Precision Rifle Shooting Skills - The Supported Prone Position (bipod loading)
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Precision Rifle Shooting Skills - The Supported Prone Position (bipod loading)
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Please continue with this series. We all need this kind of information to be better shooters.
Really enjoyed this. It makes perfect sense when you show and explain it like that. Thank you
Awesome! I have been waiting for this series to start for awhile now. Thanks John
excited about the new series. Thanks for doing this John.
Thanks a million. Great video with great delivery. Be safe and happy shooting.
Awesome, thanks for this series John!
Good to see the recent range videos. I've already learned some skills (sling offhand, n keeping my elbow back when prone). Thanks, can't wait to learn more.
This is great stuff!!! Especially for someone like me who is just getting into precision shooting and is pretty new to bolt action rifles. Let alone shooting them in the prone and accurately. Looking forward to the next video, John.
Good straight forward video without a bunch of unnescary bs. Thanks, realized i was doing a lot of things wrong and i have been shooting for years
Thomas Haugland > Longrange Blog & Darrell Holland > Holland's Shooting Blog both have excellent how-tos on prone but you have distilled several techniques in the proper sequence very succinctly. The KISS principle without leaving good detail out...very well done Sir. Can't wait to learn you little gems in the coming vids !
Awesome stuff! Can't wait to see the rest of the series :)
Thanks for the tips Mr Mcquay , i finally reduced jumping reticle when dry firing and understood that wasn't un-proper trigger techinque
great tips especially with the aligning your body with the rifle.
Great series, keep ´em coming!
Good stuff John, more vids like this would be awesome.
Please do more of these videos John!
I'm looking forward to this series.
Enjoyed the video. Thanks.
Would like to see more of this series.
great video! very concise and informative
Brilliant video as always :)
Excellent. Looking forward now to seeing a how-to on the art of the sling, both supported and unsupported if you plan on doing one.
Great explanation. Thank you.
aha! that explains what I was doing wrong the last time I went to the range. Still love my Remington 700! I'm hoping to save up enough to go to Camden TN for Precision Rifle training in a few months. Thanks again for all your help! =)
I have been dying for you to make this video!!! THANKS! I am trained in Olympic 3P style, but that is very different than .308
Great video
This taught me a couple things! Thanks John. I look forward to seeing other stuff Ive been doing wrong lol
Thanks for this video.
Very clear and concise explanation. If you don't teach already, you should.
Digging your videos man.
Good points. I'm terrible for getting prone at an angle, and letting the recoil jump the rifle off to the right. It's just a .308 with half the kick of my 7WSM but my poor posture defeats me. All goes back to the basics. Nice clear video!
That was very help full.
Thank you from the helpful video!! .. in the next video if you can touch on how to keep the bipod from jumping with recoil that would be awesome!
Excellent. And like jsm666 I would like to seeing the art of the sling as I am into aperture sights and shooting prone off the elbows. Please include positioning of the spotting scope. This is a great channel I will recommend it to the other shooters at my rifle club.
Thanks for the great information! Would you please go into detail about the firing hand and finger placement(s), motion(s) during the shooting sequence for both bolt and gas guns? Thanks in advance!
Excellent
Awesome, a precision skills series from a MOS 8541. Something to look forward to, each episode. John, can you explain the physics of loading the bi-pod, how it affects the shot?
More please!
How do i determine what adjustable height of bipod legs to get (standard or tall).
This is great I see too many guys at the range throwing money away because they lack basic marksmanship principles. I used to love grass week because I could watch my Marines and get them squared away without the pressure of the range. I also enjoyed grass week as it gave me as a shooter time to build back those basic fundamentals of marksmanship. That gives you a solid foundation. The other thing I see is people on the range who jack a shot and they crumble over 1 bad round when the reality is they have been dickin up a bunch of thingsbefore that trigger pull happens.
Great!
Thanks for the video. I wish you would have covered head positioning. Do you rest the full weight of your head on the stock or just barely touch your face to it?
About loading the bipod. I have a 16lb 338 that allows me to load the bipod as described in the video. Also have a 14lb 338 that just scoots along the ground with minimal load. What to do?? Pull gun into the pocket??
What ever happened to this series of videos?
You just did something in 3 minutes that I couldn't get out of 5 hours of reading Snipers Hide.
I will admit...When I fired prone. I would hold the magazine and not the stock (I fire with an AR-10 with a Bipod just FYI). But I hold the mag just to adjust the aim not grabbing it hard is that wrong to do that? I fire 1 round every 7 to 10 seconds average. When I fire kneeling or standing, I always grab it by the barrel.
More plz on this position
Nice
Hi great vid John. Do you have any tips for relaxing the muscles? I find that when I remain on target for over 20 seconds or so, my muscles start to tense up and shake.
hows the new caldwell ar prone bipod 7to10
I find that it hurts my collar bone to shoot prone with my .308. Am I shooting incorrectly? Does the buttstock rest on the collar bone or below? Maybe off to the right?
More tips on this please
Does any steps change if you are using a self-loader? ala ar10, lr308
John/8541 Tactical team, great video! Thanks for posting it. Quick question-- do you have any recommendations for a modified prone position, for those of us with bad lower backs? I'm not sure how many variations there are, but I've heard bringing one knee up helps a little. Thanks again!
Thanks very much for the video John! I have been experimenting with supporting the for end of my rifle (rem sendero 7mm Rem Mag) to help maintain sight picture and hopefully shoot more accurately, in your experience are there any negative side effects to for end support on a rifle? Second question; would i be better to install a break to help maintain sight picture and stick with the system as shown in your video?
I'm surprised no good videos explaining the prone position existed till now...
Love your videos. Have you thought about packaging them into a DVD and selling your instruction series?
@shumardi1
7 жыл бұрын
trickyric67 that is a good idea. I am sure there would be plenty of interest.
So this is over a year old and I'm still waiting for the next one.
What kind of rear bag are you using?
John, what do you think about off-axis prone position? I found it much more comfortable to lay down like this: | / / because of shoulder pocket and head/stock position. And you say it's better to lay like this: | | | kinda straight. But its not that comfortable to me. Sorry fo crude ascii graphics :)
I searched around for that "shooting skills series" and found none. Where are they?
didnt you preload bipod with a little too much tension?
I have a Remington 770 .308 with installed optic and bipod. I plan on firing from a prone position to become as accurate as possible. If I'm shooting at an outdoor range will it be frowned upon or anything to shoot from this position?
@8541tactical
10 жыл бұрын
That will depend on the rules of your particular range.
What bag rest are you using under the stock?
***** will it be harder to prone if your short and also how do you get that awesome beard?
what stock is that? is it made for rem 700 long action?
What scope is that?
Where's the 'rest of the shooting skills series'?
How would this work if you have you 30 round mag on a S&W MP 15? Reason I am asking you sunk in pretty low there. Also how would I break the habit of bringing me elbows in and remaining high?
@chifetish
9 жыл бұрын
Manuel Pena It doesn't. That's why you use a 20rd mag.
> harder to maintain sight picture through recoil Yep, that's what I've found too, Thanks!
Excellent video. Regarding loading the bipod, are the principles the same if you're shooting off a concrete bench?
@8541tactical
7 жыл бұрын
+Bobby Danger yes. However I find that on the bench it is harder to get consistent resistance on the stock. I generally shoot a bipod more accurately from prone.
@MikeDamone
7 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
I have that same problem
Why haven’t you done more? Good video short and to the point.
@8541tactical
6 жыл бұрын
Scheduling. I am planning on more.
@Severyn26
6 жыл бұрын
8541 Tactical that’s great new. Thank you. You do great work. I also got the ess chassis with the carbon fibre forend in large part do to your feedback. They have awesome customer service at MDT. Again thank you and have a wonderful new year.
Still having problems when I go prone, that all there is left in my shoulderpocket is bone. All my soft tissue goes away when my shoulders stretch out. Common issue ?
@8541tactical
9 жыл бұрын
Machinshin I don't think you are feeling bone. It is probably connective tissue. That is pretty common. There should still be an indent there. That is where you want to place the buttpad of the stock.
@KristofferEngstrom
9 жыл бұрын
***** Thank you for your fast answer. I will continue to try finding the correct spot where to put the stock. Will also look into maybe changing the recoil pad to a softer one if it stills dings me up. Cheers
@jimmiedow
9 жыл бұрын
Machinshin I'm also having trouble sinking the butt pad into my shoulder in prone. There is no flat surface to mount against when I am all the way down on the ground. I end up with just the top corner of the butt supported directly against my collarbone or digging into the top of my peck muscle. I want to try a monte carlo style stock with higher cheekpiece but that might make it worse.
I do have a question about the prone position... Many, many years ago when I used to shoot NRA matches (small bore 4 position and high power) we were taught to angle your body 30° degree or so from the axis of the rifle, bring your knee up to lift your chest off the ground.... I have been seeing in many other videos and even in military training where they are now teaching just what you show... In line with the rifle... I have never tried the in line position as its always been habit to use the angled position and its now muscle memory... My question is why the change and what are the benefits? Is the inline more stable? Doesn't lying on your chest make it difficult to properly breath and hold natural point of aim? Should I stick with muscle memory or teach myself this different position?
@8541tactical
6 жыл бұрын
The position you describe is still taught for situations where the physical condition of the shooter precludes a flatter position. The “angled” position may also be necessary to compensate for a rifle with a length of pull that is too long for the shooter. Military rifles are “one size fits all” and the length of pull on a standard A2 rifle is often too long.
@leavingcommunitstny3478
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!! Explains that perfectly!
*WHERE IS THE SHOULDER POCKET?!*
John, how do you like that Bobro mount?
@8541tactical
9 жыл бұрын
It works great.
Why is it recommended for toes to be out and heels down?
@8541tactical
9 жыл бұрын
It reduces any muscle input. It's more relaxed than trying to dig your toes in. It also prevents the shooter from pushing the rifle.
@firstimeshooter6590
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot I been looking for a straight answer.
whats wrong with dragging the rifle toward you?
@8541tactical
7 жыл бұрын
+Lightening3034 it takes the "preload" out of the bipod and on many (like the Harris) you run the risk of folding the legs.
Make a tutorial for shooting prone UNASSISTED PLS! No one has done Olympic style, that’s shooting without tripods or beanbags for stability. Just you and the rifle.
It is good that we both like our shooting sports, don't get me wrong. Yes precision supported shooting is hard, I know that. But it is more of a test of equipment, ammo loads, tech tech tech. NRA smallbore and Highpower is more of a test of YOU. the shooter, not just a trigger puller. Your body and brain are tested. That is why it is an athletic sport in the NCAA, and Olympics.
Who is "our?" You keep saying our and yet you're the only one on screen.
gtg
Thanks for the video. I wish you would have covered head positioning. Do you rest the full weight of your head on the stock or just barely touch your face to it?