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@Buffy8Fan

Ай бұрын

I never felt thre was definitive enough proof to move IM3 and the AHTK one shot from 2012 to 2013 until you mentioned Ellis's timeline as President, which makes sense. I knew he was in AOS, but never put the skewed timeline together until this video. Small, but important moments sometimes make bigger sense than the confusion of the big moments that are gray, could be numerous years moments. Personally I like your theory on Trump through Ross. Until we know for sure, I'm going with that as head canon for that presidental run of four in the MCU.

@connorlanham4459

Ай бұрын

Great video once again man. That was a very interesting theory that you had at the end about the election being off by a few years due to the blip. Kind of reminds me of The West Wing series. I’m excited to see if Cap 4 clears things up a bit.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@connorlanham4459 Good point...West Wing is a great analogy. Yeah, I love when Marvel takes the crazy events of the MCU and ties them into the political world. Always leads to some interesting storylines!

I wonder if the guy who played Drakov saw that picture of him with Bill Clinton and said, "Hey, I don't know that dude, that dude's a scumbag! Get me out of there!"

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Too funny! Yeah, I suspect they were both smiling for the picture, but really gritting their teeth from having to be next to each other. lol!

Damn didn't even realize how much the blip could affect the election. Makes a lot of sense.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, you really do have to wonder how that would have played out. I'd love to have more stories that talk about the impact of the blip!

The thing about President Madison, is there's a y in there but its not where you thinnnnnnnnnnk

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

OMG...that was funny. Nicely done!

The Blip moving the election cycle is a great idea I've never thought of. Makes perfect sense for them to do it. I wonder if Ross' comment about "the election" will get removed from the final cut of the film just like what happened with Iron Man 3. Keeps everything ambiguous enough for fans to fill in the blanks.

@chickenphat730

Ай бұрын

I hope not tbh, because by Ironman 3 Obama hadn’t directly appeared, so it makes sense for them not to explain Ellis in the movie. But for Ross, Ritson was literally JUST president in secret invasion and had a major role in it, so to have this come out not that long after and not explain what happened to Ritson I think would be weird and confuse audience members and not really be the same thing as Ironman 3 imo

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I'll be very curious to see if that line remains in. I hope that whatever is left in the movie at least explains the transition from Ritson to Ross. I do like for them to let us fill in the blanks on things, but I just hope they have thought it through enough so that it all works out. Fingers crossed!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

​@@chickenphat730 Right...I agree...I'd prefer they give us a good explanation for the transition. Inquiring minds want to know!

Not sure if you were counting alternate timelines but in the last season of Agents of Shield Coulson actually meets FDR. He finds him being helped into his wheelchair, this was before that was publicly known, and promises to keep the secret. It was a really nice moment, not canon to the Sacred Timeline but still nice

@camdenmortensen5703

Ай бұрын

Until proven otherwise within the canon, it’s sacred timeline to me. Along with the other shows.

@thezalagar8177

Ай бұрын

​@@camdenmortensen5703I would argue that the chronicom-altered timeline isn't sacred...

@BrickMania2

Ай бұрын

@@camdenmortensen5703 I mean't not Sacred as they go back in time, thus leaving the Sacred timeline by Endgame's rules.

@BrickMania2

Ай бұрын

Upon returning to their timeline by the end of the season, they'd be back on the Sacred timeline (or if we're sticking entirely by Endgame's rules, then they arrive in a different timeline and stay there)

@camdenmortensen5703

Ай бұрын

@@thezalagar8177yes of course but what about everything before that?

It’s really cool that it starts moving away from history exactly when the Chitauri invade. I’m guessing that sort of thing would impact a lot that you don’t really consider at first

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good point...yeah, the Chitari attack does indeed seem to be the point that things start to shift away from real world politics. It's always fun to see the MCU dip their toe in the political waters and having Ross as president is going to be wild!

I really like to see how much the timeline diverge from how own because of superheroes existing and how it affect the politics and how their present day diverge from ours

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...I love seeing how the politics of the MCU differ from ours. The street-level / political entries coming up are looking great: Daredevil Born Again, Captain America 4, Thunderbolts *, and Spider-Man 4.

The idea of Obama being blamed for the Chitauri attack is so funny because that definitely would happen

@arrow9091

Ай бұрын

Also, this has to be one of my favorite series of yours. It's so niche and kinda bizarre but fascinating still

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it would be just like the public to blame the President for an alien attack led by an Asgardian. Presidents always seem to get blamed for stuff that's totally out of their control. And glad you enjoy the series. I agree, it's a totally niche topic, but it's also surprisingly interesting. Plus, we keep slowly getting answers to the nagging questions such as Obama and Ellis. Wild stuff!

Man, the blip and the pandemic have even more parallels than I thought. Imagine the MCU incumbent President losing support because of his mishandling of the blip is eerie.

@chadd990

Ай бұрын

Sorry for the grammar mistakes, the browser I’m using doesn’t allow me to edit comments

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree, the blip and the pandemic do indeed have alot in common in regards to how they would impact our politics and the views people have of the office of the presidency!

We really need a "Blip years" series, they can do it like an in-world documentary for the blipped people and discuss things as who was the President of the States (heck, of any given country) in those years, what happens with the Queen of England (The FFH quote is about Elizabeth II, Camilla or even Kate/ Meghan?), the people believe that was the Rapture? What happens to religion, school, sports, concerts worldwide? Did the Avengers said something about Thanos? Did the Pope/Dalai Lama/ a King/Queen blipped? What happened when they come back? It could be really interesting, the Blip is one of the most interesting things in the MCU, they need to use it more

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I totally agree...I'd love a series devoted to telling us about life during the blip. Soooo many cool stories to be told during that timeframe!

Both James Buchanan and James Buchanan Barnes inadvertantly started the civil wars

@AbitofEverything4U

29 күн бұрын

Oh wow...that's a good point. How wild!

This is the type of stuff that would have really benefited from a project set during the Blip years. Aside from being just a cool setting overall, it could've been very informative about the state of the world. A shame we'll probably never get to see something like that at this point

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree, I would have loved a story set in the blip. I hope they find ways of giving us info about that period. I suspect Daredevil: Born Again will give us some more info on it as they bring us up to speed on what everyone's been doing since the end of the Netflix shows. But you are right, they really should have had an entire show set in the blip period. So many stories that could be told!

@ghiggs8389

Ай бұрын

They're probably leaving that untouched to allow for multiple origin stories in the future to happen during or because of that time period.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@ghiggs8389 That's an interesting theory. Would be really cool if we get some origin stories that happened during the blip!

I haven’t engaged with the MCU for a few years so this was a surprising video to get recommended to me, but I really liked the way you put it together. The changes the world could have experienced after the Blip with outcomes like redone elections are really interesting.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

That's so cool that youtube recommended it. Thanks for watching...and yeah, I agree, the blip would have caused some major changes to society and I'd love for Marvel to dig into that abit more sometime. Lots of interesting stories to be told!

Who knew something that should be so simple would be so complicated, haha

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Ikr? Really fun to try to make it all fit!

This is really well thought out!! An election happening in Nov. ‘26 makes a lot of sense! It also gives good context to Fury’s “one-term” comment, Ritson’s reactionism to the skrulls would obviously have affected how he was polling before Election Day. Plus we could have a viable reason for Ritson to have gone so anti-alien, he could be thinking back to Ellis’ win in 2012 and saying, “I’m not going to be the next Obama, I’m going to project strength!” not realizing how it’ll backfire on him.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great points! Yeah, perhaps Ritson was acting that way with the alien edict to try to be sure he won the election, when the result was the opposite. Cool theory!

Unfortunately i dont think the real explanation for the modern MCU presidents will be as thought out.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Sadly, you are probably right. But it's still fun to try to piece it all together and then hope Marvel has the same (or even better) explanation.

Crazy that this video came after I binge watched all of Resyndicated videos. Regarding Ritson and Ellis maybe it's some Harrison/Taylor/Mckinley/Nixon sort of situation

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, there's definitely going to be something wild that happens to Ritson in CA 4. Really interested to see which direction the movie goes. Very good theories on your part!

“Holy presidential elections Batman”-Robin 😂😂 Great video as always very informative 👏🏾

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

lol...yeah, the presidential elections always seem to be interesting in the MCU. Can't wait to see how they handle things with Ross in CA 4!

Seeing how Ross works as president is very interesting after his prior interactions with other Heroes like Steve, Nat, and especially Banner. Also at the very least, I'm sure any off-world based citizens would consider Ritson at best controversial, and I wouldn't blame them at all

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...gonna be wild to see how Ross interacts with the other heroes. I suspect he and Sam won't get along too well, since he had Sam arrested and placed on the Raft!

love that explanation, makes a lot of sense and is the most demorcatic choice too soo realistic

@AbitofEverything4U

27 күн бұрын

Yeah, I find this subject to be so interesting. Lots of things to explore about a topic that otherwise seemed kinda boring on the surface!

Always love this topic - love when the MCU parallels their universe with our own, but shows how it changes as it goes on. Makes me wonder - have we ever had any references to Covid-19 in the MCU? Did they even have a pandemic there or was it stopped because of the snap (somehow lol)

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I've always wondered about Covid and the MCU. I wonder if you are right that the Snap is what stopped it from happening. Maybe whatever initially caused the outbreak irl (i.e. whatever person or lab caused it) ended up being snapped in the MCU and so the outbreak never happened. Interesting to theorize about it!

My suspicion is that we won't get a direct answer to any of this on-screen, because it would just be too confusing to the casual viewers, most of whom are just interested in seeing a new Captain America movie and not closely following the MCU, to hear something like, "Biden was elected during the blip, and half of America came back from the blip and demanded a special election which led to Ritson becoming President." There wouldn't really be a reason to say any of that, other than to satisfy us timeline geeks. The timeline of presidents that we have is pretty much the result of whatever served the given stories in which the various presidents were mentioned. Iron Man 3 needed a fictional president because he was an actual character who played a key part in the movie. So then Ellis was mentioned (and appeared) in a few other places to keep with continuity. But then when Trump got elected in real-life 2016, the writers of the various shows at the time just felt like having their characters react to that news. It wasn't until Secret Invasion that a story in the MCU had a need for another fictional US president, thus Ritson was created. For that story, we didn't need to know exactly when or how he became president, just that he was president at the time, and that it was his first term. Thus, we have a pretty large unknown gap since the blip. But while it would be really cool to find out how the blip affected US elections, I doubt we'll ever find out those kinds of details, unless it actually serves a plot somewhere down the line.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

On one hand, I agree 100% that they don't want to bog things down with an explanation for this interesting dilemma. But on the other hand, if they do keep the line in the movie about "lose the moustache or lose the election" then it shows they are trying to explain Ross becoming president. And considering 2026 isn't a normal election year, it would actually raise questions for viewers, considering everyone will have just participated in the 2028 presidential election a few months back. So it does seem to me they are trying to give us some backstory on how Ross became president, but I agree, it won't be very detailed. I just hope they don't leave us scratching our heads about how Ross got elected. If they hadn't had that line about the election, I'd have been fine with Ross being Ritson's VP and taking over if Ritson got impeached. So I feel that adding the moustache line means they have some type of creative explanation in store for us. We'll find out early next year!

I really like Helstrom, I think it’s an underrated marvel show that should have gotten a second season at least, I hope it gets a sequel one day with all the actors returning, but don’t see that happening anytime soon. But is it really set in the timeline, watching the show I got the impression that it was set in a different timeline, disconnected to the MCU. But if there is some kind of minor evidence saying otherwise I guess I’ll add it to my MCU list. Also I just want to add, that you are the first person I have seen to ever count the tv shows as part of the canon and not just the most popular ones, and I thank you for that. It always peeves me when people ignore or flat out say they’re irrelevant. I understand not including a complete timeline on them because of the investment of watching 100+ hours of television on top of the movies but flat out ignoring them is just wrong in my opinion. People worked hard in those shows and they deserve to be included.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Excellent commentary on the vid. I agree, Helstrom was an underrated show and it's a bummer we never got the full "Adventure Into Fear" series of shows that had been planned. Would have been really cool to see that side of the MCU explored, but perhaps it will finally happen now that we may be getting Midnight Sons. And yeah, I agree, the pre-Disney+ shows are worthy of being mentioned in a vid like this and have alot to offer to Marvel fans. Agents of SHIELD had an amazing run, as an example, and I love how its story wove in and out of the greater MCU storyline. I hope newer fans give those shows a chance and check them out. Lots to love about them.

@michaelroque2662

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U completely forgot that they announced a midnight sons movie, hopefully it’s really well made. I absolutely agree with agents of shield, whether it’s apart of Main MCU canon out apart of some slightly different adjacent timeline, it still has a lot to offer for great storylines. It’s been a few years since I watched it so I don’t remember everything, but some of my favorite Agents of Shield abandoned plot lines is the slow build up to creating “Modok”, and him being a serious threat. That The movies completely ignored. Deathlok, just disappearing, and The fact that Jonny Blaze is just out there, and Robby Reyes too. Always hoped that marvel would bring back Nick Cage and Sam Eliot as an older worn Ghost rider and Caretaker then expanding on the Caretakers role to include the caretakers organization from Helstrom. Was also hoping that the Life model decoys would make an appearance in the movies, but I guess they decided to use the scrulls.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Wow… Excellent list of some of the awesome storylines they had in agents of Shield that I wish we could’ve gotten more of. What a great show!

I have a feeling they'll address it in Cap 4 but it'd be hilarious if after that huge speech about killing all aliens on Earth, Ritson just gets impeached immediately

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

irk? I can totally see him being removed almost immediately after that speech. Would be pretty funny, tbh.

@bouel2709

Ай бұрын

I mean, Thor is an alien, there is an entire alien nation, and last time people checked, there were a bunch of aliens fighting with the Avengers All of them, specially the second one, are impreachment material

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@bouel2709 Well said!

Love this!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's fun to dive into the politics of the MCU!

It is a little weird how one of the Hulk's nemeses has just become a Captain America villain between Civil War, his cameo in Infinity War and now Brave New World but I guess that is what happens when Marvel can't make designated Hulk films. Have you heard about the new Discussing Film magazine that cameo out on Deadpool & Wolverine? It states that the film will take place 6 years after Deadpool 2 making it 2024 in the Fox universe, with that in mind I hope they don't place it with the 2024 projects on Disney+ because that would mean it is happening in between Loki S1 and 2 and I don't think that they would have the TVA's first appearance after their redemption take place before that.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree, it is really weird that CA 4 is going to feature a Hulk villain. I really wish they could just make a proper Hulk film, but it's still going to be cool to see the Leader return after all these years. And I agree, I think Deadpool & Wolverine needs to be after Loki season 2 in the timeline. 2024 in the Deadpool universe doesn't have to match directly with 2024 in the main MCU, since each universe has its own flow of time. Will be interesting to see where the movie gets placed on the D+ timeline!

Very interesting and informative video! I really like your theory about the special election because of the blip-it makes a lot of sense!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Thanks! I think it's so interesting to consider all the ways that life was impacted by the blip. So much ground to be covered even this far out from the event!

Thanks for all your hard work, truly!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Thanks...really have alot of fun doing these type of vids!

Hope Mcu introduces Robert Kelly in Mcu similar to x men 97

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Oh wow, now that would be very cool!

Love that theory! Would love any info related to the blip years

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...I really want to know more about the blip period.

@medianicko

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U agreed! I’m really surprised Disney never did Disney+ show specifically about that time period.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yep...total bummer!

This was a great video, always love to keep track of all the different Presidents of the United States in the MCU throughout the years and see how accurate it is compared to the real world.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's a pretty interesting topic...and will become even more interesting with CA 4, I suspect!

Okay the reelection idea is brilliant I will personally adopt as my headcanon until proven otherwise. Bravo!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, I thought the recall election was an interesting possibility. Really curious how they explain it all in CA 4!

If everyone coming back from the blip demanded a re-election because they weren't there to vote in the previous one, that would make so much sense! It'd be very American 😂💀

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ikr? That would make alot of sense and would be exactly what I'd expect from the people who were blipped. Totally an America thing to do. lol!

I don't really have a theory, but I do know that we have better ideas, theories and more thought out versions of events than Marvel themselves

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, I do have to wonder sometimes if they are thinking these things through or not. Maybe we'll find out they have a clever plan when CA 4: Brave New World arrives. Or maybe we'll be scratching our heads saying "hmmm, now that made no sense at all." Hoping for the former!

Interesting video!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Thanks so much...really appreciate the positive feedback!

The end of the video with the post blip election got me thinking: did Thanos snap away half of humanity based on total earth population, or just took half of everyone from each country? That would def change dynamics as SE Asia and China would lose more ppl than the US for example. It doesn’t matter much in this context of the election but it def got me asking questions about who was taken

@AbitofEverything4U

15 күн бұрын

Great question! Yeah, the blip is such a fascinating subject. I would love more stories centered around how the world dealt with it.

I know its not in the actual MCU but LBJ does appear in the fantastic 4 cast reveal

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good point! Fantastic 4 looks great. But yeah, it's weird we never saw LBJ in the main MCU. Would have figured he'd have been mentioned somewhere.

I don't know if having a reelection makes sense, it seems hard to believe, but it's a good way to get Ross to be president in 2027. That said, I'm not necessarily convinced the movie will take place in 2027. Like, yes, The Marvels took place in 2026, which was 2023 for us. If Marvel keeps up this trend, that means 2024 is 2027, and 2025 will be 2028, which is still early for Ross to be president, but I do think it's possible this movie takes place in 2028 and moves into 2029.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yup, I agree that the biggest question at this point is what year does CA 4 take place in. If it does take place at the end of 2028, then I think it all works out fine. I just would be surprised if we jump from the end of 2026 with Secret Invasion all the way to the end of 2028 with CA 4. Can't wait to see how it all works out!

I like the theory!!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, it's definitely an interesting idea. The blip would have had major ramifications on life as we know it. I'd love to see more stories around its impact!

Can’t have enough of this information

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

I agree...I love this type of stuff. The street-level / political entries coming up are looking great: Daredevil Born Again, Captain America 4, Thunderbolts *, and Spider-Man 4.

I can only imagine the damage control and chaos that would happen if Trump of all people got blipped, oh my word…

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Very true! Oh the conspiracy theories that would generate!

I know this is all fiction but it’s cool to think about what happened politically when everyone came back.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ikr? I love trying to determine how politics work within the MCU, especially when something crazy like the blip occurs!

Would you suppose the recall election in '23 is where a Steve Rogers variant is elected from the scene in "What If..." It is interesting to see how the rise of public superheroes has fed the country's "do it now" sentiment, and according to this proposed timeline, no president has been granted a second term in Office since GWB in 2004. Honestly pairs well with Vision's take he shared in Civil War. The rise of superheroes brought upon bigger challenges, something a political legislative bureaucracy seems powerless to promptly and swiftly deal with. Makes it that much more baffling that the Sokovia Accords gained that much public support without malevolent manipulations, but I digress...

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Wow, excellent commentary. You're right, this does show that Vision's statement in Civil War was quite prophetic. And that would be cool if the What If episode with Steve Rogers as president was a result of the recall election. Fantastic feedback. Loved reading it all!

Really great video once again! I do have some questions tho, so if the election that elected Ross is in November 2026, then wouldn’t that be the same month as Secret Invasion because that’s also in November 2026? And elections normally happen toward the beginning of the month, so that would probably mean that Secret Invasion would overlap or be after it. And to me it doesn’t really seem like Ritson is acting like he just lost or he is in the election month at all. I agree he’s toward the end of his term probably, but yeah. So to fix this November thing and keep your theory, I would say that since everyone came back from the blip in October 2023, I feel like just less than a month probably wouldn’t be enough time to get everything for the election ready and have everyone do their campaigns and stuff, so maybe instead of November 2023 they waited until December 2023 or even January 2024 to do the election (still not long for campaigns and stuff, but oh well), changing both the years and months going forward for elections. So then in 2026 we could say in December Ross got election or in January 2027 or something like that, and then he actually goes into office a couple months after that. And yeah I don’t think Trump getting blipped would be any better either, because if he died it would have gone to Pence, maybe he got blipped too tho, but then technically it goes to Speaker of the House after vice president, etc, but maybe they just said no let’s do an election anyway, but still that would make it so Biden would be like July 2018-July 2022 (July because that’s a couple months after May when the snap happened) and then Ritson would be July 2022- July 2026, so that wouldn’t help obviously lol that’s worse. So yeah I personally like my first idea, and then we still won’t be in 2028 which I agree would be making the MCU’s timeline go too quick.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

So I should have mentioned it in the vid, but Secret Invasion happened around Unity Day in Russia, which is Nov 4th in 2026. But it does seem the election is on Tuesday, November 3rd in 2026, which still creates the issue. So I like your idea that the election cycle may have moved back a month due to the blip and the special election. Nice call!

@chickenphat730

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U Oh ok, yeah I forgot what days they were. And thanks!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

And thank YOU!

3:16 pretty sure those are adams, jeferson, harrison, Lincoln, grant Roosevelt, carter, and reagan. Might be wrong.

@AbitofEverything4U

15 күн бұрын

Niiiice! I do suspect you are right about that!

My guess is that Biden was president in MCU and Ritson was impeached and that’s why Ross is president instead of having a large time jump for Cap 4

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, impeachment sure seems like the most likely outcome. But if they keep that line about "lose the mustache or lose the election" then it sure seems like Ross won via an election. Very curious to see how it all plays out in CA 4. Thanks for the excellent feedback on the vid!

Could you make a video for who has been the President in the Fox X-Men movies?

@AbitofEverything4U

28 күн бұрын

That's a cool idea. ofc, I've found that there is very little agreement on which movies belong in which timeline. So it could be abit harder than it seems on the surface. But I do like the suggestion!

That newspaper from a show that’s not even Canon to the MCU about Trump being president. Also, just because Luke mentions him a lot doesn’t mean that he was president even if that part of the show is canon or not

@AbitofEverything4U

28 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's abit harder to tell 100% for sure if Trump was president, but the reference to not feeling so weird since November 9th is a huge indication. That was the day after Trump won the 2016 election.

People wanting a reelection after the blip. Wow, now that’s something I’d never thought I’d have think about in the MCU. Crazy how all this stuff is potentially happening in the background if you stop and think about it for a sec.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ikr? I mean, the blip likely had a massive affect on the MCU so I love any chance we get to learn more about how it impacted peoples lives!

Unrelated but how am I only just noticing the Homecoming steelbook? But my first major comment is obviously about Ellis. He might have made the comment in 2011 but not been President at the time and the sign was changed to eventually reflect his presidency. Something to point out with Ritson and Ross is the election may have been on an unusual dating if Ritson unalived or something. But your idea regarding the blip also lines up with that concept of messed up presidential reigns.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yep, great theory on the Ellis sign reflecting his highest rank in office, versus the rank he was when he made the quote. And yeah, I love the idea that the blip messed things up for the election cycle. We need more lore around how the average person was impacted by it.

6:10 i thought magneto killed JFK lol

@AbitofEverything4U

13 күн бұрын

Good point...poor JFK got killed by Marvel characters in two different universes!

To answer your question about Marvel TV, I think Agents Of Shield and Agent Carter are definitely canon. I mean, Agents of Shield ran much longer than most Netflix shows, and has a fan base comparable to Daredevil. If Marvel has recognized the canon of series like Iron Fist, or Luke Cage, or The Punisher, Agents of Shield is definitely canon for me. That added to the connections between Agents of Shield and Age Of Ultron, for example. I have doubts about Cloak And Dagger and Runaways, although I like to think they are canon too. I also consider Inhumans canon, by association, that is, because of its references to Agents of Shield. And the only one I definitely don't consider canon is Hellstrom.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Very good theories on what is sacred timeline canon vs. a branch off in the multiverse. I really hope Marvel gives AoS and Agent Carter the love they deserve at some point. Would be great to see Daisy return for Secret Wars, for example!

@Alexromval

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@@AbitofEverything4U My theory is actually very simple hahahaha For me, the Netflix series along with Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, Inhumans, Cloak And Dagger, and Runaways form a microverse. They all have connections to each other. Therefore, if the Netflix series are officially recognized as canon, they are all canon to me. I do not consider Helstrom canon because I have not seen it, and because it premiered in 2020, when everyone knew that Marvel was building its own television platform and that Marvel TV was going to disappear. It felt like a last gasp for Marvel TV. But I have been reading that several publications on official accounts named her as part of the MCU, and that Gabriel Luna was even intended to reprise his role as Ghost Rider. So maybe I'll rethink my judgment and give her a chance just to see what happens with her.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

​@@Alexromval Well said. Yes, there are a ton of connections between all of the pre-Disney+ shows. Interestingly, the Netflix shows had the least number of connections with the other shows, which might be why Marvel chose to only bring Netflix in for now, but you are absolutely right that they all form a sort of microverse and it's hard to pull them apart and only bring in Netflix. Fingers crossed Marvel brings in more soon!

Somewhat related somewhat not I saw the MCU timeline book was being sold at my local Barnes & Noble almost got it but turns out I guess I don't have enough punches to get a discount so I'm going to wait until I can get the discount

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Darn, hope you can get it soon. It's a really good book!

@captainjakemerica4579

Ай бұрын

Yeah from the little time I had it was really good and definitely a solid breakdown of the MCU timeline

@captainjakemerica4579

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Did read the Ant-Man book which was a decent read gotta say felt a little underwhelmed but did enjoy hearing him write about how he feels about Cassie. Definitely liked hearing how he loved her and was sad he missed 5 years of her life. I may only be a step-dad but can relate to that now. Madison wants more kids so I'm sure I'll relate more in the future.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

@@captainjakemerica4579 Agreed!

@captainjakemerica4579

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​@AbitofEverything4U yeah I got to say in the movie itself I feel like Scott hyped the book up a little too much

The smaller Marvel shows adding Trump to the timeline makes it funny, because now he has to have been President during the blip, which of course the writers of infinity war and endgame didn’t intend. So in real life and MCU, Trump loses his second term because of a major global event (COVID and the Blip) Also this means that Thaddeus Ross would’ve served in the Trump administration attempting to enforce the Sokovia Accords. Funny to imagine their conversations.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Oh wow...I love it. Those are some really good points. Yeah, Trump and Ross would have made an interesting pair. And Trump losing thanks to both COVID (irl) and the Blip (MCU) is so wild!

Wow 10 months seems like yesterday when you posted this

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ikr? Isn't that crazy!

@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01

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@@AbitofEverything4U sure is

@AbitofEverything4U

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💯

@AbitofEverything4U

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@malus1426 Tru dat!

Actually a great theory. I don’t trust the MCU to give that backstory but it’s cool. Reminds me of the boys

@AbitofEverything4U

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Very true...I'm probably over thinking it...something I do quote often. lol!

I actually have an alternate explanation for what happened during the blip, I don’t think that Biden was president at all. Alternatively I think that the blip is as good a time as any to have an extreme state of emergency where they deny elections for a sense of security and stability. So I think trump was president the entire time. This helps us not randomly assume that Biden was president without any evidence and explains the election situation for the future. That also makes perfect sense for them to have an immediate reelection after they all came back. I do agree that after everyone came back they gave ritsen a bigger term to return it to normal schedule

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good suggestion! Yeah, I could see there being no new election during the blip to keep a sense of stability. That theory makes alot of sense.

So if there was a Trump presidency from 2016-2020 (and I agree with your reasoning that there was) that means that Thaddeus Ross was Trump's Secretary of State since Civil War very solidly is set in 2016. This does 2 things. 1. It actually makes sense that the Solovia Accords are only being enacted now. The Sokovia incident was a year ago but it happened on the tail end of Ellis' presidency. The division of how people felt about who was responsible and what the White House and world leaders were or were not doing about it...all that probably conspired to cost Ellis re-election and gives the White House to Trump (in addition to the real world factors which I won't go into here.) 2. This would also serve as pretty strong evidence of party affiliation in this fictional universe. This likely means that Ross is a Republican. He is military, the vast majority of whom tend to be Republicans and he had a Cabinet post in the Trump administration. Likely Ellis is probably Democrat. It's even possible that Ellis (not Biden) was VP under Obama. Although not likely because any goodwill Obama had would have likely led to him getting re-election like he did in real life instead of transitioning to an Ellis term. This makes me think Ellis probably arrived in a primary challenge and brought down Obama in his own party. We know Ellis was banning certain biotechnology and bailing out oil fat cats so there is enough difference between him and Obama to make a primary challenge work. Now this does leave the question of what was Ritson? That isn't at all clear from what we've seen of him in Secret Invasion. But it would seem to be that at least by 2027 we have gone back to a Republican administration under Ross.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Love all your theories. I think it's so cool to try to theorize on how things like the presidential elections would work in the MCU given all the craziness like the Chitauri invasion, the blip, etc. I'd love for Marvel to give us more details on things like that. But I loved reading all your idea. Thanks for sharing all that. Great stuff!

What about the one line that Luke Cage has saying that the President is Black? While it is a reference to Obama, it's after he would have left office according to this line-up of Presidents. I can't remember what episode it is, but it's in Season 1, which you have placed at late 2015, and according to this line-up, Obama was out of office for nearly 3 years by the time Luke references him. Is it just out of habit, did he forget Ellis was elected? What's going on there? Do we just chalk it up as a continuity error, or did Obama remain in the political spectrum to a such a degree that it never felt like he left office? I like the idea of the Attack on New York tanking whatever re-election efforts there were, but then is Luke an Ellis denier? And speaking of Ellis, is he really so much better than Obama, and was Trump just that alluring that he took his spot as the Republican Candidate in 2016? Typically, if someone's not going to keep a second term either something politically damaging happens that they drop out, or more reasonably the other side just won, which I would say suggests that Ellis is Republican. I don't know, maybe the attack on New York during an election year just really messed everything up for Obama, but I just don't see it. If 9/11 had happened in 2000 or 2004, maybe it would have been a lot more impactful on the election/re-election of George W. Bush, but because it was in 2001, there was plenty of time to re-strategize. After two terms it can be a complete tossup and you can form a "dynasty", but what the heck happened in the MCU to cause Obama to lose (I can't imagine he just walks away from even attempting a second term in the MCU), but then even the Republican Party turns on their incumbent in Ellis. And then on top of that, unless Ritson takes a real heel turn because of the Skrull situation, I think it's fair to say he's likely a Trump stand-in with the ban policy on aliens and declaring the planet as his own (I mean, I'm not saying Democrats also wouldn't take it personally that aliens were trying to take over, but given the more liberal ideologies that make up that party, that's quite the extreme turn, at least push for a policy to identify non-humans in specific scenarios like government and military personnel, don't just make a blanket call to action.). And now we're getting Ross, who must have had quite the successful campaign trail because he also feels like someone who would lean more conservative given that he's the one to present the Avengers with the Sokovia Accords and wants the government to control superhero intervention (which to be fair, the United Nations came together on that, it's not just whoever was in charge in the US at that time), not to mention his own obsession with someone like Bruce Banner (I totally get wanting to secure him because of a government experiment loose in his body, but it's to the point of denying him basic human rights.). And if Ritson is assumed to be a Trump stand-in, he's not giving up that position easily which means he either stays with the party that elected him, or he creates a third party. Are superheroes and aliens to blame for the number of one-term politicians taking office that are yet weirdly consistent, or is everyone actually starting to come together more and the political parties are much more moderate to allow anyone from either party to be President and the views not differ so much? Would a Democratic President be as fearful of Mutants when we finally reach that point? I'm not saying there isn't reason for concern when it comes to Aliens, Mutants, and Super Powered individuals running around in the world, but like, given that those things are used as allegories in our fiction, does that affect the definitions of what it means to be conservative and liberal in the MCU where these things actually exist? What is going on here?!

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Wow...really good analysis. I love thinking through the political ramifications of how aliens and superheroes might change the voting styles of the public. Really fun topic to brainstorm. As for Luke Cage's series referring to Obama, I need to do some research on that. I don't recall the series ever referring to him as the current president, but you have me curious now. Thanks for all the great feedback!

I really have no idea about all of this but I have some thoughts. First, Obama could have decided he just wanted one term, however unlikely that is. Second, fascism never really left during the 40's and 50's so the current president in 201-whenever wouldn't really impact the resurgence of such groups. Third, does that just mean that every president since 2012 either decided on one term or did every voter decide that a new candidate was the best choice? I get that a lot hear happened in the world but still.

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great commentary...yeah, it's wild how it seems each president has only lasted one term. That said, with the craziness that happens in the MCU, I can imagine the public being very fickle and unfairly blaming the president for things waaaaay beyond their control. Well, sorta like irl, ig? lol!

Ritsen maybe 47th for the time being

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, probably so. Good theory!

How many presidents are these?

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Great question...we need to know who was president during the blip, but other than that open item, I think we have 48 presidents in the MCU so far!

What movie are you most excited for in phase 5 and 6

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Oh wow...so many to choose from. My hype is through the roof for Deadpool and Wolverine, but I do suspect Secret Wars could be even crazier. I'll still go DP&W for now though. How about you?

@Mark_theDemon

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U The one I'd be most excited for would definitely be Spider-Man 4. I LOVE the idea of Peter being on his own and being broke so that means in the movie, if he makes new friends they could also introduce some characters from the college era of spidey. Also we could se some more iconic Spider-Man villains! 😄

@Mark_theDemon

Ай бұрын

I just hope Sony doesn't add multiverse stuff and make it street level

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Excellent choice. I agree, Spider-Man 4 has the potential to be an awesome movie!

Also a bit off topic but what you were saying about Nostalgia making bad movies seem better I honestly got to say I disagree with you on that Batman and Robin seems like it was hated in 1997 and outside of one video I saw stupidly trying to defend it it's still considered an atrocity of the superhero movie genre as it's supposed to be

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good point on Batman and Robin...that was a really bad movie. Bummer, as it had such potential!

@captainjakemerica4579

Ай бұрын

Okay you apparently have a unique perspective I don't really feel like it had potential I feel like Joel Schumacher was a lot like the Zack Snyder before Zack Snyder he should have never been involved with DC from the start

@captainjakemerica4579

Ай бұрын

Yeah all the evidence I need to know is that Joel Schumacher had a pretty dang solid Harvey Dent / Two-Face that being Tommy Lee Jones yet he wasted him and made him a joke along with that awful design thank God for Aaron Eckhart and Christopher Nolan who actually portrayed him more faithful to the comics and actually made his tragedy sad

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yeah, good points. Schumacher definitely was in over his head!

@captainjakemerica4579

Ай бұрын

@AbitofEverything4U yes just like Zack Snyder with the majority of his filmography seems like 300 is the only movie he made where he wasn't out of his depth

damn 💀 mcu needs to just re-elect ellis

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Agreed...we need more Ellis!

Agent cater series smh

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Love Agent Carter!

@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U same Here I’m shaking my head how on earth it’s not cannon it’s beyond me

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

ikr? Doesn't make much sense at all.

@TheDukeCountyGaBoy01

Ай бұрын

@@AbitofEverything4U it feels cannon

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

💯

Why can't the real life JFK assassination have such a simple answer

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Preach it!

@captainjakemerica4579

Ай бұрын

@AbitofEverything4U yes read a book all about it and gave me no answers just many more questions and also changed my opinion on Ronald Reagan who gave a real nice eulogy when he was assassinated except when he was president he decided to close the committee that was investigating the assassination with the help of his vice president and it was right before there was going to be some major Revelations given but then the witnesses died so now we may never know

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Ugh!

@captainjakemerica4579

Ай бұрын

Yeah so he pretty much gave him a great eulogy only to then give him a big middle finger two decades after his death something he could have done to honor him give closure to all those wondering what happened yet he gave him a big middle finger and danced on his grave and memory only thing that hurts him more is his nephew Robert F Kennedy Jr I can say with confidence he'd be ashamed of him along with his father RFK Sr many who knew his father and uncle say the same thing about him and not even his own current living family support him

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Sigh...

So disappointing I was hoping that George W Bush was not president in the MCU and that Obama served during his term so I guess it's safe to say that the MCU went through the Iraq War

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Right...I do have to wonder if the Iraq War did indeed occur. I mean, there is still alot of tension with the MIddle East in Iron Man 1.

@captainjakemerica4579

Ай бұрын

Well it was fully a Bush thing so wouldn't surprise me one of the main differences between an Al Gore presidency and George W bush that many alternate history video speculate on is that the Iraq War would not have happened if Al Gore was president

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Good theory!

a native american guy is next hopefully

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Wouldn't that be awesome!

Well, thank goodness it was never Donald Trump lol 😅

@foremostnote4903

Ай бұрын

Oh wait… never mind, I retract my statement

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Yep, looks like Trump was indeed president. Wonder if Ellis just didn't run again. Maybe he was like "4 years of this superhero insanity is all I can take!"

Wasn't there also a "Obama care" mention in Runaways in the middle of the Ellis term or something?😅 (I might be wrong though, have only seen it once and can't find it after it vanished from Disney+ (at least in my country🇧🇻🥲))

@AbitofEverything4U

Ай бұрын

Hmmm...I don't recall that, but you could be right. If so, it would probably be okay, however, since people still call it Obama care even today. Oh, and you can find runaways on the CW website: www.cwtv.com/shows/runaways/. It's free, but it does have commercials. Thanks for watching the vid and sharing your thoughts. Really appreciate it!