Thanks for having me Wudi. Great topics, interesting places were everyone disagreed. Excited for Season 4 and D4 2.0

@danieleatherly7298

2 ай бұрын

Loved your positive energy bro

@andenschmitt987

2 ай бұрын

Loved your energy about masterworking. Couldn’t agree more

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

I’m happy we have a paladin standing against the evils of Gacha in you Macro, because many streamers are too self-absorbed in their niche career/lifestyle to appreciate how much the average player values their own free time lol If you spend all workweek struggling in front of customers, just to come home and ALSO suffer random slot-machine mechanics in what was supposed to be a fun “game” I purchased for $70, that would just feel ultra-bad

@brianaiken3917

Ай бұрын

I admire your S tier levels of copium

"I love Rogue" was like the "i like turtles" -Kid XD

I could see Wudi getting a tattoo that simply says "I love Rogue"

Always enjoy when the big brains get together for some banter and debates. Good stuff!

About the companion druid, I think they should share a life link with wolves and take damage for them to give them more survability while exposing the druid as counterpart.

I watched a nearly 4h long video and the only thing i know for sure is that ppl are gonna cry at everything again ... gotta love ppl on the internet

2:59:36 good example for the post season process, Raxx mentioned, should be Altar in D3. Was amazing in Season 28, came back in S30 in a properly nerfed way.

What I wanna know is has someone tested to see what level pit gives you the max legendaries?

You guys are hilarious talking about build complexity in regard to the Necro build being too strong or too easy. I literally play bar right now. I press three shouts and just do not think at all literally I zero brain myself and I blow up everything in the game in one click how is that different?

I like elemental surge for alts, it should just be tuned down to where it's very powerful early on, but not useful at endgame.

@Grapejellyification

2 ай бұрын

Better for the game to just have minus level requirement affixed gear

to make up for the 4 barb weapons they could just add some new equipment slots to other classes. For example adding earring slots for everyone else.

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

That would be really cool, yeah Adding a “hidden sheath” for daggers specifically would be really cool & flavorful on Rogues for example

My problem with helltides is picking up the cinders, remember how much better it felt to autopickup on kill the vampire helltide "cinders"?

I don't know how exactly, but how 'bout adding content from finished season into paragon boards? Add one or two to choose from and widen build diversity through those. In general, buff paragon boards to be on par to the comparably bloated itemization. Bring both of em closer together in terms of character power. Maybe not 50-59, but make pargon more interesting and/ or meaningful.

Not only is that Rax's only blue hoodie, but its the only piece of clothing he owns. Hes Winnie the Poohing it on stream every day.

What's the difference between minions killing everything in the room and barbs unleashing dust devils and clearing the room? If they want to level the playing field, they need to tune all class to play all the content with the same difficulty.

I think it would be cool to have an endgame progression tree (not like skill but progression path). Say you unlock NM dungeons, it pops up and says hey, you can work toward killing Uber Vampire or Uber different-season mechanic. You have to grind for the "key" to their lair to kill them, then if you succeed, you unlock that season's mechanic but not the other season's mechanic. Then in order to level up that season's mechanic, you need to farm NM Dungeon modifier currency that makes that season's mobs appear in the dungeon, and makes it super hard. Completing it gives you XP toward the season mechanic (like vampire power).

Thanks God Kripparrian is there. Raxx specially just knows how to play Diablo 3, and he tries to make all the games as Diablo 3. Kripparrian is the only one not looking for views for his channel and just asking for “fun” things… all the rests looking for Gauntlet, or closed PTR just to farm views in their channels. THIS IS A GAME FOR THE PLAYERS, not for the f****ng STREAMERS!

Other than it being super slow the biggest problem is going to be the short supply of veiled crystals. PPL will run lvl 70 pit or wahtever trying to want to master some items, reset and so on and then will have to run helltides again for 5 hours just to farm up crystals bc. they wont drop during the pit... thats just dumb

2:06:41 Cinders should carry over! If I have to chose one thing from the video to get implemented, it would be this.

To the problem Macro points out at 2:47:00 , a game (other than PoE) that does a great job of continually layering on systems but keeping them relevant is Warframe - a couple of times a year they will add a big new mechanic, and it *is* powercreep, but it's not powercreep in the form of WoW where "the new thing is better than anything before, so you can skip all the old stuff now", it's powercreep by being an addition to everything that came before - new ways to augment your gear, your characters, new ways to get access to things that were very hard to get before, new loot that is not super useful in isolation, but amazing when combined with gear from several previous systems. So the game has had massive powercreep, but it's all cumulative, and if you're a new player, you always have something new to work on because the game slowly opens up more and more systems for you to engage with.

For the ssf and duriel rota conversation I think there is a super obvious solution. Have ssf and if you pick it you get higher drop rates on duriel or even just cheaper mats or whatever. Give a small advantage there to make up for the no grouping in duriel runs

I think I’m gonna make a primary attack rogue build this season

Is this a necro cast?

@HatiKeseorangan

2 ай бұрын

hahahaha 3 necro vs 1 rouge hahahahaha

With the necro I tried to place him between the mages and warriors because I got one shot alot from behind

Healthy discussion is healthy

the thing im doing before may 14 is smashing down affix's and loading up on vampire droplet blood

Rax is the 🐐 he is so chill with all the thrill

Where’s my cow level?

@chaseunderwood9067

26 күн бұрын

Hell tide lol

lovely!!

Hell tide chests should give you a guaranteed tempering recipe for the specific gear set

@droid5785

2 ай бұрын

I like that. Good way to round out your manuals by using something underused

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

To be fair, I don’t know if people know that spamming summoned Bosses is a solid way to quickly farm up the best Tempering manuals, to the point where I didn’t feel TOO restricted by endgame Similar to Rare Glyphs dropping

d4 mid? or is it good yet? I have a feeling they are going to have a nice season 4

What I would love to see is battle report for tormented bosses. If it showed you the damage you dealt by what ability what your staggers came from how often etc etc

Would be cool if Diablo 1, 2, and 3's single player campaigns were converted over to Diablo 4... Possibly even Diablo 2, 3 multiplayer experiences... game play selection screen...*

Good chat, already saw it on Raxx's channel 🙂. 100% agree with Macro about masterworking and liked Kripps points about shields, but man he needs to chill about HotA 😄. People need to understand that Barb is a melee class and needs big single target damage! HotA size tempering needs to go though or at least reduced to 1/3 or something 🙈

About the failing to upgrade. I agree. Increase the materials, remove the chance to fail. That mechanics is bad. Kripp and Macro explained it very well. It won't go away for S4. Maybe at a later date. But, it is a bad mechanic.

Season 4 of Diablo 4 hasn't been announced yet. So there's that. Pay attention!!!

When they announced leaderboard, i was exciting to have some specific game mode where i can test my character to see how good it is in compare to other players. I liked this even in Last Epoch. You dont have to play this every time, you just get there when you are interested to give it a try with a new character. But they gave us this... I dont think it was that bad, maybe just the fact that it was fixed difficulty as end game content instead of allow anybody participate, i will rather have same leaderboard as it was in D3 Greater Rift, you play, you dont need to worry about loot, and depend on difficulty you finish and time, you have a place. I really hope that they move leaderboards into a Pit. But one thing i hated about it was the fact that it was called "Gauntlet" i dont understand why? Everybody know Gauntlet as event from POE and it was something entirely different, even when you google what does it mean it give you answer like "Gauntlet is a challenging sequence of events or encounters", in my mind it doesnt fit it. I know its just name but it make me mad every time i heard about it. But maybe its just me :)

Wait, DM was also part of the pod?

@mahatmasloth6543

2 ай бұрын

Last time. Maybe he was busy for this one. Wudi and Raxx only ones that returned

@Queen-dl5ju

2 ай бұрын

would have been better to have DM than kripp

@SuperLotus

Ай бұрын

@@Queen-dl5ju Kripp actually played Season 3 unlike DM. Kripp is the only person in the world to beat D3 on its hardest difficulty. Not saying either of these are the reasons why he's on instead of DM...doesn't really matter tbh

@Queen-dl5ju

Ай бұрын

@@SuperLotus he didn't play PTR, which is what i wanted to hear about, and DM did play and gave tons of feedback videos, and DM is more pleasant to hear from

☝🤓 strictly

Wudi was like Sorc defensive are finnnnneee. I get one tapped in the rogue so I’m used to being good and not getting hit by shit so maybe done get hit lol

I wish we can imbue our gems with vampire powers

👍😎👍

Where is dmdiablo4 lol?

@GRyanBee

2 ай бұрын

Was wondering the same thing lol

@leventunver

2 ай бұрын

@spidermeng1846 It was in the title. That's why I asked this question. Now the title is fixed.

@ogge9296

2 ай бұрын

Wudi included actual diablo players.

I don't know Macro. But now I know that he is a whiny boi

All these changes are good i am glad d4 1.0 is finally coming but if the league mechanic is as bad as the last 3 i will still be playing poe late into its season over d4. If they can make a season as good and engaging as some of poe then i will be all in and come back to it.

Raxx- "i feel like a babysitter, rather than a commander with the minions of the undead" 2:00

it-s not just a hoodie it-s a sign of true commitment

What Raxx is talking about at 42:37 is what I call when a developer thinks of an idea, they play it a couple of times and think "this is good". But they always fail to realize that we, the players, are going to do this hundreds, if not thousands of times. Over hundreds if not thousands of hours. Shit like that gets tedious REAL fast. Loot box opening is one of the biggest criminals of this unskippable animation. It's literally virtual AIDS infecting video games, spreading its disease into our minds in form of mental torture. I say forget water boarding. Let them open loot boxes. If that doesn't break their mind, nothing will.

Raxs masses comment, the game is designed for most people not streamers whos job is to play for 1000 hours. What an entitled take.

I’m fine with gambling for masterworking, but don’t waste my time with the animations and success chance

How TF did I just spend almost 4 hrs so quickly and feel like I just listened to some good friends have a real conversation about basically AARPG but D4 focused. I don’t even think I can sum it up so I’ll just say I’m a fan of this. P.S. for as much as y’all talk about the general or typical player maybe just add someone like that on the next podcast. You could pick different “types” of players that might speak for different demographics that play the game. just a thought. Thanks

Great podcast, I'm glad you guys get together for these. But please don't bring Krip back. His attitude totally killed the 'vibe'

They should bring back pets that you lvl that's utility

always attacking the Minions but never going after barb/rogues/mages who are 2 shotting endgame bosses.. seems like ya should let the necros have some fun.

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

Those are already on the chopping block as well Conjuration and Dust Devil are almost guaranteed to get nerfs

Almost hour hours of mostly babbling about stuff that either isn’t important or crying about Minions. Somehow I am not surprised at all

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

Why should anybody take your opinions seriously

There's no point in setting foot on The Gauntlet wanting to compete unless one has all uber uniques. And which % of players do? 😒

As a Necro main, 100% agree with Wudi about the most brain dead build should never be the strongest, the last thing necro mains want to see is sanctuary with an all necro population. I would say that an exception to that would be if there were a very unique build that's overpowered, but took a lot of creativity and ingenuity to put together and happens to be easy to pilot. On another note, anyone remember in the beta when explosive mist would triggered corpse explosions as fast as you moved over them instead of the delay between when they could be popped? Would love to see them bring back the gatling corpses.. some day perhaps...

@HDGaminTutorials

2 ай бұрын

They have been trash since release who cares if they are op 1 season

@jasonc379

2 ай бұрын

@@HDGaminTutorials A little op is fine, but best build in the game if it takes little to no effort or skill, for me, doesn't sound interesting or fun, and will likely have an adverse effect on the game

@brianaiken3917

2 ай бұрын

the whole game is braindead

@jasonc379

2 ай бұрын

@@brianaiken3917 Maybe if all you do is meta build.. I've experienced engaging elements in the game.. perhaps you're just too smart and talented for us diablo peasants

Wooden Joseph. The 17 damage guy. The unluckiest man on earth. And that based Macro guy. This is going to be good.

for me minion is the best character in diablo 4.... i am sorry ..... minion diablo 4 is the best game i ever play.... :D i will play until i bored...

Honestly, I think these guys want a game where there's literally no UI at all, and it's all just numbers. There's no actions. There's no animations, it's just pointing, click and it dies.

Legion events are basically made irrelevant now cus if helltides. They need to find a way to make legion events worth it again

No timestamps in a 4h video is crap.

@dylan-sk8mt

2 ай бұрын

womp womp

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

@@dylan-sk8mt Nice projection

@dylan-sk8mt

2 ай бұрын

@@corpsefoot758 projection of what? its a 4 hour video, just play it and listen to it. Their point are all over the place because its just them having an open discussion. If you want wanna losten to the whole thing then uhh womp womp

@kipz

2 ай бұрын

@@corpsefoot758 define projection

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

@@kipz His existence is womp lmao

Nightmare Dungeons. logged into season 3 after playing PTR and realized I had glyphs to level up. NDs immediately felt like a chore or a job that I had to do. Tedious and takes way too long. To level 5-6 glyphs, ya have to do 50-60 NDs back to back, over and over. It just gets so repetitive and very annoying. Nothing in a game should ever feel like a chore or a job. What if they removed glyph xp from NDs and just let the glyphs rank up as you use them. Every monster everywhere in all the game gives a small amount of glyph xp as long as the glyph is socketed in place?? Then make NDs give different rewards at the end. Take the chest idea from Vaults and put them in NDs. Maybe one chest is free and has legendary items and a small chance at a unique. Then have a gear key that’s acquired somewhere. The gear key unlocks a second chest at the end after the boss that has legendary items and a larger chance for a unique. A third chest can be opened with a material key. That has random mats for anything in the game, including summon mats. A fourth chest can be opened with a gold key and it has nothing but gold inside -maybe like 1-2 million gold and only just gold?? As it is now, once my glyphs are leveled, I never ever ever want to set foot in a nightmare dungeon ever again cause it reminds me of the chore I had to do to gain full power for my character. Making glyph xp come from other sources solves this and having different rewards in a nightmare dungeon would make me want to do them every once in a while. Something like this would make me choose to do a nightmare dungeon rather than feel like I have to do them as a job for 2-3 weeks.

But did any one you play Hardcore PTR I'm with rax the 1 shot is crap

So you guys are playing last epoch

Lot of shi* talking between members which I found interesting, but great podcast overall! Lots of changes I'd love to see, but there's still a lot they didn't cover or mention. I wish I could be in on these podcasts man....I could talk for hours about things they could/should add. Anyway, thanks for the video fellas

I think kripp had some based views in subjects that the rest of em didnt gather together. Good job though guys. Wish it were 4 plus hours.

Great talk, however I find it a bit strange the two necro players who openly admit to not being programmers also make sweeping claims about the game's functionality. The only intrinsic property of any model is being incorrect or incomplete. The result you observed was certainly a bug, but you can't say anything more about how it occurs at run time. Without source code and a debugger You're essentially commenting on the existence of a hidden variable, with undefined behavior, which is actively being changed by developers. I find it highly unlikely either of you diagnosed the root cause of a bug in a code base probably containing 100,000+ lines of code.

I wish Id have watched this version not Raxx's so he is facing the right way.

Wudji and kripp are spot on feedback. Agree on kripp. Vanilla d4 cant throw season systems when the game is barebones. D4 main issue is that the actual systems in game are just leveling. Helltides and whispers dont have and end game they are the same from lvl1 -lvl100. Same nightmare dngs. This systems need to evolve into end game. Seasons themes need to have lore. Season 2themes could become guild systems. U cant only be part of one and level those powers in guild quest and items. Zoltan mage guild and u get a pet. Ect…

@kevinfinnerty8414

2 ай бұрын

D4 is for casuals who play for an hour a day.

@kiksta3325

2 ай бұрын

@@kevinfinnerty8414 one hour a day is fine. U can push so many vaults per hour brain numbing. The slaying mobs per hour had to get better.

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

@@kevinfinnerty8414 It’s not casual to push for Pit 200 though, they’re trying to change the playerbase a bit

@SuperLotus

Ай бұрын

The devs explicitly said they aren't continuing seasonal content due to power creep and balancing issues. We already have a ton of issues with Barbs being overpowered. If we had seasonal mechanics on top of that there are going to be so many other ways people break the game.

Kripparrian really salty about barbs.

You know what is one of the biggest problems of D4 right now? That streamers and 'content creators' are overanalyzing every single inch of the game and thinking that they know what's best for it. Whenever I hear Raxx's D3-inspired takes on how D4 should change, I wanna throw up...

@kevinfinnerty8414

2 ай бұрын

Amen

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

The only way to take your opinion seriously is if you offer compelling suggestions instead So let’s hear them, then

@z0ttel89

2 ай бұрын

​@@corpsefoot758 I don't owe random people on the internet anything.

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

@@z0ttel89 And they don’t owe you the time of day either. Keep yelling at clouds :)

@kipz

2 ай бұрын

@@corpsefoot758 right.. people love to act like they know it all til they get asked to tell it all

Making necro minions stronger doesn't mean shit... people will play it for lulz and get bored after couple days when they realise that necro is still a slow, boring, incomplete, brainless class and reroll to rogue or sorc

wudi doesnt like pet necro .lol im with him on it pet necro is fun for afk playing but it gets really boring and braindead

boss rotas SUCK hate it! but i also don't want to play ssf.

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

What if they increase loot droprates for SSF players? Instantly fixed

what a gammlee if all u stat is HIGH HP , HIGH HP REGEN, HIGH ESSENCE REGEN, omg this is not gamble, this is high chance of getting stupid STAT only.... lmaooo hahahaha

Macro is such a complainer. Guys like him are never satisfied with anything

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for clarifying you don’t even remember the entire podcast hahaha

MaxRoll people never stop moaning and ruin fun for causal players.

Not even 4 hours? Disappointed.

@LPJGAM3S

2 ай бұрын

was 6 it got condensed

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

Oh damn, which parts did they take out?

@LPJGAM3S

2 ай бұрын

@@corpsefoot758 one of them uploaded it now its deleted i just checked through when i saw 5 hours 50min im like im not sitting down to listen to that first hour was gruesome let alone 3 plus hours

Kripp seemed out of place and didn't want to be there.

@jonesycat1337

2 ай бұрын

saw it live and thought the same thing, though Kripp didnt play much of the PTR, not sure how much DM played but i think it was more than Kripp

@insomniaddictesp

2 ай бұрын

I don’t know where this is coming from. Kripp was the way he always is, he just turned off his streamer gear.

@SuhandiWijaya

2 ай бұрын

@@jonesycat1337 yeah I think DM should be there instead of Kripp.

@fhoenixx5185

2 ай бұрын

I felt he was rude at times and I really like his insight. I think he has had a longer relationship with blizzard and is cynical at times. But his sense of game systems being engaging is on point imo. He has less emotion invested compared to the other 3 if diablo 4 is a success or failure as well.

@LPJGAM3S

2 ай бұрын

@@fhoenixx5185 fken what you think KRIPP was rude are you ok out of all these people kripp and wudi is the best person when it comes to giving insight about diablo let alone action rpg wtf the dude hosted at exile con and all and you call him rude u know what i find rude when rax already 10 min digging at d4 coz doesnt fit his narrative and how macro boy was trolling and going off topic you could see in in wudi face why he wanted to change subject the actual thing went for 6 hours etc honestly wanna talk about d4 for that long if anything rax was negative for months along with dm those two dude were so negative towards diablo and hyped LAST EPOCH like no tomorrow gonna be the new diablo killer and coming from someone who has played last epoch since beta and early access i knew that these guys will play for a week or so then stop ohh look dm stopped and now dont see him hyping last epoch up and now rax turned around coz of the new ptr wudi and rob probably the only dude who kept calm throught the massive storm of diablo 4 and krip was always lurking playing here and there but his main game is hearthstone when you been around kripp and know how he is he says how it is and calls bs and if wasting or fking around he wont take part of it etc

MacroBoi is the literal cancer to the game...complaining about everything. " Oh the animation is too long, oh the vendor is 3m too far" .. yes its called immersion. If you wanna play no animation, no immersion place go plan some 2d trash . Not a single positive thought in 2h

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

Immersion??😂😂😂 Do you have a single idea how completely disconnected that UI is from actual blacksmithing?

@GunsNRoses87AXL

2 ай бұрын

@@corpsefoot758 do you know how having all 4 vendor npcs next to each other and no points of interest in the rest of the city is not immersive and waste of developing time? And ye.. blacksmithing takes time, it aint instant

@corpsefoot758

2 ай бұрын

@@GunsNRoses87AXL You can have points of interest which are purely aesthetic, that way it keeps lore-nuts happy while not wasting any blaster’s time

@kipz

2 ай бұрын

You realize the length of the animation and the placement of the vendor is an arbitrary decision made by just some person? Why are you acting like having a streamlined experience is a bad thing?

@GunsNRoses87AXL

2 ай бұрын

@@kipz you think its arbitrary decision but the initial town layouts were made to feel real. Points of interest were spread - "the shady dealer - aka the gambling of orbs" was always in the area away from the city center. Just an example to show the designers think about those stuff to make it feel real

You guys need to structure these podcasts better because 4 hours is just way too long.

kripp showing how out of touch he is lol.

@Norththeninja

2 ай бұрын

he is one of the most based players but he still kinda has some old school POV on things

@JSalesFilm

2 ай бұрын

I often agree with him but he tends to thrive on Kontrarrian energy which is not a great way to connect and communicate with others. lol

@Pilek01

2 ай бұрын

what did he say? dont have 4h to watch all.

You guys are missing the obvious with the PTR discussion. We shouldn't be testing ANYTHING. Blizzard should spend real money hiring talented people to do this stuff so it works when they are ready to deliver it, and that is not unreasonable for a company that can spend a billion dollars marketing a single game. Players should never have to test the game ever.

@dylan-sk8mt

2 ай бұрын

Complain about no PTR, gets PTR, complains about having PTR, blizz fans cant ever be happy

@lennyghoul

2 ай бұрын

@@dylan-sk8mt It's almost as if people have different opinions and lumping everyone into one group to make a disingenuous point is stupid.🤪

@dylan-sk8mt

2 ай бұрын

Nah, Blizz hater, everything this company does is an L, people like you will never be content. They do a close PTR and then season hits and everyone complains because of season stuff, and the “talented people” dont know anything and this company is an L, its the same thing theyve been doing.

@andyxprophet

2 ай бұрын

There is a LARGE gap between QA and PTR testing. They weren't just putting out a PTR to see if stuff WORKS. (Which is QA's job). They put it out to see fan reaction to the systems. You cannot simulate that even with the most talented QA team in the world. Taste is a tough thing to work on when you only have a small sample size. You're thinking about this all wrong. PTR's are a good thing.

@gollese

2 ай бұрын

PTR has been a thing since dawn of wow even, PTR are used by so many gaming companies and there are literally nothing bad about it.

Groups never should get bonuses. Players should play in groups because they like to play together and exchange or give each other drops if needed. They never should play in groups for the bonus. Group bonus is the dumbest thing in an ARPG.

😂Season 4 or Diablo 5😂