Here's my interpretation of MeMe cameras - this is a hint to Mikoto's DID. Not sure how to explain it, but basically I imagine a scene where Mikoto sees footage of "himself" doing something he has no recollection of: because it's not him, it's his alter. The cameras look like security cameras - something like definitive proof that Mikoto did something, except he actually didn't. We're being tricked into thinking the goofball is guilty because "look, we can see him do it on camera!" I played a little too much ace attorney lol

@Eskun8998

5 ай бұрын

THIS IS REAL

@LanieMae

5 ай бұрын

I mean that wouldn’t make sense, as he doesn’t remember

@fireworksforme2

5 ай бұрын

I also play too much ace attorney glad to see it ain’t just me 😭

Ngl, it's not quite obvious, but the call scenes in Double have a lot more implications than we realize. The call at the start is from someone called チーフ or Chief, and when Mikoto later calls his mom, he tells her he's alright when he's clearly not. Some comment in the MV mentioned it, but it's likely Mikoto was working for an exploitative or BLACK company, leading to his laughing mechanisms and his high stress. Smoking and his will to fit in is also common in those black companies, so that he won't stand out, and BE TARGETED BY HIS SUPERIORS. With that in mind, it's likely that Mikoto (alter or otherwise) killed his abusive work superiors to cope with the stress. However, Mikoto himself doesn't acknowledge how stressful his workplace was BECAUSE HE GOT NUMB TO THE STRESS, which is why we hardly see the presence of his workplace in his MVs. After all, MILGRAM shows the *prisoner's perspective,* not objective reality.

As someone who actually hasn’t watched the MV yet and has had less time for Milgram, I’m really excited to watch your theories!!! ITS MIKOTO TIMEEEE

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

THANK YOU🥹🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶🫶

about twenty whole minutes of Mikoto analysis is like heaven in disguise.. someone with DID, I feel like Mikoto's case was handled really well.. both here and by his maker.. you even looked deeper into both his name, and hints in the drama.. i hadn't expected that much from a simple analysis, which usually only cover the mv's.. I'm happy. I can't say the same for other media outlets when discussing Mikoto.. so this was refreshing. to add, I also like the trikoto theory.. even as "John" (Orekoto) is the only one that seems 'confirmed' with es, the gatekeeper is also a really big part in my mind, who asides from John, acts as a bigger protector in a more mental way, as opposed to John, where I believe he fronts to take a more physical approach; such as when the gatekeeper had only allowed John to appear for the theorized murder, rather than switch with Mikoto himself... rgb is a favorite theory of mine. this was the best analysis of his entire public trial, you included so much detail that would otherwise go unnoticed.. so I would love to see a color analysis by you as well. this was fun.. and I hope Mikoto stays innocent, and gets his good ending... or new, healthy beginning, away from work and stress. 🙂💙

I find the Trikoto theory interesting because it is mainly based in subtle but recurring imagery through all his MVs. It is a theory in a weird point where without being mentioned even once in the voicedramas it still has enough "clues" (I love how the recurring thing with the number 3 and the RGB thing are given a meaning with this theory ) to keep relevant. It is a theory that although not believing I enjoy a lot, there are a lot of great analysis surrounding it.

I do think it's more likely that Mikoto is considered an indirect murderer do to his bad handling of stress. In the past (and still now) he's been shown to lie to others (his mother or Es) about how stressed out he is. He keeps it inside and keeps on overworking himself. It's as a result of that why John was birthed, or at the very least "exploded" and attacked people to destress. Essentially, it's Mikoto choosing to handle his stress so unhealthily that lead to John doing what he did.

@Eskun8998

5 ай бұрын

This is so real

@Spectral_Labrys

4 ай бұрын

Mikoto would be seen as an indirect killer simply by having DID. There's a thing called "system responsibility" where whoever is currently out has to take the blame for something another alter did, because it would be unfair to the person who was wronged for a system to try to escape blame by saying "it wasn't me, it was X". Mikoto is a slightly different case since I don't think he knows about his DID, but it was his body, so he will still get blamed. Though I do hate that they made Deviele (John's actual name as revealed in Double) a murderer, it's bad representation of DID, and just perpetuates the fear the media has made against systems

TRIAGE HIT 1M!!!!! EVERYONE CHEERED!!!!!!!!!

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

WE DID IT!!!! THE TRIAGE SLANDER IS OVERRRRR

11:25 My dad does card readings and he told me that the wheel of fortune card could also mean that you’re setting things in Motion. If the card is upside down then it could mean the opposite (things are standing still)

I really hope the trikoto theory is real bc i rly hate the "haha big bad alter who murders" trope... My very ideal third trial would be greenkoto taking over and saying how bluekoto actually WAS the murderer and that greenkoto just birthed redkoto out of the memories to protect bluekoto, which would explain why redkoto's memories are blurry because he doesn't really understand the motive behind why bluekoto lashed out, only that it happened. It would also explain why bluekoto is treated as the prisoner instead of the lazy "oh akshually Milgram probably didn't accommodate for people with alters". I think if Milgram can separate bluekoto and redkoto, they definitely knew who the real prisoner was. This is also a really self-indulgent idea but I want greenkoto to be the original alter before bluekoto started fronting more, and that greenkoto created bluekoto so he can live a life being happy separate from their traumatic experiences. This would make it really humanizing because we, as the audience, would have been introduced to the "good, original personality" before it being revealed that bluekoto was not the original and was created as well. It would be really nice for us to have gotten to know an alter properly to humanize that alters are just regular people.

My personal theory as to why Mikoto is the prisoner is because he is intentionally stressing himself out and making John front. In Double, John sings: “Keeping things at bay, you’re doing your best. ‘No I need to do more…’ say what? You’re going to break. Me, the newborn other you, I’ll take it all on.” and also “You’re overdoing it. You’re already broken. But if you persist, I guess it’s my job to keep things on an even keel.” He recently answered his second question which revealed he has no intention of quitting his job even though he knows it’s too much for him. If anything, he intends to keep working hard because he wants to make it in a big company. Even though his boss is demanding of him, Mikoto is still partially responsible for his stress, so that’s why I think Milgram considers him responsible for those people’s deaths.

Kotokos MV with the chess pieces had Mikotos be an abstracted one with three layers... so... just mentionin

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

YESS OMG MIDOKOTO MENTION

One theroy i saw about john attacking the mannequins but there being a white background was basically that hes metaphorically in mikotos view, johns background is black, he works in the shadows where mikoto wont see him, but now hes in the light, where mikoto is starting to notice him, and what he did, hope that made sense

I have three possible theories (sorry for being late) Please note that in Undercover, his murder in confirmed to be with a baseball bat, so I really think he bashed someone with one. - Mikoto had severe intrusive thoughts and gave in to them, killing someone and dissociating about it, forming John. - Mikoto was practicing his swing (he does when he is stressed according to T1 interrogations) and accidentally hit someone, killing them and dissociating about it, forming John. - John killed, but he was unable to be restrained since he wasn't fully formed at that time and Milgram couldn't restrain a fragmented(incomplete) alter.

Idk if anyone has said anything yet, but I'd like to correct one thing that was said that's wrong, D.I.D can only develop in childhood, specifically before the ages of 6-9, it cannot be developed in adulthood, it can be discovered in adulthood though, so that might be where some of the confusion comes from

@kowore6761

4 ай бұрын

Yep, was just going thru the comments to see if anyone has pointed this out! Even more evidence for the 3+ theory, especially if John is right about being just recently born. Another theory I had initially was that John was potentially formed not as a protector, but a prosecutor- acting out memories of abuse experienced, potentially at the hands of Mikoto's dad. Not the best wording there, but it conveys the point well enough

@user-su6oy9yo3g

4 ай бұрын

​@@kowore6761💀💀💀

Law is difficult when it comes to someone with DID, but in the end all the alters have to be treated as one person no matter how different they are from each other. Yes Mikoto is innocent, but since John committed the murders and used his body, they’re technically all guilty in the eyes of the law. It’s one of those cases where illness doesn’t really matter, there’s no way to actually separate the two so they have to be treated as one

7:04 i can't believe people are actually happy about that😭😭😭like no nuance of mikoto's character at all

Personally I highly doubt that John is the killer. A lot of stuff implied to me that he’s trying to take the blame for Mikoto. The way he talks about killing a bunch of random people in what is very obviously a lie as he’s trying to portray himself as the bad guy and act like Mikoto had nothing to do with it. And especially in Double he says “all take it all on” or “I’ll shoulder it all” which could definitely imply this. There’s also a scene at the end in the train where he swings his bat at nothing, and a bunch of mannequin parts fly outside the train. This makes it look like here from first impression that he caused it, but it’s completely different. It’s a visual representation of him trying to take the blame. I think it’s very important on the difference between the mannequins inside the train and outside the train in double. There’s also how in the very end of MeMe, Mikoto picks up and reveals the death card himself. And then John grabs the camera and punches it, possibly implying Mikoto’s loss of memories. I really do think that Mikoto did it but there’s a possibility that John could’ve been an assistant as he was the one who handed the card to Mikoto in the first place.

@thiefpotato2759

5 ай бұрын

Mikoto is the first person to kill, but idk if he's the killer past that. I think what John means when he says "shouldering it all" is protecting Mikoto from having another mental breakdown. I also have a theory that John just kills people who causes Mikoto to have mental breakdowns.

@LanieMae

5 ай бұрын

@@thiefpotato2759 eh, something like that would be too obvious and not nearly as morally complex as the series is. And even in the first voice drama it’s interesting to note how despite John attacking Es they weren’t all that badly injured which makes me think he was purposely holding back and has more bark than bite per se, and he hasn’t attacked anyone else in prison

I want to talk about Mikoto’s motive for a bit as you bought up the possible stalker and gang theory (yes I’m commenting a lot on this video it’s just I have a lot to say about Mikoto’s story ok) Right before the release of double I made a big analysis on the Mikoto stalker theory on tumblr and I still think it hold up pretty well. I proposed that it’s very interesting how there’s a lot of sexual imagery in double directly objectifying him. There’s two ways I could put this but in the end they’re quite similar and could work together. I mentioned how this objectification could be another representation of the stalking, a long with all the camera imagery we see. And there could be a possibility that Mikoto killed multiple people in an attempt to find the perpetrator, hence the attacking the gang member. There’s also how in Mikoto’s mindscape, there’s a lot of bathroom imagery. The mirror that’s on the wall is exactly the same as in the bathroom and the tiles are the same as well. There’s also how the place is filled with a thin layer of water and I suggested that the fact that the walls are broken down revealing the sky could represent him never feeling safe in privacy. Another interpretation is that this could be a result of underlying trauma. We know that Mikoto definitely has trauma because of his did. And him (or maybe John, because it appears to be him in those scenes) objectifying himself in such a way could be a result of childhood trauma. As if I remember correctly that can be a symptom of that sort of abuse. I was thinking if we put these two interpretations together, that could definitely give Mikoto a clear motive on why he’d do it. As the more I think about it what John said happened and his supposed motive, even going with stuff like “he killed to protect mikoto” makes less and less sense.

the pink could be a light shade of purple, a mix of red and blue. perhaps this is showing co-fronting or co-consciousness? or the possible merging you mentioned?

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

That might be possible!!

( 9:40 ) The hanged man on Mikotos shirt is about relflecting a situation or action, seeing it from a new perspective and take a step back or a pause. It's stands for patience, surrender and basically to "let go" to give room for change or improvment. That's just a short summery tho, Havent read much about Tarot cards for a few years now

In that scene where he's killing someone and the eyeshine is down BUT the background is also white. I've heard that alters can front at the same time so maybe both John and Mikoto were fronting during the murder?

@baguette87

Ай бұрын

yea like what if mikoto was trying to stop john?

The part from 11:50 can't really be translate because most of the words are mess up and don't make any sense. It's basically garbled characters (reflecting Trikoto's mental condition?) Only few words make sense: (The train is) towards...[garbled] Next station is ... [garbled] North ticket gate (later in the MV we can also see there is a South ticket gate) This side of door (will be opening) As you can see, all the garbled characters are supposed to be station name. But dud to the garbled we don't know where the train really are

there are some good tarot card explanations in the "meme" music video comment section! I would def recommend to check them out, they really helped me realize the situation they were in better before "double", and mostly their characteristics too.

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

OH I really should have read them!!😭😭 Thanks for telling me!

The tarot card on Mikotos shirt in MeMe is most likely the hanged man, which is the symbol of ultimate surrender/sacrifice/being suspended in time. Which I think all fit Mikoto. Hes a pushover and lets people treat him like a workhorse to such an extent that he has a mental breakdown and causes him to kill someone. He is very much someone who sacrifices and surrenders to other people wills. It also fits the theme of MeMe where Mikoto is suspended in time whenever he is not fronting. Where he loses tracks of time because John takes over.

Honestly I really doubt the trikoto theory. Most of the evidence to me seems just like a bunch of random coincidences, and like I mean it actually feels like it’s grasping straws. I don’t think something like a couch and a chair prove that there’s three of them. And especially in trial 2 where when the 3rd one everyone assumed to be the stoic protector turned out to be John, or orekoto as we once knew him. And it definitely seems that that’s him in the scene in MeMe when he’s looking at the tv as you can see the fool card, which is represented with him in the background. At this point there’s way too much to disprove this theory that I feel like basing and major theory in it now is just going to lead nowhere, and deco 27 straight up confirms there being two as when talking about double he says “what will happen to the two Mikotos after this?”

After watching this I was suddenly reminded of the tarot cards in the MeMe MV and realizing that the meanings of the celtic cross spread line up very well with what we know about Mikoto/John's story so far

Oh also to add onto the Trikoto theory (I actually didn’t know people theorized this until now) but when I was watching the new Kotoko MV, people have been saying the pawns represent the characters, and Mikoto’s pawn has three brick thingys idk what to call them you’d have to look at it, but I immediately like said out loud “wait wait there’s three” but uh yeah take that information how you will but I don’t think they would put three of them in his pawn for no reason

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I feel like they confirmed Trikoto😭😭🫶

I thought the Trikoto theory was doomed and I'm so happy to see it's still living strong! This helped so much and there was so much I didn't notice yet like the light in the eyes and colour associations (:

I always thought the laughing during the phone call scene was Mikoto's little sister.

this video just broke me i never really look into characters much but this just agghh i cant describe it anyways, mikoto innocent!!

FINALLY MIKOTO TIME!! edit: also at 14:00 i see a bit of white so its probably mikoto

I can wait to finally watch Kotoko's MV even if I am almost sure about how I am going to vote her. I need to see the results of all this voting. If Haruka really dies it will be a hard blow but if that means we won't get I third song I will get quite sad. I love "Weakness" and "All-knowing and All-Agony" a lot.

@darkjelly944

5 ай бұрын

As sad as it would be, it would be a pretty balls-y move on the writer's part. I've constantly heard verdict arguments hinge on the presumption that "the writers are ACTUALLY going to kill anyone. They have merch. Why would they kill a character who has merch?", so for a prisoner to actually die because they voted on the assumption tthe prisoners wouldn't die would be both a hilarious and a powerful move on the part of the writers. To actually make good on the character's threats to kill themselves/each other, MILGRAM really isn't pulling any punches.

@genericyoutubecommentchann7418

5 ай бұрын

@@darkjelly944For me, Haruka doing it makes way too much sense for them not to go with it. It would perfectly mirror the real Milgram experiment, as the whole point of that was to see if the participants would continue asking the questions even though they “killed” the questionee. And the writers were clearly baiting us into voting Mu guilty, so I think they wanted this to happen.

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

It's really scary😭

i’m worried about the trikoto theory mainly because media hasn’t done a very good job with DID, so the writers might not be aware of gatekeepers and protectors, just thinking about one alter (also with the MV being called Double) The tarrot cards are also super confusing idrk what to do 😭 Even though I haven’t seen too much of the gang theory, It would make sense since it feels odd that to take away stress, you would kill some random bystander idk 💀 I super agree with the theory that Mikoto was a witness, cause people like Mahiru and Kazui are here 😎 ANYWAY thanks for the banger video slayyy (also roast and toast me alive if I used incorrect terms for DID so I don’t accidentally do it again 😎)

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

SLAYY

1. There are two alters, John and mikoto 2. Mikoto did the crime, John cleaned it up 3. A divorce and work stress is not enough to develop DID, like I know people will say that in some cases it can be really bad but no like it cannot form a DID system Most likely Mikoto realized someone was watching him, not just with the constant camera imagery but his music video’s angles are significantly different from the others Mikoto has the only music video where there are objects in the way of our view of him, as if it were a different perspective a different person watching him such as when he’s taking off his shirt the table vase and things on it were blocking our view or with the shower door If mikoto cannot clearly have access to the other alter memory, neither can John John being formed, most likely set up camera to exihibit mikoto and understand who he was That’s how he was able to have so much information from him Mikoto probably found cameras or clues someone was watching and assumed it was the former gang members but it was John the entire time lol, with the crime itself I can explain how this works but it would have to be a different comment

@dadsfatherdads

3 ай бұрын

Like rewatch the first trial videos or any of them like mahiru, yuno,Amane, muu whatever it’s all presented from their point of view which is why we have a clear view of them with nothing covering Except for mikoto because we see shots that look like he wasn’t even aware was being taken

How does this video already have like 7likes but 3 views (??) Who or what are you guys💀

@Mika-np8ff

5 ай бұрын

Magic 🪄

@Eskun8998

5 ай бұрын

@@Mika-np8ffKami-sama

@iciarsoto8860

5 ай бұрын

Are you planning to make a video after the results caused by the veredict of the trials are showed? I would enjoy hearing your opinions on how to vote and your general guessing for the third trial.

I got into milgram like, two days ago, and I am surprised that I actually discovered it at the right moment, since this video was apparently released 7 hours ago I watched 3 of your analysis so far and I love how you break down everything we know about the characters, because I did NOT notice all of that 😭

I've been thinking about something that i haven't seen anyone talk about so far.. We see john (or possibly mikoto) killing people both inside and outside of the train (by this i mean the broken mannequin pieces being on the outside of the train), so i was wondering if they should be differentiated from one another?? I was thinking about the possibility that when the mannequin pieces are outside of the moving train, it could possibly mean that the one who was seen on screen at the time wasn't the one who actually committed the murder? So for example when the background was black with john present and the mannequin pieces were outside of the train, i personally think that it could mean that mikoto was the one that committed the murder, but john is trying to take the blame even when he wasn't at fault? This theory mostly only makes sense if we look at the train as some sort of headspace, because then it would be logical that the alter that was currently in the headspace at the time wasn't the one responsible for the murder, since the mannequin pieces were outside of the moving train!! I might be reaching with this one but i think its a cool theory to consider! (Apologies for the horribly long rant idk how to keep stuff simple when it comes to milgram theories haha)

I do think the reason for mikoto being the prisoner for being a witness or assisting in a way does seem to fit. Because at least a good amount of the prisoners didnt just kill. In Mahirus case it was indirectly, Kazui's murder seemed to be unintentional and an accident, Kotoko clearly killed people but her victims all seemed to be bad people, Amane killed her abuser and you'd argue they deserved it... This is exactly why the trials are happening. Will we forgive Kotoko because she had good intentions, or give her a guilty verdict for killing people? Will we forgive the others for their circumstances? Thus also is the question if Mikoto is guilty for mishandling his stress and letting things get out of hand. Whether or not he is fully to blame for John's actions. Clearly there must have been some involvement on the host's part even if its something like Mahiru's situation

It would be really really interesting to see someone make an analysis of the Tarot cards. I only know the roughest of basics, since a childhood friend of mine was interested in them. But the cards i saw reappear most were the fool, the devil, death, the hanged man, and various numbers of wheels. If we say Mikoto is the actual murderer, that would make absolute sense, since the card in his hands turns into the Devil. But he rejects it, he doesn't want to be found the Devil, he wants to be innocent and pitiable and normal. He is scared of being the Devil. The print on his tshirt reminds me of the hanged man, fitting his job situation and dooming him, or rather all of them. It's interesting that it is reversed though. His wallpaper too. John on the other hand tries to convince us that Mikoto is the Fool, as in the voice drama. He literally hands the viewer/warden the death card, threatening us in case we do not agree with Mikoto being the fool. If its three of them, I like all of them so far. People with DID have it incredibly hard - imagine going to school and not remembering what you learnt, having to follow a rigid system and suddenly not remembering what you had to do. Our system is so ill suited for taking care of the diversity in individuals. I seriously don't remember what the Wheels were, they were like numbered together with some other cards? I know that the placement of cards, whether they face up or down, and which reading style you use can have a huge effect. For instance, you can draw a single card, or three cards for the past present and future, or put out specific patterns where the location of which card also means something. Does anyone know more about it? I'd love a rundown.

Yay new video!! Sadly I didn't have much time to really look into Mikoto second trial content due to work and all so no theories today. I'll just try to answer the moving direction question: I think it's just to symbolize how Mikoto thinks life likes to change directions in his life, creating a mess that is stopping him to reach his destination, "home", or rather happiness, relaxation and freedom in his life. That's all. Love your vids❤

At 13:53 Couldn't this be Trikoto attending the scene? And more generally, wouldn't Trikoto be the stalker?

10:08 you should do it!! that'd be cool to see

I really wanted to tell you that I really apreciate your videos and the obvious effort you put on it. I hope the channel gets bigger.

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

Thank you! :DDDD

I think my other comment disappeared?!?? But I actually haven’t yet watched the Double MV yet, and I don’t have as much time for Milgram, so I’m v excited for your analysis video!!!!!!!!! Don’t worry about how long it took to make it, take your time :]] I’m glad it’s here!! ITS MIKOTO TIMEEEE

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

MIKOTOMIKTOMITKTOOTOT

You dont know how much I love your analysis and theories , I was waiting sm for Mikoto's one SRSLY YOU DO REALLY GOOD ANALYSIS DAWG THIS NEEDS MORE SUPPORT(?)!!!!11!

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

THANK YOU🥹🫶🫶🫶🫶

About the translation(11:50) it's mostly train stuff with the exception being '7 exhaustion' (but can be a translation error and acctualy be '7 station', so thinking in that I took another frame in the MV and it was saying "Zhengji", I took it to google maps and it was saying that it's a chinese Takeaway on Milan When I put this on the google translate it was saying "Z is grateful"(when i put to translate in chinese)/"Breast-feeding"(in detect languange)

Either i’m stupid or there’s a mistake at around 10:30 When Napkin said that at the end John apologizes the lighting is at the top but before it was said that Mikoto had the lighting on top and John’s at the bottom

@justanaverageperson2162

5 ай бұрын

It could be greenkoto?

@ForgettablePerson

5 ай бұрын

@@justanaverageperson2162 maybe, but also maybe greentoko is just show at the scenes with green stuff

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

True its kind of weird!! I'm really sure it's John since Mikoto and John kept on switching when singing at the end But yeah the light...

Estaba esperando esto de tí! No quería otro análisis sí no era tuyo, los tuyos son increíbles e incluso me ayudan a entender mejores cosas, otras posibles teorías que no pude haber hecho bien sola etc. incluso me ayudan a practicar inglés JAJAJ

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

I'm happy to help you!!🥹 And thank you so much for enjoying my theories🫶🫶🫶

Imagine if instead of just putting the light on his eyes on the top when John says "I'm sorry" they put one on the top and one on the bottom to mirror that both Mikoto and John were apologizing to each other- (I'm not apologizing for this btw))

I’d like to think that Mikoto was only considered the murderer bc at the time no one had known that he had some sort of DID and it was his body ( since he’s the ‘original’ person to inhabit the body) that had committed the crime. Unless he was somewhat conscious during his first attack and had that become a repressed memory of sorts then I also don’t think that he has any genuine knowledge of the events of the killings. My reasoning being that he genuinely thought it was some sort of TV show or that he was brought to MILGRAM by mistake, and he seems to be rather honest (Mikoto, but also John now that I think of it, they’re both rather blunt in a way.) It’s also possible that Midoto/The gatekeeper was fronting during the attacks causing neither John, nor Mikoto to know certain details. I think that the white backlighting isn’t actually symbolic of Mikoto but rather the gatekeeper or the two of them (Mikoto and John) fronting/switching.

I'm really for the Mikoto witness part of this. I believe he initiated the attack, making him viable for MILGRAM. John finished the job. I think the white background at 13:13 is Mikoto witnessing the inital murder event after he physically started it due to co-fronting. Multiple alters can be "in front" at once. This is most likely the first time this has happened to Mikoto, due to that event being (imo) Johns "birth." Either Greenkoto handled Mikoto's memories of this event or Mikoto represses it or didn't think it was actually real. That's why I think there are signs for both alters being in front in this scene. John has more signs, being he is in control of the body. Mikoto is still there, seeing everything, but not fully in control. Co-fronting is different for every system and i'm only using my limited knowledge as a singlet for this theory. Thats what i think :3

@ponkieredrmy

4 ай бұрын

EDIT: for the bat being in the left hand, i think john switched the bat into his better hand to finish the murders. I'm not sure why they dont show this, other than Mikoto repressing memories and/or his memories being controlled by the gatekeeper, and John's first time fronting being blurry. When an alter first forms, it can sometimes take some time to understand themselves and create their own identity. A term used for some new alters who dont have enough memories or jobs in the system to have a separate identity call themselves or their memories "blurry." I believe John sees that first murder an incredibly blurry memory. As for Mikoto and his alters' character arc ending with them becoming one person, this is a possibility. In therapy a possible goal for a a system is "final fusion". it is pretty much what it sounds like. All alters fuse into one alter. This is however, not the only end goal for a system. Many systems wish to learn to work and thrive together rather than fuse. I think for Mikoto and his alters, both is possible. I would prefer Mikoto, John, and Greenkoto learning about each other and learning how to accept each other and help one another with their stressful life.

11:55 Also I low key relate. I started getting my first white hairs with 22, I am 27 now and got a nice stress induced white sheen 👍 And I am lucky to not work at a terror company in Japanese expectation heavy society where people literally die of overworking. I feel my man Mikoto

I think the pink might represent cofronting of two alters. So both blue and red are at the front. Maybe red is still in control and blue is just watching not sure. But it would mean green may have done the first kill / harm and red was born to take the blame and is more aggressive (hence the color gradient from green to red at the start). And in MeMe the color tone of the killing was green. And red was splashed into the screen I think to indicate redkoto was born when bluekoto witnessed part of greenkotos actions and couldn’t handle it. (you see bluekoto being shocked in the mirror and then thrown back into the blue sky space and panicking). Amnesia barriers are formed when alters are created, so that might’ve been what the blackening of the card meant. Also I think the blue sky space in MeMe might represent the inner world of the system. I’ve heard that systems often have an inner world where alters reside when not fronting.

Your theories are CRAZY. I wish i was that smart fr

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

thankyouu😭🫶

@mikogram

3 ай бұрын

NO WAY KIRBO

At the very end of Double, when the camera zooms to his face, we see that the light in his eyes are at the top. However, you say that it's John who is fronting, despite the claim that John always has light at the bottom of his eyes. From what it appears to me, it must be Mikoto (or the Gatekeeper) who ends up witnessing the result of John's murders, and apologises for being in denial about his alter's violence. The cameras outside Mikoto's apartment in MeMe could be the Host trying to catch his alter after becoming suspicious of something being wrong. Mikoto could be guilty because he wanted to escape the truth, and prioritised pleasing people and having a stable job over trying to reduce stress in a healthy way.

Thank you for making this analysis video. Keep up the amazing work ❤

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!!!!!💙

I love the effort you put in your videos! Could you make an analysis of Fuuta‘s case when you got the time? You seem to notice much more than I do lmao

@kindnapkin

2 ай бұрын

YESS!! DONT WORRY IM STILL WORKING ON IT AND THE OTHER PRISONERS!! THANKS FOR ENJOYING MY VIDS🥹🫶🫶🫶

AMAZING THEORY ❤❤❤❤❤ TRIKOTO IS SOMETHING I HAVENT CONSIDERED TBH! They mikoto dirty in the first trial and for the second trial I DONT KNOW IF I WANT JOHN TO DISSAPEAR 😢 ALSO LMAO I WAS THINKING ABOUT TRIAGE NOT BEING IN 1 MIL VIEWS YET TOO! LOVE THE REMINDER FOR THAT😂

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

YEAH HAHA AND THANK YOUUU❤️❤️

I haven't seen anyone else mention this yet, so I wanted to. For anyone reading this "John" had his real name revealed in Double's music video. There's a scene with a picture of Mikoto that has been ripped, the top has a blue outline behind it, and has the name "Mikoto" in the corner, then the picture switches to swap the outline colours so that a red outline is at the top with the name "Deviele" (Day-vee-el) in the corner. The photo isn't shown for long, so you may have to go frame by frame to get a good look, but the picture is shown in this video around the 10:47 mark

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

I think it actually says Double?? I'm not sure like I thought it would be his name and the Title of the song "Double" ^^

The tarot card on Mimi’s (??) shirt is the hanged man! I don’t remember the meaning but maybe it corresponds with him

Abt who started the attack, maybe it was both? I used to think mikoto was on his way back from work when i first watched double but then i thought why would he take a baseball bat to work? So i have a different theory, in interro questions, mikoto mentions he often goes out to practice his swing whenever hes too stressed from work to calm himself down, i think thats where he was really going and on his way there as he kept getting messages from his boss he got more stressed and started panicking and getting impatient to get where he was going and practice his swing bcs then hed feel better Thats when john was formed and fronted. During switches in DID i think sometimes an alters intentions or feeling can filter into another alters conciousness (not sure tho since im also a singlet). I believe mikotos intentions of practicing baseball filtered into john so john started swinging bcs of it, since he thought thats what mikoto wanted This way, john was the one holding the bat, ig you could say he was the "real murderer", but mikoto was the one who set the murders in motion somewhat (Sorry for the rant jaja)

love to see your videos

I HAVE COVID AND I JUST WOKE UP AND IM SO HAPPY THANK YOU I LOVE YOU POOKIE 😍‼️‼️‼️‼️

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

THANK UUU POOKIEEE🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺😘

10:10 this is going completely off topic but i felt some sort of anger seeing burny (one of my favourite tsukipro songs) but the images are of enstars idols 😭😭(i love enstars but yknow….)

I'm really sorry, Trikoto theory is cool but I just can't believe it😔 my biggest doubt is that his songs are called "Double" and "MeMe" referring to only 2 personalities exist. It's hard to distinguish the 3rd one too idk. I don't see the theory of psychoanalisys working here (about ego, super-ego and id). Also it's strange that Midokoto didn't get his own pronoun(excluding the kanji/katakana "boku" since there's a lot other personal pronouns, why choose the one that Mikoto can just write differently not say). Things about Mikoto being associated with number 3 a lot is not convincing either. I could only believe it if the Midokoto would seen as a subconsciousness or mix between John and Mikoto when referring to them both, not as a separated personality😭 still this is an amazing analysis tho, love it❤❤

@YaganFamski

20 күн бұрын

Well the idea is he's a gatekeeper and the idea is kind of like a "mix" because he has "control" listen to the start of neoplasm and that doesn't sound like mikoto

So from what im seeing theres a lot of people supporting a Trikoto theory and/or rgb mikotos. However the MVs emphasize the 2 of them only. I think that the Trikoto theory is tru and it could also be rgb but it isnt as clear as there are just 3 makotos. I believe the 'third' isnt quite a third at all which is why it isnt included as a seperate view. The third is aware of both mikoto and Deivole, and i agree that the third is the mix of the two or the original. Mikoto is created to be presentable, deivole releases stress, and the third never fronts, only witnesses. Perhaps they used to front a long time ago as the very first mikoto. This would link well with the security camera stuff and the mixture moments of deivole and mikoto. For all intents and purposes the third mikoto 'doesn't exist', but he is the original mikoto as his name was given to HIM at birth by his mother. I believe he is who we are passing judgment on. Funnily enough though, deivole and ahoge makoto probably dont know who he is either.

Love your vids!! Im a huge fan!!!

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

TYSM!!

@kagami1014

4 ай бұрын

@@kindnapkin np!!! Got my teacher into milgram through ur cat theory video too, thank you for the thorough theories! We are both binging your videos when im early at school lol

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

@kagami1014 WAAHHH TYSM OMG!! That's soo cool to be able to watch smth related to anime (kind of lol) with a teacher!! Tell them my thanks to them as well🥹🫶🫶 I wish I had such a nice teacher as well haha❤️ I would like to know if you both discuss your own theories afterwards :00

@kagami1014

4 ай бұрын

@@kindnapkin we always do! She’s super cool, next time she’s in for work I’ll show her this!

@kagami1014

4 ай бұрын

She is very happy :D

AHHH WOO HOO MIKOTO ANALYSIS

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

YIPPIE

Some of these theories are so hard to spot.

@wonder-pixels

4 ай бұрын

Oh. I did just have a thought about one of your unanswered questions: If the RGB theory is true, could the color pink be the representation of nuance between "Blue" Mikoto and "Red" Mikoto? After all, blue and red light make the color magenta which is close enough to pink.

Strange theory, but the Gatekeeper was definitely the 1st alter, I think the Mido (Gatekeeper) was first the protector but once John was born, he became the Gatekeeper

@YaganFamski

20 күн бұрын

Mikoto himself is an alter by the way

@Your_Local_WeirdWeeb

20 күн бұрын

@@YaganFamski 2nd then

Please make the color coded lyrics vid it would be so nice

I turned the subtitles on and saw it saying "3+3 = 9" and, oh boy

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

FCK I HOPED NO ONE WOULD NOTICE IT HAHAHAHAHAHA

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

do I have to change it 😔 maybe later

loved it

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

i saw the hahihuheho and just knew u were an enstarrie HAHAHA

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

HAHAHAHAHA EXPOSED

i'm learning chinese so i can write out some kanji (altho im rlly unsure if they're right,,,) but idk what it means so u might have to rely on google translate i'm tired so i only did the first one in the first image ell oh ell つぎは 05:03 擲ャ？莠 オ（or才）懈 え 繧ア 大正キ」魘 夲シ域 擲ャ？莠

Vertin?

SORA REFERENCE SPOTTED

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

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I know this might not be related, but while I was waiting for this video to come out, I have simped for Mikoto (including Midokoto and Orekoto) so much that I unconsciously started calling him "Daddy". 🙃

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

PFFTT

oh my GOD IVE BEEN WAITING ON THIS FOR AGESIGSGSGISIHSHI;>!>;!;*!&>!

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

😎

YayyyyyNapkinnnnnn!!!!!!

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

yippie🎉🎉

this video made me sick. How could you

3KOTO MENTIONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

@kindnapkin

4 ай бұрын

LOUDERR 🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥