Power Levels in EDH - Analysis, Problems and Solutions | MTG Commander

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00:00 - Initial Overview
00:43 - Popular Power Level Scale I
03:52 - Popular Power Level Scale II
04:54 - Why most scales fail
06:08 - The Cookie Scale (TM)
10:59 - Conclusion
Popular Power Level Scale I is visualized interpretation of the work of Reddit User 'emillang1000' - / for_anyone_wondering_h...
Popular Power Level Scale II is visualized interpretation of the work of Reddit User 'OneOfThoseBeebles' - / the_edh_multiverse_a_s...
This video is unofficial Fan Content permitted under the Fan Content Policy. Not approved/endorsed by Wizards. Portions of the materials used are property of Wizards of the Coast. ©Wizards of the Coast LLC. All images used not owned by Wizards of the Coast are Royalty Free to the best of my knowledge, used under Creative Commons CC0.
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  • @satchmosanzabar9023
    @satchmosanzabar90234 ай бұрын

    Nice video! I agree with most everything! You earned a sub.

  • @MadcookieBG

    @MadcookieBG

    4 ай бұрын

    Thank you and welcome! 🙂

  • @matthewlowery5328
    @matthewlowery53285 ай бұрын

    My deck is a 9 on this scale and it does feel incredibly accurate. I played the most in the Navy during deployments. Out of the 5,000+ people on that carrier I never lost a proxy less game of EDH over a period of 16 months. It wasnt a serious deck but I was running all fetches and all 3rd E dual lands. The power and value was just too much for them. If they brought the proxy competitive EDH i would be getting washed consistently. My deck was mostly planeswalkers, and the main combo was Door to Nothingness, and abusing Unexpected Results to hit big. Only ran about five creatures, commander was Child. Feels accurate to me, I felt the same way but never knew how to describe it. Before this video i would describe it more as a bracket system of just low, mid, high, and comp based on the cards. During my games i came to the conclusion that i was winning with value instead of skill but that just reinforced the idea that EDH is more about value and interactions instead of skill. Unexpected Results into a T2 Narset, Nicol, Omniscience or Emrakul got me through so much. Entire deck was just gambling, even ran that red enchant that would replace a casted spell with another to go from a Vraska into Karn or Ugin.

  • @MadcookieBG

    @MadcookieBG

    5 ай бұрын

    Happy to hear that my scale works as I have been thinking over it (and the power level problem as a whole) for quite some time. Skill in EDH is very hard to measure because it is not just one thing that you can put your finger on. It shows in multiple aspects of the game such as deckbuilding, threat assessment, noticing interactions both during deck construction and at the table, finding lethal and so on. Still, I definitely think that skill is a factor. Possibility Storm is indeed a very fun card and can also be very strong especially if you build around it. The fact that it often messes with what the opponents are trying to achieve is just gravy.

  • @robertoso8796
    @robertoso87965 ай бұрын

    wonderful discussion. personally, when i see pubstompers i just assume there is some personality disorder on display that renders them completely oblivious to the rest of the table.

  • @MadcookieBG

    @MadcookieBG

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you for commenting and yes, unfortunately that is often the case.

  • @oneofthosebeebles
    @oneofthosebeebles4 ай бұрын

    I see you have referenced my work without attribution, and without indicating what changes were made, which is required under the CC BY-NC 4.0 license. It would be nice if you can remedy that by adding the required information in the video description. I also think that you have missed the point of my work. My site clearly states that communicating numbers is not the intended use of the guides. For their intended uses it’s not required for anyone but yourself to know about them. Still, I applaud any and every effort to try and help players overcome these challenges of the EDH format. And I am happy you wanted to use my work to facilitate a fruitful discussion. So thank you.

  • @MadcookieBG

    @MadcookieBG

    4 ай бұрын

    I try not to read or watch anything when making my videos as to keep them original as much as possible. For this one, however, I was curious as to what a new player would see if you search for "reddit power level scale mtg" in Google and visualized my impressions of the first 3 or 4 images that appeared. Now that this situation has arisen, it would appear that the 2nd and 4th images were yours, that they were part of a guide and that that guide was consequently published in a site/licensed there by CC BY-NC 4.0. I was not aware of that, I apologize and will credit you (as well as the other reddit creators I could find) in the description. Again I did not read anything past what was on the image file, but since you mention it I also disagree with not communicating numbers with others. I think that the point of having a scale at all is to be able to have a nice balanced game and it is difficult to do so if the powers of decks do not match and you don't talk about it with the group.

  • @oneofthosebeebles

    @oneofthosebeebles

    4 ай бұрын

    Clear. Do note that the CC license is in fact also present on the images themselves. I understand that you missed that. That can happen. Glad to hear it was not your intent, and that you’ll add the information. Thank you. In my experience, the fact that EDH is played in so many different ways at the same time is a very tough challenge to resolve on your own. I spent a lot of time iterating on my take on tools to help players navigate that aspect of the format. In this process I was helped by feedback of hundreds of other EDH players and community figures. I do respect your take on not doing research to stay original in your content, but if you are serious about developing your power solution further, it could be valuable to understand what came before. And although I am content with what I was able to achieve, I would love someone else to come along and do a better job. I wrote a primer about my project on TappedOut (it is linked on my website). Apart from sharing my own considerations for my attempts, I also list links there to guides which I used as a reference, and their original video or article. Good luck, and thanks for your reply. @@MadcookieBG

  • @MadcookieBG

    @MadcookieBG

    4 ай бұрын

    @@oneofthosebeebles I'm glad that we were able to resolve the matter as civil as possible. For the record, I do understand. I simply do not agree. Thank you and good luck to you as well.

  • @AbsolutDog
    @AbsolutDog5 ай бұрын

    all my decks are 7's

  • @MadcookieBG

    @MadcookieBG

    5 ай бұрын

    Mine too 😜

  • @julianberutti4169
    @julianberutti41695 ай бұрын

    very hard to understand what you're seeing without captions.

  • @MadcookieBG

    @MadcookieBG

    5 ай бұрын

    Sorry to hear that, mate. There are autocaptions, which should help for the most part.

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