I'm not even a huge fan of P-basses, but I'd do things that my family would disown me for that '58 Precision

@GeorgiaBoy1961

4 жыл бұрын

Clive, I used to own a Fender reissue 58 P-Bass with gold anodized pick-guard, and that sucker sounded so good.... I sold it in a fit of temporary insanity and have regretted it ever since. I was played more guitar at the time I sold it and wanted a new arch-top, and you can figure out the rest... moral of the story, the '58s sound awesome, not just the old ones, but the reissue ones, too. Mine was made in the mid-1980s.

@MuammarHamed

4 жыл бұрын

Lmao!!! 😂 I don't blame you my friend I would too

@zanderascher8205

4 жыл бұрын

GeorgiaBoy1961 I have the Vintera 50s P, it’s Ana amazing bass, definitely not as cool as a real vintage but the gold pickguard is awesome

@theviper5952

3 жыл бұрын

Innit

@donnix1192

2 жыл бұрын

@@zanderascher8205 I do too, I really like my Fender Vintera 50s precision, especially for the price tag of 1000$ new it really catches the sound and vibe of a 1957-59 precision bass. I love the gold pick guard and maple fretboard, I opted for the sea foam green. What color did you go with.

That vintage Jazz has some serious tone going on.

@ethanlancaster76

4 жыл бұрын

Adrian Figallo the one bass to rule them all!

@del5582

3 жыл бұрын

I am on team p-bass, but there is something really special about that guitar.

@heyitsvonage2768

3 жыл бұрын

I'm shopping for my first bass right now, and was so sure I was getting a P Bass until I heard that specific Jazz Bass. Now I gotta start my research all over again!

@seabass3257

2 жыл бұрын

@@heyitsvonage2768 i got a p bass realized I liked the jazz bass tone better and got a jazz bass

Love em all, but that 61 jazz with flats is my kind of tone.

@MoPower2112

7 жыл бұрын

ya man that was my favorite!

@flowerdoodle2438

7 жыл бұрын

dasbear10 Same here.

@juancitolimon8743

6 жыл бұрын

me enamore

@rasakiayodele7479

5 жыл бұрын

Anyone know what particular flats are on it? The silks are like a light blue-green.

@WoutervanTiel

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah that flatwound vintage J really jumped out

*That* Vintage PBass + Flatwounds = Pure bliss That is the tone I hear in my head when I write.

@Chrissummerill

7 жыл бұрын

The10000lbGorilla the best of the 4 for sure.

@simonr7097

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah that tone is classic. Flatwound strings should get more love, they really complement most vintage basses. After all, these are the strings that those basses were designed for.

@kimseniorb

4 жыл бұрын

@@simonr7097 what strings are those? orange/red silk makes me think its either TI or Labella

@Terribleguitarist89

4 жыл бұрын

My old man set me up with flats when I switched to bass from electric... wouldn't play any other way now... that P-bass was killer with flatwounds.

@stefanoribas

3 жыл бұрын

IRON MAIDEN STYLE

I'm all about the neck pickup on a J-bass with flats, playing right up by the fretboard with fingers. *THICC*

@SamuelginTV

7 жыл бұрын

I love my J-bass with flats too. sooooo smooth.

@joshuaxlucas

7 жыл бұрын

Love of my life for basses

@funkatron800z9

5 жыл бұрын

That's me too rock on

@ethanlancaster76

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed, but I prefer both pickups full on and then I can move towards the bridge if I need more cut or to solo.

@draxlerchronicles5851

4 жыл бұрын

Did you actually just say 'THICC' 😂

The 58 P bass with flatwounds 😩😩😩 I neeeeeeeeed

@beatlesrgear

4 жыл бұрын

Weeellllll.... for the low price of only $50,000........................

That's amazing! The sound of the jazz bass '61 is truly exceptional, capturing the essence of the recorded version of Ramble On

Not noted, but certainly a factor in all of the basses' respective tones, was that sweet Ampeg sitting behind you. Certainly helps add to that vintage vibe.

@GeorgiaBoy1961

4 жыл бұрын

Duck Dunn and James Jamerson approve....

@jdanielcramer

3 жыл бұрын

I had to part with mine 🥺 couldn’t lift it.

The real magic of the j-bass emerges when you blend the pickups, neither full on but in different combinations. Try the neck just shy of full on and the bridge just shy of off

That '58 P-Bass with Flatwounds has such an unreal sound to it!

There isn't a single episode, explained by Jeremy, that I don't enjoy. These bits are always informative, entertaining and over all, very talent filled. Good job Reverb!

The new P bass sounds very similar to the new J bass. The vintage basses were worlds apart.

@barondavis5692

Жыл бұрын

I was thinking the exact same thing.

Thank you for playing a jazz bass and NOT only slapping. getting sick of that, whenever i see a jazz someones slapping and half of the time it dosent even sound good.

@TheXtremeDrums

7 жыл бұрын

Johnny S True, slapping in bass have become the equivalent of people furiously tapping a la van halen un guitar, very annoying and usually not good

@smeagolmazurenko5238

6 жыл бұрын

Cheshire CAT Scan ^this^

@christianhenry4173

5 жыл бұрын

First off The slap bass tone was used on a jazz bass so you can complain about it it's ok not every bass player is into slap music just like some basses don't use the ghost note techniques.

@josephdrach2276

5 жыл бұрын

Johnny S,I agree about the all too frequent slapping.Then there's the demos that avoid playing way down on the A and E strings and even less common the use of the open E string and it's first four notes.Damn! It's a bass guitar,not a guitar.Lets hear how it sounds with deep notes.Lets hear it do some bass playing with lots of bass in it.Not just high register,chords,and slapping.

@hoompaloompaa

4 жыл бұрын

@RecluseAndHisGuitar not better. But different

Nothing beats the pure noiseless thump of flatwounds!!!!!

That '58 Precision is incomparable. That tone, that growl, that sustain. Unbelievable.

the 61 jazz bass sounds like a bass that never change the strings for so many years.. :D

@MaceoLaban

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, And that's the way you do it!

That 58 Pbass sounds amazing.

I don't even play bass. I don't know why I'm here.

@Rhythmicons

4 жыл бұрын

Taste.

@tankslapper4686

4 жыл бұрын

Do you like it tho?

@Dr.Turkey

4 жыл бұрын

time to start

@Crip2Knyght

4 жыл бұрын

potato i dont play bass either but after watching this video im seriously considering buying one and learning how to play lol

@brushot

4 жыл бұрын

Ur here because uou want to start playing bass.

Awesome video. Would love to see how a PJ Special bass holds up to these comparisons.

Riff 1 4:09 New P-Bass 4:16 New J-Bass 4:23 Vintage J-Bass 4:29 Vintage P-Bass Riff 2 4:39 New P-Bass 4:49 New J-Bass 4:59 Vintage J-Bass 5:09 Vintage P-Bass Riff 3 5:20 New P-Bass 5:28 New J-Bass 5:35 Vintage J-Bass 5:44 Vintage P-Bass Riff 4 5:53 New P-Bass 6:06 New J-Bass 6:20 Vintage J-Bass 6:32 Vintage P-Bass

@vijaycharan3771

3 жыл бұрын

Legend 🙌🏾

@almerinofirmino6832

Жыл бұрын

❤

'58 P was the best sounding of the bunch imo.

@ireneruthfox

7 жыл бұрын

I agree. But the 61 Jazz is not to shabby either.

@UneedaMedicalSupply

6 жыл бұрын

The '58 Precision has a nice growl to it. Sounds awesome

@meow7791

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, in my opinion, sounds fuller, nicer, a bit thicker, really dig it.

@joebartlett3255

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine what it would sound like with SS rounds. I bet it’s gnarly.

The J with flats had an awesome upright double bass type sound to it. Great video as I just bought a P bass!

My big takeaway from this is to use flatwounds

that '61 jazz sounds so good!

I love the p-bass, but I gotta say that vintage jazz with the flatwounds has some of the best tone you can get.

I agree that the 61 with flats sound the best & of course it feels the best too!!

Great Video! I owned both but use my Jazz for almost everything! It's all about the neck and the 2 pickups for me.

Nothing like a Fender P Bass or a Fender Jazz Bass. However my all time Favorite IMHO is My JAZZZZZZZZ. The neck and t he 2 pickups do it for me. Great Video by the way! Very enlightening! Thank You!

Would have been nice to hear the basses with similar strings... Of course a modern p-bass with rounds vs a vintage p-bass with flats is going to sound radically different. What I'd have personally been more interested to hear was the american pro with flats vs vintage p-bass with flats, for example.

I’ve played Fender Jazz Deluxe for a decade and I completely love it. But the sound of that p bass with flatwounds is just... WOW

Great review!! Love the side by side comparisons!

Thank you. Great video. Personally, I liked the old P very much. But I understand that a good modern P is just much more useful in handling and tuning. And the price difference is sufficient to pay for many lessons from the best teachers.

Those vintage Precision and Jazz Basses sounded so good, man, the Jazz Bass on Ramble On made it sound a lot more authentic to John Paul Jones' playing

@treiko1160

4 жыл бұрын

well, he kind of murdered that riff with aggravated circumstances...

@beatlesrgear

4 жыл бұрын

@@treiko1160 Yes, he did! His playing was about as smooth as a barnacle covered rock.......... :(

That vintage jazz bass had the best tone!

@thenewyorkpauls

7 жыл бұрын

That one sounded best to me too

Definitely the 61 jazz for ramble on.I don't know what JPJ used for the recording but when you just played it , that's the sound I remember!

An EXCELLENT survey of classic Fender Bass tone. Thanks!

the newer jazz bass sounds better to my ears. but honestly they should have had flatwound and round wound for both the new and old

Will you guys ever do a sound tutorial on DIIV? They have an interesting pedalboard to say the least.

One point of correction, the P-Bass does not have a single humbucker pickup as you state at the beginning. It has a single-coil pickup that is split in two and thus it self-cancels, but it is still only one single-coil. You don't want to confuse new players into thinking that has a humbucker because it doesn't. A humbucker has two stacked single-coil pickups that by their nature self-cancel. Otherwise, a good video showcasing the granddaddies of the electric bass world.

Thanks for doing this video. Each bass and string type had its own voice, it's own song to sing.

Love these tone comparisons! Jeremy K...you're the man!

that old p-bass was in the chicago music excange video. Now that I think of it, their editing is also very similar...

@Reverb

7 жыл бұрын

No conspiracies here, we're just good friends, Boris! :) Thanks for watching!

@borisbishoff2505

7 жыл бұрын

I thought so! Thats really cool

@AJbassist

7 жыл бұрын

i am pretty sure reverb, is run in partnership with cme

@Marcike

7 жыл бұрын

Reverb.com Guys, what is the brand of those orange silked flat strings?

@kimseniorb

4 жыл бұрын

@@Reverb please tell me what strings were on the 58? I mean like PLEASE P L E A S E tell me?? damn

Great video! Thanks for making it.... Got a question: Some of the earliest electric bassists were former upright players trying to get an acoustic sound - or as close to it as possible - out of an electric bass and an amp. Many acts which had formerly struggled with lugging a huge upright around the country, lashed to the roof of their car or whatever, now found they could get by with an electric and an amp instead. Monk Montgomery, one of the three brothers and jazz legends - his brothers were guitarist John Leslie "Wes" Montgomery and Charles "Buddy" Montgomery on vibes or piano - played both acoustically and electrically. Any idea what sort of setup those guys were using to mimic that jazz sound? Flat wounds, probably, but what else?

@RedArrow73

2 жыл бұрын

An Ampeg Portaflex B-15N or B-18N.

I loved this review and now I have fender flatwounds in my fender 70's jazz bass and I love it!!

I'm surprised that flatwounds are not more popular. They sound great. Both the 58 Precision and 61 Jazz kill it. I have the American Standard J and P, and now I have to get some flatwounds. Any suggestions?

@hs5942

Жыл бұрын

Labella

I'm usually a P bass guy, but that 61 Jazz Bass has captured my heart

in an ideal world you would have both. But if I had to pick 1 I would pick the P bass because love it's punchy beefy sound and honestly fits almost every genre (not to say the jazz bass doesn't but is a lot warmer and mellow tone)

If you put the same flatwounds on that 2017 p.bass you'll get about the same tone i bet of that 58' precision.

The last year of felt mutes on the jazz bass were in 1963. There’s a black and white video of Led Zep performing how many more times (1969) with the felt mutes on his ‘63 jazz bass still on.

Vintage jazz with tape wounds is my life goal tone sound

My first proper bass after a cheap practice one was a P-bass. I judge everything else off of the P-bass now. I know the feel and tone of them and honestly love them. People give the P-bass hate in preference of the Jazz bass and i can most certainly see why, but i love the dull beefiness of them.

Thanks for posting this. I literally didn’t know much about the differences between the two. I scored a new Classic Vibe Jazz Squier bass this past holiday. 50% off. Bought it cause of the deal. I noticed the differences between the vintage jazz and modern jazz. Wow. That vintage version is too bad ass! But i definitely would have been happy either way. I prefer the two pickups. Seems like I can do more with it. 🤷🏿 I’m so excited. I know the more expensive part is finding the right amp setup. I know this is gonna be very expensive.

I think Jump Into the Fire was recorded using a Jazz Bass with tapewounds. I know Herbie Flowers used a j bass on nearly everything he’s ever done, and I’m pretty sure it was around those years that he used Rotosound 88 tapes

P and J are both indispensible instruments in any bassists lineup, I feel! I love em both. Of the four instruments in this video the 61 J-Bass was my favorite, and other than for the picking riffs, I preferred both with flats. In my collection, I have a "real" J, and a P "substitute". I have a 2008 American Standard J-Bass with roundwounds, which I've kept on forever and have let get dark sounding. And while I don't have a proper P-Bass, I have a 1984 (83?) MIJ Electra Westone X-700JB Futura Bass (Matsumoku made) which definitely doesn't look anything at all like a P-Bass in terms of body shape and cosmetics (if you're unfamiliar, go Google it - it's pretty wild), but it is functionally a P-Bass clone with a P-Bass shaped/sized neck/fretboard, and P-style electronics, which I've modified with a late 2000's American standard P pickup. It has Labella "Jamerson" flats on it and a makeshift foam mute. So, the thing looks 80's metal, but sounds 60's Motown. While I can't afford to splurge on an American Standard (or even Mexican Standard) P-Bass, or an additional MIA/MIM J-Bass, I do toy with the idea of maybe picking up a couple Squiers (in the vintage vibe series), so that I can have round and flat tones out of each instrument, or maybe even a third J-Bass to "Jaco" (as opposed to just buying the Squier "Jaco" with the plastic fretboard). Maybe it'll never happen, or maybe It'll be a half measure, like I only get one Squier, and forget the rest. Only time will tell. :-) But to conclude, I don't think one can declare a winner, outside their own personal preference between the two. P is more iconic and prolific, J is more diverse and flexible. Which one wins? Only the individual can decide for themselves. My winner, personally? For looks and feel, I prefer the P-Bass. For sound? I prefer the J-Bass. Overall? I prefer the J, but your mileage may vary, of course. Cheers!

@mrvantagepro

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, for looks and feel, I prefer the J, but for sound, I prefer the P. But you can't lose with either.

I've got a fender elite Jass bass American deluxe black I really feel comfortable with the jazz bass style

Wow, great comparison. Flatwounds sound so much better. Now, hmmm, flats on a Jazz or on a Precision? I just picked up a Classic 60s Lacquer Jazz to go along with my Classic 50s. Both have flats, now to decide which has the better tone.

What flats did u have on that vintage p bass it sounded amazing!

Fun comparison. Thanks for doing.

Thanks for this! Very helpful

The tone on those vintages!! SO GOOD!!!

I'd like to hear all of them with the same brand and gauge flat wound strings. I bet there wouldn't be that big a differences between the old ones and new ones .

I think i saw that gold-plated p bass at chicago music exchange's p-bass review. is it right? great vid by the way:)

I thought 1960-61 J-basses only had the stacked two knobs and not the modern three? Even on your website it claims the three knobs were introduced mid 1962.

@OldHickory357

5 жыл бұрын

They changed halfway through 61

@beatlesrgear

4 жыл бұрын

Approximately in the beginning of September 1962 is when Fender changed over from 2 stacked knobs to 3 regular knobs. No 1960 or 1961 J Bass has 3 knobs.

Nice comparo, really well executed. As to my preference...to each his own!

I've been trying to push myself into. P-basses for ages, and call me what you want, but I keep gravitating towards the power, versatility and growl of a jazz bass. I guess you can get the best of both worlds with a J as the neck pick up sounds reasonably close to a P. I'm a MM Stingray guy anyway though 😁

Sadly the all had very different strings like flats vs roundwounds - it would have been so interesting to compare all with the same strings.

That intro comparison was very helpful

I'm an intermediate guitarist but for some reason, I've been getting a feeling that my higher calling is to be a bassist. I've been digging around for info on bass guitars and came across this video, which was no accident. I think I might go with a Precision Bass but I love the Jazz sound as well. Any recommendations?

@CC-fi3pp

Жыл бұрын

I hope you joined our ranks my low frequency brethren.

I can’t believe it because I have always wanted a jazz bass. I have owned a couple basses in a pj configuration and always wanted a jazz bass but I really really like both p bass in this video

That 61 jazz is exactly what I want a good bass to sound......

I personally don't use flat wound strings so I don't know whether I have to attribute the woody tone to having a flat wound string or it being a vintage bass but either way I really like the woody vibe from it. If it is from having the flat wound string I'm buying one right know

I have an American fender frettless bass I bought new a few years ago. I swapped out the noisy thin stock Fender single coils "Jazz" pickups for "Bartolini b-axis J44J-L/S B-Axis 4-string J-Bass Pickup Set" these are a split coil humbucker pickup. It's now the only bass I own. It does it all for me. P-Basses are a one trick pony. Though it's a good trick.

Hello! Please help me! What's the brand of those orange silked flats on the old Precision? Sounds awesome...

Great Video though! What flats are on the '61 Jazz Bass?

good comparison keep up the vids!

That vintage Jazzbass is my kind of tone

That 1958 p bass is fantastic, had a great sound

Can you tell me which flatwound strings are you using on the 58' Pbass? They sound amazing.

@kimseniorb

4 жыл бұрын

did you find out?

I live for a Precision bass with flats.

@stefanoribas

3 жыл бұрын

Harris

What amp/interface are you using? Sounds great!

I must add The 61 Jazz Bass with The flatwounds! John Paul Jones sound exactly! I LOVE that 61!!!

Excellent demo. It's definitely the '61 Jbass. It just has that TONE all over the neck. Could it be the flatwounds? (No disrespect to the other ones. They obviously hold their own.)

Good Lord, I'm in love with that old Jazz.

YES, Ramble On!!! One of the best basslines ever

@joegordon7196

4 жыл бұрын

Dr Klenk And that’s exactly what it was played on-jazz bass & flats‼️

What’s the signal chain? DI, pre-amp, cab mic? Any external drive added or is this clean?

You know what this is a hard decision, I like them all!

Whats the recommendation for recording? Can I get a Jazz and fill the gap with pedals? I feel like I would get more versatility from a jazz~ bass.

I’ll just take a mustang PJ bass. That’s my preferred bass. It has everything I like. Both a jazz and a precision pickup and offset body with a short scale. Just perfect 👌

The clips at the beginning were invaluable. :)

What brand of flat wounds is he playing on the jazz bass ? Does it matter between different flatwound strings ?

I got both Precision and Jazz Basses at home. If your band has a Strat player, I’d go for the P-Bass due to their resemblance.

I am so happy that flatwounds are so popular these days. Why? Well, I play a Jazz Bass with EMGs or the original passive p-ups and every time I'm in a recording studio or at a gig, the engineer or soundman proclaim "your bass sounds amazing." With my ancient rackmount Ashly pre-amp pretty well set flat coupled with my J Bass and roundwounds I'm good to go making soundmen very happy in every province of Canada, down to the southern border of that Russian colony called the USA and across the pond throughout Europe.

Real bass player demoing basses. What a nice change of pace.

I don’t know between the precision American professional and the Sandberg VS4. I need help ^^

That '58 Precision sounds like an SVT!!!

Is a P-Bass neck really that much harder to play than a Jazz neck? Getting a new bass and am having a hard time choose between the two

It would have been nice to know if those are new strings also.

thank you for your test

I like the look of the Jazz a little more but the sounds that come out of any p-bass is the growl of the Gods!

Tat 58' P-Bass is da bomb, love the fresh maple fretboard neck