Pool Table Leveling

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Paul Smith of Diamond Billiards takes us through the process of leveling a one-piece, 9' slate on Diamond's patented 22-point leveling system.

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  • @nickp4793
    @nickp479310 ай бұрын

    Very nice video Paul. Thanks for taking the time to talk and demonstrate all the small details.

  • @6771Randy
    @6771Randy6 жыл бұрын

    You are truly a master pool table technician. I never knew what a demanding and technical process this is. Thank you Paul for this video!

  • @Daminatovideo
    @Daminatovideo4 жыл бұрын

    this illustration is the best I've seen and has the most logic

  • @Daminatovideo

    @Daminatovideo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Does diamond make a .pdf or document with step by step guides?

  • @martinemmerson2809
    @martinemmerson28096 ай бұрын

    Great content, Great presentation, and very clear. I have ordered a machine level, and can't wait to use it.

  • @9873459872134234
    @98734598721342346 жыл бұрын

    Very, very good explanation and demonstration. Bravo. Thanks very much.

  • @theoneandonlyowl3764
    @theoneandonlyowl37646 жыл бұрын

    I'd wish we'd had the internet back in the early 80's. We had a little 6 x 3 table in our pub (bar), with a super thick slate that ran non-stop all day every day. The rolls on the table were horrific and figured it needed machining or sanding... had I known that it could possibly have been fixed with adjustments like this (if it had them) or at least shimming the supports... I would have been a hero. But we locals learned to roll with the rolls, any visitors had little hope though. We had a guy come up to re-cloth it and I’d asked and 'hoped' he'd level it as well, but he left it just the way it was, was so damn annoyed after he left. Considering an average human hair is about 4 thou (0.1mm), I doubt too many people would ever notice, so understand your tolerances. Thanks for the instructional video Paul, I thought it was brilliant.

  • @stevenm6200

    @stevenm6200

    4 жыл бұрын

    Lmaoo that sounds like a nightmare! I’m a soft shooter at various shots so any unleveled table will definitely make me miss my shot! Which is really annoying

  • @theoneandonlyowl3764

    @theoneandonlyowl3764

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@stevenm6200 Playing on a table you know is an advantage... but, everyone wants to play on a level one. I used to amaze people sometime (that weren't local) and it was knowledge of the table. I always wished it had been fixed though. Thanks for the comment.

  • @Mrphilharmonic
    @Mrphilharmonic3 жыл бұрын

    Wow! What a great video. Detailed, exacting and very well explained. It makes piano tuning seem easy! lol. Thanks for this demo. Just illustrates that you need a machinists level to do this properly. Levels purchased at Walmart just won't cut it!!

  • @michaelsauer3783
    @michaelsauer37834 жыл бұрын

    was it necessary to have the side rails on during the demo? was thinking of installation of the felt on both the rail and the bed … and if they would have an effect on the level of the playing surface.

  • @tmo26
    @tmo263 жыл бұрын

    Interesting topic! Something you do not see in this detail in a 5min How its made video. Thanks for taking the time! One question though: Wouldn't it be better not to lean on the outer rim or place the belly on it when taking measurements with this precision?

  • @douglasmichel6361
    @douglasmichel6361 Жыл бұрын

    Final test, a piece of 24" x 24" 1/4"-3/8" glass and a ball. Lay the glass on different spots and place a ball in the middle, if it rolls, readjust.

  • @cyumadbrosummit3534
    @cyumadbrosummit35345 жыл бұрын

    Are the skirts bolted to the slate or just resting on it? Is the process the same for a Pro-Am that is a 3 piece?

  • @Mrphilharmonic
    @Mrphilharmonic3 жыл бұрын

    agh! I would have loved to have seen a 'test run' of a ball on the bare slate, just to see how accurate this system is. Maybe you could add this to the vid. I think I speak for quite a few who are curious to see what difference 1/1000" makes to a ball.

  • @dhall5634

    @dhall5634

    Жыл бұрын

    My experience when flattening slate via brick layer's string stretched tight and matched washers as feeler gauges, then leveling whole table via carpenters level is a ball rolls perfectly and i mean perfectly straight on bare slate. Meanwhile my method has probably more like a 10 or even 15 thousandths error

  • @Mrphilharmonic
    @Mrphilharmonic3 жыл бұрын

    Hey Paul - do you do Brunswick tables as well?? (pleeeeze?)

  • @shoprat0001a
    @shoprat0001a6 жыл бұрын

    You get an A+'s Paul, a lot tougher than it looks....

  • @larryholmes2100
    @larryholmes21005 ай бұрын

    Very good video, do you have one for a 7’ table?

  • @Mrphilharmonic
    @Mrphilharmonic3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah - shame we couldn't see the readings on the level as you did this. Maybe another camera??

  • @robbyddurham1624
    @robbyddurham16244 жыл бұрын

    beguiling does the one piece slate bend or warp a little? If it didn't, you'd think that the slate would be flat and just need the corners adjusted? fascinating.

  • @mrdawsonh

    @mrdawsonh

    4 жыл бұрын

    Machinist level notches indicate about two sheets of paper variance in height per foot. I'd be surprised if any slate is that perfectly milled.

  • @robbyddurham1624
    @robbyddurham16244 жыл бұрын

    this is why there's a sign at my bar, NO SEX ON THE POOL TABLE

  • @robbyddurham1624

    @robbyddurham1624

    4 жыл бұрын

    not my bar, the bar I go to

  • @keyboardbeats
    @keyboardbeats3 жыл бұрын

    Is it the table or the concrete?

  • @Daminatovideo
    @Daminatovideo4 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how thick the chalk marks are..100thou maybe...I didn't realize the slate bends this much.

  • @philipbreau1246
    @philipbreau12462 жыл бұрын

    At 9:40, how is it possible to have the slate low in the middle? That suggests the slate is not flat. Is there a natural sag due to weight? Can the slate flex that much?

  • @kimyalong1009
    @kimyalong10095 жыл бұрын

    its you paul!

  • @spnkurbtch

    @spnkurbtch

    4 жыл бұрын

    No it's you Kim :-)

  • @dannylee5465
    @dannylee54654 жыл бұрын

    Hey Paul, I noticed that this table is larger than the 7 foot. Would you use a 12 inch level for a 7 footer as well or a shorter level?

  • @EdwinMactalMusic

    @EdwinMactalMusic

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great question! I also am wondering

  • @kennethcrouse6212

    @kennethcrouse6212

    2 жыл бұрын

    machinist level and a straight edge is all you need

  • @Mrphilharmonic
    @Mrphilharmonic3 жыл бұрын

    And then we have the New Jersey EARTHQUAKE!! lol.

  • @wisnoskij
    @wisnoskij6 жыл бұрын

    How do you actually level something to within a thousandths of and inch tolerance? Can it even be done with shims? A playing card is like 1/20th of an inch. The thinest paper that practically falls apart in your hands is only like 1/3 of that (or 1/60th) of an inch. Do they actually make shims so thin (1/1000th of an inch) that you cannot even really see them when they are turned perfectly perpendicular?

  • @Wantedonesw

    @Wantedonesw

    5 жыл бұрын

    .01

  • @ricktanguay2310

    @ricktanguay2310

    5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jon, a deck of playing cards is about 5/8 inch thick which makes each card about 1/83 of an inch thick. If the cards are 1/20th of an inch thick, your deck would be over 2-1/2" thick!

  • @new2POOL208

    @new2POOL208

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@ricktanguay2310exactly

  • @SergioJeudy-bq4mt
    @SergioJeudy-bq4mt24 күн бұрын

    quiero escuchar esta traduccion en español

  • @Drewdownkali
    @Drewdownkali6 жыл бұрын

    Wow thtmats involved. How can it be low all the way around the table? Wouldn't some parts have to be high for others to be low?

  • @clymnt
    @clymnt6 жыл бұрын

    Do you use more than one level?

  • @pfuller136

    @pfuller136

    6 жыл бұрын

    You can and you actually should if you do it the right way.

  • @strikerz2912
    @strikerz2912 Жыл бұрын

    Where are you putting the wrench

  • @velocci6666
    @velocci66663 жыл бұрын

    On the left side of the table, how can the arrows be pointing in opposite directions if it’s one the same piece of slate? Doesn’t that mean that piece of slate is not flat?

  • @aaronberger5504

    @aaronberger5504

    3 жыл бұрын

    That is correct..... Once you get down to measuring thousandths of an inch, there will be peaks and valleys across the 9' slate that need addressed. The slate is milled to .01" but we want to try to manipulate the slate with the leveling system to get the slate to at least .002".

  • @johnvelocci8760

    @johnvelocci8760

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aaronberger5504 is it better to have a 3 piece slate for a more accurate leveling? I figure a smaller piece of slate should be flatter than a 9 foot piece.

  • @brianbaker359

    @brianbaker359

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnvelocci8760 Defintely 3 piece slates have much more points of adjustability than does a one piece slate. I can’t imagine there are many one piece slates as they would be much too heavy and difficult to move as well as more prone to breakage.

  • @onestepatatime2346
    @onestepatatime23463 жыл бұрын

    oops, sry, great video

  • @toanovan1502
    @toanovan15023 жыл бұрын

    How much is that table?

  • @toanovan1502

    @toanovan1502

    3 жыл бұрын

    I want to be branch in Vietnam, Can U help me?

  • @onestepatatime2346
    @onestepatatime23463 жыл бұрын

    fischer pool tablre r & r

  • @ricktanguay2310
    @ricktanguay23105 жыл бұрын

    Why can't you just use a transit and level the four corners of the table after your 3 pieces of slate are straight across. That is the way I do the tables and it takes me less than 15 minutes per table with an accuracy of a few thousandths.

  • @OO-ll8ge

    @OO-ll8ge

    3 жыл бұрын

    Genius

  • @2xtream
    @2xtream6 жыл бұрын

    You needed to show the Level so we could see the bubble, without seeing what you were seeing you could have just read a script without the table, would have made your efforts much more clear.... thanks for the info though....

  • @pfuller136
    @pfuller1366 жыл бұрын

    If he actually knew how to level piece of granite, this would have taken about 15 minutes.

  • @travis02gt

    @travis02gt

    6 жыл бұрын

    first of all its not granite, its slate. Two different animals. Slate bends and can flex over a 12 inch span. Diamond has wedges built into the frame. Other pool tables require the use of hardwood wedge shim, which are broken off. You also got to consider this is an instructional video. I am pretty sure Paul can do this in 10 minutes.

  • @pfuller136

    @pfuller136

    6 жыл бұрын

    Granite even a few feet thick can bend too. leveling a flat surface is the same regardless of the material, understanding what that tool is actually measuring is a start.

  • @alyssagarcia4750

    @alyssagarcia4750

    6 жыл бұрын

    today I learned that a solid piece of slate that has been machined to perfection can be unlevel in so many places. I'm sure a 6 ft or 4 ft level might have sped up the process

  • @pfuller136

    @pfuller136

    6 жыл бұрын

    you want your level to be smaller than the distance between the shortest distance between your adjustment screws.

  • @robbyddurham1624

    @robbyddurham1624

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@alyssagarcia4750 can you see under 1/1000 over one foot with a long level. Is that level you're talking about actually within tolerance at that length?

  • @juggernautx6439
    @juggernautx64395 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Shows you how crappy diamond tables really are though. It makes sense why the slate is so warped though, because it looks like either Brazilian, Chinese, or some manmade composite slate. Quit cheaping out Diamond, and put some Italian or Welsh slate on that table. Also, make a stronger frame. Diamond is so overrated. What garbage.

  • @Daminatovideo

    @Daminatovideo

    4 жыл бұрын

    what table for the money do you think out performs diamonds? For the money...

  • @scrapplesamwich7910
    @scrapplesamwich79106 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for giving out our secrets. Why would you put this on the internet cause you taking away jobs for professional pool table installers like me. Much appreciated.

  • @keith_hudson

    @keith_hudson

    6 жыл бұрын

    Scrapple Samwich Do you realize that this video literally will not effect you at all. Only about 35k people have watched this video. Also, out of the millions of tables around the world, how many people do you think will actually take the time to do this? And out of that extremely small number, probably none of them will have been one of your customers.

  • @thisisnotachannel.6277

    @thisisnotachannel.6277

    6 жыл бұрын

    Is this a real comment? Everything is on the Internet. If your job is so simple that an hour long video will put it in jeopardy, you should consider a more marketable skill set. Maybe you're right though, since all those videos showing how to fix a car are putting mechanics out of business left and right. Let's not forget the plight of accountants, web designers, or plumbers- ever since the Internet has shown me how to balance books, build a website, and shit in a workable toilet, their job market has all dried up!

  • @boogiemanspud

    @boogiemanspud

    4 жыл бұрын

    It’s been a year, hopefully you’re now unemployed.

  • @bk7878

    @bk7878

    4 жыл бұрын

    I was about to call you to setup an appointment for leveling my table, but after watching this video don't need ya! Thanks to Paul!!! LOL!!!

  • @HunkOfBurningLove1
    @HunkOfBurningLove1 Жыл бұрын

    what a joke

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