This is one of the best instruction videos that I've seen. Thank you for doing this.

@MasonWoodshop

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and leaving such a kind comment!

Everyone do yourself a solid. Get 2 routers. Save time

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Totally worth it! I grabbed a pretty good used router with fixed base only for just $40.

@Tool-Meister

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Absolutely get two routers. For dovetail work, fixed base routers actually work better than plunge routers. A “D” handle router with a trigger switch is the most convenient.

Thank you, thank you, thank you, I appreciate your thoroughness and simpicity. This jig is very intimidating and you made it so easy to understand. Thank you!

@MasonWoodshop

Ай бұрын

You're very welcome! That’s the exact reason why I originally made this video as it took me a while to get over the intimidation factor.

Thanks for the video. Just got one of these jigs and Im ready to dive into some dovetail.

Brilliant. Thanks! Love the 20% volume, 8x speed!

@MasonWoodshop

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I’ve always tried to manage the volume on router videos. Those things scream!

Great video. I was able to easily follow along as I worked using my jig. I am looking forward to watching some of your other videos!

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

Thank you for this clear and concise demonstration. It was very systematic, thorough and basic. Some people need to overexplain the process to impress others, you were interested in giving us the needed skill base which ironically did impress us.

@MasonWoodshop

6 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and leaving such a kind comment!

Awesome video man, very helpful. Thanks!!

@MasonWoodshop

29 күн бұрын

Great to hear, thanks for watching!

Great video and explanation. Thank you.

Excellent video - Thank You! I know these take time to make. I appreciate it!

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and leaving such a positive comment!

That was very helpful thanks for sharing

This is an excellent educational video. Thank you!

@MasonWoodshop

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and leaving such a kind comment!

Awesome video!

Best tutorial of this jig out there. Thanks!

@MasonWoodshop

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting!

A great video. I bought the base jig in '85 - while home on leave from boot camp - but have not used it in about 15 years. (Interestingly, there are no plastic knobs on my model; they are either brass or aluminum.) I recently bought a vacuum attachment for it at a trade show and decided to teach myself how to use it again. Your videos served as great refreshers - thank you.

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help, Nick! That's amazing to hear that the jig was available in 1985, really shows the longevity of the overall design. I'm absolutely going to check out the dust collection attachment as this thing is messy!

@jwar2163

2 жыл бұрын

What vaccuum attachment did you purchase Nick? I would like to find one for my 4212 it is an older unit and it too has the metalic knobs with steel knurl nuts x two on both sides where the templates lock down, possibly previous owner upgraded it who knows. I would like to add dust collection to the PC 4212 it is messy at the least, but it works.

Thanks for a great how to guide.

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

great video thank you!

Great video

Great Stuff.

Really enjoy your videos Cole. I’m a relatively new woodworker and have been looking at dovetail jigs. I was considering a different mfr but was a little concerned with the incompatibility of it to my router ( I have the same make and model as you). After watching you walk through the Porter Cable jig, I’m convinced that will be the one I buy. Thanks for making it look fairly straightforward! Keep making videos!

@MasonWoodshop

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and leaving such a kind comment, Larry!

Great tutorial

@MasonWoodshop

8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

LOL! I just bought the two of them (porter + bosch) before watching this video and then I see my two new aquisitions here.

@MasonWoodshop

Ай бұрын

Haha, enjoy them!!

@marvinracer88

Ай бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop thank you Mason! I just saw every guide you have about this. I didn't know I was lacking some accessories. Again, thank you for being so thorough.

@MasonWoodshop

Ай бұрын

@@marvinracer88 My pleasure! I went through the same journey as you, which then became my main reason to make a video on the jig + accessories needed. Thanks for watching!

Very nice.

I have that kit. Thanks.😊

Thank You.

Great video! Easy to follow along with. It worked great on my test boards but now I'm wondering how would you line up for boards for a box? Meaning, would you want the pins or the tails to the front of the box, do you have to number or letter the corners etc etc

i dont know why this video doesnt have more likes. great instructional.

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and leaving such a positive comment!

Thanks for the good video on this jig :) Im trying to find a good affordable set up to try and make some guitar speaker cabinets with these nice little Dovetail joints.

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! It can take some time to dial in the jig, but you can get some threat results. Good luck with your cabinet!

Great explanation Can you explain how to rotate the boards in order to make a box. Every video I've seen so far shows. how to make great right angles . Do you flip the board or rotate to cut the other end? Thanks JJ

I just bought this jig and am waiting for delivery. Your video is excellent, thanks for making it! +1 sub

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

That’s great, I’m sure you’ll love it! I have a handful of videos on this jig specifically, which may help along the way.

I have the same Bosch router so I to confirm I need to purchase the Bosch guides for $30.00 as the Porter Cable router guides do not work on the Bosch base. Great video

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Happy I could help!

how do you make sure that the two brass bushings are set the same length so that the template is not slightly crooked?

I followed step by step- used the 1/4” shank and it’s burning out? Like I’ll get halfway into the wood and it starts smoking. Brand new out of the box. I switched out for one of my old bits and it cut just fine. Reason?

Why would you not center your work pieces on the jig to prevent wobble? Thanks

Hey, i have to ask, since i do not understand hov it is designe, can this jig work in euro mm and If so which Bits should one buy in 8mm shaft router?

Hello, you’ve made a great and very helpful video and I appreciate what you’ve done. Now I have a question about the length or maybe it’s the width. I’m wanting to build my own bee hives. Most hives are over 12 inches wide. Will this jig cut more than 12 inches? Thank you!

@MasonWoodshop

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Unfortunately the maximum width capacity is 12”.

Nice video. I plan to buy the 4216. Did you have any compatibility issues with your Bosch router?

@MasonWoodshop

6 ай бұрын

Not issues whatsoever but I did make it easier on myself by buying the Bosch bushing kit which allowed me to easily use the Porter Cable guide bushings. I have a separate video on that set.

Great instructional video What adapter did you use for you're router To accept the 42040 template guide

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!! I used the Bosch RA1128 guide bushing set, which came with the necessary adapter - I think it can be bought on it's own, but I wanted the other bushings and the price was right. I have a video discussing this exact set here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKpp1ciFpd2Ze7A.html

@georgesantin5506

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks ordered the RA1128 from Amazon. Looking forward to using it

Great video and will be helpful for me to decide if I will get the value out of a jig. Could I ask, is your router 1/2 inch of 1/4 inch and what bits come with the jig?

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

The router used here (Bosch EVSPK 1617) has both 1/2” and 1/4” collets. The jig comes with 1/2” bits for use with the full size template as well as 1/4” bits for the miniature template. Most full size routers with 1/2” collets come with interchangeable 1/4” collets.

Thanks for sharing. Purchased this jig many years ago. I am still a little intimidated by it. You made it look really easy. Some fine tuning will do @10:51 what happens if some one changes that deep setting. Is that factory set or is there ways to set it back where it needs to be? Or can that be adjusted for the materials thickness? Hopefully I make sense. Thanks for your time

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for such a nice comment! I felt the same way about this jig (intimidating), which is exactly why I had put together this video once I figured it out. As for the depth setting, mine was perfect from the factory, but given that the top is plastic, I did have to calibrate it over time as the top wore down just enough. I found that I calibrated in the wrong direction first, then it took a number of other adjustments to get it right.

@rsanchez7111

Жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop awesome. Thanks

Quick question… new to this. Very helpful video by the way. Professionally explained. Wondering why you couldn’t just use the Bosch template bushings for the jig. Why are the porter cable ones used/needed? Wouldn’t they be the same size? I ask mainly because I can’t find the 42040 online and I was given this jig from a family friend without any bits or bushings. Thanks in advance.

@MasonWoodshop

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting! You absolutely could use Bosch bushings as long as they are exactly the same size. Each manufacturer could have very minor (hopefully no) differences which is why I used the Porter Cable bushings. Your comment made me think that even slight tolerance differences between brands might not actually be a big deal as you have to dial in the depth either way.

@liketheresalwaysbeen

7 ай бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop thank you for the quick answer! Ok good. So I’ll try the Bosch fittings first since I can’t seem to get my hands on the porter cable bushing and probably reference your video one more time before actually making my cuts. You’ve been very helpful. Thank you.

I made 9 drawers a few months ago (small half blind dove tails) and had a little problem with the brass adjustment nuts creeping out of position. I put a nut behind each brass nut to lock it in place. Problem solved.

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

That’s a great idea, thanks for sharing!

will this work with any router?

Did the porter cable come with the guide bushings for the Bosch router?

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

The bushings for the bits were included, but I needed to buy the Bosch adapter in order to use those Porter Cable bushings on the Bosch router. I have a video posted showing the kit I used if you’re interested.

I know you may have posted, where do you get the Bosch adapter for the Porta Cable Deluxe

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

I bought mine from Amazon - I have links posted in the video where I show off the set if you’re in North America kzread.info/dash/bejne/jKpp1ciFpd2Ze7A.html

Great vid - Using the 23EVS with PC jig 4216. My question is, what is the height of the "depth step guide" for through dovetails? Out of the box it's .880" / 22.35mm. And does it matter what thickness of material one is using? Thanks. New to this joinnery.

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

That's a nice router! The height of the guide may be set correctly for you out of the box, although I did have to slightly adjust mine and I do find that the plastic top of the guide makes it nearly impossible to get perfect each time and mine is already a bit chewed up due to router bits rubbing on it. My workflow is to generally use the depth stop as a starting point, then using some scraps (same thickness as my primary material, and thickness consistency does matter), I gradually dial it in for the perfect fit (usually takes 2-3 attempts).

@richardgorton2498

3 жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop So what is the dimension suppose to be from the step guide to the bottom of the jig???

@richardgorton2498

3 жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop The challenge is that with the bit shank 1/2" into the collet, and adjusting the macro to reach that step, the collet is just off the top of the guide bushing and the bit face is .250'+ away from the step. Doesn't make any sense to me. cant be this hard :-)

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

Just checked mine and for the full-size through dovetails, mine is around 11/16” from the top of the template to the guide. I’ve been working with various thickness material recently, so that might not be a helpful number for you. I really don’t like relying on the guide, so I’ll often adjust it for the project I’m working on through test cuts, then use it to set the bit after swapping with the tails bit. As far as setting the depth, the way the guy in this video does it (ignore the guide and setting to the workpiece) might be best: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4WgsqtqaLTKo5s.html For your other question about the collet, I have found that I can’t put the bit in as far as I usually do. I’d usually mount all router bits to maybe 1/8” above the painted tip, but for the dovetail jig, I’ve found that I need to keep the bit significantly less deep (while still ensuring it’s held appropriately well).

Can you use this with 1/2 stock? A neighbor gave me mine in great condition but I’m missing the bits and the collars. Can they be purchased separately? Great video I truly enjoyed it it will help me set mine up.

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and leaving the comment! I've used the full-sized templates (and bits) for 1/2" material quite a few times with no issue - checking the manual, I see that it can be used for material as thin as 1/4" for through dovetails and 1/2" for half-blind dovetails. The bits and guide bushings are available separately (check for the part numbers in the manual), but you can also use non-Porter Cable branded bits (and bushings) as long as long as they are the example same size/dimensions (e.g. 7 degrees, 17/32", etc.). I would say that the Porter Cable bits and bushings are pretty good in quality.

@chrisswartzwelder8494

3 жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop do you still use the same depth I believe it was 3/8? I am going to buy the 17/32x7 deg dovetail bit.

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

I generally dial in the depth each time I’m starting a new project. Partly because I use a variety of thicknesses across projects, and I find that the depth gauges aren’t totally reliable (cheap plastic on the top gets shredded by bits).

Ok I’m trying to set up my new 4216 jig. What is the purpose of the router bit depth stop that is affixed to the jig itself? I understand that a 3/8” gap is required on all templates but this other one is not attached to a template.

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the question! It’s been a long time since I’ve used the jig (I recall only using depths on templates themselves, or just dialing in based on the material), but I did just look at the manual. Unfortunately, I can’t quite figure the purpose of that depth stop.

Hi! Nice video! What wood the you use? I used regular plywood then lots of tear out and burnt even my router bit burnt turns into black.. any thoughts! Thanks

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and commenting! I experience similar issues with plywood - I usually only use it showing samples or building mockups. Most of my work is with walnut and cherry. I sometimes get a bit of tear on walnut, but it's usually quite manageable and on cherry, I get some burning at times, but those parts are always covered by the other part of the joint.

@jaimegenovajr3257

2 жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop thanks again

I too find that my assembled box is “off” a little bit. I guess I’m missing where you would measure the off set. It’s off just enough that it’s a pain to put the box on a disc sander to true it up……any help would be appreciated!! By the way….great job on the video!

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and leaving a comment! I haven't put too much effort into truing it up yet, but if I come up with a good solution (beyond the disc sander, ha), I'll post a video about it.

Great Video! My mini 7 degree 9/32 router bit which came with the Porter Cable jig needs replacing. Do you know where we can find a router bit to replace?

Are you able to use the Oneida router dust collection with the Porter Cable jig? Edit: hmmm looks like the guide busing system would prevent using the dust collection.

@MasonWoodshop

2 жыл бұрын

Your edit is correct, the dust hood would not work with the jig due to the bushings.

Is the template guides are made for all routers or just for porter router and bosch routers? Excuse my write, i’m frenchy boy

@MasonWoodshop

10 ай бұрын

Great question! It should work with any router that can take the Porter Cable style guide bushings and have the appropriate collet size for the bits being used (eg. 1/2”, 1/4”). Most routers either take those guide bushings natively, or in my case with the Bosch there was a relatively inexpensive adapter to take the bushings.

Thank you for the video! I’m figuring out my jig. Could you tell me how deal your bit measuring stop is set at? Mine is way too high and I can find in the manual where the one for through dovetails is supposed to be set at by default. Any help is appreciated!

According to the porter-cable site, template guide 42046 is a 5/8" guide and 42047 doesn't exist. So, I'd tend to think its a mislabeled guide. I bet if you measure your template guide "42047" you'll find its 5/8".

How wide workpieces can be processed in it? The strength is indicated according to the manufacturer, but not the width.

@MasonWoodshop

7 ай бұрын

The max width for workpieces is 12”

On the 4216 Porter Cable Jig. What should the depth stop be set at. On page 8 of the manual it shows the depth stop to be set at 3/8" from bottom of templet. I'm thinking that it would depend on which templet you were using.

@sebastian-daquanglocknerjr1883

2 жыл бұрын

Material thickness

@andyward3173

2 жыл бұрын

@@sebastian-daquanglocknerjr1883 thanks Sabastian

@andyward3173

2 жыл бұрын

Thank Sabastian

I would think that if pins and tails are cut proud (for a sand flush finish), the dimensions of the box will decreased accordingly.

@wulf67

Жыл бұрын

You would be correct, sir.

I am getting the complete blowout of the last pin. As I am new to this - first time running the jig - is it the speed, the wood, grain direction? I am using a Hitachi MV12. Any input would be appreciated.

@MasonWoodshop

10 ай бұрын

As long as the board you're cutting into doesn't take up the full width of the jig, you could but up a sacrificial board of the same width beside the last pin.

@bryanmoir3184

10 ай бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop does the direction you move with the router matter ie left to right or right to left?

@MasonWoodshop

10 ай бұрын

@@bryanmoir3184 it can and I’d generally recommend moving left to right with this jig.

@bryanmoir3184

10 ай бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop Thank you. This has been most helpful. I'll let you know after I give your suggestions a go in the workshop.

Is there any reason one can't set up two pins and tails at the same time in the jig? Seems it would make the work twice as fast.

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately that wouldn’t work due to the angled nature of the dovetail bits. For box joints, that would work in most cases but it could put a lot of pressure on the bit/router.

why not use the wood you are milling to set depth stop

I had to remplace 4 plastic nuts. That parts are a shit. I did all of them on my lathe , solid sluminiim

I think I'll continue to do them by hand in order to save time.

@MasonWoodshop

4 ай бұрын

It is impressive to see craftsman cut hand cut dovetails quickly! This jig is great to batch out panels once it’s setup, but it can take 15-20 minutes to get everything dialed in at the beginning.

@Madmaxian1088

4 ай бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop I've never done them by hand and I own this jig but never used it. That's why I watched your video . . but it seems time consuming.

could you place a second drawer pieces on the right side and knock out two at once?

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Good question, but I’d say no. If you happened across absolutely perfect alignment, that could work, but the workpiece is unlikely to register in the same way on the left. Even if you did the same for not tails and pins, it is a long shot for it to be perfect.

@pmelchman

Жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop I think you DT drawer 1 on the left and drawer 2 on the right they will get milled together but separate

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

@@pmelchman Definitely worth a shot if the drawers are small enough. With the jig being 12", you'd need them to be quite small.

Cuál es su valor?

dear ,can you tell me the model no. of bosch router which have compatible for this jig??? thank you

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

I have been using the Bosch 1617EVSPK, but I'd imagine that essentially any router that takes 1/2" (for full-sized) and 1/4" (for miniature) router bits would work with the jig. I wouldn't use it with a small trim router as it would be less powerful and the base plate might not be large enough.

@awaisbutt42

3 жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop thanks dear

I just bought one and found that the offset guides, both black and silver, are not square and true resulting in the pins and tails being offset in assembled height. Otherwise it's a really nice jjg. The pin offset needs to be set with a ruler or some other measuring device, not with the guides.

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing and confirming that I’m not the only one. I can never get them to be just perfect and I always thought it was because I didn’t align it absolutely perfectly with the vertical board. I’m generally close enough that a quick zip on the disc sander gets the box even, but I feel like it should be closer off the jig. Great call on tuning with a measuring device.

@geoffreystearns1690

3 жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop Yes, the offset should be set at 1/2 inch for the larger templates and 1/4 inch for the miniature templates. I still haven't solved the problem of tearout when the edge pins get too narrow.

rather than having to use bushings with the router bits,,why cant you just buy the router bits with a bearing

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

That’s a very good question. I think the bearing would have to be very very large, but I could see that working. Unfortunately, the industry is very focus on bushings.

What don’t you make both cuts at the same time

@MasonWoodshop

3 ай бұрын

I’m not quite sure what you mean. The only type of dovetail this jig is capable of cutting both pieces at the same time is half blind dovetails. For through dovetails each piece needs be done separately.

"These guys?" Sound like Wisconsin boy like me?

@MasonWoodshop

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, close! I'm Canadian. 🇨🇦

@thetruthstartshere6694

3 жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop Good for you mate! Liked your video!

Found myself wanting to blow the sawdust out of there from my phone 🤦‍♂️

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

Routers are unbelievably messy and none of the dust collection attachments I have work on this jig. I think there are other dovetail jigs with built in dust collection.

@liketheresalwaysbeen

Жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop I have the same exact jig. Just got it and excited to use it!

@liketheresalwaysbeen

Жыл бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop I was face palming myself, btw. Not you. Great video. Thank you.

@MasonWoodshop

Жыл бұрын

@@liketheresalwaysbeen My pleasure! It's an amazing jig, but very overwhelming to get started using.

There are better and simpler jigs on the market; for example the Gifkins jig.

@MasonWoodshop

5 ай бұрын

Oooh, I hadn’t heard of that jig until you mentioned it. Looks very interesting, albeit pricey and not readily available in North America. Definitely something I’d like to check out, though.

@jen36371

5 ай бұрын

@@MasonWoodshop I have used this jig for years and have always had very good results. What’s more, the router is mounted in a table which makes it safer - in my opinion. The jig will only cut through dovetails, but if blind dovetails are required it’s easy enough to add a face to the drawer front, say.

If you have never seem or used a dove tail jig do your self a favor and look at some other video. There is no way you’ll learn how to use this listening to this guy. He’s not given you a concept, plus he’s skipped half the set up.

@MasonWoodshop

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. My apologies if I missed some aspects of the setup, I’m certainly not a professional. Thankfully, the overall feedback on the video has been positive and my collection of dovetail jig videos have helped some folks better understand and use the tool. Your feedback is helpful and something I’ll consider in future videos.

Not a good guide