‘Gives players a sense of pride and accomplishment’

@CombatPilot1

Жыл бұрын

Well it's true, I recently unlocked the FIAT 6614 and it absoluteley does the job, I love it and feel accomplished. That's not the problem. The problem is I have to do that another 30-40 times before I get my juicy Ariete!

@kazamidaiterrum

Жыл бұрын

I have that Sense learning to play 12.0 but im still diyin lol

@IamgRiefeR7

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t that what EA said during the Battlefront 2 fiasco?

@pawedabek1445

Жыл бұрын

A sense of pride and accomplishment after ruining thier Health by making them waste 1000h for thier first jet

@heyitzdaus

Жыл бұрын

It's true tho, when I got the F-5E(my first top tier jet), I was very happy about it and even proud too because I didnt own any top tier premium vehicles or even premium times. All i did was just spam F-104A and A-4E. To get SL, I'll just spam the premium France P-39Q i get from the battlepass for free. I was level 70 around i got it.

I totally agree with this in principle, but when they allow anyone to buy a 70 dollar pack and immediately play in top tier matches it does not sit right 💀

@GeneralLee2000

Жыл бұрын

@@itz_lexiii_ that's... exactly my point? Player progression is a good thing IMO, but Gaijin allows you to just skip straight to the top with no experience whatsoever

@tigara1290

Жыл бұрын

@@itz_lexiii_ Yes so your team is half full of players who have no idea how to play because they bought their way to the top, aka exactly what Gaijin used to say they dont want people to do

@Nihil1265

Жыл бұрын

and also not everyone want to grind for 600 hour straight to get a decent jet for a single country

@Nihil1265

Жыл бұрын

​@@itz_lexiii_ this is not what i meant, you need to grind 600 hour for a single jet if you dont buy anything, the economy is broken, the progress so painfully hard that people usualy end up buying a premium jet or quit the game, and even the people who end up buying premium jet get gaijined hard because you still need to grind like you got no life to unlock jet, i literally bought a mig 21 spsk because i was tired of grinding just to get one of my favorite plane, and after 100 hour of grind in realistic battle i still havent unlocked my first jet, and this economic model is awful to get new player too, all war thunder ads are advertising fancy f16, mig 29 or t72, so your like "wow ! i can play with my favorite plane against other people ! i want to play this game !" then you download it, play for a few hour, realize that you will never get to play with any of those plane, and uninstall the game, the only player left on war thunder are people who already got top tier and never stopped playing from the time when you could actually unlock tech tree without grinding too much, or people who just started playing the game and dont realize yet how awful the grind is, not talking about the repair cost and all the other shit too

@lt.tactical7917

Жыл бұрын

​@@itz_lexiii_ vaijin litteraly just added tier 8 just to justify adding tier 7 premiums because hurr Durr top tier is actually tier 8 not 7 so technically the 1 br lower than top tier jet isn't top tier ,🤡

Gaijin ain’t a clown, they’ve become the whole damn circus

@Drnken229

Жыл бұрын

Gaijin ain't just a circus, they are Philip Astley, the inventor of the modern circus.

@MoerserKarl

Жыл бұрын

They the whole ass circus Industry bruh☠️

"Why not just give everybody a free Abrams tank?"

@sgt_kissekatt6686

Жыл бұрын

Typical "reasonable" response from those that dont have a proper argument. Cus not making a painful grind even worse = giving free toptier vehicles for nothing.

@shepardpolska

Жыл бұрын

@@sgt_kissekatt6686 We have come around in a circle. Now WOT is easier to grind and more f2p friendly (even if more p2w) then WT is.

@jackgamer6307

Жыл бұрын

"Why should we give out free abrams tanks when pepole will buy them for 60-70 dollars instead?"

@bucket1442

Жыл бұрын

*gives entire 11.0 line up instead*

@reinbeers5322

Жыл бұрын

We have a free Abrams, it's called M1A1 AIM.

“We do not want our player’s to buy our way to the top” - Wow okay

@j100j

Жыл бұрын

Had 9 Su-25Ks on my team today. You can guess if we won.

@crazeelazee7524

Жыл бұрын

@@j100j I get that it's a rhetorical question but the enemy team having 10 A-10s and/or A-6s is not something uncommon :P

Mex$ IL-2 Great Battles somehow has it figured out. You buy a pack (that costs as much as one WT toptier pack) with 10 detailed vehicles, two campaigns and maps and you can play them as long as you would like, no grind, no pain.

@potatoquality8871

Жыл бұрын

wait really? i should get into il2, actually seems fun. thanks

@michjed7

Жыл бұрын

Well IL-2 isn't really comparable, good game though

@smigoltime

Жыл бұрын

@@potatoquality8871 its simply not a free to play game. And because of that you end up saving time, money and sanity

@brainyskeletonofdoom7824

Жыл бұрын

Nevermind the fact that IL2 does a lot of discounts during the year, and that every plane has good Fidelity, the damage model is way better than Wt and the learning curve is a lot scalable

@Ramzi1944

Жыл бұрын

@@smigoltime Based

"Giving everyone free parts and FPE would be the same as giving everyone a free Abrams"

@trainsandstuff1021

Жыл бұрын

"Buying a lunch for a friend is the same as giving 100 000€ for them"

They pretending like the already painful grind was basically just a catapult to top tier and so it had to be nerfed. The community has been begging for _years_ that the grind is painful, and on the rare instance that gaijin _has_ eased it, they've received nothing but positive feedback

@Ramzi1944

Жыл бұрын

Wait what? They eased the grind?

@j100j

Жыл бұрын

​@@Ramzi1944 Perhaps once. But I am not sure if I should believe such legends.

@Strategic_Reformer

Жыл бұрын

@@Ramzi1944 yeah at some point a 2+ years ago they reduced the grind for a whole raft of rank 5+ vehicles by 20-50%. But that was before they introduced rank 7's I think

“ definitely worth the grind”- gaijin entertainment

i love how the game youtube recognizes is "War Thunder: Leopard 2A4 Bundle"

@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS

Жыл бұрын

Lmao I just noticed 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

@Ramzi1944

Жыл бұрын

💀

Somehow whenever I unlocked higher tier vehicles, I don't feel happy nor having fun. All I had is a sense of dread of repair cost and yet another soulless grind haunting me That's how fucked up WT's economy and the grind is

@actually5004

Жыл бұрын

If you find yourself choosing to do things that make you unhappy, why do you think that's the game's fault? Do you suffer from compulsions?

My friends took interest in WT a year ago, they seemed to enjoy it, then they hit tier three by the end of the day, they realized how long it was going to take them to get to the next vehicle. One promptly stopped playing, the other two were willing to pay for a premium vehicle pack, but decided against it when I explained that the golden lions gotten from them would unlock like 1 vehicle if were a lower tier one, and maybe some unlocks if they were lucky. GHPC launched on steam, they have been playing it on and off ever since, the only reason they don't do it more often is because it does not have multiplayer yet. I think there is something to be said about letting some one do what they want in a game without a ridiculous grind wall or hiding it behind 70 dollar vehicle packs.

@actually5004

Жыл бұрын

Your friends are zoomers with no attention span and no will to become better at a skill through practice. They're "gamers" who think they should be nailing ace games in rank 4 RB because they have prestige in CoD so they must be good gamers. How many of them even play a musical instrument? "Oh no, the grind takes years possibly decades and everybody is already better than me and it's gatekept behind expensive hardware oh no, better quit guitar right now and send angry letters to Fender and Gibson!" World of Warplanes is more your tempo.

@Arkaelis

Жыл бұрын

@@actually5004 "Oh no, the grind takes years possibly decades" bro that's literally WarThunder without Premium 💀

@actually5004

Жыл бұрын

@@Arkaelis That's just for guitar, try learning multiple instruments... I guess there are multiple nations. But what sense does it make for a bunch of children who just took their first guitar lesson to walk into a guitar center and demand every guitar be $100 cheaper. If enough of them storm the store not even the real guitarists will be able to buy anything and then nobody will because the company will leave.

@PotatoCrusader

Жыл бұрын

@@actually5004 so we should miss out on part of the game or pay a ridiculous amount just because we have lives and can’t invents months just to get to a jet or semi modern tank?

@actually5004

Жыл бұрын

@@PotatoCrusader No, go play DCS and you won't have that problem at all, but why whine about this game if that's how you really feel?

I recently realised that I shouldn't say "A 60€ premium" but instead "A half minimum wage in Russia"

aged like a fine wine

Isn't it strange how both those guys from the Free Abram's steam disappeared? Shaun "went on vacation" and the other guy who's name I cant remember just cut off and were never seen on WT channel again. Snail KGB is quick and tight, both probably turned into a fibrous powder and fed to the server hamsters.

@deauthorsadeptus6920

Жыл бұрын

Guys from devstream can also disapear. Snail feed upon mens and womans alike.

Circus industry is a dying art but Gaijin has single-handedly brought it back to life.

"Tell me lies tell me sweet little lies"

"I have good progression! I hAve good ProGression! PlaYeRbaSe, I hAvE gOoD pRoGrEsSion!"

Well gaijin is right you know, you cant give top tier to players, but nobody said anything about selling top tier

" Queridos jugadores "

AI generated PR team

holy shit this is pure gold, you've got me absolutely howling. i cant fucking stop laughing at this

it started with "we will never add fire and forget missiles" Anything they deny doing in the future, is an affirmation.

"player progression is important" sure but theres progression and theres souless grind to get anything

Hmm yes, you definitely need player progression in games to keep a community alive, (looks at insurgency sandstorm and ghpc)

@TooFewSecrets

Жыл бұрын

CSGO. PUBG. DOTA. Gaijin just likes money. Anything they say that seems like a lie makes sense when you think of it in terms of maximizing money rather than anything related to the game.

@ryushintai719

Жыл бұрын

arma 3

I’ve been playing for a couple years. I spent 4 months on the US ground tree and only that. I got up to rank 4 when it came to research, but I was still stuck with one or two vehicles at rank 3 because I couldn’t afford anything. Same issue when I tried Germany, Russia and every other nation. You can kinda grind out tier one and two somewhat quickly, but after that the rp becomes a slog, and getting SL to buy vehicles is even worse, because the money you get from a battle is almost negated by repair costs, especially for newer players who aren’t getting 8+ kills a game

"Gayjin will never get a penny from me." Player since 2015.

Gaigin hypocresy - Rulo6000, 2023, oil on canvas

Game: War Thunder: Leopard 2A4 Bundle 2022

@jammygamer8961

Жыл бұрын

lol perfect

"Player progression is essential" *makes it so you can't progress through the game*

Rulo i love you so much for this

Clown moment by gaijin

Lmao, the most fun I had in war thunder was when I stopped playing and got away from that horrid grind and bad balance.

The legend speaks

You know when you have like 9 nations with 2/3 tech trees each, there is a plenty of content to grind. With current tempo of my grind, after 10 years, to research everything In the game, I would need another 25 years. Doesn't sound optimistic

My boy is alive

I love the f4s players not only are most dumb and crash but while I’m trying to unlock sparrows in my f4j they get them stock and can just nail me so epic gaijin should add a rank 8 premium tomcat next

You can give a player evrythinf at the start, you only have......wait for it.....learning the tutorial ;D

i love wasting my ever shoirtening life grinding for top tier tanks

I dont mind high tier premiums as long as they set it up so that for example you can purchase a rank 4 premium when you have unlocked rank 4 not when you have not played your first match.

Banger

Still waiting for my free Abrams

war thunder is a game i love, but fucking hell it makes me want to commit many, many crimes...

I have many of these vehicles and am still just scraping the edge of top tier

I remember when they said that lmao

Its so stupid because there are MANY nations in the game but it takes you thousands of hours to research only one nation even with premium. I've also bough ka-50 and cant research helis without pain. I mean even being stronk I get like 2-3k rp per game if nobody takes down my heli. Premium tanks is bullshit because you have just one tank in setup which is premium and you should stay alive for the whole game to really get all benefits from a premium tank. That's definitely very fair when you pay for shit in the game!

@fischlimonade

Жыл бұрын

This comment just convinced me to quit the game. There's no way I'll put my time into that shit when i get the same amount of RP at high tier that i currently get for a good game at 4.0

@N0Reaver

Жыл бұрын

Play PvE for helicopter research, that's the only way.

@yudhat1700

Жыл бұрын

Well try japan heli goodluck with that thing No mg No atgm No flare No fancy smanchy Good old huey with 2 pods if mighty mouse. Try that on pve and seee even dead ass bot had no problem shooting it down

@N0Reaver

Жыл бұрын

@@yudhat1700 I tried believe me. Even worse, with sweden, 2km ATGMs and slow as f***. I weng even with only rocket pods on Israel AH. I'm not saying it's easy, PvE is bugged as hell also but you have better chances to grind there. You could do only points capture and get plenty of points (remember to go and land on a helipad base after capturing) It doesn't matter how many kills you get.

The only reason I got the A-6 is because I like the A-6. Not to get a free way to grind through literally 2 planes. (Both the F-16) and I barely even play the F-16. I just play the F-14 because 1: it’s really good (especially with the F-14B coming in the next update) and 2: The Final Countdown is a cinematic masterpiece and the F-14 is my fav plane because of it.

So True

We are not gonna talk about event vehicles and the market place

Exactly.

Now I gotta say this, and I know saying anything other than shitting on gaijin is kinda bad right now, but I did buy the leopard pack when I first started playing a year ago. Now I didn’t play it because I knew I’d get my butt handed to me by experienced players. But just a few weeks ago I finally got my 9.0 lineup researched and got to play it. So I did earn my way to 9.0, but I knew I wanted the Leo 1L/44 because the leopard 1 is my favorite tank

the fact that i got 3k hours playtime but stuck at Mig-19S kinda absurb. i barely can save 3mil SL for next vehicle.

@deauthorsadeptus6920

Жыл бұрын

Simply dont buy aces or experts. It saves shitload of SL.

@4IZUKI

Жыл бұрын

@@deauthorsadeptus6920 it certainly save lot of SL, but you blackout easily with afterburner on .... even doing BnZ will blackout yourself when pull up. (full crew skill)

@deauthorsadeptus6920

Жыл бұрын

@@4IZUKI It didnt matter all that much in the air tbh. And with some tricks you can compensate lack of skills (not my case, because my jet crews have maxed out pilot and expert crew dont matter that much).

if you put antidisestablishmentarianism along with any random numbers in your steam url when in profile settings there is an easter egg

@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS

Жыл бұрын

Very good Easter egg may I add

@deauthorsadeptus6920

Жыл бұрын

Its good to see one of noble lords of our divine Yorkshire Overlord.

as someone whose trying to grindba new tree. its hurting

Cant believe WoT, the game with actual pay to win consumables, camo and shells, is WAYYYYYY more F2P friendly than War Thunder

right now we dont have progression

They release that apology thing lol

@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS

Жыл бұрын

With their history of faking and ignoring the Comunity, everyone is waiting for an actual change before considering their apology true😊

@kapioskapiopoylos7338

Жыл бұрын

@@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS As a 10 year player i second that, they have done the same on every community uproar. First jackass responses mocking the community-->apology more fake than the average influencer apologies-->the most nothing tiny patch giving just the tiniest way to what the community is asking with a promise that they will fix it later-->later passes and they have made the game worse than what they had originaly intended with what caused uproar to the community, just slowly this time. Rinse and repeat.

Who's here after reading the apology post?

Took you long enough Rulo

What a way to discover rulo is from my country, or you using vpn?

I mean, that 50% sale

You cant give everything to player WITHOUT profitting us

Congrats to the entire WT players community for letting Gaijin get away with it for so long! Self-inflicted pain wieners !

@actually5004

Жыл бұрын

Grinding with friends is fun if you don't have the attention span of a zoomer.

@brainyskeletonofdoom7824

Жыл бұрын

​@@actually5004 i love repeating the same task for hours with little to no gain compared to the effort, hell, almost as fun as my regular job

@actually5004

Жыл бұрын

@@brainyskeletonofdoom7824 You will never be a decent guitarist, don't even try just give up now why even bother guitar is stupid anyway.

@TooFewSecrets

Жыл бұрын

@@actually5004 I can go to work and unlock a top tier tank in literally 100x less time than grinding. Not that I would because Gaijin deserves bankruptcy. Why play a game to grind? I play games to relax. Strange mindset you have.

@actually5004

Жыл бұрын

@@TooFewSecrets If you play games to relax, World of Warplanes is the other way. I play games to play games, and lengthy grinds mean I don't run out of anything to do, forever. You're the kind of person who thinks fishing is about catching fish and not the struggle between man and beast, I bet.

MAKE WT GREAT AGAIN!

MexS 🤣

Lol

They are fucking panicking

Lmfao

This is one of the reasons why I stopped playing

Someone please mod this song for war thunder main menu

Yep. This is where it all went downhill.

Ruloo Mexican?🧐

Actual clown activity

There's no progression if the progression bar doesn't move don't you think?

Everyone is here 💀

real clown gaming company

Wait are you Mexican?

@Rulo6000

Жыл бұрын

always have been

@titarods0270

Жыл бұрын

@@Rulo6000 Holy shit I didn't knew Rulo es mexicano CHINGADAMADRE SIIIII

Another Rulo banger 💪😼F Gaijin and their dumb shit 🐌🧂🤡

frl clowns

This is old news, doesnt mean that we should ignore it ofc, but Gaijin has released an apology. Now will we see any actual change? Idk, but they'll be releasing a road map on June 14th for what i would expect to be some pretty huge beneficial changes to the economy

@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS

Жыл бұрын

A ROAD Map? Nah bro I wanna see the changes in 14 June, I'm not waiting 3 weeks just to see their plans

@alex190alex

Жыл бұрын

@@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS I get the feeling that you don't completely grasp the pit Gaijin dug themselves into. Gaijin is basically going to have to recreate the entire game's economy and do a 180⁰ flip from the direction they were going while still making it so that they can make money themselves, and on top of that they even said it themselves that they don't think they fully understand what the best course of action would be, so yeah it's going to take a hot minute. Economy is extremely complicated, and I'd imagine that they're also going to take their time so that they can get it as right as they possibly can as to not have another giant wave of backlash against them. Just chill out dude

@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS

Жыл бұрын

@@alex190alex man, just buff the fukin modifiers and lower the modification cost at higher tiers and repair costs, it's not Dat complicated

@alex190alex

Жыл бұрын

@@DatBoi_TheGudBIAS I rest my case

war thunder is a game of skill xddxdxdxdddddddxddx

At least that means that the ones that made ourselves to the top will get free kills from lvl10 premtards

this company is a little goofy. just a tiny bit silly even

WHY NOT MAKE IT EASYER TO RESEARCH AND LOWER THE COST OF THE FUCKING REPAIR? I GAIN LIKE 19K LIONS AND 15K GOES FOR REPAIR

Average Russian company.

I can live with the economy, mostly cause I main 5.3-6.7 germany with no shame. People seem to forget that this is a free 2 play game. The payment model they came up with is essentially relying upon whales and other people to fund everything. So it shouldn't really be a surprise when the economy is a literal korean MMO grindfest that forces people to the cash shop if they value their time and effort moreso then money.

@Sipsy301

Жыл бұрын

I feel bad for you, the fate of 6.7 Germany when constantly facing cold war tanks with lolpen potential making everything German (which is still mostly ww2 at that point and very armour heavy) borderline useless is not enjoyable - for me anyway

@Zombie1Boy

Жыл бұрын

@@Sipsy301 I do alright in my Tiger 2 105 -- still maintaining a 65% win rate and 2 to 1 KDR. Just need to take it slow and let the enemy make the mistakes by being overly aggressive and getting out of position.

@Sipsy301

Жыл бұрын

@@Zombie1Boy I tend to be in a normal Tiger 2(H) and I quite literally cannot make it into a position to sit and wait because everything is faster than me, whilst in the occasions I do get into position it's then still a 50/50 because my positioning (often prioritising armour) is irrelevant to cold war munitions. I quite literally no longer play GRB at all because of it.

@Zombie1Boy

Жыл бұрын

@@Sipsy301 You won't make the first wave of enemies, no. It is the second and third waves that will be your bread and butter. An easy trick I like to do is set up in a decent position and cut my engines -- nobody knows I'm there until I shoot and I can hear exactly where the enemy is coming from due to the excellent sound design. Then you can either wait for someone to walk into your line of sight or if you spot someone in 3rd person you can then start up and ambush him from around the corner. Ideally you want to engage your enemies from the flank so you don't have to worry about aiming too much at someone head-on. Best spots to take up are those unassuming positions that give you long angled looks across the field of battle so you can pick off enemies rushing to where they think the fight is. Since your slow you'll also need some amount of patience to wait for your enemy to make a mistake. If they don't know your there then the chances they'll blunder into your line of sight for an easy kill increases exponentially.

@kurczakpl1866

Жыл бұрын

@@Sipsy301 G'day KT H/105 main here. The best and most fun deck you can get. Uptier?, 105 and ez 1 shots, 6.7 or down, take H for faster reaload. Armour is excellent as long as your brain can think about more than just "press W", also no point in relying on armour cuz you always shoot first, if not you suck. ITA Pershing + ShermanoJackson is also top quality if you want ez games. Edit: Very aggressive playstyle on the 1st line. 3-5+ KD on avg, depends on game.

🤡

fakken clown company ffs

The Truth is..........the game was rigged from the start.

War thunder is dead

@Rulo6000 Warthunder just nuked over 70,000 negative reviews on steam.

Rulo6000 talk in taco taco?