The talk about Giroud. I love the man, when he was at Arsenal as a Chelsea fan I still loved him. He was always the one striker if the ball was rolling across the 6 yard line to him I'd be like "he'll miss that" and he would but then a cross comes in that's 5 feet behind him and he'll somehow acrobatically get on the end of it and it'd fly in. Such an entertaining player to watch for the above reasons for me. Not a great goalscorer but a scorer of great goals. Love the man!

@Toronto_James

6 ай бұрын

He’s still doing it at Milan too. Great hair too.

Giroud is so under rated always a great presence on the pitch great team player, always a threat in any team he plays in

I remember assists being counted when Thierry had the record for 20 assists in a season while also scoring 24 goals, 02-03. I think assists really came in to play as another stat for the Messi-Ronaldo annual tallies.

Always been a fan of Giroud and would have loved to have seen him in a Black and White shirt of Newcastle United

Giroud is a very classy striker. Not the most clinical and that maybe stops him being spoken about amongst the elite. His movement, first touch and ability to score from awkward positions is unmatched. A real team player.

@AK-74K

6 ай бұрын

Yep, that comment is spot on. Does so many things for the team beyond goal scoring

I was actually annoyed when Chelsea let Giroud go. He was such a great player for us, scored key goals for us and I suppose was underrated by the manager at the time

@wasabijones4571

6 ай бұрын

they let go of him at Arsenal at a time when they still needed an arial threat too. didnt make sense to wait for him to become a clutch player and then sell him

Giroud is not a great goalscorer but a scorer of great goals. Whith a very good all round game.

Olivier Giroud is like a wall you pass to in indoor football. Just a class guy. His ability to make runs that move defenders follow him is not talked about. Why do you think Griezman loves playing with him so much? " Olivier Giroud is my favorite striker post 2010. I'll defend OG until until.

You will not rewrite history 😂 i love Giroud as an Arsenal fan & wish we kept him, however he is not underrated in the slightest. Very much gets as much respect as he deserves, should have scored way more if anything

@DuttyDoes

6 ай бұрын

I’d take him now. Especially how we play

@dontchatbreeze

6 ай бұрын

@@DuttyDoes we had ozil, cazorla and runners with pace like walcott to supply him.

@DuttyDoes

6 ай бұрын

@@dontchatbreeze don’t put Walcott in this, ozil hit n miss Cazorla. Arsenal play way more effective football with more crosses now

@dontchatbreeze

6 ай бұрын

@@DuttyDoes no, i mention walcott because he would frequently use his pace to break through the lines and put in a ball. ozil created the most chances in europe across 5 years, arsenal used to consistently put the ball onto a plate for giroud

Mesut Ozil is the assist king 👑

Always liked Giroud, never wanted him to leave Arsenal

i feel giroud got a lot of low key hate because he was so good looking

Everytime you see Giroud do a little flick or back heel in the middle of the park during the lead up to an Arsenal goal. Just know there was twice as many that went straight back to the opposition.

Wanted to come in and say that Football Manager started the assist counting decades ago (also, I used to not let the SC take the penalty if he was the one fouled, because I wanted his assist to go up by one. They removed this later. Damn) Also, while scoring is definitely the number one joy in football, assisting is a close 2nd, esp if it comes from those beautiful flicks and/or team-passing, or if you are David Beckham. Shearer is typical Shearer (Blackburn fan here by the way 😅 )

on top of my mind i always remember Maradona assist to Jorge Burruchaga to win the 1986 World Cup Final

Honestly, this feels a very English conversation...counting of assists has probably risen with the embrace of statistics, and for the EPL the embrace of wider styles of play in the past couple of decades and statistics, but while certainly tens and playmakers always scored goals, appreciation of passes and pass makers has always been a bigger part of watching the game in other parts of the world. To me, a lot of the English football laments--who's the great passer missed, who should've been the "Golden Generation" midfield, etc, always feel self-defeating--those aren't the players the game/culture celebrated, so those aren't the players that England paid attention to. I mean, they exist/existed, but they weren't appreciated or developed the way they mightve in Itay or Spain or Brazil, etc,. It's counting who makes passes that lead to goals! Of course you want track that!

Probably the best in the game in terms of holding the ball up and linking play

Agreed around 2004 / 5 I think fifa also and the American introduction of the game as they were obssesed with assists when I used to play online with them. They have it in all American sports. NBA especially.

Assists stat started being tracked in 94.

It began with Michael Laudrup - He was simply the best

Think Henry changed it. Goals and Assists were his thing

The modern discussion of assists predates fantasy football and I think is more linked to games like championship manager (now football manager) as opposed fantasy football.

@Chengyuan79

6 ай бұрын

Wanted to come in and say this (also, I used to not let the SC take the penalty if he was the one fouled, because I wanted his assist to go up by one. They removed this later. Damn)

Such great assists. but i would have included Cantona's assist for Irwin goal vs Spurs. Caveat: Im a United fan.

In the year Leicester won the league, at the business end of the season, Giroud went scoreless in like 13 league games, as Arsenal’s main striker when they had a chance of winning the league….he’s done well, especially with the national team, but I feel like there’s a lot of revisionism about this guy 😂

@StheSharknl

6 ай бұрын

Jeah exactly!!! I was a professional Giroud hater during his time at Arsenal haha. That team with Jesus instead might have won it.

@reginald6451

6 ай бұрын

Same time Ozil was going to break the record for assist

@buchiaduba1523

6 ай бұрын

Jesus really 😂 you ain’t winning anything with Jesus as your main man Giroud was great now I think he is under appreciated for his all round hold up play if you can get top players playing off him he’s top He had it at France and Chelsea and it done it him wonders. He was never a prolific 30 Goal a season Kind of striker and if you aren’t people will always over look you especially if you are in a top team Same thing with Jesus atm his alround play is brilliant just doesn’t score enough goals hence it’s always like can arsenal Find a new striker 😂 It’s not about his goal record but more about his all round play

@bluesEvanskro

6 ай бұрын

And he didn’t have a shot in target throughout the entire 2018 World Cup I mean in that France team that’s some achievement 😂

@Footballazz

6 ай бұрын

Well unfortunately for Jesus, unlike Giroud in the France team, he doesn’t have a winger or two that can guarantee 20 goals a season…if you could count on Saka and Martinelli both netting more than 18 or so goals a season, then we wouldn’t need Jesus to hit 20 either…as it stands we don’t have a true goal scorer in the team, we have good players that score goals…and just like Giroud’s time at Arsenal, Jesus will ultimately end up as a failure unless he gets that proven goal scoring partner or somehow manages to score the goals himself

Fantasy football has made assists important

Giroud is similar to Raheem Sterling... they will only be recognized once they retire. The thing is they been in Teams were too many players were deemed more of Superstars than them. His stats are scary good. Giroud is willing to do everything for the team...

It started after USA 94. It came from American sport.

appealing to the US brought in the "assist"

Good Poacher & finisher I’ll give him that but he’s not the type of striker to succeed without a plethora of stars in the team. He’s not a stand alone star striker who can lead his team to greatness or to a win something else we would of seen that while he was at Arsenal. I think he’s in the best league for him right now Serie A is perfect for the type of player he is.

Giroud is a facilitator he makes players around him look better an he not a great goal scorer he is a scorer of great goals

Football manager is where it came from, or champ manager ss it was then. Wasn't a common term until then

Giroud great player

King of assist is Bergkamp hands down ICEMAN

Bergkamp made the assist sexy

Micah Richards was actually a fantastic footballer when he first came through. I don’t get all the stick he gets on this show.

they should start a puskas type award for the year’s best assist

I think basketball has something to do about it, they count assists since the 80's maybe the 70's.

I am of course a nobody but ngl always enjoyed setting up goals more than scoring

Zico - when the assists are better than the goals.

I can’t imagine a assist ever feels the same as a goal for a professional

@bravoanane

6 ай бұрын

If you’re whipping it in outside right foot like Modric you definitely are

Assists became a thing as the game became more accessible to Americans.

Not underated by Arsenal fan. His link up play was awesome. A player eho wpuld enjoy assiting too, but im sure he eould prefer scoring. What i didnt like was hos scoprion celebration in the next game agter he drew up level, think we had 5 minites left, try and win this crucial game. But yea what a player! That Arsenal team woth Wilshire, Carzola Giroud, Sanchez, Ozil etc should have won sooo much more...its crazy

assists became a thing in 1994

I didn't realize that there were three people on the panel until 10 seconds into the show. You only showed two people. It felt misleading and exclusive. Include all three of the participants in the room right at the top of the show, not just two.

@umangdesai6408

6 ай бұрын

lol what?

@jcnrcisse

6 ай бұрын

😂 wot you on about you melon

@cribb6376

6 ай бұрын

There is only two real players though.. That other dark lad is making the numbers up

@baileystoner974

6 ай бұрын

@@cribb6376shut up

Micah has about 4 stories

Giroud is not underrated because he's being hailed as "underrated" every single time someone mentions him. We know how good he is, he's rated well lol

@zxcbbnm7552

6 ай бұрын

He is because he has an entire fan base hellbent on tearing down his legacy and calling him overrated

An incredibly frustrating player when playing as the main striker.

@zxcbbnm7552

6 ай бұрын

Milan, chelsea, Montpellier and France would disagree

so funny to see these 3 british guys envious about 3 top French players in historical order - Henry / Giroud & Mbappe😁

I wonder if data on "assists" became popular once the betting firms expanded their repetoire. Plus the game went high-tech and GPS fed-back all-sorts of data that the Americans were using in their sports leagues in order to gain an advantage over opponents. Just a hunch.

It's true many ppl say he's underrated, but it's still true cos he's never considered as one of the great players of our time.

I believe people started caring about assists because of the Messi and Ronaldo debate. We became so focused on statistics in football during their era, goals and assists became the most important factor for how some people judge a player. I still remember not too long ago, think it was Jamie Redknapp, watching Sky Sports and the pundits were ridiculing recording assists being a thing. Messi and Ronaldo broke football. When a player would get 30 goals back in the day we'd go crazy. When players did that in the Messi and Ronaldo era, no one really cared because those two would get 50/60 goals a season.

@MannYSJ1080p

6 ай бұрын

Assists were still recorded and appreciated before this, we just started using g/a as more of a metric during their peak rivalry.

@BombXXplosive

6 ай бұрын

@@MannYSJ1080p Of course! I’m just saying there used to be a time where it was just goals that got majority of the attention. It was the Messi and Ronaldo era that gave both goals and assists the weight it has now. I think in the last couple years they are also starting to include ‘pre assists’ which I hear quite a lot

@Footballazz

6 ай бұрын

You’re absolutely right and honestly, the assist stat has varying weight to it due to how it’s calculated and thus renders it impossible to truly gauge a players impact based on assist numbers alone…which is why I believe the new emphasis on stats which became prevalent during the Messi v Ronaldo era is a bullshit way to discuss football. I’ll explain. In the last round of games, Liverpool beat Brentford 3-0, and Tsimikas almost or actually (can’t remember which) won man of the match for a clean sheet and two assists. His first assist, brilliant attacking fullback play, high intensity, never gave up on the ball, wonderful stretch to keep it in and a near perfect back post cross to Salah. His second Assist, a less than 5 yard sideways (always backwards) pass to Jota who then proceeds to sell the defender 3 different times before hitting a scorcher into the far corner. He basically did nothing to contribute to that second goal but got credit for an assist. He also got credit for a clean sheet when he was actually the worst defender for Liverpool and almost cost them that same clean sheet stat. So here you have it in one game, two opposite ends of the spectrum for this assist stat that people care so much about when it should only be a case by case stat. Messi had a similar situation in the world cup, where he got an assist for doing almost nothing because Enzo hits a screamer from the edge of the box, but then he makes one of the best passes in the tournament in the match against the Netherlands. The first assist doesn’t come close to the second but they both show up on the stat sheet. This is the reason why stats imo are given too much importance and while I think the Messi v Ronaldo rivalry played a part, I think the bigger cause was the advent of the internet and social media to be more exact. Fans went from actually watching games and making their judgments to looking at graphical tweets and/or 10 second clips to judge a player’s performance. This is the main issue today

@BombXXplosive

6 ай бұрын

I agree with everything you said tbh! It's something I saw gain popularity on social media first. Especially on Twitter which I've been using since like 2010. The reason why I brought up Messi vs Ronaldo is because at first the hype was over their ridiculous goal scoring stats. Then people started to introduce assists into the discussion which Messi was dominating. All of a sudden the conversation went from goals to goals and assists which is why now you have so many people that don't watch the games just judge a player by their stats. Some of those guys look at players like Zidane, Iniesta, Scholes etc and would swear they were overrated all because some players that we look at as average players in comparisons to legends may have better stats. @@Footballazz

@Footballazz

6 ай бұрын

@@BombXXplosive well said. It’s funny too because the assist stat wasn’t even a thing at the start of some of those players’ careers lol. It’s sad how much emphasis people put on numbers on a screen rather than what a player does on the pitch… My country sucks and can almost never qualify for the World Cup so I follow Brazil for their beautiful style of play. As a Brazil fan, that game vs France in 06 was one of the most heartbreaking matches I’ve ever seen and it was all because of Zidane. He was basically a one man army in the center of the park. Yes he got an assist that game, but everything he did before and after the assist was more impressive. It was a masterclass of midfield play. It also serves as a perfect example of why stats aren’t the be all and end all.

Does anyone noticed the dog😬😬😬😬

Giroud is class until he’s playing for your team

@zxcbbnm7552

6 ай бұрын

Chelsea, Montpellier, milan and France fans would disagree

Dude was a pain in the ass as arsenals main striker , god he was bad 😞

@zxcbbnm7552

6 ай бұрын

Wrong, arsenal are just bad

Played best as sub. Period.

an assist came from the north american influence. hockey always mentioned assists

Assist became a thing when Messi does it. Now GA and goal involvement is as important as G and they value player by their GA.

I'm sure the Assist was something adopted from the NBA - they've had that for ages. One of 2 things that the world of football adopted from American sports - the other being the names on the back of jerseys.

remember peak Ozil …

Assist it came from playstation fifa

Mesut Ozil

This Giroud revisionism is really annoying. Yes, he is good with the aerial balls, has a good left foot and his link up play is underrated. But you just have to ask an Arsenal fan on how good he is because unlike Chelsea, AC Milan and other teams, they had to deal with him as their main and only proper striker in the team. He was so frustrating to watch. Such a liability to the team when you try to fit him to a table. MIsses a tons of opportunity. Can't press for anything. The only people who pushes the underrated narrative are the ones who has only seen these highlights of a few of his outrageous goals.

No!!! Olivier giroud is actually over rated 😒

Micah Richards must feel embarrassed.. He's sat with 2 legendary players.. What has he done¿¿ why is he there.. Same as sky.. We all know why

@barcedbest

6 ай бұрын

Genuine question. Seems like you’re suggesting something here why is he there?

@mentlegen1016

6 ай бұрын

🚬

@AK-74K

6 ай бұрын

People like you see culture wars under your bed at night. Micah was a good, not great player, but he is an entertaining pundit, that's why he is there.

He's actually massively overrated.

No he is not underrated. Watching him week in week out for Arsenal, the amount of missed chances he had. Would go through purple patches, score screamers, but overall…no. If you took a highlight reel of his 10 best goals and his trophy cabinet…you would think he was one of the greatest. Those who have actually seen him play, know otherwise.

@zxcbbnm7552

6 ай бұрын

Cry more, he’s bigger than your club