POST OFFICE SCANDAL: Lord Advocate grilled admits 4 subpostmasters convicted after Horizon warnings

The Post Office has been stripped of its status as a specialist reporting agency to Scotland's prosecutors due to the Horizon scandal, MSPs have been told.
Lord Advocate Dorothy Bain KC, who leads the Crown Office, said the Post Office would instead have to report allegations of crimes to the police.Appearing at the Scottish Parliament on Thursday, Ms Bain also sought to defend the Crown from suggestions it should have been more suspicious of the flawed evidence from the Horizon system.
She has previously told MSPs that 54 people are thought to have been affected by the scandal north of the border.Earlier this week, the Scottish Government brought forward emergency legislation to clear the name of Scottish subpostmasters who were wrongly convicted.
As well as being the head of the Crown Office, the Lord Advocate is also the Scottish Government's principal legal adviser.
Ms Bain provided a further update to MSPs on progress on the Horizon cases on Thursday, after opposition parties had called for her to give another statement to Parliament.
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  • @patricktracey7424
    @patricktracey742415 күн бұрын

    many postemaster were unlawfully pressurized into pleading guilty so as not to go to jail.

  • @classicraceruk1337

    @classicraceruk1337

    13 күн бұрын

    True, pressurised by false evidence. This being the Horizon system was infallible.

  • @ronniemac2636

    @ronniemac2636

    3 күн бұрын

    Bain decided that some people were guilty and refused to help them. She needs to resign. Of course she won't given her affiliations with the corruption SNP

  • @edwardcampbell7513
    @edwardcampbell751315 күн бұрын

    She should not be part of any government.!!! She should be independent of and seen to be independent. It is an absolute disgrace.!!!!

  • @lindamillar2505

    @lindamillar2505

    15 күн бұрын

    Agree totally

  • @ronniemac2636
    @ronniemac263615 күн бұрын

    Another load of tosh and chronic deflections.🎉😢

  • @jamesburns6000
    @jamesburns600015 күн бұрын

    Thirty minutes set aside to discuss this national disgrace with people's lives ruined is nauseating. How can anyone trust this Lord Advocate?

  • @lindamillar2505

    @lindamillar2505

    15 күн бұрын

    You can't trust her they are all corrupt in Holyrood

  • @edwardhowie6102
    @edwardhowie610215 күн бұрын

    Yes I agree she should be completely Independent of the ruling government

  • @margaretwyatt6689

    @margaretwyatt6689

    15 күн бұрын

    I have always said this

  • @alexanderv7702
    @alexanderv770214 күн бұрын

    Presiding Officers are a waste of space! We want to know ALL the facts.

  • @stevesmall3750
    @stevesmall375015 күн бұрын

    She does not inspire confidence 😞

  • @stephenmurphy1111
    @stephenmurphy111115 күн бұрын

    Not very convincing or assertive as Scotlands no 1 law czar. How could you expect her to prosecute the SNP? Totally farcical

  • @patricktracey7424
    @patricktracey742415 күн бұрын

    Being a very senior solicitor her evidence was very shaky and she looked drawn and worried for someone in her position as lord advocate , she knows that she and the crown office is exposed to public scrutiny and that she may yet be held to account, criminally or civilly. Even when receiving professional police evidence if a prosecutor is not fully happy with the evidence supplied or sees any any weakness in the case then they commonly question the reporting police officer to explain elements of that evidence until they are fully happy to continue with any prosecution. she should have done so with the post offices evidence instead of just accepting there evidence on face value. she is now trying to divert her failings and incompetence by alleging that others are responsible for hoodwinking her this is what happens with political appointments, retired scottish police officer

  • @user-no9vu3np3w
    @user-no9vu3np3w15 күн бұрын

    OMG - talk about gross incompetence and a massive failure in the judicial system

  • @AnnePhillips-kj4kq

    @AnnePhillips-kj4kq

    13 күн бұрын

    What rubbish jog on.

  • @user-bc8ey4rz2g
    @user-bc8ey4rz2g11 күн бұрын

    How embarrassing, she comes across as weak, nervous and completely incompetent.

  • @patricktracey7424
    @patricktracey742415 күн бұрын

    Fully independent and yet she is sitting in the SNP benches surrounded by her fellow snp members. she has disgraced the office of lord advocate she is not accountable to the scottish parliament only the SNP

  • @blackislepeas
    @blackislepeas15 күн бұрын

    How many words are required to say aye or nay ?

  • @michaeltownsend1719
    @michaeltownsend171913 күн бұрын

    she is so out of touch

  • @jamesburns6000
    @jamesburns600015 күн бұрын

    So Mr Brown just read word for word from a piece of prepared paper seconds from her speech, it all looks so rotten and a set-up.

  • @Diana-007
    @Diana-00715 күн бұрын

    Oh dear there is no hope, role on 2026!

  • @sheilayoung374
    @sheilayoung37413 күн бұрын

    30 MINUTES ALLOCATED!!! absolutely shocking. And it includes her waffling on 😡

  • @dingleydell3250
    @dingleydell325015 күн бұрын

    Very well prepared and assertive as the Lord Advocate - NOT!!

  • @brunopetit9538
    @brunopetit953815 күн бұрын

    Does not inspire confidence does she? Is this woman really the best we have to do this role? If she is no wonder we are doomed. What an absolute joke! I had to switch it off after about 30 secs of her starting it was soooooo bad!

  • @taffyddu
    @taffyddu13 күн бұрын

    The gamekeeper must not be a poacher and the security guard must not be a convicted criminal. Unless it’s the SNP.

  • @leekitchen1195
    @leekitchen11954 күн бұрын

    Innocent people jailed to cover up an organisations reputation: disgrace

  • @bejewelledbirthdayparties698
    @bejewelledbirthdayparties69815 күн бұрын

    Am I watching a play, it's so well rehearsed. Sadly another example of people in power taking the jolly ..

  • @callumturkington5856
    @callumturkington585612 күн бұрын

    All in the same trough. They lack empathy and any form of understanding. They are overpaid judge and jury and should have this removed from their hands.

  • @mikemphillips7085
    @mikemphillips708513 күн бұрын

    What a waste of space!!😢 surprised they gave 30 minutes to the subject!!

  • @Liverpoolboy01
    @Liverpoolboy014 күн бұрын

    Basically the Post office said jump, and the law officers said how high!

  • @AntPDC
    @AntPDC10 күн бұрын

    She is serially incompetent: countless costly appeals lying in the dust, her bad advice to the SNP "government" leading to catastrophic, politically-motivated lawsuits. Her perpetually sad face, robotic delivery, hapless demeanour, say it all.

  • @johnmorris8417
    @johnmorris841715 күн бұрын

    I’d call it a circus but a circus normally only have one clown

  • @AnnePhillips-kj4kq

    @AnnePhillips-kj4kq

    13 күн бұрын

    Your that clown

  • @KevinParsons-of6if
    @KevinParsons-of6if11 күн бұрын

    Why after all this time hasn't Vennels received a prison sentence....it's so wrong...they shiuld not get away with this scandal.

  • @classicraceruk1337
    @classicraceruk133713 күн бұрын

    Even the PO said things SHOULD have been done differently. Lord Arbuthnot said this in his evidence in 2015 before the GE.

  • @jimmcgrath5103
    @jimmcgrath510315 күн бұрын

    what I want to know is was she dragged through a hedge backwards?

  • @stevesmall3750

    @stevesmall3750

    15 күн бұрын

    🤣

  • @alanthorburn5073

    @alanthorburn5073

    15 күн бұрын

    Well some folk find 1/4 of a million pounds a year not enough to deal with.

  • @lindamillar2505

    @lindamillar2505

    15 күн бұрын

    Looks like it She obviously can afford a decent hairdresser but can't be arsed.

  • @dadangus100
    @dadangus10013 күн бұрын

    Why does she read her answers..clearly preprepared to be used what ever the question..she is a incapable of thinking on her feet

  • @KeaneVincent-ws6kk
    @KeaneVincent-ws6kk13 күн бұрын

    Crown office over the many years took the word of the PO officials. Shame Crown office was so trusting and even lazy as no real scrutiny was made, Hope practices have changed for the better. Feel very, very, sorry for the all those wrongly convicted, and or abused in anyway. Disgraceful!!

  • @Liverpoolboy01
    @Liverpoolboy014 күн бұрын

    She sounds like a bloody robot!

  • @JudgeBluey
    @JudgeBluey3 күн бұрын

    There will NEVER be any forgiveness of these tyrannical Post Office personnel, Fujitsu, and ALL MPs who knew of the problem. They should all pay the ultimate price for their ineptness..!!

  • @alexanderv7702
    @alexanderv770214 күн бұрын

    "From my understanding ... ."

  • @jimmymcdonald426
    @jimmymcdonald42615 күн бұрын

    What a sham embarrassing

  • @AnnePhillips-kj4kq

    @AnnePhillips-kj4kq

    13 күн бұрын

    Grow up.

  • @jimmymcdonald426

    @jimmymcdonald426

    13 күн бұрын

    Really embarrassing

  • @neils4886
    @neils488611 күн бұрын

    It says here……..😂😂😂

  • @MrGsmiths
    @MrGsmiths12 күн бұрын

    totally out of her depth her answers are terrible, confidence in her is nil, she is a typical snp mp not fit for any duty let alone the lord advocate she is a sham watch her eyes she blinks continuously a sure sign of incompetence

  • @FissionChips
    @FissionChips15 күн бұрын

    Looks and sounds like workers playtime . . . .

  • @lindamillar2505

    @lindamillar2505

    15 күн бұрын

    A bloody mess of a woman

  • @roxylass1
    @roxylass110 күн бұрын

    A very good trained liar

  • @joanrodger352
    @joanrodger35211 күн бұрын

    She does a Sturgeon and answers nothing directly.Yet again no answers.

  • @neils4886

    @neils4886

    11 күн бұрын

    She’s reading out answers to FAQ’s typed out by a medium grade, pen pushing civil servant.

  • @michaelgallacher378
    @michaelgallacher37813 күн бұрын

    Bain must resign.

  • @classicraceruk1337
    @classicraceruk133713 күн бұрын

    Problems with Horizon were known from 1999

  • @judithmatthews8460
    @judithmatthews846011 күн бұрын

    This woman is about as effective for justice as a vegan would be advocating for a butchers shop.

  • @user-id2mp1hq5y
    @user-id2mp1hq5y11 күн бұрын

    Example of snp no answer

  • @trailmaker3
    @trailmaker315 күн бұрын

    What a sham! This isn’t enough time to get any legitimate answers to serious questions and the true scope if the question is essentially cut off. What a farce!

  • @daffytree2605
    @daffytree260514 күн бұрын

    Anyone spot Nicola Sturgeons best friend talking,draw your own conclusions,this women should be independent NOT in the snp front bench.

  • @vtechead1
    @vtechead114 күн бұрын

    If ever there was a more blatant conflict of interest going on, I’ve yet to see it.

  • @francesmcphillips6831
    @francesmcphillips683113 күн бұрын

    Time the Law Society stepped in. The need to investigate her independence she does not have.

  • @davidrendall5112
    @davidrendall511214 күн бұрын

    You should not be in a position as lord advocate as well as being part of an SNP government btw your voice is condescending hen 😡

  • @thesmallerhalf1968

    @thesmallerhalf1968

    14 күн бұрын

    ‘Hen’ is also condescending. How is a voice condescending? The tone might be, but this is just in your mind.

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