishy, squishy..."

  • @deryiousbarzee627
    @deryiousbarzee6272 жыл бұрын

    Good morning

  • @BlackBearForge

    @BlackBearForge

    2 жыл бұрын

    Morning

  • @richg.8092
    @richg.80922 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍👍☕☕🍩🍩

  • @kenbultman8670
    @kenbultman86702 жыл бұрын

    Sell it to me