God bless conservative Catholics!

@a.t.c.3862

20 күн бұрын

Which ones, the ones who are faithful to the Deposit of Faith, or those who cling to human traditions? If there is no development, we should be celebrating Mass in upper rooms furnished with couches, and popes should be married, as Perer was.

@tcavalo

20 күн бұрын

​@@a.t.c.3862that's a lame strawman. I'm not even Catholic and I see you as an infiltrating heretic.

@abnd8025

20 күн бұрын

@@tcavalo You’re not Catholic so you’ve clearly never seen these so-called conservative Catholics for what they’ve done to draw this kind of negative image.

@Shevock

20 күн бұрын

Thanks for the blessing. And God redirect those that follow the new conservatism that conserves nothing away from their error and back into the arms of the pope, Christ's representative on earth. He's criticizing me and you when we flirt with the regressive and racist hyperindividualism too often called conservative in Catholic KZread.

@MathAdam

20 күн бұрын

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Just a thought: I don't recall any pope being questioned and criticized and outright slandered as much as Pope Francis. Maybe our popes of Vat 2, but that was before 24 hour media. Most have been pretty much ignored. So, I wonder, what truths is he trying to both hold and convey that the devil seems hell bent on stopping us from hearing? Thanks, Michael, for the review of many of our popes statements. God bless.

@johnosumba1980

20 күн бұрын

You forget Americans question even Pope John Paul on his document on theology of the body and his stance against Iraq war?

@julieCA58

20 күн бұрын

@@johnosumba1980 i heard some chitter chatter, but not the condemnation of the pope that I"m hearing now. May be a regional thing.

@fotisvon9943

20 күн бұрын

i think the devil just hates the pope and since the pope has more ability now than ever the devil hates him more now than ever

@ilonkastille2993

20 күн бұрын

The Devil is working over hours for a reason. We have to make sure not to let him get us.

@ilonkastille2993

20 күн бұрын

The so called “conservatives “ are acting and thinking like the Pharisees.

I think he was just calling out pharisees and hypocrites. Giving him the benefit of the doubt.

@ilonkastille2993

20 күн бұрын

Yes absolutely agree with you.

@museluvr

20 күн бұрын

Good point - we are not judges, that alone is for God.

@vincentcandelero2335

20 күн бұрын

@@museluvr Jesus never said we couldn’t judge. He said remove the plank from your eye before you judge because you will be held to your own standard

@MeanBeanComedy

19 күн бұрын

I'm out of benefits of doubt to give. I'm fresh out!

@polodown4729

16 күн бұрын

Exactly. Matthew 23:23

I’m not a Catholic, but was an admirer of Benedict XVl

I think the reason the interviewer asks in terms of conservative vs liberal is because it seems the liberal media uses 'conservative' as a slur. The liberal media still hopes for and thinks that Pope Francis will allow for female priests and allow gay marriage and see 'conservative' catholics as stumbling blocks to their progress of conquering the catholic church with their progressive ideology. There might be some language or translation differences here too.

Our Pope is more of a "fishers of men" kind of Apostle. He is a "feed my sheep" kind of person a "Peter do u love me? YES i love you Lord! So feed my lambs... my sheep", type of Pope. He is an absolutely obedient to Christs call to love all peoples regardless. This is what our current Pope puts emphasis on more than laws and tradition. These are deeds most of us struggle with in this world, hense the condition and state of our deteriorating families, communities and society at large. God is working in Pope Francis regarding our love for one another. We as Christians are failing dismally at uniting. We good at criticizing and even condemning one another. We need to uplift and build and guide each other. Thats key. This does not mean we disregard dogma or doctrine but we have to put into practise what Christ has shown and taught us by example.

I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh religiously. Also, Glenn Beck, Steve Deace, etc....I identified as a conservative my whole life (not anymore, tho). I've had to explain to others that Pope Francis is not an American....he doesn't listen to TheBlaze or the Daily Wire.....we need to stop interpreting him as if he were an American politician.

Everyone communicates differently. I have friends who know exactly what I'm saying...yet to my husband and sons I speak in tongues...😂

60 minutes will not miss a chance to stir the pot.

@ReasonandTheology

20 күн бұрын

lol

with all due respect - with fiducia supplicants he could also communicate better. that was unnecessary

I hate these media clips. I assure you, A LOT of context has been eliminated. I think, when we see the entirety of the interview and context, your observations will be accurate.

@Reason&Theology I proudly attend a missle of '62 mass (ICKSP) and I am also a defender of Pope Francis (and I personally know Dave Armstrong who is fighting the good fight). It can be difficult talking to my "trad" friends at times, but it's worth it

i feel like this dude is the divisive catholic that he pretends to fight against.

But, he did define what he was saying. " A conservative is one who clings to something and does not want to see beyond that." I get that. You can retain your faith in Christ, retain the teachings of Christ and those of the early church, and our liturgy that was formed from those beliefs, and still be open to be breezes sent by the Holy Spirit. We could walk through the garden with Jesus with our eyes shut, but think of the beauty we would miss. We want our eyes open so that we can see even more of God"s great design. I understand our pope. Let's face it, if we are actually Catholic, we are conservative by nature. Even our liberals are considered conservative by the worlds standards. What we are dealing with now are some that are SO conservative, they fear changes in the mass that have always been a priest perogative. Right now I'm thinking of the bells in mass. My heart goes out to them and remind them that Christ said "Fear not". Bring light to abuses in your parish, to be sure. If you are blessed to know the rubrics of the liturgy, by all means share your knowledge. There are 71,128,395 Catholics in the United States alone. With that many people, there will be errors, but that does not mean the church is falling apart. And before anyone freaks out about being open to the Holy Spirit, no I am not talking about gay marriage or women priests. And it is a small percentage of people that speak of that. I'm saying we all need to relax, fully participate in mass and the life of the church, and have actual conversations with your priests and fellow parishioners about what concerns you. I've seen more positive references to Catholicism (outside of our own circles) in the last few years than I did growing up in the 60's. We're doing OK. Our pope is our pope. And he knows what he is doing. I've said it before, if Jesus thought Pope Francis was dangerous, i'm sure he could take him out. peace to all.

I love when he clarifys and says "Adjective." Very intelligent man. Isn't the word conservative a newer word from the 1800's? I don't particularly like these newer words. Conservative vs. Traditionalist, what does that really mean? Regardless of it all, I understood what he meant. Plus the question asked was a bit confusing, he actually seemed to put it in perspective. Love you Pope Francis. He has an insight that is deeper than most, maybe that is the difficulty? I would listen to his short sermons at his daily Mass in Rome when the Covid was going on. He says profound things with few words. I missed seeing him everday for Mass after it went off the air. Maybe he is just above us in spiritual thought, maybe we should listen a little closer to some of the other words he said in those 38 seconds. Anxious to hear the rest of the interview.

I understand him. Pope Francis is a south American. Some things are different there. Remember it was the English that created the most heresies. Go listen to the ragidity. They tell people what vocation they must have. People worship tradition. The English speaking world needs an attitude adjustment.

@exercisethemind

20 күн бұрын

Yes, we are the ones who need correction here, not the Pope.

We don't always agree Michael and I'm ok with that, God is definitely helping me to see that I'm not as understanding as I should be, Thank you Jesus. Life would be a lot more simpler if people let God be In Control. Regardless of what you think of The Holy Father, God Has Chosen him to lead the church right now and God Does Know Best. I would consider myself a traditional Catholic and because I Love The Lord I must love His Holy Church and His Pope. If you have a problem with The Holy Father then bring your concerns to God in prayer and love. The stronger your faith in Jesus is the less you worry about what is going on in the Vatican. Obey The Church and pray for her leaders, it is the only way to change anything. If only we prayed half as hard as we criticised we would transform The Church overnight. I am sadly far from perfect so I can only imagine how hard it is for The Pope, we forget that he is human and flawed just like the rest of us. I will always support the Church, where else can I go? Which of us haven't said things that could have been better worded, keep your eyes on Christ and the opinions of other people won't bother you as much.

Thanks for this. It's sad that some people rush to misinterpret and find fault.

Oh well. It makes no difference to me. He can’t vanquish the Truth!

Oh cmon just say it, traditionalism tends to be more of an american problem cause the Catholics there don't come from decent backgrounds. America was built on Protestant ideas and also made up of pretty much mostly lower class people of Europe. It's a deeply personal issue, they're trying to solve by adopting certain values and a mass rite!

As a conservative who typically votes Republican i completely agree with Pope Frances and i would never put my political views, or American pride, over Catholic deposite of faith. I'll denounce my citizenship before I deny my Catholic faith

@museluvr

20 күн бұрын

Amen. I've already informed family if I must die because I will never deny Christ, so be it.

Pope Francis needs to just hire a popesplainer full time to follow him around and translate everything he's saying at all times if he's this poor at communicating anything

@ReasonandTheology

20 күн бұрын

I’ll do it for free if he calls on me to 😂

@user-ee5iq5yb3l

20 күн бұрын

@@ReasonandTheologyShameless Antipope-Splainer lol

@ReasonandTheology

20 күн бұрын

@@user-ee5iq5yb3l shameless slander and schismatic. Go to confession before you go to the lake of fire.

@tcavalo

20 күн бұрын

​@@ReasonandTheologyPope-splain blessing of homosexual unions?

@johnosumba1980

20 күн бұрын

Ask yourself why the problem is mainly with a section of US church.

Those who misinterprete the truth, they are accountable. Thank you for your clear explanation. God bless you.🙏👌

If the media picks up that the pope “ dis’s “ “american conservative catholics” then are we not thrown under the bus regardless of what was intended by the pope. It feels like nobody really has “our” back who really just wanted the eucharist not dropped on the ground every week, and for someone to back us up on proper catholic perspectives, particularly when it seems like improper perspectives get a pass.

God bless us all conservative Catholics throughout the world.

From my life experience, when someone starts to use word suicide often (first for no-vaccinated and now) that person is suicidal. I am sorry that I didnt know that before my friends killed themselves, so I am going to prey immedietly.

In Pope Francis's critique, he doesn't condemn all conservatives outright. He is conservative. Instead, he provides his definition of what he sees as a distorted form of conservatism-one that prioritizes minor traditions over essential values and undermines the core principles of Catholicism. Drawing parallels to Jesus's condemnation of the Pharisees in Matthew 23:23, Pope Francis underscores the danger of fixating on trivial aspects of the law while neglecting love, mercy, and justice. This perspective echoes Paul's advice to Timothy not to quarrel about words but to focus on the substance of the matter. Moreover, Pope Francis's use of the term "conservative" in a negative light invites reflection on those who claim conservatism while undermining the very traditions that define Catholicism, such as the authority of the papacy upheld in the 8th Ecumenical Council. It begs the question: why do these self-proclaimed "conservatives" neglect these teachings and traditions? In essence, Pope Francis's critique is not an indictment of Catholics who identify as conservative, including himself, but a call to examine the substance of one's actions and the true essence of conservatism, particularly among those who misuse tradition to the detriment of the Catholic Church.

The greater problem is people who attend mass but flatly deny the divinity of Christ, the real presence in the Eucharist, and those who pick and choose which moral teachings they agree or disagree on as a matter of “muh conscience”. Guess which Catholics aren’t questioning those truths? The conservative ones. If you attend mass and publicly promote abortion, I would urge you to refrain from receiving holy communion until you find your way back to what the Church teaches. If you attend mass and publicly advocate for so-called “gay marriage”, I would urge you to refrain from holy communion until you have a contrite heart and go to confession. If we’re going to squabble about issues in the church, maybe we should focus on those that are truly dire rather than posting “see, I told you if you go to a TLM you’re in schism!” videos.

@luisrios3446

19 күн бұрын

That’s a complete strawman…

The average “normie” who isn’t hip to the internal factions battling under the banner of traditionalism, will misunderstand our Holy Father. This was a good explanation. Conservative was perhaps a poor choice of words here seeing as it’s a culturally wide spread term for about half the US electorate. It might have been better for him to rephrase that term but of course 60 minutes has an agenda and will ask the question in such a way that causes an issue.

The pope is not talking about the Deposit of Faith alone but about being Conservative in general. In that Catechism quote it doesn't say Conservative but refers to Apostolic Tradition. Around the world, the term used is Apostolic but for some political interest it tends to be called Conservative. We should call ourselves Apostolic, NOT Conservative. BTW, I love your new intro 👍

Grace and Peace Michael, thank you for the heads up. I look forward to watching the full interview and discerning the entire message. I have come to appreciate how a full understanding of recent Church teachings are needed. I often consider how Christ, recorded by the evangelists, taught. The gift to deeply contemplate on how the words teach me today. +Pax Christi

Hey Michael, I appreciate your commentary; I’m newly Catholic; can you maybe soon go into detail about some traditions that can change vs those that cannot? I am starting to think or feel those that can be are being weaponized as “heresies”. Thank you :)

@ReasonandTheology

20 күн бұрын

Here you go: The Catholic Concept of Tradition with Michael Lofton kzread.info-fsLNyUHUk4?feature=share And you are correct. Some that can change others are saying can’t and claim it is heresy to change them. They couldn’t fight their way out of a wet theological paper bag though.

@leledeedmon9484

19 күн бұрын

@@ReasonandTheology Thank you!! Going to watch video now 😁

I didn't realize how based Pope Francis was

Lets just say it. Fancis IS the Pope. Not a good one as his pastoral tendancies lean one way. Love him, pray for him. He is a horrible communicator, or maybe not which causes division.

Love the intro brother 🙏🏼💙❤️

@ReasonandTheology

20 күн бұрын

Thanks

Yes, it's directed to me. I know why I joined the Catholic Church, and it is not because the pope is impeccable. He's no more impeccable than I am. Anyway, if the pope is wicked, it's not truly my problem. My business is to do the best I can.

@ReasonandTheology

20 күн бұрын

Literally nobody in the world believes the pope is impeccable. And he isn’t wicked.

I’m sure he doesn’t understand that simply being catholic who doesn’t support abortion in the us media we are seen as conservatives or even worst alt right.

Well I believe that's only teaser.. They must release a provocative teaser to generate more views.. Media nowadays...

This interview is not *ex cathedra* anyways, so why the outrage?

I don't believe it is at all constructive to apply labels that have been co-opted by politics to express how one practices their Catholic faith. We are - and always should be - Catholic first. The evil one is dividing the Catholic faithful by putting people in the same two political camps: "liberal or conservative". I am Catholic. I am neither "liberal" nor "conservative". My Catholicity informs every "decision box" in the flowchart of life.

War of the words? Gees. Word conservative, in US, connotes politically at least for eg. a red state. I know conservatives though that in the eyes of the church would not be particularly 100% Magisterially aligned. This word was thrown out to him by the interviewer. Other term, "dogmatic box." There is Dogmatic Theology, Dogma, etc. I think he was referring to Dogmatism. Dear Pope Francis was handed the word conservative and probably may think of that word in the wrong context regarding the United States? In my catholic faith I do not find a reason to use the word conservative. I am not a "conservative" catholic. I also do not look at dissenters or rad trads as conservative. FSSP church goers I do not call rad trads, even though there may be some or many really stuck in the dogmatic box? Words have meaning, but words can mean different things to different people. We make words fit to certain mindsets. Nowdays it can be very difficult to discern. Those who have been following along with the events of the Catholic Church, understood what he was talking about. Just glad I am not in a dogmatic box, but the secular world would maybe say that I am. So you can see how thinking is varied in what we think and who we are. The Pope speaks to his flock. I am ok with what he speaks.

Do know there are sometimes difficulties in language translation and interpretation. Do we know who the translator is and that they were giving a good, reliable, accurate English translation that Francis himself would agree with?

Pope Francis said, "You used," to the interviewer Norah O'Donnell, "an [the] adjective conservative. "Conservative" is [as] one who clings to something and does not want to see beyond that." To cling onto something like the Radical Traditionalist, and "does not want to see," refusing to see the true teachings, the dogmas, of the church, for example, the dogmas states the Pope "has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole church," but yet many rejects the Pope's authority, and that's not being conservative. Norah O'Donnell used "conservative" rather than "radical traditionalists." It's suicidal to cut yourself, dissent yourself from Jesus, his church.

Thank you.

Any commentary on the Harrison Butker speech?

@ReasonandTheology

20 күн бұрын

Haven’t watched it

Michael i love what you do, but 90 mins on 50 secs! I gave up after 45 mins. Less is often more. Please accept this as constructive criticism.

Love the new intro! 🔥

I understood what Pope Francis said/meant but I can understand how it could be misunderstood...thanks so much for this video and for the clarity you always present in your content. Almost 100K subscribers, congratulations!

I listened to what the Pope answered and totally understood what he meant.

Michael what an amazing intro!!! I love it🤩

I keep re watching the opening 🥺

I think I need to watch the whole video before commenting 😆 🤣 😂 as soon as I left a comment about the Pope's use of dogma you echoed my sentiments

Love the new intro 💪🏻

Bro this intro was awsome !!

Yup you always get it.

A “traditionalist” dissenting against the supreme pontiff is very not traditional. I imagine Bl. Pius IX would not approve.

Time for American Orthodoxy!

Thanks for giving Pope Francis the hermanutic of charity.

@ReasonandTheology

20 күн бұрын

Any time!

Michael! Question: WHAT IS TRADITION? IT IS GOD'S LOVE AND HIS TEACHING TO US!

I was wondering, did you watch the interview with Jordan Peterson and Matt Fred and I was wondering if you plan on doing a video on it because Jordan Peterson said some pretty interesting things on that show it would be interesting if Matt Fred can actually interview Pope Francis

God bless ALL of God' children. Pray for the pope, for satan' going over-time on this one.

No no!! MICHAEL!!! HE'S PERFECT!! I LOVE IT!!!!

The pope is not the Church in its entirety. We as faithful Catholics, committed, serious and study our faith have the duty to give light on murky issues coming from everywhere even from the pope. Redirect them to orthodoxy, on what we truly believe and not further create confusion and put some people to further disarray especially those weak in their understanding of what we believe.

@luisrios3446

19 күн бұрын

UBI PETRUS IBI ECCLESIA

I think the term most catholics are going to have a hard time understanding is when he referred to dogmatic with negative connotations. they may hear this and think he's referring to the deposit of the faith

Isn't our Pope famous for being very unclear? He has caused me personally quite a lot of confusion due to his lack of clarity. Some people think he intentionally obtuse in what he says. What do you think about the topic of the lack of clarity coming from the seat of Peter?

@MrCusefan44

20 күн бұрын

I think Lofton addressed this (the Pope tending towards a lack of clarity) pretty directly in the video. I’m not sure what you are attempting to get at with your question as a result.

@rdubstrebol

20 күн бұрын

@@MrCusefan44 I think he is being very charitable to provide his listeners with a lot of perspective, but why should we need to go to commentators for clarity? Going from the short snippet we saw our Pope spoke down to the faithful who hold to dogma. A better question might be: why should the faithful have to got to commentators to clarify the words of the supreme pontiff, and not just be able to take his words as they are given to us?

@MrCusefan44

20 күн бұрын

@@rdubstrebol - Short answer is - because that is the current situation with the current Pope. You can either be a good, faithful Christian and deal with it charitably towards the Pope - or you can be a weak, potentially unfaithful one and allow it to corrode your faith. Ultimately, even though there are issues that might bother you which you cannot control - what matters in the end is still fully and completely in your control. Choose wisely.

@rdubstrebol

20 күн бұрын

@@MrCusefan44 It seems as though my questions provoke you into thinking that my faith is troubled. Why would you think that? I think that many people are troubled, and perhaps that is a natural assumption, but that fact alone does not shine a very good light on the path that our Pope is leading us on. I know what I need to do for my salvation and I humbly endeavor to remain in the good faith, the same faith of my fathers, the one which was graciously given to us by Christ Himself. I ask these questions for precisely that reason and in good faith.

@rdubstrebol

20 күн бұрын

@MrCusefan44 "Nothing of the things appointed ought to be diminished; nothing changed; nothing added; but they must be preserved both as regards expression and meaning." Pope Leo XIII, The against modern errors: 16 Papal Documents ​

Yes is yes and no is no

I like the new intro

Nauseous deference to your heresiarch.

Neat

Oooh boy.. Monday is gonna be interesting lol.. I hope 60 Minutes doesn't do a bunch of clip editing of the interview.

You said more or less that Francis is speaking about dogmas that are not dogmas. Are you saying he does not know what dogma is? I hear you adding a lot to what he actually said, and I know that you are being charitable, but we are supposed to pay very close attention to the words of our Pope, and not everyone is going be able to step back and insert the charity the way you have, and the Pope's words are going to confuse many and hurt many. How can we remain oriented towards Christ when the Pope speaks in such a way?

@murrayrisling4276

20 күн бұрын

Upon first listening I thought he was minimizing the importance of dogma. Listening again can be taken as: To view traditions (small t) as if they are dogma and put them or close them up as "in a dogmatic box".

@wednesdayschild3627

20 күн бұрын

I know people that think if they wear a bigger veil, they are more holy. They think if they are not vaccinated or have more kids they are better. It is a superficial faith. They couldn't tell me what the gifts of the spirit are. They couldn't tell me the 10 commandments. They cannot tell me the 7 dead sins.

@ponti5882

20 күн бұрын

By having humility and asking for understanding. Speaking about “dogmas that are not dogmas” should tell you that it’s not the Pope who doesn’t know what dogmas are. He’s speaking about things that people think are dogmas when in reality they are not. Just because many people believe these things are on the level of dogma doesn’t mean that’s how the Church treats them.

@rdubstrebol

19 күн бұрын

@@ponti5882 Yes, I understand that, but my concern is, and I am risking beating a dead horse here, but why do we have to rely on commentators to clarify for what Francis says? I do appreciate Lofton's take on it, because I find that it rings true, but not everyone listens to the same sources and a different commentator will have a different take on the same thing, and can lead other into a totally different direction of understanding. And there in lies all of the discontent between the faithful. Some listen to Lofton and others do not. I really desire for the Pope to say what he means in a clear way that does not leave open such an opportunity for confusion.

So after listening again, the Holy Father gave his interpretation of the word "conservative." So in his thinking, that is the word he may classify for those being rigid and in dogmatic box. Maybe that is the floating word for those particular kind of thinkers in the Vatican. So I guess it could be put up against the word radicals vs. conservatives. Radicals would be be the other end, like some at the Synod? Sorry, I know we have to find words for placement of all these thinkers..lol. It drives me crazy. Have a good day. Thanks Michael.

The USA sets trends..dares to ask serious questions...and is filled with humans who really think for themselves...and the US Catholics love God above their own lives! So of course people are going to slap at us..they always have..and we aren't bothered by this!

@ndumferdy2545

20 күн бұрын

Don't overrate the US. Some of the "trends" they set are very negative and detrimental to the rest of the world. Thinking the US is somehow special above other nations is what is the main problem with the US today

@kimlersue

20 күн бұрын

@@ndumferdy2545 Are you a catholic in the U.S.?

But Francis is saying one thing poorly then has Fernandez write another as confusing as he can possibly word it.

Im sure 60 min will edit to there own agenda!

Jesus gave His life on the cross to pay for our sins,He was buried,and He rose again on the third day and He’s coming back again.Put your faith in Him alone to save you.We all have sinned.Hell is real

@gijoe508

20 күн бұрын

All of this is true, however Jesus said his body on earth is the Church, “Why are you persecuting me?” Is what he said to Saul. Membership in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church is where you will find Salvation through Jesus Christ because you can’t separate the Bridegroom from the Bride.

@ValRhapsody

20 күн бұрын

Why do Protestants always come to Catholic channels? I don't get it, this doesn't happen the other way around. This has to be brain washing from your parents or church leaders

@BurgerSleuth-yx1ke

20 күн бұрын

@@gijoe508 what the Catholic Church teaches is not true. We get to Heaven by what Jesus Christ did for us alone. Not what we do. And Mary was just a woman. She was a very cool woman but still just a woman. She doesn’t hear or answer prayers. Why would we want to pray to Mary when we can pray to God Himself.

@ponti5882

20 күн бұрын

⁠@@BurgerSleuth-yx1kewhat the Catholic Church teaches is true and what you are teaching is not true. Jesus gave us the Church.

@BurgerSleuth-yx1ke

20 күн бұрын

@@ponti5882 Jesus said to worship God only when satan was tempting Him in the wilderness. The Catholic Church doesn’t Worship God alone, they worship Mary also. They pray to dead saints as well How is that ok?. God instructs us To worship Him alone No one else. I’m not trying to anger you, I’m just trying to show you that what the Catholic Church teaches goes against the Bible. No Works, no Sacraments get us to Heaven, only what Jesus Christ did for us alone gets us to Heaven, not what we do.

So, was the bible written in Latin🤔

@lucasvarela9632

20 күн бұрын

The original writing no. The catholic church assembled the final canon and translated it to Latin

@carolinenorman6141

20 күн бұрын

No hebrew and Greek translated into latin by st jerome

New intro ah👍

I fear this interview may not be clear enough for regular viewers. People pull out what they want to hear, be it bad or good. By the way what is a "conservative" bishop? So are we meaning the conservative bishop to be those going against the Holy Fathers letters , encylicals etc? Kind of noted by the interviewer..wrongly? I do not consider a disobedient Bishop to be a conservative. Don't like the use of the word, conservative, particularly being used in our catholic faith. Vague meaning word, causing a bit of confusion. Holy Father probably should have ask the interviewer, what do you mean by the word conservative?

Still don’t know how to communicate??? He knows exactly what he’s saying

kzread.info/dash/bejne/q4mcl82cYdTIepc.htmlsi=qqgrb7f4PCBX8D_l Bishop Sheen defined it best Liberal Vs Reactionary. Conservative is the wrong word for today. Problem Liberal and Conservative are specific to politics. Unfortunately in the last decades in the US consevative catholic and liberal catholic have been combined with unique American politics.

No! Michael! God doesn't want us to HOLD TO THE FAITH....HE WANTS US TO SHARE THE FAITH! If we have "the faith" we ALREADY HAVE EVERYTHING.....WE NEED TO SHARE IT NOW......THERE IS NO SAFE GUARDING NOTHING...... GOD CANNOT BE HELD CLOSED! That's what our Beloved Pope is saying. GET OVER IT PEOPLE!

Jesus was not a conservative. He criticized conservatives in his own religion, but never condemned minority groups, even gays.

@ReasonandTheology

16 күн бұрын

Jesus condemned sin and sinners who persist in sin. You have never read the gospels.

@jeromehorwitz2460

16 күн бұрын

@@ReasonandTheology Jesus is reputed to have condemned self-righteous religious hypocrites and judgmental ecclesiastical authorities but not gay people.

I think reacting to the interview is premature right now.

He just needs to dumb it down and be direct. Most of us don't get nuance

@ReasonandTheology

20 күн бұрын

He didn’t nuance it enough in this case

Again??

I think people need to stop using everything pope says to make videos and have so many click bait opinions . Like reporters take a sentence and twist it around .Like America a rotting from within all the riots , with all this new news comments Catholics are causing separation .

You are the one interpreting it that way but is that what he means? He should be less ambiguous and adhere to the deposit of faith. Nothing changes yet he acts in a manner that contravenes basic truth as held and believed by the Chuch

Those rigid Catholics probably gave too much money to the Peter's Pence Collection.

This is just a case of a pope who is not American and so Doesnt understand what is going on in American culture and society as much. Either pope Francis gets some better American council or I pray that we have an American pope in the future

@ndumferdy2545

20 күн бұрын

An American pope will not necessarily make things better. If God so wishes, then of course! But if not, don't be dreaming an American pope will be any better.

If you want to reach out conservatives, don't do Pachamama statue to the house of Christ. And don't speak the language of globalists like Build Back Better. Bad mistake.

God bless Pope Francis. He, and the church in much of the world, really is much different in perspective than Americans. The conservative tradition in the Anglophone is Burke, Russell Kirk, and Roger Scruton. The conservative thinkers in the historical Spanish speaking world has been indeed fascist, racist, and yes suicidal. That fascist conservative impulse, I would have said, before Trump, was nonexistent in the English tradition. But now we in America need to criticize that conservativeness that conserves nothing. It's two conservatisms that exist in America since Trump. One conserves still. The one inspired by Trump, especially visible in Strickland and others flirting with decisive regression, is indeed suicidal. We are called to task when we don't stand up against disobedient so- called conservatives, hyper individuals who are destroying the Church by splitting it up. I think folk are, to use a Gospel metaphor, jumping between Jesus and the sinners in the temple and siding against Jesus.

This problem is in the US only because your definition of conservative and liberal are based on your political parties. And you, Americans, thought that the whole world understood your definition the way you do...so arrogant!

Decoding of processes and progress requires keeping in uncertainty of belief their inseparability and qualitative equality only possible by consents in uncertainty of belief (Lk 1: 29, 34, 45) to be joined in consecrated marriages either male-female and/or celibate in keeping their inseparability and qualitative equality on the reference point of Mary at Lk 1:38: "let it be to me", and Mt 1:24: "Joseph ... took his wife". This decoding was as by Pope Francis' consecrated celibate marriage vowed to man in Christ on 17 June 2021 by it keeping the inseparability and qualitative equality of its ensuring and its insuring. This ensuring was of its procreation roles' gifts embezzled by ten of its Vatican state citizens/employees, including Cardinal Angelo Becciu, for which convicted on 18 December 2023 in its Varican state criminal court. This insuring was of its need of union of its identity at unacceptable risk by the Italian Parliament "Zan" anti-homophobia bill. This decoding is in the identification in 1930 of the "multiplier" of economic processes and non-economic progress in national and international relations and its testing by consecrated marriages from 1946 with both objective social confirmation in 1964 by economist/statistician of national accounts joined in a consecrated male female marriage, Colin Clark, awarded a papal medal by Pope St Paul V1 for this testing at the UNO Food and Agricultural Organisation and Pope St Paul V1's Commission on Population simultaneously and both objective and subjective individual confirmation on 31 March 2021 by a son of Colin Clark, Oliver Clark. These confirmations were in his keeping in uncertainty of belief their inseparability and qualitative equality at the Australian Federal Circuit Court in completing living obedience, chastity and poverty exercising an absolute power of simultaneous authorisations of advantageous combining of the activities of Pope Francis as head of both the Vatican Church and the Vatican state on 17 June 2021 in the Becciu + 9 and "Zan" cases. These cases were a reference point for the Synod on synodality from October 2021. Pope Francis' consecrated celibate marriage's authorisations on 17 June 2021 exercised an absolute power as a reference point for these Becciu + 9 and "Zan" cases.

Maybe your opinion is not very accurate

Pope explaner

It appears that Mr. Bergoglio wants to replace the word of God with his own dogma. Has he read the warnings in the OT and NT that we must NOT subtract or add to the Bible. Moreover, according to scripture nothing is new under the sun, and we should follow the Old path. He seems to advocate that Catholic leaders adopt a more fluid view of scripture that might change with society, but I do not find that concept in scripture. It is noteworthy that the tenets of our faith are enshrined by every word in scripture that has been inspired by God for reasons that we might not comprehend. Therefore no part of the Bible is dispensable. It is naive to believe that biblical text might change, but the fundamentals of the faith will endure. This is confusion, and God is not the author of confusion.

@ReasonandTheology

20 күн бұрын

lol what a joke. I literally showed that isn’t his view in this video

@julieCA58

20 күн бұрын

I have not heard or read anything the pope has said or written that says we should have "a more fluid view of scripture that might change with society". I have heard commentators trying to destroy the church try to convince people that what he wants, but not him.

@soldierofmary984

20 күн бұрын

I only know of protestants that call him Mr Bergoglio.

Definitions are irrelevant. All that matters is "feels" now. And therein lies the problem.

Jorge is not Catholic, has excommunicated himself by his heretical words and actions. I pray for his conversion.