The mixing of cold and hot by another valve is why you need to install a shut off on the inlet and the outlet side of the water heater. For an extra $20, add the second shut off.

I like to get a little drunked up before diving into something like a hot water heater…..it definitely doesn’t help but it doesn’t really hurt either….

this is why i require customers to do valves on the hold and the cold because they cant follow simple directions of do not use the water why we swap the water heater.

@ChuckBarron

10 ай бұрын

so true

Chuck, Have an AO SMith 50 gal with power vent. Can I replace the tank and use the power vent from the old tank

@ChuckBarron

10 ай бұрын

I would not. New tank, new warranty

Why didn’t you use the existing exit ? Why new exit ?

CB-1 you know and I know when you work on Saturdays nothing goes right and there's always some kind of hang up. Peace brother

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

mental free fun day. .lol

I love his enthusiasm 😁

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

We having some fun for sure...Love it.

How long of a run is that?

@ChuckBarron

10 ай бұрын

I believe right through the wall.

I install vents first to get it straight and then everything else is adjustable to the water heater. Texas is 12" of hard pipe from heat source. Good video.

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Payment.....ha

Hello i have a question where are u guys running your establishment from what city or state

@ChuckBarron

10 ай бұрын

South Jersey

Nice job there Chuck looking good man nice to CCB back

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

The days are coming real soon. Full Time CB2 May 15, 2020

Top team !!! Great video as always 👍

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

We doing it on a Saturday for fun. Thanks PB

@pb9926

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBarron that's because you love plumbing !!! 👍👍👍

North dakota we have to have 18inches of copper on top of the water heater before pex

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

same here I think.

Chuck love the video's of you and CB2. I see some of these power vent units out here in San Diego but usually only on 3 story tall buildings. Out here we also have to put 2 earthquake straps on every water heater. I was a little surprised you did the pipe fitting first first and then the vent last. I'm not a plumber but when I work on projects I always try to do the harder stuff first. But it's probably not any more difficult for you in either order of operation, or maybe you like having room to get at those crimps from any direction. Just sayin' thinking out loud if it were ME doing this I would deal with the vent first. But it's a very nice install and I appreciated watching you cut that 3/4 inch or whatever that was off the cold water pipe before BC2 crimped it...perfectionist. A lot of guys woulda just not bothered with that last cut

Yeah C.B. code is 18" of copper before you can use transition to pex on a gas water heater here in the south, great video keep them coming thanks

@Dunkdamonk

4 жыл бұрын

He is pretty close there I thought a little closer on the hot side

@plumbbuild6517

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dunkdamonk well code is shutoff has to be on cold side so cold side is good hot side a little shy but if he would have went up and installed a 90 degree elbow the copper on hot would pass as well

@plumbbuild6517

4 жыл бұрын

@@Dunkdamonk I also would have to install a Expansion tank unless it was on I well

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Steve. We got er done.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

I believe Im good. As they say in the barber shop Next!

0:01 You can tell the son loves his life.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

he loves the camera and my morning energy......LETS GO CB2

Would like to see the outside chimney for the water heater? Learning info.

Chuck, you need a Cinch-N-lift...if you have a Ferguson by you..they will have it. With these water heaters being balls heavy now...makes life much easier getting the water heater into the pan.I have one, and I wonder what took me so long to buy one.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

appreciate that Anthony. My Neck! My Back! lol.

The Barrons saving the day for yet another, satisfied customer.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

We got em some hot water for sure...maybe even saved em from CO poisoning.

I didn't see any combustion air vents in that small room, with the dryer running and both doors closed the dryer would suck air down the water heater flue and exhaust it outside......that would be the down draft

@Dunkdamonk

4 жыл бұрын

The old flue pipe is one now! Haha

@ronfortin8041

4 жыл бұрын

Yea what a waste of a still good water heater.

@throttlebottle5906

4 жыл бұрын

yeah, likely when they shut the door with dryer on it's game over, it could starve the power vented one enough to drop and error. they'll probably be screaming about the freezing cold entering through the old B vent, which hopefully doesn't tie into a larger B vent picking up a boiler or furnace else it will pull all that in backwards too! *** i see the HVAC vent on ceiling is shut also and look at the big dirty buildup ring around it. makes me wonder if there's also a cold air return in there and the hvac system further causing negative pressure.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Ya but it was 18 years old. And the best part is no more CO...Thats no so nice for life in general.

@snickelp

4 жыл бұрын

changing a 18 year old water heater is always a good idea .....change it before it leaks and it was down drafting

18 inches of copper on a water heater.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Darrill

I see C. B. 2 learned how to use those pliers from C.B 1!

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

John Krim did you see that. Also some wrench work. You forgot that part.

with cb2 back the start of ur videos is like a buddy cop movie except this would have to be a buddy plumber movie nice work cb and cb2

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Ha. We gotta get him on a day shift schedule come May 15.....ha

Make up air in that room will need to be significantly increased? Electric outlet needed for power vent?

chuck, only on combustion type water heaters with B-vent/atmospheric vent do you have to have the 18" of copper minimum, an electric heater you can pex 100%, that power vent you could as well since no combustion/heat can melt or ruin the integrity

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Bam! Thanks James. Appreciate that and it makes sense for sure.

@i.bleed.green.2081

4 жыл бұрын

That is not at all true. And the code applies to the water lines and has nothing to do with the venting. UPC requires 18”. Just use a flex line. They are 24”, you can loop it to fit just like a toilet or faucet supply, and it makes future servicing realistic. If you hard pipe it you have to re pipe it in the future.

@Lyricyst28

4 жыл бұрын

I.bleed.green.20 , plumbers don’t use flexible connections, if you use the shark bite flexible connections you’ll have black particulate in your water supply as the rubber internals deteriorate and send it into the system, flex lines are a no go and I take them out daily, you don’t need copper on an electrical unit, the clearances are put in place due to the heat of the venting, no copper required unless it’s combustible and on a gas fire heater etc

@i.bleed.green.2081

4 жыл бұрын

James Harrison lol at plumbers not using flexible connections. Unless you’re bending rigid supply lines of hard piping in your toilet and all other fixtures, they are all connected with flex lines. Plumbers do not use shark bites. End of story. Don’t know why you would even bring that into this conversation. Flex lines used at water heaters are made of stainless steel and are allowable by code. It has nothing to do with venting lmao. The 18” applies to both electric and gas, all varieties of venting as well. Look it up, chapter 5 of the UPC.

When you use a hole saw especially on a ceiling try, "Disston E0215000 RemGrit Hole Saw Accessories Dust Bowl". You will not need to put any cloth down. No dust except in the bowl.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Oh cool. I will check it out charles. ty

Hey chuck , how come you don’t put in a expansion tank

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

We are good here . No need.

@bullmoosepiper7732

4 жыл бұрын

If there's no check valve, no expansion tank needed.

No plastic pipe within 18” of a heater CB.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Not sure on that one....Power vent. I just got the word. Check it out.

@brewmule6799

4 жыл бұрын

He is correct Chuck. In my area we have to install expansion tanks too.

@joea5183

3 жыл бұрын

1st 18"

No plumb bob on the truck

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

of course but hole was located from above on a free spot from ceiling joist.

@joshcowart2446

4 жыл бұрын

Chuck Barron sorry I was being a smart ass. I assumed as much. Also that’s sort of an inside joke. I work with a bunch of guys 25 and under and none of them know what a plumb bob is let alone how to use one. I try to use old techniques like that and show the guys that work with me so they know these things. If they don’t have a laser and need to line up a hole they’re screwed.

I have seen a few of your videos and I haven't seen you install the condensate drain on any of them??

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

checking on that now.

Can you change an atmospheric water heater to work in a direct vent set up?

@ChuckBarron

2 жыл бұрын

you can. there is a third party system you can purchase. a would not. Just change it out.

Hi Chuck, I'm Darell. I do many handyman work here in San diego and plumbing and electrical is kinda what I'm good at. I have probably replaced more than 30 water heaters before but I never installed or seen a power vent. Can you create an educational videos all about water heaters. Just the other day I found out that Rheem water heater is not the best brand, and I been telling my customers that Rheem is the best water heater out there. 😪. By the way I love you milwaukee pipe cutter and copper crimper, just started so I cant afford it yet.

My home changed this kind of water heater ( POWER VENT WATER HEATER) yesterday, I found it has higher noise than a previous CV water heater (ATMOSPHERIC WATER HEATER ). Should it be? How to reduce the noise?

@ChuckBarron

3 жыл бұрын

Tankless all day long.

The spark Sounds like a cricket.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Like eagle Fans.....lol

Is there any regulation on the airflow inside utility closet used for combustion of the gas hot water heater?

@jjjjjjjjj99

3 жыл бұрын

The manual should have a chart on room sizing and how to get fresh air in to smaller rooms. The amount of heating capacity relates to how much air is needed and how big of a hole you need for fresh air from other rooms or from the outside wall.

I did not see any primer or glue on upper joint on 45 ?

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Rut row.

looks like zurn has two different style of that crimp rings and tools type. the stainless rings with wider crimp area/tool and ones with a skinnier crimp area/tool, which also has ears that stop on the pipes cut end. **(insert style sleeve) I knew there was a word for it somewhere in my dome lol, need to give up, brain unclear tonight..... as to if any are interchangeable between brands, who knows, quite possibly.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Piss me off epecially since my press jaws for pex were in other truck 30 minutes away. Dam.

@brewmule6799

4 жыл бұрын

Forgot Zurn for PEX. Viega is the way to go. It’s the best crimping system for PEX.

@i.bleed.green.2081

4 жыл бұрын

Brewmule I disagree, Uponor.is the way to go. Larger diameter and the expand/contract connections have stood the test of time better in my experience

PERFECT EXAMPLE, WHY.. I INSIST INSTALLING TWO SHUT OFFS.. 1 MIXER VALVE IN THE HOUSE.. AND SOMEONE USES THAT VALVE.. (most likely, with my luck, while my backs turned) and YOU have a mess!

Don't know about where you are, but Southeastern Plumbing Code does not allow for Pex to be used within 18 inches of the WH. Pex especially "B" pex verses "A" pex, Pex cannot tolerate heat over long periods of time. Heat rating is stamped on the pipe. Pex also has a presure rating. Most people don't know there 3 different types of Pex.

So why are you deciding to use pex on the left Side and copper on the right side..?

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

I made the decision to cut the a new valve in.

@realdeal8095

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBarron Ok.. I didn't see that part.. I just saw copper and compression fittings. Do you work on residential boilers at all..? Weil-Mclane?

when I was his age, Id just bear hug the tank and carry it around (Under 50 gallon) lol. I still do, but just to get the bottom high enough to set in the pans. old age :)

@Dunkdamonk

4 жыл бұрын

I used to do that too. I still do, but used to as well. For the bigguns I keep a long fat stretchy piece of vinyl kinda like a turnakit when they in a corner or tight closet. No more bruises on the arms

@joshm5816

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah getting older is rough, I use to pick these up as well. Now the heaters are wider making them more difficult to bear hug. I use ratchet straps to make it easier to lift.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Yes Sir.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

I have shrunk due to lifting water heaters. ha

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Ya. them days over for me too.

👍

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Hvac.

A Navien would of looked nice

@Dunkdamonk

4 жыл бұрын

Sure maybe woulda looked nice but you don't know how far away the furthest fixture was. Tankless are great for most applications, but not all. Plus they require more maintenance. Some people would rather set it and forget it

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Love me a Navien.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Very True but less efficient.

Why did you not just go up through the old vent hole?

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

I did not like location of vent through roof. I did not want to disturb it...create a leak. Best case would of been to do it that way but this did not work out this way this time. Thanks Mav.

how many watts does the power vent draw?

Hey Chuck , love the videos , you don’t have to install vacuum relief valves on water heaters there ? I’m a plumber in MA and it’s code here.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Ya man. we good here. Thanks Dave

@beejayyoo7

4 жыл бұрын

Vaccum relief Valve is only necessary for bottom water intake

@chickenlittle2654

2 жыл бұрын

@@beejayyoo7 Oh? I didn't know that.

18” of copper from the water heater. No expansion tank? It’s code here

@Timah0212

4 жыл бұрын

Expansion tanks are needed on a closed system.

@Dunkdamonk

4 жыл бұрын

@@Timah0212 thermal expansion tanks are needed on all water heaters. It's not a local code. Its international plumbing code

@scottjohnson8601

4 жыл бұрын

Which why im wondering why a master plumber would not put one in. Not discrediting barron or anything. I love watching the videos, hes a good man but he should know thats part of code.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

we good here.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

True that Tim.

Your website isn’t working callbarron.com . But either way nice job. Do you offer extended warranty on the Brad ford white. Here we have A O Smith and they offer 2-4 years extra Warranty on HWH.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I just checked site and its working on my end. Try again and yes we do offer 10 year warranty also as an option.

I have a question what was wrong with this water heater??

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

leaker

@velascojidon390

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBarron oh ok.thanks

did it ever occur that vent was plugged??

you cover the water heater when you made the hole on ceiling but did not cover your lungs that is very apprentice

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

True....Not good.

@dannyboy9254

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBarron I learn a lot from you chuck be a good teacher. lol

plastic pans are garbage. When they get old the become brittle and shatter. Also here in Fl. pan drain lines are to be cpvc.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. Thats all the supply house had on this day.

I hate PEX plumbing. It looks cheap and if one band clamp snaps you have a flooded house. Bullshit.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Im with ya.

Not a fan of the no pen all the way to the water heater. Especially when the manufacturers of the pet rate the pet for such things. Same thing here in maine. No pex with in 18”

@joshcowart2446

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree. uponor is 25/50. Uponor even has residential fire suppression systems that use their pex. I don’t know if it’s code for that. Though that’s way overkill for a water heater. It would also be super handy for t&p lines. When I worked in an area without an inspector we’d run a pex line straight down into the pan for the t&p.

@throttlebottle5906

4 жыл бұрын

@@joshcowart2446 ideally, the end of a t&p pipe should be hard to cap off. like iron pipe cut off, a coupling on copper (push on wont fit), or the polypropylene tube stores sell, which the push-on junk doesn't grab or seal on due to the thin wall thickness ;) if not you'll find them capped all too often!

@joshcowart2446

4 жыл бұрын

throttle bottle that makes sense but I don’t always worry about plumbing to prevent stupidity. It’s impossible. Even with an iron pipe cutoff they could use a dresser coupling or some sort of fernco type thing. They could block it enough so that pressure would build

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Not a fan of pex at all but whats a plumber to do.

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

I have never used uponor. Its on my hit list

If i was you I'd just leave in in bed, its like he dont want to be there

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

He still dreaming...all gonna be good Kieth. Dream land to plumb land May 15, 2020!

Is it possible to convert the atmospheric venting to use a power vent blower setup? If the water heater is still in good shape?

@ChuckBarron

4 жыл бұрын

Yes and pretty costly. better off swapping it out.

@splash5974

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBarron Thanks for the reply! Alrighty, just feel bad swapping out a gas water heater that works perfect...Its atmospheric venting and i want to eliminate the chimney so i can open up my kitchen. In doing so i need to exhaust the heater out the wall... Think i could recoupe a few bucks and sell the used water heater?