For anyone else it would be common sense to know that over 700 workers wouldn’t be stealing. BUT for a minister surrounded by corruption it would seem perfectly plausible.

@kristentaylor5359

Ай бұрын

sounds like she was getting a kickback to use the Fujitsu system, huh

as someone who's been falsely accused of stuff before, I think that the higher ups who ignored the bugs deserve jail time.

Disgusting behaviour by the Post Office 😢

@GMT439

4 ай бұрын

Obviously The Entire thing is all staged to push the Digital I.D. Agenda Along of course.

@jujutrini8412

4 ай бұрын

Disgusting behaviour by successive governments.

@shazoids

2 ай бұрын

Tory government you mean, didn’t they give Paula a seat on the NHS board.

It is indeed strange that there wasn’t some kind of an audit done to find out exactly when and how the money had gone missing. Considering the number of cases, numbering more than 700, it should have raised an alarm that something was not right some where. Coupled with the fact that complaints had been made about the system, an investigation should have been conducted right away but the people in charge failed to act. Other than just saying money had gone missing, the prosecution could not prove how the money was stolen by those falsely accused. Based on this factor alone, the judge should have thrown out or dismissed all the cases. Critical thinking was missing here on the part of those responsible for this injustice.

@kristentaylor5359

Ай бұрын

There was but not until the mid 2010's and when their audit found the system was faulty, they stopped the audit

media never spoke about it. if people complained why did the newspapers never spoke against it.

How much have Fujitsu paid to the postmasters who were held responsible for their screw up?

@davidroberts4398

4 ай бұрын

EXACTLY, THEY SHOULD PAY ALL COMPENSATION.

The people who were falsely accused should get compensation for what they went through.

To have so many post offices showing a shortfall, anyone with half a brain would see a picture developing that there was something wrong. Life changing employment choices SHOULD be made for investigators and all senior staff who KNEW what was happening. Disgusting

Shows what a joke the justice system is that it let this happen in the first place.

@masterlee2590

4 ай бұрын

Nah, it was cleverly planned... People have lost out and died and nobody is held responsible, Classic

Not just Fujitsu but the UK Postal Service should be held liable, including the CEO personally. They ALL knew there was a problem with the system and instead of repairing it they covered it up multiple times. It's disgusting how they treated those people

Thanks so much for explaining this to me.

the people who postmaster wrongly accused of fraud should be compensated with large sums of money and the people responsible for their hellish experience should be jailed because it is the just thing to do.

How could the PO not realise there was a major fault simply by the high number of shortfalls appearing?

@fotofigures

4 ай бұрын

Of course, they realised. They instigated the whole affair. It was money for nothing for the post office. Investigators who succeeded in getting the Subpostpersons to hand over their shortfall by borrowing, selling their houses received huge cash bonuses.

And the Post Office is fully and completely self-regulating without any intervention from the police? Hmm.Well that's absolutely not suspicious or anything at all. Once again it seems like a case of "My word over yours, and I'm bigger than you so there"

@EWAScotland

4 ай бұрын

Like the BBC licensing scam

I have always thought that people who look at an obvious situation and try to give a different interpretation - are either paid to do so - or - they themself are criminally bent - Nothing went wrong - this was a crime against the sub postmasters - plain and simple - and the perpetrators should go to jail and pay substantial damage

THOSE THAT BENEFITTED FROM THIS INHUMANE DEBACLE, SHOULD PAY ( PERSONALLY/ COMPANYS, SHAREHOLDERS, ECT, )ALL REPARATIONS, NO TAXPAYER'S MONEY SHOULD BE USED??.

Thanks for explaining everything so clearly to my left ear

This video got me to a point where I checked the warranty of my laptop and speakers. If you know what I mean :P ... I even doubted my hearing.

This is coming from higher up , they dont want state owned companies which is a stability pillar to the state it self

@lesleymetthews4590

4 күн бұрын

Absolutely it's from higher up,we are seeing the dismantling of state run sector.

Repentance is a step in the right direction. For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul?

@GMT439

4 ай бұрын

Obviously The Entire thing is all staged to push the Digital I.D. Agenda Along of course.

@joelgeorgeable

4 ай бұрын

❤

I have fond memories of learning about our wonderful institution the post office in Primary school. These memories are obliterated by the sordid tories and their destruction of our infrastructure with their corrupt and foolish privatisation grift.

I know everyone want's Paula Vennells head and so they should. But what about Adam Crozier's head CEO from 2003 - 2010 (the horizon scheme was introduced in 1999 so there is someone before him as well). Then there's also Moya Greenes head (2010 - 2012)

What about the Child Maintenance Services Scandal? 3 men per day in the UK take their own life’s because of wrong calculations!

@crystalcallicott9903

4 ай бұрын

Not heard of it

No doubt , the people at the top. Evil. Who wouldnt fix this without making these people go thru the legal process.

Such a shame, a T.V. drama made this happen. Not one human, ever, said 'no, the computer is wrong' while spending millions on the same computer. Says so much.

Then why those responsible aren't arrested yet???

I take that the british postal service doesnt have a dental plan

If more than one post office branch office ,had this issie, some invedtigation should have been done before penalising post office employees

Just deliver the damn mail!!!!

The fact I had to youtube an explanation is not something I am proud of but it's not my fault I don't understand.

Just watching the first interview with Stephen Bradshaw...what an rat haul his ass to jail along with the rest of them! This scam is outrageous 😡😡

Who bloody employees noticed bugs in the system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the post office or fujitsu?

GIVEN CBE BY FELLOW LESBIAN TERESA MAY

sadly this case is showing on a mass scale what they are also doing to some individuals who are currently in prison yet innocent...For example Asta Juskauskiene was given 24 years which she has served 5 of and yet is innocent...She was in bed sleeping at the time of the murder which was not disputed by the police...there is not one piece of evidence which exists against her yet she was found guilty by a jury...largely due to the CPS the police and a poor defence team along with the fact the prosecution used evidence against her which was untrue and would never pass any evidence test. Sadly this is the standard of some cases in the UK...in my opinion a very unsafe justice system.

Govt is responsible for that

Royal Mail has this cynical culture where any employee is guilty until proven innocent and all the managers are people that are in positions way above their station so are often insecure people. Add to that terrible IT systems that they always get implemented with minimal cost and therefore terrible quality it is a cocktail for disaster. I am very familiar with the Horizon system letting down Postmasters and customers for decades in my experience but it's no surprise that Royal Mail bosses bullied the post masters as they are in denial of their own short comings and always look for other employees in a lower position to blame knowing in their perception that they are not a threat.

@alexwilson365

4 ай бұрын

It's called IPS now, not royal mail. However this is just part in that rolling ball called profit.

Neuberger

how can they have said over 700 people nicked money wear did that money come from ? wear did it go it was not in there bank accounts ?

@Jackthesmilingblack

2 ай бұрын

where

If???

Sir Keir Starmer needs to explain why he did not intervene in the Horizon Post Office scandal when director of public prosecutions. Sir Keir, held the position between 2008 and 2013 before moving into politics. His time in the role overlapped part of the period in which Post Office branch managers were convicted because of the Horizon computer system showing that money was missing.

@martinyates353

4 ай бұрын

the Post office carried out its own private prosecutions! none went through CPS and Police were not involved! think about that...

@EdwardThatch-ee7yx

4 ай бұрын

@@martinyates353 You are wrong I’m afraid. 27 prosecutions were made by DPP themselves and the remaining 709 were private prosecutions of which under section 6.2 of the Prosecution Act of 1985, Sir Keir Starmer had the power to take over those private prosecutions. It is unbelievable that Keir didn’t know what was happening. There were not one or two cases but 736 cases!! 736 people were wrongly convicted and four people are known to have taken their own lives. So the question is what was Keir doing 736 times?? There are questions for him to answer!! Why won’t he answer them??

@martinyates353

4 ай бұрын

I stand corrected, I wasn't aware of the 27. The whole episode is a scandal and many politicians and civil servants are implicated! They all need to be fully investigated and those culpable charged do you agree.

@EdwardThatch-ee7yx

4 ай бұрын

@@martinyates353 no worries. The whole affair isn’t being reported correctly. This actually started around 2000. So there has been plenty of time to resolve this. It is a shame that a television show was needed before anyone did anything. But the same could be said for the Piper Alpha disaster, Grenfell disaster, Hillsborough disaster and the war in both Iraq and Afghanistan. No one has been arrested, no one held to account for any of these crimes. Unfortunately our country is corrupt and an embarrassment

@martinyates353

4 ай бұрын

I agree with everything you have pointed out, I recently watched the panorama documentary from 2015 this clearly pointed to major issues in the PO and here we are in 2024 😢😢

Seems to me, the real question is who got the money? Tories in power.... let me guess....

There is always reason for supervision of those foreign companies doing their businesses overseas. Through which should state action exist to watch over those for security and safety of its citizens.

Check out the EU angle on this scandal…

@lenawagenfuehr53

4 ай бұрын

Why? This was an entirely British problem. Clean your own messes - Brexit means Brexit!

time starmer's knighthood was reviewed, never mind his culpability for not prosecuting jimmyS. in this case why didn't starmer, as DPP, take over and close the prosecutions down, by 2009 there was plenty of evidence something was amiss, why were sub-postmasters victimised until 2014, by when both starmer and his 'special adviser on high profile cases' both out the CPS ?

The Post Office is a bucket of snot

This isn’t a Fujitsu problem, it was a post office management problem, but you explain WHAT has happened - not why.

@ibe310

4 ай бұрын

SHE SAID SHE WAS GOING TO EXPLAIN WHY WE ARE SEEING NEWS FEED POPPING ABOUT THIS SCANDAL NOT WHY IT HAPPEND.

People will always abuse a system... when they feel they can getaway with it. The sub-Post Office company structure... of allowing independent business owners access, to every aspect of the customer 'transaction' was always going to be plagued with people skimming money off it. The Post Office allowed this... but then it got out of hand. It became ubiquitous, even considered normal. A deterrent had to be implemented. It backfired. It's really quite tough to defeat human nature.