Hello, is this the Wandering Path support group?

@weebindenial3493

2 ай бұрын

Take a seat buddy

@asrabeats

2 ай бұрын

Hello, my name is Asra and I have a Wandering Path problem.

@chuckmeister6240

2 ай бұрын

Hello, my name is chuck. Sorry i'm late.

@Icezapp1

2 ай бұрын

Hello my name is Ice and I walk left and right on this tree since there is no path to wander on it anymore :(

@rockbmxps2

2 ай бұрын

:(

Thanks for the great, concise content, as always!

@CrouchingTuna

2 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Thanks for the guide. I think I’ll put the first 7 points into expedition then rush to unwavering vision. Just when I’m 7 points away from unwavering vision I’ll take the 7 points away from expedition then get unwavering vision. Then I’ll have 20 points, I’ll put the 7 points back into expedition then have 13 points to play with

FYI in Expedition wheel, the one with Oppenheimer node, you no longer skip those 2 nodes on the right - one of them is chance for encounter :) but yeah, skipping them is in my muscle memory too lol

the exact video i need, thank you

Amazing thank you for the work

I too am contemplating rushing Unwavering Vision....That Expedition + breach just on the right of the start is hot.

Thanks for the tips!

I'll probably get 4 points in Jun at the start before going for the keystone, it's 40% chance to spawn and really nice early on for exp and gearing through veiled items. after I get the keystone I will probably go for all the shrine stuff and Niko chance+packed with energy, you can pretty much guarantee him in every map as well as two shrines every map which is a huge power boost early on. I don't think I will spec all the small nodes for the chance of adjacent map as I never really found map sustain an issue.

@BIGPILGRIM420

2 ай бұрын

I'm doing the same but why would you type that last sentence into a comment? you've ruined your luck and will be stuck in yellows, stock up on kirac missions!

@P.J.M

2 ай бұрын

its not so much about map sustain as it is being able to target a specific map that you lack completion for

@CARRION-ss6en

2 ай бұрын

Map sustain when 100500 bots on market with cheap maps and insta invites. Smart xddddd

@simpuff9017

2 ай бұрын

@@CARRION-ss6en Some people play SSF mate.

@Jaycee1y

2 ай бұрын

@@simpuff9017 smartest trade player

nearly identical to the tree i had planned for myself! maybe i am finally beginning to understand this game

@tabeticemperor1814

2 ай бұрын

i was gunna say this exactly

@madhatten5123

2 ай бұрын

Next let’s discuss damage scaling between attack and spell based builds. Do you have a degree in mathematics?

@valjohnson7112

2 ай бұрын

@@madhatten5123 lol. im still many miles away being able to calculate damage. im just happy to be getting a handle on the most basic of basics in this crazy game.

@madhatten5123

2 ай бұрын

@@valjohnson7112 Don't feel bad I have played thousands of hours and I there are lots of stuff that confuse the shit out of me still.

@KAJYT6969

2 ай бұрын

You don't really need a crazy amount of knowledge to understand additive and multiplicative multipliers, when the multipliers take place, order of operations, etc. basically huge single number = bad, medium number of each = good @@madhatten5123

the multiple skill tree is just a cherry on the top, farming will be VERY fun this league and foward because of this QoL.

I want to play cold-dot build again, any recommended guides pls? Awesome video btw love you

thanks for the guide

With the small nodes making it easier to access content remember Niko is easier to spawn (easily hit 60% chance) so "packed with energy" can be really good value

ty for doing this job

Watchstones havnt been nerfed they just added additional chance for t17 drop on top of what they already do.

@CrouchingTuna

2 ай бұрын

Doesn't seem that way from how it's worded in patch notes.

@stefanb.6317

2 ай бұрын

@CrouchingTuna Are you sure about that? It just says "Voidstones each now provide..." and not the usually used wording of "... XYZ removed. Instead now ..."

@CrouchingTuna

2 ай бұрын

@@stefanb.6317 I'm not sure. but it seems like "now provide" sound like instead of. I hope I'm wrong though cos otherwise map sustain going to be a bit rough.

@Z1nD

2 ай бұрын

@@CrouchingTuna Thats a great question to submit to ziz for tonights interview? clarification here is key for planning a early t16 strat.

its pretty cool for SSF getting 100% delirium , kirac mod beyond and 100% legion

Thank you, Mr. Fish

which league starter u will be making? if there will be ofc any guides

There’s 2 Kirac wheels added at the bottom left and right I might be picking up as well

I'd add betrayal, no master missions means you'll probably need to supplement to get your unveils

@simpuff9017

2 ай бұрын

Yeah thats my goal as well. Im gettin Unwavering first and use those 20 points to some the 40% Jun cluster + map connected. Once i have all the connected, i take the 2 other Jun clusters for chances of beating Catarina earlier

What do you think of farming strongboxes early for cartographer strongboxes?

I'd take the 40% einhar for 3 points too, and maybe the einhar stays if you're doing a pure mapping build. going for like caches + huck (you kinda need an aura), einhar and niko boost gives you a huge boost early for not that many points if you're playing a non meta build that needs the help. like gull, blunderbore, soulthirst + res flask (even with the nerf, 200% as for like 5c is really nice early), shrines and those and you'll make almost any attack build feel strong on like a 50c budget. you will need to get a new tree, but I think if you're playing a build that needs help to start but still want to fill your atlas it's gonna be a nice way to start note that this is a solution for when you're in trade and relatively slow so you can take a bit more time to maps and cut some of the less efficient extra map nodes.

Def Jun right away, but then rush unwavering and then shrines. Follow up with expedition and then I am thinking of abyss - good exp and density and the chance at a good 5-6 jewel is the dopamine I’m looking for.

I love Tuna's smile whenever he's talking

Are you going to be better or worse off heading into sanctum instead pf maps on league start?

Rushing that keystone is the first thing I thought about too, but is it really convenient? From the Kirac node it still takes 12 points to go there so what you really gain is 8 points and if you don't plan to do mechanics around that area and actually make use of the remaining 12, is it really worth considering you can't drop/use scarabs and make null several small nodes?

@valjohnson7112

2 ай бұрын

good point. its probably only worth it if you are already planning to take something near there. scarabs twice as powerful as ever before is kind of a big thing to give up

@Evil_Arthas

2 ай бұрын

Also thought of that, im not a big Expedition enjoyer on early stage (Because most of the time im running under geared) - but close pathing to shrines sounds like a good idea for weaker builds, otherwise its probably still worth it to get your June and stuff faster (but you lose on 3 tiers of scarabs, so idunno).

Are you sure the voidstone's effect "Maps dropped in areas have 25% chance to be 1 tier higher" was removed and not simply reworded to only effect tier 1-15s? PoE Planner has similar wording for the "shaping of..." nodes. I could not find any mention of this in the patch notes but you seem confident, could you point me towards where it says that?

Thank you for the video! Question, if I’m trying to rush atlas progression, when should I be using my kirac missions? Should I be running his missions first and every time I get one? Or should I be running my highest tier maps until I get stuck then I should resort to kirac? Or do I wait until I only have completed maps in my stash so I should use his missions to do uncompleted maps?

@maxcimander188

2 ай бұрын

best that you look up some guide on kirac missions or some videos from ziz i think for early map/atlas progression mention how to do it correctly.

I will start maps + jun + harvest for my first tree. Crafting -mana rings is a very good income early on and safehouse XP is a huge bonus. After that, either blight in T16, or essence + einharr in T6.

@maxcimander188

2 ай бұрын

so you going half mapper / half bosser? what build exactly im going LA Deadeye, blasting like theres no tomorrow

@Ceen328

2 ай бұрын

@@maxcimander188 Not sure about the build yet. If I play a map blaster, I'll go essence + beasts in T16/7. If I play more of a tanky build, I'll play blight in T16 and maybe farm some T17. SRS Necro comes to mind for something like that.

Depends of the cartography scarabs, maybe it's a good idea just target farming that type of scarabs for atlas completion.

honestly if youre no trushing the +20 node first then hitting the delve nodes, youre missing out on so much speed for clearing and early mapping.

So we don't get both effects on the watchstones old and new? Bcs in the patchnotes its only saying like added funtion not "removed xyz" and added?

Every other league I would comment something snarky and/or anrgy along the lines of "Expedition is dogshit and boring", but with us having 3 atlas trees, I'm actually totally down for this.

Where does it say that Voidstones don't increase map tier drop by 25%? I see the line in the patchnotes stating they each give 0.5% chance to turn T16->T17, but I figured like the other atlas nodes they would've kept the 25% and just made it apply to maps Tier 1-15?

What do you think about going completely the other way and invest a lot into scarabs and cartography scarabs in particular?

@OnePiece4ev3r

2 ай бұрын

I think scarab nodes testing is gonna be for when he reaches red maps

I'm not sure the voidstones won't have the +1 tier as well as the tier 17 drop rate. I think that is an addition, not a replacement.

If we remove after taking unwawering vision will it delete random 20 points?

Thanks master blaster

At what point you spec new Atlas? Gonna play SSF and im not sure when to "respec", like when i have 50 T16 maps or earlier and how many map nodes to keep/remove then.

@benjaminschmitt3225

2 ай бұрын

I’d say when you have your atlas “complete” then you will have all your points for a final tree. Map sustain isn’t the issue, it’s completing them all.

im thinking of skipping the adjacent map nodes and going for extra content for map sustain from the start, like strongboxes and stuff

@bloodthirstytft7416

2 ай бұрын

Connected map is not for sustaing high amount of maps but to target uncompleted maps via connection.

Kirac, hear our prayer.

Just my personal opinion, but I think Delve might be extra useful this league. First, grabbing Packed with Energy earlier will make it easier to progress (and survive) your higher level maps. Also, Delve will likely be a refreshing break from having to do the whole league mechanic before each map.

@DisabledMemer

2 ай бұрын

delve is ass tho

@jugaming3808

2 ай бұрын

Map sustain is going to be harder this league and guess what Delve drops a lot of?

Is betrayal not considered that good anymore for early progression? Like does expedition do it just better with early gear xp?

@CrouchingTuna

2 ай бұрын

early gear and currency to fast progress is pretty op i think. betrayal is decent for getting crafts and xp also though. many people do betrayal early.

so is that unweavering vision rly worth it? with the changes on scarabs and the fact you need to spend many points to even get access to this node, at first doesn't seem to worth it

Im not sure if this loan 20 points is good if we need to waste 12 point to even get there so basically we just getting 8 points xD. We are losing points on 12 map completion to get 8 more points idk if its worth. We are losing scarabs that can help us later but if im wrong pls tell why.

Mon 25/03/2024 Tuna - "go hard in" Community - "haha that's what she said"

Can you do a poe planner link?

how do you get another atlas passive tree?

How does Kirac work now you dont have missions for masters? Does Kirac atill have them?

@fish_bulb

2 ай бұрын

Kirac missions are still there as normal, it's just the other masters that have gone.

I am super concerned about map sustain this league. The patch note says Voidstones each now provide "Tier 16 Maps dropped in Areas have 0.5% chance to become a Tier 17 Map for each Socketed Voidstone". If that means that line replaces the chance for maps to drop at a higher tier on the current voidstones, map sustain might be a real problem. I hope I am wrong!

@tiend3220

2 ай бұрын

I think that line would be in addition to the current buff. I double it would be removed personally

@KroliczySyn

2 ай бұрын

​@@tiend3220 on wiki update said that "Each Voidstone also grants" about chance for t17 map. Hope that is true but we shall see if we get any official info about it

How do you look at the new atlas tree? I don't know where to find it.

@LittleRedRubberDuck

2 ай бұрын

He linked it in the description

@papabear381590

2 ай бұрын

@@LittleRedRubberDuck cool ty.

I allocated Unwavering vision. Yet scarabs still drop for me. Is that intended?

Why do you think Blight is strong in this league? I kept hearing it is nerfed due to stack decks being nerfed.

Put Dunkyi in the Jar

essentially :D

I know going for the bonus points is probably optimal, but I'm gonna have to try and force going for all the scarab nodes I can first, I'm pretty hype for it.

how is this powered by Eleventh hour games? :x

woukd you do the same for a duo mf early? how about no rog?

You spend 12 nodes, 3 of them being dead nodes, to gain 20 nodes, at the cost of 0 scarabs dropping. Not sure that 8 nodes seems worth it to me?

i honestly hate expedition but other then that awesome tree with wandering path dead

You're using 12 points to reach a notable that gives you 20 points, at the cost of never dropping any scarabs. On top of that, half of your early mapping progression is taking practically useless nodes just so you can reach Unwavering Vision. Are you sure that's worth it?

@elantonelle

2 ай бұрын

You dont care about a few scarabs, getting to t16s is much more important if you only care about efficiency

@_Freariose

2 ай бұрын

Most mechanics don't start popping off until late yellows or reds anyways. Hell, they even nerfed the go to white mechanic by making essences scale with map tier too.

@Wilzekify

2 ай бұрын

@@_Frearioseare they really „scaling”? Didn’t they just move shrieking essences drop from minimum t1 to t6 map? So there’s still no difference between t6 and t16? Maybe I missed something.

you are smirking so much if i would be a new player i would think you are trolling

will dd elementalist be able to progress easily?

is it only me ? or maxroll atlastree link is broken ?

If your build can handle harbinger, they are arguably THE BEST way to actually complete your atlas. There are a lot of better ways to push yourself to t16s, but the harbinger orbs make it so easy to get all your passive points by just rerolling the maps. As a blight farmer, please stop telling people blight, i like my 100-150c golden oils :(

I think you understimate how much they Buff Scarabs and how the Game works with Scarabs. Kirac Nodes are a no Brainer, but after that it could be better to Spec into Scarab nodes that make Cartographer Scarabs drop 100% More Likely while Blocking every League Content which also block/remove their Scarab from the drop pool in your Maps. Expedition and Harbringer are too much Point Expensive and also Slow down Speed for Map Completion, Expedition is RNG Getting Tujen or Dannig that are worth running and Harbringer you need to search and it takes Time to Kill because its slow on summoning. Now that Strongboxes got new Modifier for droping Scarabs it is best to Invest into that and enhance the Cartograph Scarab Strategie Spam Especially the Scarab node that makes Scarab Drops less likely to be Common Rusted but instead higher Rarity.

o7

Watchetones #oldheads

unwawering is a trap its a useless keystone no one should pick it up you are just baiting new people you can get all kirac nodes and maps drop higher chance nodes without keystone and also be able to drop scarabs wich is gonna be the big money it make no sense to pick that keystone you dont even get 20 points from it becuz you have picked several scarab nodes on the way wich are dead nodes

We need starters, sir

Rip essences

@minhocho5487

2 ай бұрын

You can still do the strat in t6 since they all spawn. The atlas node nerfs do suck tho

@lowkey_Ioki

2 ай бұрын

@@minhocho5487 Best bet is that stuff was moved to the essence scarabs.

@minhocho5487

2 ай бұрын

@@lowkey_Ioki actually, you might be right.

@iFoss

2 ай бұрын

The price will reflect the changes tho, so I bet farming them is equally or more lucrative cause less people might farm them now

Rog is Pog. That is all.

took that kirac bullshit, got almost no kirac missions

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