Powering Victory: How tank engines went from 105 to 1200bhp

Petrol or diesel, radial or multibank, bus engines or engines designed for aircraft….. Looking at tanks, we usually think about guns and armour, but the best tank is nothing without its engine. In this video we look at the huge range of power units that have been used in tanks from the earliest 105 horsepower petrol Daimler engine used in British WW1 tanks to the Challenger 2’s 1,200 horsepower Perkins diesel.
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00:00 | Intro
01:30 | WW1
03:55 | WW2
12:44 | Cold War
15:39 | Modern Day
17:10 | Summary
#tankmuseum #chriscopson #evolution #tankengine

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  • @thetankmuseum
    @thetankmuseum11 ай бұрын

    We hope you enjoyed Chris' latest episode of Evolution. We'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments down below! 😊

  • @pvtmalo3217

    @pvtmalo3217

    11 ай бұрын

    A pleasure to watch. Chris is really settling in well.

  • @jamesberry3230

    @jamesberry3230

    11 ай бұрын

    no mention of soviet engines like the 6 cylinder opposed piston engine of the T-54/55 or the Abrams turbine engine

  • @Simon_Nonymous

    @Simon_Nonymous

    11 ай бұрын

    @@jamesberry3230 good points.

  • @sapphyrus

    @sapphyrus

    11 ай бұрын

    I love his clear and concise presentation, good work!

  • @gusgone4527

    @gusgone4527

    11 ай бұрын

    @@jamesberry3230 They are not part of the British story, therefore of academic interest only. What he failed to mention was the current plight of MBT manufacture in Great Britain. The failure of HM Gov to maintain a strategically vital industry.

  • @GreenAppelPie
    @GreenAppelPie11 ай бұрын

    Transmissions and suspension are just as critical to mobility. Please cover that

  • @valde3336

    @valde3336

    11 ай бұрын

    And steering. Each one of those could be their own episode.

  • @yolkiandeji7649

    @yolkiandeji7649

    11 ай бұрын

    “They’re not important.” -Ferdinand Porsche, 1942

  • @AKUJIVALDO

    @AKUJIVALDO

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@yolkiandeji7649and that's why we got Henschel Tigers...not Porsche Tigers LOL

  • @ExcavationNation

    @ExcavationNation

    11 ай бұрын

    I believe it's common knowledge and we combine them into the mobility department. That said I agree I'd like to see a portion of this video dedicated struggles the early transmissions had and how we overcame.

  • @Nikowalker007

    @Nikowalker007

    11 ай бұрын

    That’s true but most tanks have been designed around the engine and the gun…

  • @davidpope3943
    @davidpope394311 ай бұрын

    My paternal grandfather was all too closely familiar with the engine in his MkIV female. The underpowered and extremely smoky Daimler sleeve-valve engine used in the MkI to IV ~ was made worse by the military’s system of fuel allocation. The highest octane fuel went to aircraft, middle rated fuel to staff cars and transport whilst the grotty old 45 octane was deemed suitable to tractors and the like ~ including tanks. The MkIV did have a more reliable fuel delivery system in the form of the ‘Autovac’ and the use of a ‘proper’ exhaust system certainly improved matters for the crew, whereas the earliest models lacked any real engine exhaust system at all, the gases just venting through slots in the roof above the engine. The conditions must have been appalling! My grandfather’s tank was knocked out by a German field gun ~possibly a 7.5cm or 7.7cm ~ which detonated in the engine block, utterly destroying the tank and showering my grandfather in burning engine oil. Even though he passed away in the mid 1960s when I was only 6 or 7, I can still remember the burn scars on him. I’ve always regretted that I wasn’t quite old enough to actually talk to him about his experiences. Those first tank crews were real trail-blazers ~ real tough buggers too!

  • @ghxst7951

    @ghxst7951

    11 ай бұрын

    wow amazing story man, thank you for sharing

  • @toomanyuserids

    @toomanyuserids

    11 ай бұрын

    Many wouldn't want to talk much about wars. My uncle the F6F pilot was reluctant.

  • @davidpope3943

    @davidpope3943

    11 ай бұрын

    @@toomanyuserids Yes, that is true in many cases, but just occasionally I’ve spoken to veterans who will talk. One was my first mother-in-law’s for lack of a better term, ‘boyfriend’. He’d been in mine clearance and bomb disposal in WW2. What he saw and experienced in the Western desert just increased my admiration for the ‘greatest generation’. Being lowered down a well in the desert to remove corpses dumped down there to, let’s say, ‘pollute’ the all-too valuable water was bad enough ~ but many of the corpses were booby-trapped too. He was the only member of his squad to survive the campaign. Then again, there was the ex-Luftwaffe fighter pilot who regularly flew into the airport in the U.K. where I worked in air traffic control in the 1970’s & 80’s. Great guy. There was a Polish guy on the airfield who had his own crop-spraying firm using Ag-Cats if I remember correctly. We often wondered if there would be any lingering animosity if they ever met, but apparently not. They arranged to meet in the flight briefing office one day and the German guy said, ‘Ah, Ladislav! Let’s go to the bar, have a drink and talk about f-ing stupid war!’ And so they did. Hope springs eternal…

  • @davidpope3943

    @davidpope3943

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ghxst7951 My pleasure. It was an honour just to have known him and other veterans.

  • @paulmanson253

    @paulmanson253

    11 ай бұрын

    @@davidpope3943 Thanks for that. In particular, I wondered just what octane rating the period fuels were. A Model T Ford had 4 to 1 compression for a reason. I was told restored WWI aircraft engines work better with naptha gas,call it Coleman fuel,than with modern 100LL avgas. The burn curve of the petrol ,the very engineering designed into the engines is based on that burn curve. At least it makes sense to me. I knew a number of WWII vets when young. My father had no desire to revisit his RCN Navy memories. Some would talk,but only amusing moments. I do wish I had the sense to get those who would talk to speak into a cassette tape recorder microphone. There was a WWI vet with an amazing story. He was deck gun crew on a British submarine,and the U boat was shooting back. A shell had incomplete detonation at the seat of his pants. The splinters worked out for decades,he literally had shoeboxes full of metal from his body. His wife threw them out when he retired. With that damage,nevertheless his plumbing worked,he sired three children and kept a full time job. The only thing he could not do was go through a metal detector. Very matter of fact,that tale told nowadays would cause jaws to drop. I sure wish the full story of his service and his civilian aftermath got written down. Real survivors,they were.

  • @jona.scholt4362
    @jona.scholt436211 ай бұрын

    I'd love a video on "evolutionary dead ends" in tank design. Ideas that may have worked for a generation or two but didn't have staying power. The first that comes to mind are the oscillating turrets of the AMX designs, or maybe even earlier ideas about multiple turrets. And how many designs have you seen where there is a major secondary armament like a coaxial 20 or 30mm cannon that never makes it to production. I think this would be a fantastic video, or series of videos.

  • @samwise1790

    @samwise1790

    11 ай бұрын

    Obviously the biggest one is the entire concept and role of tank destroyers. Hugely important during ww2, they lingered on for a decade or so after before being entirely abandoned once mbts started being fitted with 100+MM guns.

  • @commandoepsilon4664

    @commandoepsilon4664

    11 ай бұрын

    @@samwise1790 I wouldn't say they disappeared entirely, they just started flying in the form of attack helicopters.

  • @86pp73

    @86pp73

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@samwise1790No, the tank destroyer never went away, it just became the ATGM carrier/overwatch vehicle. Many militaries still field those, in various forms. Fitting launchers for missiles instead of using a big gun is far more practical, as the vehicle can be smaller, lighter, and cost a lot less. Also, the fact that a modern anti-tank gun would be a ginormous 140mm calibre beast makes mounting a gun on any light vehicle unworkable.

  • @HunterSteel29

    @HunterSteel29

    11 ай бұрын

    @@86pp73 Also doctrine dependent. Some countries might prefer a casemate tank destroyer if their geography demands it (look at Sweden with the STRV103s for example. Although in the end they still replaced them with leopards.) But yeah, the TD never went away, it just swapped its big 120 and 150mm guns (if you're crazy like the Germans and the British) their 170 and 183mm guns for ATGMS on smaller and lighter chassis that are faster too. And then you have the US reintroducing the Assault Gun in the form of the M10 Booker because of Doctrinal Requirements. A nation's military doctrine (whether its air, ground or sea) determines the type of vehicle that country will invest in. So far in the modern world, Casemate Tank Destroyers like we saw in WWII and subsequently the 1950s (Like the JagdPz. 4-5) pretty much disappeared because we have no need for them.

  • 11 ай бұрын

    That is a good Idear. I am lifting that for my channel :)

  • @dunragit9578
    @dunragit957811 ай бұрын

    Really enjoying Chris as a host and his content.

  • @jean-lucpicard5510

    @jean-lucpicard5510

    11 ай бұрын

    Better than that battleship nostrils David who has a sharp intake of air between sentences. Putting you off.

  • @thomasknobbe4472
    @thomasknobbe447211 ай бұрын

    "Oh, bugger, the Boiling Vessel is on fire!" Thanks again for these succinct and informative overviews of important tank concepts.

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard170911 ай бұрын

    Tank engine design seems to be rather difficult; once an engine is finally debugged, there is a tendency to stick with it for as long as absolutely possible. You touched on it with the Soviet V-2 diesel, but the Ford GAA and RR Meteor went on to power tanks well into the Cold War. The Continental AVDS-1790 is a good Cold War example.

  • @jerryjeromehawkins1712

    @jerryjeromehawkins1712

    11 ай бұрын

    The Germans had an all new engine design slated for the Royal Tiger... but the Allies bombed the factory into oblivion. So... they had to use what they had.

  • @petesheppard1709

    @petesheppard1709

    11 ай бұрын

    @@jerryjeromehawkins1712 A good problem!

  • @tz8785

    @tz8785

    11 ай бұрын

    Car engine families can stick around for quite a while as well.

  • @calvinnyala9580

    @calvinnyala9580

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@tz87854g series from Mitshubishi are this very example. You can't find it elsewhere but Mainland China...

  • @emberfist8347

    @emberfist8347

    11 ай бұрын

    Some engines just work like some cannons which is another part of the equation. We keep using the same 90mm gun from the M26 Pershing to the M48 Patton and early M1 Abrams had the M68 our copy of the Royal Ordnance L7 (mainly because the planned 120mm cannon from Rheinmetall was still being developed).

  • @tetronaut88
    @tetronaut8811 ай бұрын

    Noo, It’s 10PM and I have stuff to do tomorrow. Looks like I’ll have to watch in the morning...

  • @ew3612

    @ew3612

    11 ай бұрын

    yeah, that didnt happen.

  • @kevincooney1014

    @kevincooney1014

    11 ай бұрын

    Y ?

  • @tetronaut88

    @tetronaut88

    11 ай бұрын

    @@ew3612 yes, it did. I live on the other side of the world, where it is currently 7:43.

  • @ket451

    @ket451

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@ew3612yeah no other parts of the world don't exist we all know this

  • @helgardtmuller2076
    @helgardtmuller207611 ай бұрын

    While working on a generator I have had to climb inside a steel box with an 8.1L diesel engine on load a few times. Even with hearing protection and sound insulation on the inside of the casing, it was insanely loud and I did wonder how that would have compared to a WW1 tank. My conclusion is it would be chaotic, hot and deafening, but I`m sure it would have been better inside than outside, barely.

  • @hansla8608

    @hansla8608

    11 ай бұрын

    Even being in crews of more modern tanks like the M60 and Abrams, being inside the turret with the engine running was deafening (hence why we wore our CVC helmets all the time). I can’t imagine what it would be like an early MkI or MKIV.

  • @andrewmatthews3199
    @andrewmatthews319911 ай бұрын

    Chris is such an awesome presenter and orator, he explains subjects brilliantly and im thoroughly enjoying his latest videos, keep them coming as they are outstanding! 😊

  • @captiannemo1587
    @captiannemo158711 ай бұрын

    On the L60. The multi-fuel requirement goes back to 1957-59. The US and Germany also agreed to it early on before dropping it. The L60 worked, but things got rushed.

  • @Jin-Ro

    @Jin-Ro

    11 ай бұрын

    Nothing to do with the fact that Leyland were an abyssal company and went out of business because of their systemic ineptitude. The L60 didn't work, it was garbage.

  • @user-qm5vn9zx7s
    @user-qm5vn9zx7s11 ай бұрын

    Very instructive channel. Thanks to Chris and the team.

  • @dennisswaim8210
    @dennisswaim821011 ай бұрын

    Another excellent presentation from the Tank Museum. Well done. I learn more with each new class, thank you professor. The Chieftain was one of my favorite British tanks to bad the engine was so unreliable. Britain tried to meet the NATO requirements for a multi fuel engine then Germany and the US just disregard that and went ahead with diesel powered tanks. Imagine how good the Chieftain would have been with good reliable diesel.

  • @dongiovanni4331

    @dongiovanni4331

    11 ай бұрын

    The US would go on to field the Honywell ARG 1500 turbine engine, which is multifuel a decade or so later.

  • @michaelguerin56

    @michaelguerin56

    11 ай бұрын

    The one and only export customer specified the Leopard 1’s MTU engine, instead of the Leyland L60, according to my understanding.

  • @emberfist8347

    @emberfist8347

    11 ай бұрын

    @@dongiovanni4331Yeah the US didn’t really abandon the multi-fuel requirement it just took a while to get one in a tank. The first tank the US used a multi-fuel engine in was supposed to be the MBT-70 which got cancelled due to many factors but primarily because the thing was expensive and there were disagreements between the US and West Germans who were co-developing it. The M60 Patton was put in service during development but after the MBT-70 got canceled, the resources were redirected to make the M1 Abrams which had the turbine multi-fuel engine first intended for the MBT-70.

  • @0809saline
    @0809saline11 ай бұрын

    I thoroughly enjoy Chris and his presentation - this was a really interesting video !

  • @jeffdayman8183
    @jeffdayman818311 ай бұрын

    Great video. I really enjoyed it. Would love to see more videos about internal workings of tank engines and transmissions and other internal systems. Cheers!

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward788911 ай бұрын

    Another excellent, informative video!

  • @AviViljoen
    @AviViljoen11 ай бұрын

    A brilliant presentation - well done!

  • @martinstensvehagen9161
    @martinstensvehagen916111 ай бұрын

    One of my favourite KZread channels. This is how a museum should use its material. How much we could learn if all museums took their own subject this seriously

  • @willkummer2639
    @willkummer263911 ай бұрын

    Quickly becoming my favorite channel, hope to visit the museum one day!!

  • 11 ай бұрын

    I think this was an excellent Video. The Tank museum is uniqly well placed to do such videos because you have all the important historical artifacts there ready and waiting as illustrativ aids.

  • @dondouglass6415
    @dondouglass641511 ай бұрын

    Another great video. As a REME fitter/mechanic in the 1980's the L60 was infamous.. Such a shame that such a great tank was let down by such a piece of junk in the form of the L60. 😢

  • @DJunclepaul2nd
    @DJunclepaul2nd11 ай бұрын

    Enjoyed this, thanks!

  • @scottpace8794
    @scottpace879411 ай бұрын

    Great documentary !

  • @nomadli2776
    @nomadli277611 ай бұрын

    This is a fascinating angle to view tank development history, Cheers.

  • @theflyingfool
    @theflyingfool11 ай бұрын

    Lovin' it!! Excellent series thank you!

  • @TheFoxEssence
    @TheFoxEssence11 ай бұрын

    This video is so informative, professional and well put together ❤

  • @manfacilitymetalworks1296
    @manfacilitymetalworks129611 ай бұрын

    I was the first person to drive a challenger 2 in service. I drove it off the transporter when it was delivered to the ScotsDG in Jan 1998.

  • @steven.ghodgson765
    @steven.ghodgson76511 ай бұрын

    great information and well presented - thanks

  • @AndrewMitchell123
    @AndrewMitchell12311 ай бұрын

    this episode was very interesting and informative, thanks guys... its sad there are no more Evolution series videos coming :(

  • @joaosabino2909
    @joaosabino290911 ай бұрын

    South Africa upgraded each Centurion with a 29-litre Continental turbocharged diesel engine and a new transmission adopted from the M60 Patton.[87] The refurbished Centurions were also armed with a South African variant of the Royal Ordnance L7 105 mm main gun.[87] in 1985.[87]

  • @android584

    @android584

    10 ай бұрын

    I heard the Rhodesians and South Africans were quite innovate, they designed world leading mobile armoured vehicles.

  • @mudbaconvideos
    @mudbaconvideos10 ай бұрын

    The quality of Chris' videos and the film crew's video production is outstanding, world class!

  • @Brendissimo1
    @Brendissimo110 ай бұрын

    I've really enjoyed this series. I think it's good viewing for both enthusiasts and people with no prior knowledge.

  • @michaelguerin56
    @michaelguerin5611 ай бұрын

    Thank you. Excellent video.

  • @antoniohinojos3808
    @antoniohinojos380810 ай бұрын

    Amazing, thank you for sharing!

  • @charlescth
    @charlescth11 ай бұрын

    The L60 was not V6 but a 6cyl (12 piston) twin opposed 2-Stroke engine.

  • @Welterino
    @Welterino11 ай бұрын

    2:18 I don't know if much of you lived in a city where it would get 40ºC in the summer but I lived. You can get all naked and not move at all and you'd still sweat like a pig on a bonfire, I can't imagine the disconfort inside one of those WWI tanks if it really got to 45ºC in there.

  • @dick8193
    @dick819311 ай бұрын

    Great video!

  • @markdavis2475
    @markdavis247511 ай бұрын

    Great episode. Really missing the workshop chats though. But Aussie Armour channel is a great substitute 🙂

  • @stco2426
    @stco242611 ай бұрын

    Excellent. Interesting to learn more on the third (mobility) piece. Thanks!!

  • @willtijerina5149
    @willtijerina514911 ай бұрын

    Fascinating as always!

  • @jamesschure1491
    @jamesschure149111 ай бұрын

    I was hoping to learn more on the turboshaft engine in the Abrams since it is so different from other tank engines, can you include that in future videos?

  • @davelloyd6075
    @davelloyd607511 ай бұрын

    Excellent !! More please

  • @ariebroek2404
    @ariebroek240411 ай бұрын

    Always great topics by very knowledgeable people. Thank you very very much

  • @ianmaw66
    @ianmaw6611 ай бұрын

    Fascinating video, thank you so much.

  • @ENGBriseB
    @ENGBriseB11 ай бұрын

    Excellent Thanks for sharing.

  • @ctrl1961
    @ctrl196111 ай бұрын

    Smashing video. Thank you.

  • @roygardiner2229
    @roygardiner222917 күн бұрын

    Thank you! That was most interesting.

  • @evz1979
    @evz197911 ай бұрын

    Your videos are excellent!👍

  • @ericbergfield6451
    @ericbergfield645111 ай бұрын

    Vert interesting history, thanks for sharing!

  • @TheNecromancer6666
    @TheNecromancer666611 ай бұрын

    In short. 1. Metallurgy. 2. Fuel Injection 3. Diesel. 4. Turbocharging.

  • @jaysonmarley284

    @jaysonmarley284

    8 ай бұрын

    5. Boiling Vessel without running the engine

  • @Mista227
    @Mista22711 ай бұрын

    Really like Chris and this content more please

  • @user-kq9fz7kv4h
    @user-kq9fz7kv4h11 ай бұрын

    Really enjoying Chris as a host and his content.. Transmissions and suspension are just as critical to mobility. Please cover that.

  • @probalkonwar7964
    @probalkonwar796410 ай бұрын

    Nice I enjoyed this video

  • @douglasmaccullagh7865
    @douglasmaccullagh786511 ай бұрын

    Great video and outstanding discussion. Any chance of a similar presentation on tank suspension? My fascination with tracked armor focuses on suspension, steering, and vision (slots, protectoscopes, periscopes, etc). Guns, armor, and combat not so much. Thanks for the education on engines!

  • @kenbrown2808

    @kenbrown2808

    11 ай бұрын

    I'd love an overview on suspension types.

  • @NicolasCorder
    @NicolasCorder11 ай бұрын

    When I see a new video by you guys I immediately click!!! I love learning about things I didn't even know I was interested in!

  • @brunomadeira8432
    @brunomadeira843211 ай бұрын

    Another awesome video. Perhaps you could have talked a bit about turbines considering the Abrams uses it (such a relevant tank in the last decades) and the Soviets also decided to have a go at it. Sill a lot of great content and I understand it is British oriented.

  • @aryaman05

    @aryaman05

    11 ай бұрын

    It's the Russian who adopted turbine first, right after WW2.

  • @danpatterson8009
    @danpatterson800911 ай бұрын

    I have the impression that tank engine application was driven more by "what is available" or "what can be adapted" rather than engines developed expressly for tanks. What would be the important characteristics for a tank engine- torque, the ability to use available fuels, reliability? Aircraft engine development during WWII was a furious race to keep ahead of the other guy- down to tearing down engines and sampling fuels from crashed enemy planes to see what they were using. Were captured tanks and other vehicles given the same treatment?

  • @johnryan509
    @johnryan50911 ай бұрын

    Thank you for all the top quality videos and sorry for not contributing before.

  • @timf6916
    @timf691611 ай бұрын

    Good information

  • @bikenavbm1229
    @bikenavbm122911 ай бұрын

    great stuff mobility an interesting topic, where I live I regularly see armour travelling past on transporters. A feature on transport may be interesting, prime movers, trains etc.

  • @jjsmallpiece9234
    @jjsmallpiece923411 ай бұрын

    A video on fire control systems and night vision would be good

  • @MAZEMIND

    @MAZEMIND

    11 ай бұрын

    I would also like to see that.

  • @henrycarlson7514
    @henrycarlson751411 ай бұрын

    Interesting , Thank You .

  • @simonfrederiksen104
    @simonfrederiksen10411 ай бұрын

    Well done!

  • @1992jamo
    @1992jamo11 ай бұрын

    I am glad you mentioned the Leyland L60. It's such an awesome and unique idea but was a premature technology. It has opposing pistons which meeting in the middle and fire away from each other to increase RPM and efficiency. A downside is that it requires two crank shafts. I wish it was developed further.

  • @Daniel-S1

    @Daniel-S1

    11 ай бұрын

    I don't think the technology was premature. Have a search for the Commer Double knocker engine, which also sounds more similar to the L60 than any other engine.

  • @1992jamo

    @1992jamo

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Daniel-S1 I haven't heard of that, I'll have a read. Cheers.

  • @webtoedman

    @webtoedman

    11 ай бұрын

    @@1992jamo Look up the Napier "Deltic" engines, the idea taken to its logical extreme.

  • @1992jamo

    @1992jamo

    11 ай бұрын

    @@webtoedman My Granddad worked on them! He designed the governor for the Hi-Dyne engines while working at Paxman Diesels, and then ended up working with the chaps in Lancaster on the DP1. Incredible, I had almost forgotten about all of that.

  • @frasercrone3838

    @frasercrone3838

    11 ай бұрын

    Some Junkers aircraft of WW2 has opposed piston diesels, the Jumo 205 and onwards. The design is more compact than a conventional four stroke diesel engine in that it has no cylinder heads or valvetrain so is more simple. Being two stroke it is at least supercharged and in some cases turbo charged as well. The two stroke firing also adds to smaller size for similar power output when compared to a four stroke engine. As for the Leyland unit I am puzzled how you get a diesel to run on petrol and aviation Kero with out the wizardry of computerized timing control or variable valve timing as a drastic reduction in compression ratio would be needed for the lighter fuels.

  • @OverTorque_Racing
    @OverTorque_Racing11 ай бұрын

    Great video. Curious why the addition of the turbine engines was left out. Lighter, more compact with increased reliability and power.

  • @ew3612

    @ew3612

    11 ай бұрын

    they were more complicated, less reliable, and consumed more fuel. He sis say it was more of a surface level video.

  • @aaronleverton4221

    @aaronleverton4221

    11 ай бұрын

    Because UK never used them and the number who did can be counted in one rude gesture?

  • @raymartcarreon6069

    @raymartcarreon6069

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@aaronleverton4221 they do have(or had) a Gas Turbine powered tank in the Tank Museum I swear they made a video on the T-80 and Explained it's gas turbine engine. Plus apart from Germany, Britain would be one of the first countries to get to use gas turbine/Turbojet propulsion for their aircraft, the Meteor, which would give them familiarity with turbine propulsion since Late war Germany even attempted to experiment with Gas Turbine Tank Engines with modified BMW-003s.

  • @aaronleverton4221

    @aaronleverton4221

    11 ай бұрын

    @@raymartcarreon6069 Please don't take this the wrong way, but your point about the T80 doesn't rebut what I said and I know all about Sir Frank Whittle.

  • @gregculverwell

    @gregculverwell

    11 ай бұрын

    I think turbines are a dead end with no advantages and several disadvantages. They are way more expensive to produce, fuel consumption is far higher than a diesel and no more reliable. They once had the advantage of being compact for their power output, but that is no longer the case. If the Americans produce a new line of tanks, I doubt it will have a turbine.

  • @thekinginyellow1744
    @thekinginyellow174411 ай бұрын

    I realize that it's not a British design, and that you may not have one at the museum, but I am surprised that you didn't close with the Honeywell AGT1500.

  • @dasbof
    @dasbof11 ай бұрын

    My favorites by far are the M4 Sherman radial and the Abrams turbine engine. Just radical yet effective. Always fascinating.

  • @emberfist8347

    @emberfist8347

    11 ай бұрын

    Honestly the Sherman is one of my favorite tanks not only because I am American, but because it shows how versatile a tank can be. From a standpoint of logistics having most of your vehicles using the same chassis or components is everyone’s dream because it keeps things simple. The Sherman was one of the best examples as you had many variants as tank destroyers and in other specialized roles but also because the main tank was fitted so many different engines and weapon systems and other equipment. It was like a blank canvas for people to make developments on.

  • @DrLoverLover

    @DrLoverLover

    9 ай бұрын

    @@emberfist8347 You mean the T34

  • @emberfist8347

    @emberfist8347

    9 ай бұрын

    @@DrLoverLover No the Sherman. It has far more variants to see service and had different engines fitted within during its operational life. The T-34 kept using the same old Kharkov V-2 engine the Soviets used in almost every tank from the BT-7M to the T-90.

  • @DrLoverLover

    @DrLoverLover

    9 ай бұрын

    @@emberfist8347 Yes, exactly

  • @johnstudd4245

    @johnstudd4245

    8 ай бұрын

    As an American I have just the opposite view. I always thought putting an air cooled radial gasoline aircraft engine in an enclosed vehicle like a tank, was a really bad idea for a number of obvious reason. I understand some of the reasons why they used it, and that monstrosity of the Chrysler engine, but the big Ford V8 was the preferred engine by everyone. But they had to work with what they could get. The Russians got it right with their diesel. That was one of the reasons why the T--34 was such a great overall package. Which history has shown us is the best way to go. Even recently there have been ideas floating around of converting the M1 to a diesel.

  • @andyinsdca
    @andyinsdca11 ай бұрын

    No love for the gas turbines in the M1 Abrams series? 😀 As a former M1 crewman, we got to love/hate the whine of that turbine running.

  • @gnybbe
    @gnybbe11 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @Eskeletor_210
    @Eskeletor_21011 ай бұрын

    I love the rumbling of the engines

  • @VileMisanthropy
    @VileMisanthropy11 ай бұрын

    I would like to here more about upgrades that were being worked on during the war that never made it into service like the Fuel injection system for the HL230

  • @cavemanballistics6338
    @cavemanballistics633811 ай бұрын

    You folks have the coolest tank museum in the world!

  • @Roll_the_Bones
    @Roll_the_Bones11 ай бұрын

    Fascinating, as ever.

  • @akmzd6938
    @akmzd693811 ай бұрын

    Three topics that I would like to have covered: 1) the effect of strategic materials (or lack/shortage thereof) on tank design 2) the effect of high-tech production/development capacity on tank design, and 3) anti-aircraft tanks and related vehicles, and how they relate to their conventional counterparts.

  • @emberfist8347

    @emberfist8347

    11 ай бұрын

    I would like to see a video on the most successful tanks in terms how many variants used in other roles like ARVs or SPAA were made.

  • @michaelszczys8316
    @michaelszczys831610 ай бұрын

    Some time back I watched a hot rod building show on TV and the guy had huge gasoline engine out of a Sherman tank. He had the instruction book from the tank and it described how to properly warm the engine up. Start up, run at like 2000 rpm for 10 minutes. That should consume around 8 gallons of fuel. I thought , what kind of fuel tank they have, 500 gallons? 8 gallons just to warm it up.

  • @ganymedeix9511
    @ganymedeix951122 күн бұрын

    For a brief moment I thought he was going to do the "your the best, your the best" Fantano outro.

  • @jona.scholt4362
    @jona.scholt436211 ай бұрын

    I've been loving these series that are more expensive.

  • @danielcruz8347
    @danielcruz834711 ай бұрын

    Legendary achievements of Sir Harry Ricardo 1885- 1974. ❤ Cool suave name!! Thank you very much Tank Museum ❤

  • @Fremlin
    @Fremlin11 ай бұрын

    I would like to see what was the major(in field) issues with all tanks and the ingenuity tankers did to fix.

  • @fuckoff4705
    @fuckoff470511 ай бұрын

    9:50 "after the bugs had been worked out it was fairly relaible" eventhough this statement is true it is kind of an understatement how reliable the multi bank was compared to other tank engines, it had the reliability of a car engine which is saying a lot. Once it broke down though it would take ages to repair.

  • @chaseman113
    @chaseman11311 ай бұрын

    Early tank engines are so unique. Either special engines got “dumbed down” like aircraft engines into a tank, like a Continental radial or Meteor V12 Or boring reliable straight 6 engines become a 30 cylinder Chrysler Multibank or Bedford flat 12. And some tanks even got engines meant for the job like a Double Detroit Sherman. Just awesome stuff.

  • @johnanon6938
    @johnanon693811 ай бұрын

    Love the film footage of the Whippet just blazing along a road until a tiny car just whips right by it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Kellen6795
    @Kellen679511 ай бұрын

    Would love to see more of this with other countries tank engines

  • @erichheyde5953
    @erichheyde595310 ай бұрын

    Great film. Although I am surprised. The turbine engine. In the M1A1 wasn’t mentioned

  • @m2y8v
    @m2y8v8 ай бұрын

    Tank you

  • @stilgarhammer
    @stilgarhammer5 ай бұрын

    I would like to see a complete history and information about tank transmissions and steering systems from many countries.

  • @sadwingsraging3044
    @sadwingsraging304411 ай бұрын

    Love that multi-bank.🤩

  • @PitFriend1
    @PitFriend111 ай бұрын

    Another factor with tank engines is also the weight. The heavier the engine the more the tank increases in weight and so the more power that’s needed to get it going. That’s why some engines were developed from aircraft engines because they are both light and powerful, like the rotary engine in the M3 Lee/Grant, the M3 Stuart, and the M4 Sherman, the Meteor engine that several British tanks used, or even the turbine that the M1 Abrams uses.

  • @akmzd6938

    @akmzd6938

    11 ай бұрын

    And weight distribution. If the engine is shoved as far in the back as possible, it'll exert greater leverage on the chassis than in the middle, where space is at a premium.

  • @TheArklyte
    @TheArklyte11 ай бұрын

    You gotta love how for decades the solution for finding a good engine for tank was "let's take a look at what airforce has right now and derate it" and then with the coming of jet age that just stopped... Also it's still fascinating how WWI tank era ended with 400hp Liberty and then that engine served through (at least half of) WWII like no big deal.

  • @colintwyning9614
    @colintwyning961411 ай бұрын

    Greta video as always. I wonder when we will see a fully electric tank?

  • @SF7PAKISTAN
    @SF7PAKISTAN11 ай бұрын

    Man I absolutely love the background music that you guys use in the intro. Anyone know what it is?

  • @jonathanbaron-crangle5093
    @jonathanbaron-crangle509311 ай бұрын

    Weird fact: The Russians have used a modified version of the German SLA-18 (Ferdinand engine) for their T-14 Amarta. But like the original engine, this also has been beset with problems, one T-14 breaking down on a Victory Day parade.

  • @xandervk2371

    @xandervk2371

    11 ай бұрын

    Thanks, I kept wondering where that engine came from.

  • @jonathanbaron-crangle5093

    @jonathanbaron-crangle5093

    11 ай бұрын

    @@xandervk2371 Learned via Lazerpig here on YT

  • @peterl3417

    @peterl3417

    5 ай бұрын

    @@jonathanbaron-crangle5093No they didn’t. Therr is no proof anywhere on the internet they did that except from some guy on a forum lol. Multiple youtubers even called him out on it.

  • @martinbarr9402
    @martinbarr940211 ай бұрын

    Man, I could listen to Chris all day. A wealth of information. I was hoping he would touch on the U.S. Abrams with the turbine engine. Great coverage otherwise.

  • @meh.7640
    @meh.764010 ай бұрын

    one doesn't realize the incredible hugeness of these tanks and their parts until there's someone standing right beside them who looks like he's been green screened in really badly xD

  • @VosperCDN
    @VosperCDN11 ай бұрын

    Great video on an important part of tank design. I never could figure out why they didn't turn to a properly designed diesel engine for Chieftain after the multi-fuel failed so badly at the start, but I guess there's a lot of inertia and 'sunk cost fallacy' so no one wanted to make the call (?).

  • @thewomble1509

    @thewomble1509

    11 ай бұрын

    It's a long story. If you can, get the Haynes Chieftain tank manual. The Tank Museum shop stocks it. It gives you a full and very interesting breakdown (no pun intended!) of the tangled development of the L60.

  • @R.Sole88109

    @R.Sole88109

    11 ай бұрын

    They should have put a Cummins KTA in the Chieftain.😉

  • @webtoedman

    @webtoedman

    11 ай бұрын

    Leyland were a small to medium sized producer of staid but reliable commercial vehicles and busses. Unfortunately for them, from 1947 to 1979, the British governments were tied to a "Socialism Lite" policy which involved amalgamation of firms in the same industry into nationalised entities, then allocating contracts according to non competitive, political criteria. Leyland drew the short straw. Why Napier, who had deep expertise in two stroke diesel manufacture didn't get the job remains a mystery.

  • @theromanorder
    @theromanorder11 ай бұрын

    Please do more tank doctrine videos

  • @farmaccount1653
    @farmaccount165311 ай бұрын

    I do like these videos. Not because I'm a warmongering fool, but because very often they cover pieces of equipment that I was very familiar with, or, one of my ancestors was. History (a very boring subject for many) has shown (dare I say taught?) that mankind can make the same mistakes over and over again, and that, on many occasions it takes the blood of heroes, villains and civilians to resolve many issues. A few have commented on the 'lost stories' of veterans, or, the veterans reluctance to share. It's been my experience that veterans will share/talk to either other veterans or younger 'operatives'. Organisations like the British Legion and other Regimental-like associations are vital for this. Thanks for the vid, and thanks to all those who contributed below. God bless

  • @canuck600A
    @canuck600A11 ай бұрын

    Would like to hear more about the development & evolution of various engines like the Meteor & others.

  • @WalkaCrookedLine

    @WalkaCrookedLine

    11 ай бұрын

    I'd be interested in the history of the Ford GAA

  • @emberfist8347

    @emberfist8347

    11 ай бұрын

    @@WalkaCrookedLinethe Ford GAA the long and short of it is that the engine was first intended by Ford to break into the aircraft engine market that didn’t work out. Their decision makes sense given their involvement in the automobile market and how you know the V8 us Americans loved were first made for aircraft for example. Specifically when World War II began the British were in America because they were in good terms despite the overall isolationism of the public in the latter nation. The British were looking for a US company to make the more complex components of the Rolls-Royce Merlin in the US for the war effort. The main problem was when they went to Packard, another manufacturer of luxury cars, they wanted to make the entire engine not be a subcontractor. The Brits eventually sent some production drawings of the Merlin across the pond at which point they got seized by the Treasury Department. Using the drawings Ford decided to break into the aviation market with a reverse-engineered version of the Merlin V12. There was a problem for Ford however. There wasn’t any demand. As the United States was preparing for war, the main customers would be the US Army Air Corps and the US Navy and neither were interested. The AAC was only interested in the engines from their established contractors. The Navy on the other hand didn’t want a V-12 as they preferred radial engines for their reliability since having a engine crap out over the ocean is a death sentence. However by this point the Army was relying on their established contractors for aircraft engines in tanks but with the war looming they were going to risk disrupting their supply of engines for tanks so they accepted the Ford GAA which is the Ford V-12 chopped down to serve as a V-8.

  • @dulio12385
    @dulio1238511 ай бұрын

    Armor, Firepower, Mobility this is what we call The Triforce of Asskicking.

  • @JaridMitchell
    @JaridMitchell10 ай бұрын

    That intro transition deserves an Oscar 😂