Poker Math: Using the 2x4 method to convert from outs to percentages

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  • @Pokernerve
    @Pokernerve5 жыл бұрын

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  • @chefmikeankh6434

    @chefmikeankh6434

    9 ай бұрын

    Thank you. Can you explain why you use the x2 and x4? The reason and formula please.

  • @johnconnor2053
    @johnconnor2053 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks M8, it’s a great refresher. 👍

  • @kadenvaillancourt8997
    @kadenvaillancourt89975 жыл бұрын

    watching you at the final table in 109 bounty builder right now! GL

  • @DJcyberslash
    @DJcyberslash2 жыл бұрын

    The best video on this strategy

  • @kevinross1998
    @kevinross1998 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice. Quick and easy to understand.

  • @drgregoryhouse1470
    @drgregoryhouse14708 күн бұрын

    @2:04 If you say the opponent has a small pocket pair, i would say you have 16 outs, 4 queens, 3 Aces, 3 Kings, 3 jacks and 3 Ts

  • @Goodthief
    @Goodthief29 күн бұрын

    Thanks i needed this

  • @user-yg1dg6xm2g
    @user-yg1dg6xm2g8 ай бұрын

    The ability to calculate pot odds is highly stressed, but in No-Limit (NL) poker, situations where you can make a favorable call based on these odds are few and far between.

  • @shivasirons6159
    @shivasirons6159 Жыл бұрын

    Whats the most outs you can have? A flush draw with open ended plus 2 overs? So 21 ?

  • @smack311magic

    @smack311magic

    Жыл бұрын

    Flop is 776 with two clubs. You have 98 clubs. Assuming the opponent is on an under pair you have 24 outs since if another six comes it counterfeits his underpair. On the turn you could have 27 outs if another overcard comes since if it pairs on the river it also counterfeits his underpair.

  • @harryew
    @harryewКүн бұрын

    Have I misunderstood? With 8 outs and 47 cards left in the deck, that's 17% not 32%...?

  • @taf8903
    @taf8903 Жыл бұрын

    The second example hand also has a possible straight. How many outs would this add? Would I take 4 Q and 4 T and divide by 2 for 11 total outs?

  • @kylerother3146

    @kylerother3146

    Жыл бұрын

    No. What you're talking about are called 'implied odds'. The 4-2 rule simply calculates your odds of immediately improving in a hand. In that second example, if the turn is a non-heart Queen, then your hand hasn't improved at all (still A high), but your odds to the river have improved from just the 9 flush outs to join the four 10 outs (plus the 6 remaining aces and kings), bringing you to 18 total outs (don't count the 10H twice!). So, to put it simply, since a queen or a ten would NOT immediately improve your hand on the turn, they don't get factored in at this stage.

  • @zakthesquirrel7621

    @zakthesquirrel7621

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kylerother3146 very instructive, thank you

  • @chi111y
    @chi111y5 жыл бұрын

    whats your email? I have some sick poker hands from the weekend to you may want to feature on your site.!

  • @egeayvala1799
    @egeayvala1799 Жыл бұрын

    okay imagine this heads up one player has King of Hearts and King of Clubs i have 87 Diamonds flop is 5 (diamond) 6(diamond) and 8 (heart) computer tells me i have 64% chance of winning with 20 outs which should be 20x4=80 from 8 to 20 the difference is 12 so 80-12=68% but computer says its 64% because of some Tie probablities how does it calculate the tie possibilities also in the same example-if player with kings has-KIng of diamonds my outs become 19- so same will apply 19x4=72 difference being 72-11 63% but computer says its 61% i dont get the Tie thing

  • @egeayvala1799

    @egeayvala1799

    Жыл бұрын

    i mean i can visualise what can happen but i dont know how does it calculate it

  • @demorogaming8835

    @demorogaming8835

    10 ай бұрын

    If you’re asking how you calculate tie odds effectively, you don’t. The computer does it by simulating every possible turn and river combination.

  • @WilfredVyvyan
    @WilfredVyvyan Жыл бұрын

    When do you calculate these?

  • @Kingwaste

    @Kingwaste

    10 ай бұрын

    On the flop.

  • @fingertapper88
    @fingertapper883 жыл бұрын

    This is fuckin brilliant

  • @aidenw6862
    @aidenw6862 Жыл бұрын

    I need to know how to calculate percentage of WINNING a hand based on number of players still in

  • @taf8903

    @taf8903

    Жыл бұрын

    There are a lot of other factors involved than just the number of players involved (eg. opponents range)

  • @aidenw6862

    @aidenw6862

    Жыл бұрын

    ​@@taf8903 I know but I'm trying to make a script and am trying to think of a formula

  • @demorogaming8835

    @demorogaming8835

    10 ай бұрын

    @@aidenw6862there is no single formula that will be accurate unless you know the definitive range and pattern tendency’s of your opponents.

  • @michaelgonzalez4819

    @michaelgonzalez4819

    4 ай бұрын

    @@aidenw6862so after a year did you find out your formula

  • @chefmikeankh6434
    @chefmikeankh64349 ай бұрын

    I’d rather play in person. Online uses bots and superbots

  • @janvdplaat3067
    @janvdplaat30672 жыл бұрын

    Calculating without explaining is difficult to follow. Calculated: 9 outs on 47 (52 -3 -2) remaing cards on flop= 19% to turn missed? 9 outs on 46 remaining cards on turn = 19,5% to river 19% + 19,5% = 38,5% 😁 According to you it should be 35%. That could be right if you explained that this 3,5% reduction is because the villain hit the nuts. But how do we know he hits it? And calculating pot odds two steps ahead is dangerous. What if the villlain raises the turn, after we missed??? 😉. .

  • @michaelberkery7081

    @michaelberkery7081

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey what’s the calculation for the 4th poker flop at 4:06

  • @StorasSenis

    @StorasSenis

    2 жыл бұрын

    Your calculations are incorrect. You cannot add probabilities like that.

  • @dr.greenthumb5092

    @dr.greenthumb5092

    2 жыл бұрын

    These calculations are based on your own perspective on the game. You are unaware of what the villain will have, you will never know until the showdown. Therefore we use maths with numbers and probabilities that we can confirm are 100%. The OP could have many different hands with many different ranges, bet sizing is also a big thing to understand too, so that you can begin to gain a proper feel for what people are playing in their hand. Instead of thinking, maybe they have A,Ko or something, you could be trying to understand their play style, what ranges would the OP be betting for? What could the OP have tried to play, possibly failed, and now is trying to pull a bluff. All reads are possible at the tables, its just weather or not you can read their plays. Some people online play crazy, Live poker will always be profitable as long as you have your study down. Hope this helped, and happy hunting at the tables, GL and HF

  • @DJcyberslash

    @DJcyberslash

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelberkery7081 It's 13 hearts minus 3 = 10 outs × 4 = 40% - 2% = 38% chance of hitting the flush on the turn

  • @onlyonearmy2521
    @onlyonearmy25216 ай бұрын

    Had to watch it multiple time to follow along. Maybe use a better presentation? 😂😂😂

  • @chefmikeankh6434
    @chefmikeankh64349 ай бұрын

    Online poker is a rip off. Cheaters

  • @trueking-xb6gr

    @trueking-xb6gr

    6 ай бұрын

    I agree

  • @stanleyprayther7651
    @stanleyprayther7651 Жыл бұрын

    This doesn't explain a thing 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎 next time explain it better