I was searching for reviews of the PM1440gt and really enjoyed your video and coverage of the lathe, so much that I ended up watching a second video (this one).

What a quality machine. I'm impressed.

I like the Cincinnati horizontal mill you've got over there on the side. I used my rapid feed for surface grinding small parts. My mill has a slotting head on the back. Wonderful tool.

Gavin! I was looking up the Precision Matthews machines, and then I saw you here. I had no idea you were doing this stuff. Awesome :)

Very nice machine, with only having basic knowledge I never realized you could offset the spindle rotation for using a boring bar, iI find it incredible all the different adjustments/functions that can be made and utilized with such a machine. Thanks for the video Gavin 😎👍.

With a d.r.o., you can just move the table a little bit when retracting the boring bar.This way you can come back to zero and not mess up the boring bar setting.

Great video! Thanks for showing off your mill.

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike!

Good equipment by an outstanding builder, you do outstanding work

cool, just found your channel! Thanks for the information. Just the right mix for newbies like myself looking at a milling machine!

Nice Mill!!

Very envious! Great video, too.

Thank you for doing this! Much appreciated! :)

Very cool! Thanks Gavin!

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

Greg Truchot thanks Greg!

You have a great future Gavin

Everything nice and tidy so work more efficient Good video

Thanks for the video. Would love to see some projects done on it

Nice machine!

Thanks for the video, Gavin. Nothing has changed since we talked at the beginning of the month in Florida; I am still planning on getting the same mill as you have there. I just have to wait for the right time to sweet talk Mama and let her think it's her idea. Lol. When I do pull the trigger on it, I will definitely be reaching out to you on what other accessories I need to get with it. Fantastic video!!

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

Robert Hall Awesome! Worth the wait, and I’m sure you’ll love it! Such a great mill....

@jonasbruzas2651

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader do you registered in facebook?

Great job 👍

I like that machine. Different seeing a new or fairly new machine on KZread, usually well used machines. The higher RPM got the job done quicker however it sure did throw the chips all over. I have not watched all you machine videos since I came to your channel via your firearms channel. One question, where is your Gerstner box. Great job of teaching us, Gavin. BTW, I am sure you have seen ATOM79 and Mrpete222 on here as well. I like those two guys a lot, learning a lot from them. Over time I have watched many, many machine and machine related videos. Any, thanks for all your great content.

Great video! I'm getting ready to buy the smaller brother of this mill, the PM935. My shop space has finished ceiling height of 84-85 inches, so I need the shorter height, otherwise I would be getting the PM949 as well. I watched your lathe video as well, and thought that both videos were very well done. I am subscribed!

@kylemichael2175

4 жыл бұрын

Letsgoshootin I have the 932M PDF. Love it

I like these videos. I learned a lot, thanks.

Excellent review!! Art from Ohio

Wish i owned one, had a place to put it, and tooled up to build the many fun things it's capable of doing.

FYI, the outer 2 set screws on the boring head should be adjusted to set the gib tension and left alone. The center screw is the gib lock which is used when making adjustments. I believe on most boring heads the center set screw is slightly larger. Great video as always.

This and the lathe video are wonderful. I'd love to see you build a gun from scratch using this equipment.

I like your mill! I just was wonder if your mill was like my ( I have a jet mill 10”x50”) that I got used the auto feed quill part was mess up. My auto feed quill on my mill works great now. After reading the manual for my mill found out the the clutch on the auto quill is set up for a maximum drill of 3/8”. So I looked up a PM949TV mill shop manual to see what that mill auto feed quill was set for it set for a 3/8” maximum RPM 3000. I was just trying to spread information. Hope you had a Merry Christmas and I hope you have a very Happy New Year.

That’s such a nice machine.. I was hoping to see more projects running it…Any plans ?

I run the PM932M-PDF with 3axis DRO, X power feed, and power feed head position motor. It is more than rigid enough for most of my gunsmithing work. With the right tools and feeds and speeds it can move some metal. Would love to have your mill though lol

Nice!

Gavin, thanks for the review video. Are you still happy with the mill? I am contemplating buying a PM 949 also.

That set of drill bits in the top of the machinist's chest looks like the same "free gift" set I got from Grizzly several years ago. The cheap case is falling apart on me at this point but the bits have been decent. I wouldn't use them for precision work or anything but they have been fine for home projects.

Liked the video whoever I wished you would have pulled back the front way covers and showed the ways. Are the Y -axis ways dovetail or box ways?

Gavin, Did you order all your precision Matthews machines with single phase motors. If so. Did you notice any torque difference between single phase and three phase? Very informative videos. Thank you.

Good infomercial

Good deal on the ring, I was a bit concerned untill you removed it.

You don't have to lock the Z axis on a knee mill 99% of the time. The knee is sitting on top of the thread, preventing it from moving down, which is the opposite of a benchtop mill, where locking the Z axis is mandatory. Also, you should invest in a DRO for your quill and a Z axis power feed.

I've got a ce 0633 super milling machine it's identical in ever way. Great machine. Taiwan has a great machine.

I got mine a few yrs ago. They are a Taiwan mill, which is similar to made in japan or made in germany. Taiwan is a different culture and work ethic than china. They dont make junk but you pay more for it. Matt from PM is a good guy do deal with. I actually got good service after the sale. Something not very common today.

This is one of the better reviews that I have seen on a new machine. It is a very nice mill, especially for the price. Have the ways been flaked for oil retention? I would like to know about the knee ways, but especially about the X and Y ways.

@jimenz6548

3 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean Scraped?

@andyZ3500s

3 жыл бұрын

@@jimenz6548 It would be impossible to sell a fully scraped machine at this price point. The Precision Matthews Taiwanese built Bridgeport style mills have hardened and ground ways with Moglice on the X And Y movements. I don't know about the knee. Flaking has a scraped look to it but it is done to retain oil between the mating surfaces. Scraping is done to achieve better matting surfaces and also for oil retention. Scraping is very time consuming therefore it is very expensive even in production. After a piece has been ground it can be flaked in a short time period. Flaking probably isn't the proper term, its what I tend to use.

hello gavin i have a 9x49 2vsg atrump mill and it is the same mill as your mathews. in high range i go to forward in low range i go to reverse to turn the rotation clockwise. when i got the mill it was set up wrong like yours is. all you have to do to make it operate correctly is change any 2 wires in the forward reverse switch on the front of the machine very simple. it takes 2 minuits or so. i t doesent matter which 2 you change out of the 3 wirers. but i just thought of somthing my mill is 3 phase i think you said your mill is single phase thats maby the difference right there . well what i said works for 3 phase for sure. check with mathews first.

We need a giveaway where you build a rifle with a lucky fan.

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

Tyler R Great idea!

Very cool video. I have a question and it may be elementary. Why do you use the Z axis adjustment in the last demonstration, rather than just lowering the quill down and bringing the bit to the piece? I assume that may be it’s for vibration issues but it seems like it would be easier to do the adjustments from the top and leave the table in the position that was in.

Gavin I am interested in the tool rack you made for the pm 949 would you have the spec’s

I have one of their PM-45 CNC...although i have changed the controller to UCCNC...I REALLY wish they would offer cnc'd machines again, I would buy another.

@FractalWorkshop

3 жыл бұрын

People sell kits for most of their machines. pm-940 or pm-833 are the way to go for CNC. Also, if you contact Precision Mathews, they sell the PM 940 CNC, just not on their site.

Good video Gavin! Who is on the camera doing such a very good job? On that double duplex on the mill, it would look better (industrial) if you used a stamped steel cover. I know your a bug on perfection. Stay healthy!

I found your channel looking for info about a mill. If you have a moment, would you mind explaining why you bought 949 knee mill when you already had a 728 bench mill and why did you choose the 949 and not the 935? Since this video is almost 2 years old, is there anything you would've done different when purchasing a mill? Guns aren't my thing but subscribed just for your machining content. Thank you.

Previously was looking at a Bridgeport but I’m thinking it’s worth it to save a little more and go the precision matthews route.

@johanneslaxell6641

Жыл бұрын

Yes, that is a possibility. We where thinking that way to, but bought an old but REALLY nice and sturdy Shizuoka mill instead. ~2500 kg heavy duty machine with double quills, both horizontal and vertical possible to run independently at the same time. In our opinion ~12 000€/$ well spent...

I want one

Nice machine, like your videos. I'm not nitpicking, just wondering why you didn't use at least a center drill? Again I'm not nitpicking, I'm a machinist and just wondering.

Also called a dream

My shops handle for the pneumatic is stuck, you can’t pull it to the left to remove or insert collets - do you know how make it release?

On a Bridgeport, I thought max drilling in mild steel with the power feed is 3/8".... Isn't the clutch supposed to be adjusted to slip with anything bigger than that?

Dude! I see a trip to the ER in someone's future, if that tool rack is not protected from their skull !

@Ultimatereloader

3 жыл бұрын

:) I have since added padding to the end.

WE THE PEOPLE

why do you use such a long bar to hold indicators for truing the mill? to me it's not a rigid enough setup....

Why a knee mill, vs a benchtop? What are the advantages for gunsmithing?

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

I have a bench mill on the way and will be discussing that shortly!

It's called head NOD

Silver Demming bit in keyless chuck...not a good idea.

“If you’re mechanically inclined...” well, if you’re NOT mechanically inclined, you shouldn’t be trying to use a shop. Mounting a DRO isn’t the most difficult thing to do. If you buy a full size mill, then you should be capable of doing this. I did mine. You can do yours. It’s good practice for what you’re going to use the mill, and other equipment you’re going to have, for. You may not want to take the time to do it, and to just jump into using the mill, but that’s something else.

Used bridgeport or new PM949? both around $7k . Bridgeport is in extremely good (but used) condition. Is it crazy getting a used bridgeport for the price of a new PM mill? Or is Bridgeport that good?

@Ultimatereloader

3 жыл бұрын

I would say it depends on features (vari speed head -vs- step head) and also how much slop/wear there is on the Bridgeport. The PM-949TV is TIGHT and the turcite way coating make it work like glass...

@44Celt

3 жыл бұрын

For $7k I would expect a fully rebuilt Bridgeport [making it a more or less new machine] New cast Iron [Chinese] compared to old USA cast Iron is what make old machines worth their money . Cast iron moves over time unless its had time to settle [which Import machines dont]

@anon-yw4wd

Жыл бұрын

Taiwan, not China.

Just wondering the cost difference between that mill and a Bridgeport?

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

I believe a USA made Bridgeport would be about $17,500 + accessories, whereas this mill costs $6,999 + accessories (dro and power feed, etc)

@Timmyh60002

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader I like it!

@jimhumphrey

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader You are correct about the price of a new BP but unfortunately they are no longer made in the US. Maybe Taiwan (like your PM) or maybe China I'm not sure.

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Humphrey wow, didn’t know that!

@jimhumphrey

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader I think the last US made Bridgeports (Hardinge) were made about 10 years ago. Something about not being able to get the castings in the US.

The first thing i did was to change all feeds over to ball screw on the lathe and mill . No slack what so ever !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Can you make an entire stock for a gun on there out of aluminum say for a ruger m77mk2 short action chambered in .308 win and get it where it will take a detachable magazine?

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

M1A2 Abrams yes you could do so!

ID tag says PM-949V, not TV.

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

Yep, and the full machine designation is PM-949TV :) See: www.precisionmatthews.com/shop/pm-949ts-tv/

Chinese brand Milltech you can see the m on the casting sold by different names. Beautiful Cinncinati

@ahnuts72

4 жыл бұрын

Actually I'm pretty sure the M is a casting mark denoting a Meehanite casting this mill is made in Taiwan.

@roberteiler2989

3 жыл бұрын

Made in Taiwan, not China. The M denotes Meehanite casting as stated in video.

Good God man, slow down your spindle or crank up that feed dial.

Huh it's exactly like a bridgeport

You think the M is for meehanite?? And not...idk, maybe Mathews?

Looks like it's not secured to the floor?

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

Correct.

@Oldhogleg

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader Do you plan on bolting it down? I've heard the vibrations shows on the finish cut surfaces it not secured to the floor?

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

Doesn't seem to be an issue- and I have more research to do. Some say it's better for the machine to be able to "slide" on the floor in an earthquake, rather than a bolted down machine "tipping over" - that's my main consideration :)

@Oldhogleg

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatereloader No doubt, that was the other thing I was going to bring up. Having lived through earthquakes all my life being a California native, I'd definitely bolt it down, and I'd bore out those ½" mounting holes to accept ¾" all threads epoxied into the concrete floor. Either that or weld up a heavy duty steel rolling platform base with a wide wheel base so it'll roll with the quake while eliminating the risk of tipping over in the violent shaking and upheaving. But I do like your setup though 👍

@TTiger86268

4 жыл бұрын

being a tool and die maker, I can say that speed of milling is the utmost importance to not get marking on the metal, the machine itslef is plenty heavy, if you move it from vibrating, then your forcing it to do its job.

I never use my Z lock. js

That mill would be a lot more accurate if it was in my shop even if after buying it I could not afford any tooling I could promis I would go with out any thing not 100% nessasary. Like food diabetic meds don't need ! I will get by to get tooling and I see a income from what I can do with something like that ! I just want to live long enugh tell I can get that and the joy of making money using that ! Cept 🍺

Why would I want one of those toy milling machines ? The one thing it does have is significantly higher spindle speeds - I forget what the top speed is on mine - just (LOL!!!) had a look... H:1180 V: 1600 - so if I run at twice speed, that'll be 3200 - talk about flying cutters (you know, an 8" radious fly cutter at 3200 rpm....

I mean either way you better be mechanically inclined if you are a machinist...

Looks like someone painted a Bridgeport white. I really thought we would have moved on from archaic junk like this. At this point it should all be vmc's with conversational programming.

This is a tinker toy! Real machines use cat 40 & cat 50 tool holders, Nt these puny r8 collets!

@Ultimatereloader

4 жыл бұрын

Not everything needs Cat 40/50 :) I do have two machines in the shop with Cat 40 for heavy work. R8 is GREAT for gunsmithing...

Made in china. OLD machine. 🎉

@Ultimatereloader

8 ай бұрын

Nope- this one is made in Taiwan- big difference.

@zlatkobobic5029

8 ай бұрын

In design, this is okd machine. This i no more. OLD copy of bridgeport. But New machine is New machine.