One HTS12 and one PSW10 plus 7 speaker all channel stereo demo: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZZmA2seDmdqXY5M.html

@JayPatrol

5 ай бұрын

It all depends on the size of a persons rooms or if they live in a house or apartment that makes alot of different basically

Just ordered an ht10 for my small 2 channel setup.Looks like I made a good decision. That ht12 sounds so tight and clear! The two 10"s were quite loose and really boomy! Great video!

@Studio3BRocks

8 ай бұрын

Agreed! Thanks.

I would love to have one as well.

@Studio3BRocks

Жыл бұрын

I see the price is going up, thanks to inflation.

I guess I’m not a bass junkie. Got my HTS-12 today, and it’s thumping straight outa the box! No problems. Even if I wanted to get a second Sub, I wouldn’t have anywhere to put it.🤷🏻‍♂️

@Studio3BRocks

2 жыл бұрын

I haven’t upgraded to a second yet either

@Turtleback8024

2 жыл бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks Yup! Right now, I’m happy with my single HTS12. Enjoy man.👍🏼

I would love to see 4 going at once. I currently run 2 12's with a 8 in the middle

@Studio3BRocks

2 жыл бұрын

Big room?

Definitely run 2 hts 12 subs , they sound awsome when they eq d up. They'll sing nicely running at 200 watts rms and peak out at 400 watts.

@Studio3BRocks

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds legit. Nice work!

I have to 2 psw505 which are 300 wattts continuous power. Peak power is 460 watts I will be keeping my subs for a long time.

@Studio3BRocks

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a beast of a system

More subs are always better. You could always get a MiniDSP and connect all 3 subs with the proper delays etc. Keep the 2 10" where they were originally and ad the 3rd sub at the back of the room.

@MOAB-UT

Жыл бұрын

Not always. They must be matched- then yeah. Combining a 10" with a 12", especially different brands can conflict with each other due to crossovers, speaker types, polarity and various other factors...sort of like what he said- sounded muddy. Like having two people talking to you at the very same time. Very good call on the MiniDSP. Many just throw a new sub, as is, in a room with no calibrating or room placement/treatment and then blame the sub. A well set up $1,000 sub can easily out perform a $10k sub that is the former- not set up.

@spiroszaharakis2648

Жыл бұрын

@@MOAB-UT really they don't have to be matched. Tried and tested. But you are free to believe otherwise. Two identical subs will not sound or perform the same once they are placed in different places in a typical room. Identical subs are only needed when you have a perfectly symmetrical room, with perfectly symmetrical subwoofer placement. In all other circumstances, even identical subs will sound and perform differently, thus behaving like different subs in different locations. You can also read Earl Geddes's paper about multiple subs if my opinion is not enough for you.

@MOAB-UT

Жыл бұрын

@@spiroszaharakis2648 All things being equal, matched speakers will sound better. I don't need to read papers by another man. And yes, your subjective opinion means nothing to me- the same as my n of 1 likely means nothing to you. No offense meant. We can agree to disagree. That said, I do have some basis of knowledge to draw from. I studied elec. engineering in college. Even studied at an Ivy (over rated.) I have been an audiophile for several decades. I also, create and play music- 4 instruments. I trust my own ears. Can mismatched still sound great. In the bands, we use different amplifiers. However they can also sound terrible. Before a CD is mastered, it is mixed down and leveled. In the world of critical listening, there are many variables. When speakers are not matched you introduce variables. You can drive your car with 4 different tires. It might work- but will never work quiet as well. It is not optimized. In addition to playing music, I have also mixed music. I have studio monitors, several amps, acoustic guitar, bass and electric. They all need to be in tune with each other as well. To be fair to your point, perhaps the whole matching thing is a little overblown as a way for manufacturers to push/sell more like speakers. If however, I had a choice, matching at least the type is important. By type I mean the cone material, construction, matching the impedance and being sure to match the crossover points and polarity. You want all of the components to blend together well so you don't miss any audible information. That last point is huge. Additionally, you will want to drive them with enough clean power so that they come alive. Underpowered speakers will never sound as good as they can. Even at low volume, running ample power to the drivers is important- it is like the fuel you put in your car- or your body for that matter. It is critical. Room treatment and tuning of components is also very important. In conclusion, I can promise you that a well powered set up, using high quality, matched components will always out perform a hodgepodge of mixed components- all other things being equal.

@spiroszaharakis2648

Жыл бұрын

​@@MOAB-UT let's just agree to disagree. Everything I say is documented in scientific papers and it's not my subjective opinion. Two subs don't need to be matched. Below Shroeder frequency, the room dominates. Earl Geddes published the first paper about optimizing bass in small rooms using multiple subwoofers and he even recommended using different subs as they managed to counteract bass problems easier than identical subs in typical domestic rooms. His work was the starting point for the use of multiple subwoofers to control bass response. Harman's paper which was a larger-scale study suggested otherwise but their study was based on perfectly rectangular rooms and a specific Main Listening Position which is not the case in most domestic rooms. That's all. Nothing more nothing less. I will have to admit though that optimizing performance using different subs in non-symmetrical rooms or with non-symmetrical placement is a bit more complicated and you have to know what you are doing. Having said that, my suggestion in the original comment was to keep the two 10" subs placed at the two front corners and place the single 12" sub at the back. If it's a rectangular and symmetrical room with symmetrical placement of the speakers, placing the 12" in the middle of the back wall will work perfectly fine as long as a miniDSP is used and they get properly optimized.

@Studio3BRocks

Жыл бұрын

I have a ten and a 12 inch sub on either side of my tv. It sounds good if you get the cutoff and gain levels right. I still think same subs would be preferred but if you already have the subs on hand its still better than not using it at all.

two are better in my opinion... scatter them in different corners, opposite to each other & hear the magic of Low frequencies submerging from distance into the centerpoint and fill the room.... i have 4 Subs in all 4 corners of the room

I did the same thing. Then i wanted more more lol so now I'm running 2 HTS12's. I didn't know what to do with the PSW10's after getting the 2 HTS12's. so I added them as rears. I do more movies then music. with movies they sound great. i have the Polk S60 towers S30 center S15's rear surrounds with Sonance MAG Series 6-1/2" 2-Way In-Ceiling Speakers. My reciver is the Onkyo TX-NR686. if i listen to music it's just the towers. The S60's don't need the added bass from the HTS12's they sound good alone.

@Turtleback8024

2 жыл бұрын

Great setup you got there mate! Must sound amazing! Onkyo was made for Polks😀. I got S55’s mated to the 686… couldn’t be happier.

@Hondatek254

2 жыл бұрын

​@@Turtleback8024 sweet. i got the stuff on sale around christmas. 😁

@Studio3BRocks

2 жыл бұрын

How do you like the signature series? I have the TSi series, sounds good but I'd like to save for something substantial. I fell in love with the martin logan motion series when I heard them at Best Buy Magnolia.

@Hondatek254

2 жыл бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks I like them alot. i use them more for movies. I would love to add a 3 channel amp to the front stage but that's a bit more then i can afford at the moment. seems to sound better with more power. That's why i want the amp. Now for music i just listen in 2 chgannel. if you like Bass leave the subs on.

@Hondatek254

2 жыл бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks look at what he started with. kzread.info

Oh run all 3 subs😁 set the gain/ volume half way on the HTS12. set cross over @120 on reciver and go from there.

@Studio3BRocks

2 жыл бұрын

Do you have more than 2 sub outs on your receiver or do you just use a splitter?

@Hondatek254

2 жыл бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks my receiver has 2 sub output. I use a splitter so i can connect all 4.

@Hondatek254

2 жыл бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks splitters and cables are cheap on Amazon

@allanc3911

2 жыл бұрын

80 hz is better

Nice video. Did sound a little boomy. Can that be adjusted? I want highly detailed and musical- tight even. Should I go with a sealed sub. I don't need to bother my downstairs neighbor or have too dramatic home theatre booms. think Jazz music. If not, is there another sub you recommend for this more critical listening. I also only listen below 80dB's due to a bad ear so 25% of max volume- only.

@Studio3BRocks

Жыл бұрын

I don't have a ton of sub experience. I suppose something with good sensitivity might be in order? I've heard nothing but good things from the REL brand.

@MOAB-UT

Жыл бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks I am very happy with my REL sub. For under $500 it's tough to beat IMHO. #2. Choice would have been Rhythmic. Not the base model- one or two grades up. It was about twice the price. My KEF62 sounded good but no value at $1500. I actually like the REL slightly more. It has more kick.

@gianlucabassi8853

Жыл бұрын

I thank you Will be disappointed with 95% of subwoofers....they want to please booom lovers...

@MOAB-UT

Жыл бұрын

I bought a KEF KC62 and also a REL HT1205. Both are very musical and awesome. Not real boomy at all. They each do exactly what I needed- fill the low end with rich, strong bass. I play music so I wanted a sub that will blend in to me playing along with backing tracks- low, tight bass. The KEF was pretty remarkable for it's size and it hit the lows- but not with much power behind those notes. I actually returned it and slightly prefer the overall performance of the REL which cost a third the price. No matter how good the KEF was, size matters in subs. The REL does also work with movies but clearly won't compete with a much bigger stronger Home Theatre specific sub- or better yet, a pair of them but it's plenty good enough for me. My last sub was 20 years old- probably 30 watts and literally came free with some cheap surround speakers. Needless to say, the bar was quite low. Cheers!

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@Studio3BRocks

9 ай бұрын

thank you

@AG-en5y

9 ай бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks I bought the 12 inch sub. Thanks for the video.

Is better one HTS12 than two PSW10 finally ?

@Studio3BRocks

2 жыл бұрын

Cleaner. Less boom.

Can we use 4 Subs on 4 corners of a home theatre. How do you think it feels like.

@Studio3BRocks

Ай бұрын

If possible use the method of placing a sub in the prime listening position, then crawling around and listening to where the bass sounds the best.... thats where to place the sub. Repeat this for each of your subs. There are other ways to place subs too based on measurements but I'm not as familiar with that. Also there is simply convenience of location based on power outlet locations and space considerations. Best of luck!

Excellent comparison! Now I make my decision and I will opt for 2 instead of 1. How were the connections you have in the first setup with 2 subwoofers? Amp - Sub (R) Amp - Sub (L) Or Amp - Speaker - Sub (R); Amp - Speaker - Sub (R)

@Studio3BRocks

3 ай бұрын

Y splitter I believe or 2 LFE

Why did you pick HTS 12, instead of more powerful DSW Pro 660wi Sub? since they are similar in driver size, but different in power output. Just wondering....

@Studio3BRocks

Жыл бұрын

First of all I didn’t see 660wi at the time but looking at it now, it seems to have the same power specs. 400 watts. But the 660 wi seems to also have wireless capabilities and other controls. I tend to be a purist and feel I’d like most of the money go to sound quality. I’d be interested in hearing a comparison of the two.

@henrichandrew

Жыл бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks DSW 660wi has wireless capability, but it sold seperately. So you have to purchase the receiver and transmitter, they don't come along as free items. I see, so they have same power 400 w (RMS). I read the specs sheet, the 600wi has lower hz. I agree w/ you. I prefer the HT 12 more, it has beautiful and sleek appearance, also cheaper than 600wi. After using it several months, how you find the deep and crispy bass?

@Studio3BRocks

Жыл бұрын

@@henrichandrew I love the bass and I can’t wait to buy a second one to supplement it. It’s clean and clear and hits low.

@shannonjarvis8766

8 ай бұрын

Just ordered an ht10 for my small 2 channel setup.Looks like I made a good decision. That ht12 sounds so tight and clear! The two 10”s were quite loose and really boomy! Great video!

@shannonjarvis8766

8 ай бұрын

Sorry, meant to put this comment on the main page

What frequency cut did you adjust the Subs to? What is the name of the song you tested? hugs..

@Studio3BRocks

Жыл бұрын

I don’t recall that info. I can dig up the song if needed for you though.

@RBS22

Жыл бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks Yea! I understood. Bro.

@Studio3BRocks

Жыл бұрын

"Explode" by Killrude.

@RBS22

Жыл бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks Thanks! my bro.👊🏻

Do you recommend this sub instead Kef kube 10 for music and movies?

@Studio3BRocks

7 ай бұрын

I have not compared it to Kef. I like the Polk as it is good with music and movies.

@alexyt75029

7 ай бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks Nice. Is it true that this subwoofer has many problems with its amplifier, like dead after a short time?

@Studio3BRocks

7 ай бұрын

I’ve had mine for several years with no issue.

Better this or kef qube 12b

@Studio3BRocks

9 ай бұрын

Let me know your findings.

2 10inch has more surface area to push than a single 12 inch.

@Studio3BRocks

9 ай бұрын

yeah but sound quality is a factor too.

If it fit for Daft punk sound …i am electro fans

@Studio3BRocks

Жыл бұрын

Yes!

Excuse me, shouldn't there be an audio hole drilled into the wall behind your flat screen television monitor and an audio hole drilled into the wall @ the bottom near the floor? I can see an unsightly cord dangling from behind your flat screen television monitor. No offense, but ugh! Hide the cord.

@Studio3BRocks

7 ай бұрын

Horrific sight I am aghast

Sorry really can't tell the difference listening on KZread lol

@Studio3BRocks

3 ай бұрын

I agree

You are comparing 12 to 20 inches. I love polk but REL is the best subwoofer company in my opinion

@Studio3BRocks

Жыл бұрын

12 to 10 inches rather. Yes but for the price?

@burton7023

Жыл бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks two 10,s equal 20"

@Studio3BRocks

9 ай бұрын

It’s not just total bass but quality of bass and power handling etc

@burton7023

9 ай бұрын

@@Studio3BRocks yeah and REL will do better on both accounts and I own both

@g0g0Sutra

4 ай бұрын

@@burton7023While two 10” have more surface are than one 12”, in speakers, two 10” do not equal 20”. Surface are of 2x10” are 157 square inches. Surface are of 1x12” is 113 square inches. Surface are of 1x20” is 312 square inches.