Polar Alignment in N.I.N.A.!!

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Let's try the polar alignment feature in NINA to see how hard/time-consuming it is!
Well, it seems to work, but it does require quite a few iterations, and works best with a high resolution scope that is very well focused!
And if you have any suggestions, please let me know down in the comments!
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  • @bjdiss
    @bjdiss3 жыл бұрын

    Very cool. I appreciate that you sacrificed your time for the community. Now I don't have to bother trying this feature! You're the best!

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha, my pleasure! It was too cloudy for serious imaging anyway! :-)

  • @michaeljarvis4612
    @michaeljarvis46123 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for this polar alignment video. I am in Chicago with Polaris completely blocked. Can’t wait to try this NINA procedure!

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure! Good luck with it, hope it works well for you!

  • @ckturbo911
    @ckturbo9113 жыл бұрын

    I want to thank you again for this video. I have been drift aligning in PHD2 because the polar region is totally blocked for me. We have had cloudy and smokey skies for over a week, so I was not able to try the NINA method until last night. PA in NINA took over 50% less time than my old method and the PA was very good. Thanks, thanks, thanks!

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent to hear that!

  • @markbrown8048
    @markbrown80483 жыл бұрын

    Congratulations Cuiv! Your well over 3000 subscribers👍

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Mark! Next target: 10,000 subs! :-)

  • @FrootyRecords
    @FrootyRecords3 жыл бұрын

    ooo nooo, that routine is a real pain to say the least!, If your in the southern hemi or can't see Polaris then you poor guys/gals maybe have no choice but to use something like this, If not then SharpCap is the definitely the Don here (by light years) for sure. So easy to use, quick and accurate and definitely lazy compatible. I see you doing some great things with Nina but it falls way way short on this. The polar alignment thing for me is the least fun thing to do in this hobby and I want to get it over with as soon as possible :). But again as always , if you hadn't taken your time to show us we would not have known how bad and un-intuitive it was!. So thanks for that Professor Cuiv :)

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Professor Cuiv, sacrificing himself so others can be lazy :) My lot in life!

  • @ysl109812
    @ysl1098123 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, Cuiv! My backyard/balcony is blocked at the north side so I have to do drift align with PHD2 and so far with very limited success. It was a time-consuming and painful process. My autoguiding is still terrible. It was perhaps partly due to my outdated guiding camera, a ZWO asi034mc. (I thought it was a good idea to have a cheap starting point. I was wrong.) I just ordered a QHQ5III178mm and will try PA with NINA when I have the next clear sky. It has been cloudy and raining for a week now in Taipei. Keep up the great work. Your channel has been the most useful guide for a noob like me.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad the channel has been useful! I really hope your 178MM will work great for you, along with the PA!

  • @prnzssLuna
    @prnzssLuna3 жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I need. Easy and simple way to polar align, without having to purchase anything else. I'll try that today

  • @prnzssLuna

    @prnzssLuna

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sure enough, I was outside last night (Germany here so it's already morning :D) and I was able to get within 1 arcmin of error on both axis in less than 15 minutes. I guess with a bit of practice, this could be sped up as well. It's a really nice and comfortable way to do polar alignment. Love it! Thanks for showing!!

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Excellent to hear that it worked well! I also heard CCDCiel (which is free) also has a PA method that is very close to Sharpcap's so something more to look into!

  • @prnzssLuna

    @prnzssLuna

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek I think I'll stay with nina for now. It works really well and one software to install less is also good

  • @zborkz
    @zborkz3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this and other videos you have done. I can't hank you enough for you introducing me to NINA, amazing software. I was hoping you can do a detailed video on guiding and any suggestions to improving overall performance of guiding with PHD2.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Rich! Yes, that's part of the plan as well :)

  • @Calzune
    @Calzune3 жыл бұрын

    Always nice to see NINA videos! But im still going with sharpcap for polaraligning :D

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me too to be honest! :-) But it's nice to know NINA's method is there, for when Polaris is not visible!

  • @NeilW210
    @NeilW2103 жыл бұрын

    Hi Cuiv, thanks for yet another great vid. It has to be said that this is not one of NINA's strongest features though, much as I'm a NJNA fan.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Can't disagree there, although it can be useful when there is no polaris visibility :)

  • @jodyschultz5870
    @jodyschultz58702 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video as always. I think I am going to stick with my 50mm guide scope and asi120mm and Sharpcap. It's just so fast and easy and I can get to less than 20 arc seconds.

  • @alfredobeltran611
    @alfredobeltran6113 жыл бұрын

    Hi Cuiv Thanks for this tutorial. Very useful in locations near to the equatorial line as Bogotá, Colombia, where I live (4.8 degrees north) . I’ve always done DARV, or use the Alignmaster software (very similar to Celestron’s All Star Polar Alignment - ASPA routine), but this seems worth to try. Regards, Alfredo

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope it will work for you Alfredo!

  • @CitizenSniiiips
    @CitizenSniiiips3 жыл бұрын

    Although it's a lot slower than sharpcap it allows those who can't see polaris or octans a great way to get solid alignment. This may actually be relevant to me soon once I move so thanks for showing cuiv. Also hope this doesn't get entirely replaced by a more sharp cap like procedure...

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    I don't think it would get replaced (hopefully!) :)

  • @Codyyyyyyyyyy
    @Codyyyyyyyyyy3 жыл бұрын

    Nice I had no idea NINA had this feature. I've always done the drift alignment method using PHD2 since Polaris isn't visible from my imaging location. I'll have to give this method a shot next time.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope it works well for you! :D

  • @derekderek2570
    @derekderek25703 жыл бұрын

    I would rather scratch my eyeballs out lol (congrats on 3k subs!)

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha don't!! ;D Thank you!

  • @bharathraj5768
    @bharathraj57683 жыл бұрын

    Think we all need an updated video on polar alignment using NINA, Cuiv..

  • @chandrainsky
    @chandrainsky3 жыл бұрын

    This would be a great second option along with DARV for people like me who have lots of difficulty in sighting Polaris. I am sure there developer team will one day make it simpler by providing an intuitive option like "move this star here" by marking a circle or something.

  • @alexgti9345
    @alexgti93453 жыл бұрын

    Hey Cuiv, thanks again for another great tutorial. IMHO this technique is interesting especially when you don't have Polaris in sight. But I'd be very curious to compare this NINA method to the drift alignment, regarding the hassle and the final result. Personally I can use Polaris from my backyard with my Asiair pro PA routine and it is working perfectly well and blazing fast, but with big trees on the south side of my house, I wish I could find an easy (and lazy) way to PA without Polaris in order to move my imaging setup to a place where I could shoot southern targets (and where I can't see Polaris)... I guess the lazy solution is not possible yet! ^^ Super boulot en tout cas, tu nous régales avec tes vidéos, merci!!!

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad this was helpful - et merci beaucoup! I guess there are limits to laziness ;) Clear skies!

  • @dilipsharan8699
    @dilipsharan86993 жыл бұрын

    My EQ6-R came with the Polar scope and I have a clear view of Polaris. Also I have to extend my mount Tripod to it's full height to see over the East & West neighbours fences. So I just use the Polar scope reticle and then let N.I.N.A use ASTAP to plate solve. It works good for me. But I will give this method a go.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds good, good luck! In the end, whatever works and is the easiest is the best :)

  • @M31glow
    @M31glow3 жыл бұрын

    Cuiv, Great post. I have had a recurring thought about higher-end mounts...they should include simple DC motors on Dec and RA adjustment to automatically sync polar alignment via plate solve. Each night you can just toggle polar align before you start the night. Yes, I know once you get good at PA you can do it 5-15 minutes but it would be cool to have.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yep, I completely agree! There's actually one person I know who has added that using motors and an Arduino :)

  • @dztrbdgod

    @dztrbdgod

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek who is that?

  • @ronkramer3476
    @ronkramer34763 жыл бұрын

    I'm sure they'll improve it in time - I'd like to see them use ASIair's PA alignment as a guide. Better than sharpcaps.

  • @gd515051
    @gd5150513 жыл бұрын

    Glad I watched. Don’t need to waste my time with NINA PA.

  • @salomon1639
    @salomon16393 жыл бұрын

    Great video-Polemaster is much easie but thanks for explaining Nina's polar alignment. Like the fact that don't need direct visualization of Polaris. Never used drift alignment with PHD2-maybe in the future you can discuss this technique. Go Spongebob.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I completely agree - Sharpcap remains my preferred method. I need to try out PHD2's method as well at some point!

  • @jdolmana
    @jdolmana3 жыл бұрын

    Hi, the best I know to do this is Alignmaster, you can do polar alignment just having clear West or East. You can do it super fast and quite accurate (depends more on the stars available, for instance in my balcony I can see most of the eas, that means from az=15 to azimuth=160, BUT altitude is limited between alt=8 to alt=42). You just need to slew to a pair of stars of the many options it suggests. You center the first star, then go to the second one and center again. At this point we can adjust ALT and AZ corrections. with a single iteration for each one. First we start adjusting AZ of the mount, the software moves the telescope a bit apart from the star, then using the mount az knob you try to recenter it again the best you can (using live view) , once it is confirmed, the same thing is repeated but this time you use the ALT knob of the mount to adjust the altitude and you are done !! All you need for this process is just a couple of minutes. Accuracy can be increased iterating through the process again one or two more times. But just with a single iteration you can get good results.

  • @joaobicudo8019

    @joaobicudo8019

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've saw a KZread video about getting PA with the Hand-Control with similar routine. I think it was Dylan O'Donnell.

  • @leehunt9930
    @leehunt99303 жыл бұрын

    Not gonna lie, been looking forward to a “how to” on Nina Polar Alignment.. think I’ll stick with SharpCap! Thanks for your efforts though chap! Means I don’t have to waste an evening trying it myself!

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    I waste evenings so you don't have to :D

  • @leehunt9930

    @leehunt9930

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek ❤️ Have a lovely Christmas

  • @phmuller
    @phmuller3 жыл бұрын

    I have been using the ASIAIR Pro for PA, but many times Polaris is covered by clouds, this might work well in these situations, will try it out!

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sounds good! Hope it works well for you!

  • @syeduddinacmacgma9734
    @syeduddinacmacgma97343 жыл бұрын

    Looks like PHD2 drift alignment ... and because of the real time trendline in PHD2, I find that is better option.

  • @przemysawwielochowski2221
    @przemysawwielochowski22213 жыл бұрын

    Hi, Quiv the Lazy Geek or Geek the Lazy Quiv or whatsoever :) Thanks for all the knowledge I've got from your vids. IMHO you make the most informative and enjoyable AstroYTbs. It is the high time for a Q&A, isn't it? Think of it. My question for Q&A is: which sensor (not to mention the brand names) seems to be most suitable for fast refactors like 135-375mm in OSA? For the longer focal lengths or Mono the choice is more obvious. Keep up and carry on :)

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Przemyslaw! Well, it's hard to say, but for OSC I would recommend the 533 or the 2600... The 2600 would have a great FOV!

  • @przemysawwielochowski2221

    @przemysawwielochowski2221

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek Because of the bit depth over the pixel size for resolution over, like ... say 183?

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@przemysawwielochowski2221 Personal preference, really. The resolution of the 183 is nice, but the 533/1600 sensors are better behaved, and I tend to prefer larger pixels for more light collection per pixel over resolution. Any blocky stars can be fixed via dithering, drizzling, and downsampling

  • @przemysawwielochowski2221

    @przemysawwielochowski2221

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek Even with short flenght...OK, I see, thanks :) roger that. It is a difficult choice for me...cause I've got Bortle 4-max 6 skys. So light collection over resolution is a vial question. I will just go full forward and try :)

  • @rudycajuso29
    @rudycajuso293 жыл бұрын

    Hey Cuiv for another great video. I am going to try this method I have no view of either of the poles. I have tried the drift alignment in PHD2 but still can not get a decent alignment. This looks like an easier option for me. Thanks again.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good luck!

  • @BrokenPik
    @BrokenPik3 жыл бұрын

    Great Spongbob imitation of the ( waiting) !!! im going to try it against SC 3.2 polar align final results... see if there is a difference. :-)

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Going to be fun to see the conclusions! Make sure to use your main scope for the NINA side of things. The DARV slew should be the final test though, it's basically an accelerated drift alignment :)

  • @BrokenPik

    @BrokenPik

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek ok , sounds good !!

  • @beatsntoons
    @beatsntoons3 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait until NINA supports the PoleMaster. PoleMaster is a great camera, but their software is not something I enjoy using.

  • @grahamwhite75a
    @grahamwhite75a3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Cuiv, looks like a real faff. I’m going to stick with Sharpcap.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sharpcap is definitely faster and easier if Polaris is visible, that's for sure!

  • @aerions
    @aerions3 жыл бұрын

    I'd rather use sharpcap IMO. I've gotten to the point of getting within 10 arc seconds of the NCP within 5 minutes. Cool to see NINA's features though

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same! Sharpcap is still my main method of alignment. But I wanted to present what NINA had :)

  • @realmcerono
    @realmcerono3 жыл бұрын

    Sharpcap may be easier but it wont work if polaris is not in view. I recommend phd2 drift align for that case but will try ninas solution anyway. To slew to dec 0 at the meridian you should use stellarium, click on the dec0 meridian on the map, plate solve, adjust (phd2 can do this by pressing one button), done.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good solution for the pointing part! Thanks for the tip!

  • @ckturbo911

    @ckturbo911

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hi there. I have no access to Polaris or even the polar region, so I also drift align in phd2. I also use Stellarium, so I understand clicking on the map which is what I do, but I don't understand plate solve and the one button thing. Could you please elaborate? Thanks.

  • @Martinko_Pcik
    @Martinko_Pcik3 жыл бұрын

    In July 2021 there is a new NINA plugin available that does the 3 point polar alignment and it seems much easier process. This one is too clicky compared to a new one which, when added to the sequencer, automatically works on the background and gives you feedback on how to move the mount.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    2 жыл бұрын

    Oh wow! I need to try that!

  • @ckturbo911
    @ckturbo9113 жыл бұрын

    Hi Cuiv. I have no access to Polaris, so I drift align in PHD2. This can't be any more time consuming than that, so I'm going to give it a try. Had no idea NINA had that feature. I'm a little confused about the values I should enter for Meridian offset and declination. Here in Savannah Georgia, our Meridian timezone offset is 75 degrees West. Is that the number I put in Meridian offset? I suppose declination is just the declination of where I am pointing to do PA? For me, this video is extremely valuable and helpful, even if it just saves me 5 minutes. I set up my scope and do PA every clear night. I don't have a permanent setup. Thanks very much for this video!

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Glad this is helpful! Just use the values in the video for pointing West, and 20 and 0 for pointing East, that should work! Alternatively, just use planetarium software to point towards the Western or Eastern horizon!

  • @arnsteindale5531
    @arnsteindale55313 жыл бұрын

    Great videoes LG - I wonder if NINA supports Moraian cameraes?

  • @astrodad656
    @astrodad6563 жыл бұрын

    Interesting for sure. However, I am a Polemaster addict.

  • @pawansingh2126
    @pawansingh21263 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video. I will have to try this out. Can you do a video on PHD2 drift alignment and PHD2 standard polar alignment? I do not know if people know that PHD2 has two ways of polar alignment.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure! I'm thinking about making such a video as well!

  • @stelaras1
    @stelaras13 жыл бұрын

    useful info, my balcony faces north west thus i cannot see Polaris, i will try this or PHD2 drift alignment, thank you :)

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    My pleasure, I hope it works!

  • @richardsauerbrun2412
    @richardsauerbrun24123 жыл бұрын

    Hello Cuiv ... I am guessing you have been busy with your job as I am missing the frequency of your great videos! I have a question on Polar Alignment ... have you ever used the OHY PoleMaster camera and app? I have been using it for several months and find it very easy and very accurate. After watching this video, however, I am going to use NINA to run the process and see how good (or not) it really is.

  • @JVRost
    @JVRost3 жыл бұрын

    They did not bother themselves while creating this section of the program, made the classic drift method and calmed down, but what if there is no open horizon? Then you are not here.) You can do the same thing faster and more clearly in the same PHD

  • @peitaoyan1000
    @peitaoyan10003 жыл бұрын

    Hey Cuiv, so I'd say this is a great polar alignment routine when you are completely blocked from the celestial poles, works similar to drift alignment but more accurate. So this shouldn't be compared with SharpCap but more with PHD2 drift alignment assistant, I suppose?

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    You're absolutely right - but I haven't tried PHD2 Drift Alignment assistant yet, I need to get to it :)

  • @Durkan34

    @Durkan34

    3 жыл бұрын

    I feel a follow up video coming.... 😉

  • @Disnamesucksass

    @Disnamesucksass

    2 жыл бұрын

    Phd2 drift align is what i use in southern hemisphere. Neighbors aerial is in way of the pole too. I can reliably dial in +/- 1.5" on an eq6-r which gets me up to 20min exposures at 1420mm

  • @peitaoyan1000

    @peitaoyan1000

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Disnamesucksass There is a new 3 point platesolve polar alignment plugin in NINA, I've been using both to do a very fast rough alignment and maybe use phd drift to confirm it. Drift is accurate but very slow to begin with.

  • @garyrear
    @garyrear3 жыл бұрын

    I'm too lazy to try that out 😉🤐

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was as well, but too many requests from subscribers :D It was fun to try out though!

  • @MaheshChandimal

    @MaheshChandimal

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @riaandewinnaar5040
    @riaandewinnaar50403 жыл бұрын

    Would it be possible to use main imaging scope/camera to poler align with OAG?

  • @jurgenlemke4813
    @jurgenlemke48133 жыл бұрын

    Hi Cuiv, I did the pole alignment with my Alt AD6 mount (load 75 kg class mount). The altitude error was about 3 minutes too low. If I call the program again, there is a value of e.g. 4 minutes too high, i.e. sometimes too high and sometimes too low, without having changed anything on the mount. What accuracy of the settings can I expect?

  • @IMCDundee
    @IMCDundee3 жыл бұрын

    Hi Cuiv,PHD2 has drift alignment,and is free,have you tried it and if so ,have you found much difference between the two?

  • @samh4232
    @samh4232 Жыл бұрын

    Could you possibly do a Nina Polar align with a tracker...if possible Thanks

  • @tjeyko40
    @tjeyko403 жыл бұрын

    Is it reasonable to think that NINA would deal with large errors in polar alignment better than Sharpcap? I'm trying to get polar aligned while using a Celestron HD Pro Wedge (for the first time in years), and I suspect I'm quite a ways off to start with.

  • @deeber35
    @deeber352 жыл бұрын

    I have a DSLR, tracker, and manual mount. Can I still use NINA? Can I choose manually where the 3 points are used?

  • @johnjames378
    @johnjames3783 жыл бұрын

    I'm WAY to lazy to do this. SharpCap still for me. Great tutorial as always! Just one comment, is there a way to set manual focus on your recording camera for your videos? My eyes go crazy when you go out of focus.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here, Sharpcap is still what I'll use! And yes, I can set manual focus - actually my next video uses manual focus, and the whole second half is slightly out of focus. Sigh.... Sorry about that.

  • @johnjames378

    @johnjames378

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek Lol, it's always something. You need a camera person.

  • @mikhailkochiev4583
    @mikhailkochiev4583 Жыл бұрын

    Could not find it, is it still there or replaced by 3-point alignment plugin?

  • @titou0666
    @titou06663 жыл бұрын

    Hello I would like to do a polar alignment but I have no visual on the north and west and on the south I only have 10 degrees above the horizon. I have replayed your video dozens of times but I cannot hear the data you give for the case where the East is visible. Thank you in advance for your help. Didier alias Astrozorg.

  • @MaheshChandimal
    @MaheshChandimal3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much for the video. I am also going to try this out. I would like to know how close to the horizon should the scope point when doing altitude adjustment. And how long will it take the whole process to complete? I am using PEMPro polar alignment at the moment which usually takes 1 - 1.5 hours to complete. Will I be able to save a considerable time by switching to this method? Thank you

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Check out Sharpcap and PHD2 polar align as well. Sharpcap is a couple of minutes, NINA or PHD2 should be around 15-20 minutes. Good luck!

  • @thimitri1
    @thimitri12 жыл бұрын

    Hi Cuiv.. I'm new to this plug in.. I've loaded ASTAP plate solver but for some reason NINA is failing the plate solve when imaging.. I have ASTAP in the same folder as you and I've pointed NINA to the file location.. I can't figure out why it keeps failing.. I wonder if you could help.. thank you...

  • @y2ukr87
    @y2ukr873 жыл бұрын

    Hi Cuiv, what software do you use for guiding? Is it PHD2? If yes, how did you connect your guide camera (I guess it is QHY5L-II) to your laptop? I've just bought one and could not achieve stable connection.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    I use PHD2 indeed - I used to have issues with the camera as well (not just from PHD2) with my old ASUS laptop, and never could fix the issue... I would say to try with the ASCOM driver? Good luck!

  • @y2ukr87

    @y2ukr87

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek Hi Cuiv, thanks! Just in case someone has the same issues, I finally made it work. It didn't want to work with ASCOM driver default setting. Using USB2.0 hub, bringing up USB traffic setting (up to 135) and 2x2 binning helped.

  • @captainwasabi
    @captainwasabi3 жыл бұрын

    hmm, this might work from my porch, House to the south, trees to the north, east and awning to the west. such a small range of view.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    I hope it does work, it seems quite tight indeed!

  • @captainwasabi

    @captainwasabi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek I tried for an hour+, it was impossible. It would be off in one direction, make aduistments, then it was off MORE in the wrong direction. And back and forth. ugh. Then I just skipped all that and went straight to the DARV slew. In 10 minutes I was aligned. (One note: to verify altitude setting with DARV you needed to slew back over to the horizon and run DARV again.)

  • @giamas72
    @giamas722 жыл бұрын

    Hello Cuiv, nice to see you healthy again. I had recently an issue with this polar alignment plug in. I found that, if I stop procedure while it's running (for example to change position from which I'm going to start it - because plate solving is falling too much time at latest step), my mount it's stopping to track at all. Did you find something similar? Is it a wrong settings I got. In case, please, tell me what I have to change, thanks

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    2 жыл бұрын

    I haven't tried to stop the 3PPA plugin (the new plugin right? The old polar alignment in this video is now very obsolete), so I can't confirm...

  • @giamas72

    @giamas72

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek please try you too. and let me know about it. I saw that in the NINA Equipment > Telescope the "set tracking rate" is always blank.. why? is it related some how according to you?

  • @AnakChan
    @AnakChan3 жыл бұрын

    I've tried this twice on separate nights in the southern hemisphere and unfortunately didn't have much luck. Somewhere between the plate solving and slewing, N.I.N.A. switched the "Follow Object" mode to off in my Starbook Ten and platesolving failed.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Too bad... that's a bummer. Have you tried CCD Ciel as an alternative? I *think* it works in the Southern Hemisphere...

  • @AnakChan

    @AnakChan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the pointer! I didn't know about CCD Ciel nor its Polar Alignment capability. I'll give it a shot the next cloudless window I got. Otherwise it's been a pain to switch back 'n forth between N.I.N.A. (for focusing/acquisition) & ASIAir Pro (for PA) - no, I'm not subscribing to SharpCap...yet?

  • @james123j1
    @james123j13 жыл бұрын

    I am sure it is accurate but it looks like a ton of effort compared to the ASIAir Pro or Polemaster! Out of interest what is the mounting system you are using for the camera/lens/guidecam etc?

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's actually a pair of rings from a Japanese maker called Electricsheep...www.electricsheep.co.jp/astroshop/?itemcode=esring01

  • @felipeleon_astrofotos
    @felipeleon_astrofotos3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, thanks a lot for your videos! Have a question: Is there a way to use these tools to get polar alignment with a skyguider? I realize this one doesn't have a goto function, but maybe doing some manual process with the mount may help getting these same results. Thanks in advance!

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    (Edit: this answer is wrong - I am keeping it for posterity, but no, you unfortunately cannot use that with the Skyguider) You can absolutely do this with a Skyguider - you just need to manually point West or East, and then South. You'll have to be vary careful when adjusting the direction of the camera that you don't bump the skyguider out of alignment though, and that can be delicate...

  • @felipeleon_astrofotos

    @felipeleon_astrofotos

    3 жыл бұрын

    ​@@CuivTheLazyGeek Excellent news! Thanks a lot for your answer, I'll try that. I've been learning a lot with your YT Channel. Greetings from Chile!

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@felipeleon_astrofotos Felipe, sorry I have spoken too quickly and I made a mistake in my answer! The process will only have the buttons enabled if you have an ASCOM mount connected... so not this won't work with the Skyguider, sorry...

  • @arisposonidis
    @arisposonidis3 жыл бұрын

    I don't see AZGTi mount in equipment's list. Not any good?

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's good! I'm just forgetful :) I added it, thank you!

  • @whatmattersmost6725
    @whatmattersmost67253 жыл бұрын

    Sorry I got a bit confused and lost Cuiv, maybe do a comparison of SharpCap & NINA Polar align PLEASE? Is there any other NINA Polar align videos to help me?

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    At what point? You may want to ask on the Discord channel! Sorry the video was unclear...

  • @drkumarharaprasadmisra5562
    @drkumarharaprasadmisra55622 жыл бұрын

    Can I do this with manual tracking

  • @TheHelicapt
    @TheHelicapt3 жыл бұрын

    Are you using the guide camera for this or main camera ?

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Best is to use the main camera, so any issues with the alignment are more visible

  • @Philip-KA4KOE
    @Philip-KA4KOE3 жыл бұрын

    Well, if I can use NINA and get away with not bending down with my already bad knees (Indiana Jones..."It's not the years, it's the mileage"), or spending extra filthy lucre on a camera that fits in the telescope, then I'm all for it.

  • @derekderek2570

    @derekderek2570

    3 жыл бұрын

    and by the time you complete this process you can pop on your solar filter and get some nice images of the morning sun! lol

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's a decent solution that seems to work well - and yes Derek, it does take longer (and I'll keep using Sharpcap!) but overall once you're used to it it's around 5-10 minutes :D But we can make it drag on until dawn :D

  • @cucubits
    @cucubits3 жыл бұрын

    Does this work without a goto mount? Can I slew manually and have NINA do its thing?

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Unfortunately I don't think so - you need to have an ASCOM connection to the mount, and the mount should accept slew commands...

  • @ronkramer3476
    @ronkramer34763 жыл бұрын

    I love NINA but this seems really weak. (why I've not tried it). Not sure if NINA folks are aware of ASIair... it has a PA alignment built in that is SUPERB. Signed: the Lay-Z imager

  • @alexchong1979
    @alexchong19793 жыл бұрын

    next is cable management ! xD

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Noooo, cable management is my weakness!! :)

  • @DavidSomersHarris
    @DavidSomersHarris3 жыл бұрын

    Would doing PA with N.I.N.A work with a Star tracker like Star Adventurer or SkyGuider Pro that can only move along the RA axis and don’t have azimuth or Goto functionality?

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's going to be more difficult, as you need to kind of fiddle with the mount, which usually will slightly move its RA axis...I would recommend Sharpcap instead

  • @DavidSomersHarris

    @DavidSomersHarris

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@CuivTheLazyGeek I guess your money needs to go somewhere, either the hardware or the software :p Thanks for the tip!

  • @jcinaz
    @jcinaz3 жыл бұрын

    I just read a very long-winded explanation of what Declination 0 is. In all the explanation, there was no mention that Dec 0 is simply the position of the Celestial Equator. Dec 0 = Celestial Equator. Can it get any simpler?

  • @gloubiboulgazeblob
    @gloubiboulgazeblob3 жыл бұрын

    Better use the drift alignment method, it'll be faster and no need of any softwares...

  • @jimpollard5920
    @jimpollard59203 жыл бұрын

    Ok...so how come when it says to point towards the East/West at declination zero, you point at 180*? I know...noob question lol

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Sorry I can't recall exactly what I did during that video :) But I'm pretty sure it made sense!

  • @jcinaz
    @jcinaz3 жыл бұрын

    @Cuiv: At 4:21, you set telescope Declination to 180º and Meridian offset to 110º because you say you're pointing West. HUH? I really do not understand your math. I can see that if you point to the East, then Dec would be 0 and Meridian offset would be 90-20=70. But pointing pointing West, I do not understand how you get Dec 180 and Meridian offset 110. To me, Declination should always be 0 and Meridian offset is plus or minus from 90. I need to read the documentation to make sense out of what values to use there.

  • @StarlancerAstro
    @StarlancerAstro3 жыл бұрын

    Interesting but too clunky for me, rest of NINA is great though, I do suppose you can be quite accurate this way

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah I do agree - for me Sharpcap is still the way to go, as I have a clear view of Polaris... But it's good to know it's available!

  • @Durkan34
    @Durkan343 жыл бұрын

    Seems quite slow to do? Well in comparison to sharpcap

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    It definitely takes more time than Sharpcap, which is what I'll keep using for now. But for people without direct view of the celestial pole, it can be very useful!

  • @Martinko_Pcik
    @Martinko_Pcik3 жыл бұрын

    As a beginner I have no idea what was going on

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah that's not the most accessible video - you may want to start with my playlist on starting astrophotography for lazy people!

  • @nikivan
    @nikivan3 жыл бұрын

    It is unlikely I'll be using this method, which can only mean I am even lazier than you.

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same for me to be honest - I'm still using Sharcap. But I needed to test this! :)

  • @Osti67
    @Osti673 жыл бұрын

    Too lazy.. Sharpcap is awesome for Polar Alignment, the N.I.N.A approach is quite enervating... Me no likey.......

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    I agree - Sharpcap is still my goto technique. It's good to know the feature is there though!

  • @yosmith1
    @yosmith13 жыл бұрын

    yikes

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Indeed :D

  • @saahilsinha5558
    @saahilsinha55583 жыл бұрын

    first

  • @CuivTheLazyGeek

    @CuivTheLazyGeek

    3 жыл бұрын

    YOU WIN!! :D

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