Player Piano Revival Episode 15: Reconstructing the Striker Pneumatics

Ғылым және технология

#stacked #reversible #tuppercrust
This 105-year-old player piano is in dire need of an overhaul if it's ever going to be anything more than just a shelving unit.
I often feel like I'm operating inside a vacuum in my little piano shop. It's time to change that.
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Music: QRS 8269 Tallahassee, "88 Note" 924 That Devilish Glide, QRS 7482 Elmer's Tune, QRS 5190 They Cut Down The Old Pine Tree, QRS 7716 Strip Polka, "88 Note" 300629 Love Me While the Lovin' is Good, "88 Note" 300505 Junk Man Rag, played on a 1917 Autopiano upright player piano.

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  • @nateoutsidethevacuum
    @nateoutsidethevacuum Жыл бұрын

    The cloth used in this video is the "thin synthetic pneumatic cloth" from DC Ramey. dcramey.com/Supplies2.html

  • @jorgeandrade20
    @jorgeandrade20 Жыл бұрын

    Yes, a bench testing episode is very much needed!!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Noted!

  • @masklavier
    @masklavier Жыл бұрын

    I would love to see a bench testing episode! I feel your pain with the “Devil’s Phlegm,” I found some in my piano on the newer looking valves. Took me an entire day to just get the residue off and I had to trash the main block of the air motor when I saw that had it as well. It’s amazing to see the similarity between what we are doing, everything down to the clothespin on the glue brush is almost the same! I love watching these videos and my dad is now watching them as well, they brighten my day and remind me that some day I’ll have a perfectly functional player piano like you! Thanks as always.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for following along all this time. Enjoy your project! We're all in this together.

  • @yetanotherdan
    @yetanotherdan Жыл бұрын

    I have no idea how you don't have thousands of views. Thank you for sharing your time with these pianos and explaining everything. Here's hoping I get to tell everyone I was a fan of yours before you became a sellout!

  • @dcallan812

    @dcallan812

    Жыл бұрын

    It is funny that just a few people get to watch thus channel. All we can do is comment and like, in the hope that youtube will highlight him to other viewers.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for following along and for your support!

  • @eDoc2020

    @eDoc2020

    Жыл бұрын

    521 subs on the channel, 650 views on this channel as of February 21, 2023. I bet we'll reach 1k by May, then it's probably going to explode. I'm wagering nothing. If I'm right I'll get back two nothings. If that doesn't get my desk clean, I don't know what will.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    @eDoc2020 I appreciate your confidence! Anything is possible and entropy is inevitable!

  • @RagtimeFreak86
    @RagtimeFreak86 Жыл бұрын

    This is one of the greatest channels on KZread... Thank You.. Keep up the good work! :D

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    That's very kind of you! Thanks for your support and encouragement.

  • @daveallan3152
    @daveallan3152 Жыл бұрын

    Yes please! More! More! These are great! Thanks

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    3 more episodes left!

  • @jaredvv86
    @jaredvv86 Жыл бұрын

    That vintage Tupperware aesthetic is gorgeous. Possible future sponsorship deal needs to be considered 😂

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Not a bad idea!

  • @Ififitzisitz
    @Ififitzisitz Жыл бұрын

    You could make this series into a television show! I’m lovin’ it!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Calvin! But I'm afraid I'm already in way over my head!

  • @eDoc2020

    @eDoc2020

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nateoutsidethevacuum I believe in you. You can rise above the challenge. An 8 foot ladder is all you need.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    @@eDoc2020 step by step. Thanks again for your encouragement.

  • @MultiPetercool
    @MultiPetercool7 ай бұрын

    I rebuilt my first player in 1979. Have rebuilt a half dozen since. I own a 1927 Steinway OR Duo-Art with a Louis XVI catalog art case. Thanks for promoting the craft!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    7 ай бұрын

    It's a passion by now!

  • @drtrann2411
    @drtrann2411 Жыл бұрын

    The time and patience this must take. Absolutely incredible!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! The end result makes it all worthwhile.

  • @rty1955
    @rty19554 ай бұрын

    Just stumbled across your channel. You have great work ethics. not repair the bad things, but doing a full restoration. awesome. I restore 2" quad video tape machines and also completely tear down and rebuild leaving no stone unturned. The only way to RESTORE things that have aged. Love your attention to detail and knowledge about woods & glue. Huge amount of work, but at least you know EVERYTHING has been restored. I would love to be your apprentice! I subscribed! Keep up the great work!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    4 ай бұрын

    I really appreciate the recognition. Thank you and enjoy your projects!

  • @JasonBlaylock
    @JasonBlaylock Жыл бұрын

    Have my vote on bench testing. Would love to see how you adjust the valves if needed.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jason!

  • @jasonsummit1885
    @jasonsummit1885 Жыл бұрын

    Been enjoying this restoration series, definitely need a bench test and reconstruction video.👍

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Jason! It's in the works.

  • @seattlevegas66
    @seattlevegas66 Жыл бұрын

    Great material Nate = thank you. I am wrapping up the piano action rebuild and will be starting the player mechanism rebuild shortly. It is clear that all of the bellows need to be replaced. This is a great roadmap!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    11 ай бұрын

    Enjoy your project!

  • @iangillis1271
    @iangillis1271 Жыл бұрын

    Whole lotta work to rebuild a pneumatic deck assembly. Congrats!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! I'm not sure which I "enjoy" more - deck work or valves. So glad to have it all back together.

  • @josephblack2757
    @josephblack2757 Жыл бұрын

    "Give it my awl" I appreciate you so much

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Poke! Thanks Pal.

  • @johntyjp
    @johntyjp10 ай бұрын

    Having done some myself, Nice to watch someone else with the patience to do it! Well presented !🧐

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I always forget how much work it is.

  • @Mechsounds
    @Mechsounds Жыл бұрын

    Assembly and test please. All your episodes are very informative and educational.Thanks from DownUnder in sunny Melbourne.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Will do! Thanks for watching from across the world!

  • @bpark10001
    @bpark10001 Жыл бұрын

    The way to remove the cloth from old pneumatics (when you want to re-use the boards) is to sane the cloth off with belt/disc sander.

  • @pauljames2229
    @pauljames2229 Жыл бұрын

    Need you ask? Of course we want to see the bench testing❤ 😂

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm lucky to have some real diehard fans here!

  • @peterfriswell2875
    @peterfriswell287510 ай бұрын

    Love your work Nate and I also appreciate your sense of humour, it makes for light hearted viewing and in addition, your really clear explanations of the process. I’m slowly working my way through your set of videos and I’m just blown away by how clever and intricate the design of our player pianos is…I’ve got a few of my own. Thanks for your efforts

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    10 ай бұрын

    Thank you! I'm glad I could spread some joy.

  • @jhonwask
    @jhonwask Жыл бұрын

    Your videos are great! I was always intrigued by the mechanics of a player piano. Your knowledge has brought about great insight making me want to tackle one of those old beasts and make it into a beauty.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I could share some inspiration. Go for it! There are plenty out there to choose from.

  • @jhonwask

    @jhonwask

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nateoutsidethevacuum I hope to retire next year do that.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jhonwask congratulations! It makes sense to wait until you've got more free time.

  • @dougsmith1071
    @dougsmith1071 Жыл бұрын

    Nate, I agree with awl of the comments. Please show all steps, I am learning so much! And keep those puns rolling!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Point taken. Thanks Doug!

  • @SST11B
    @SST11B Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic work, and a joy to watch! But mentally, I keep going "88 parts, then times two, or three..."and I am more amazed that you keep it together (and can put it back together!). Really cool to watch, and much respect for your attention to details and having pride in your work, you sir are a craftsman, not just a KZreadr. But I'm glad you are a KZreadr, but, well, shit, you know what I mean 😂

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words! The tedium of the work certainly pushes my short attention span to its limits.

  • @iainarms
    @iainarms Жыл бұрын

    Yes please, string this series out for as long as possible. I'm loving every moment. Also, can you take a look at the revival playlist order please, they are all mixed up at the moment

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    It's on my to-do list to clean that up, thanks!

  • @Mrcaffinebean
    @Mrcaffinebean Жыл бұрын

    Nate I will watch any video you make buddy!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Very kind of you!

  • @arnhemseptember2009
    @arnhemseptember2009 Жыл бұрын

    Looking perfect!!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Soon to be hidden away in the piano.

  • @shangyien
    @shangyien Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great episode! I hope we can see how you regulate the stack to the piano action.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you! Yes, I'll be sure to touch on that next time.

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 Жыл бұрын

    Its very handy at about the 10 min mark that you can buy a box of perfectly sized strips of cloth for the bellows. who of thunk 🤷‍♂ 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You know we all want to see a bench test. Great video 2x👍

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    I wish more parts would come that way. Wink wink!

  • @dcallan812

    @dcallan812

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nateoutsidethevacuum 🤣 👍

  • @revchrismerchant
    @revchrismerchant Жыл бұрын

    Great video content. I have use the nylon cloth and plastic glue on a Duo-art stack and it plays very strong. I didn't care for the speed it took to set up. Still prefer using the hide glue and rubber cloth for speed. I use a bench belt sander to clean up the edges of the pneumatics. Makes short work of 88. Keep up the good work. Hate to see this trade vanish..

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Chris! Yes, the synthetic glue is definitely slow to grab.

  • @AAErikCO
    @AAErikCO Жыл бұрын

    Pneumatics look great! I vote bench test!

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks! It's in the works.

  • @jklingeroo77
    @jklingeroo777 ай бұрын

    I greatly enjoy all your videos, and as a player rebuilder myself, I'm always interested to see what other folks use in their techniques and materials, especially with silicone sheeting being used more and more for tight valve and gasket work. That being said, I'm curious as to your workshop. Did you inherit/take over a pre-existing piano restorer's setup? You've got an impressive work space and expansive supplies/parts/tooling selection. While I believe you to be a bit younger than I, what I'm seeing seems to be something akin to a workshop belonging a long-experienced veteran. If you indeed started from scratch and built this wonderland from the ground up, then BRAVO I say! There are less and less rebuilders of these wonderful machines these days with their collections being scattered to the 7 winds, at best, but usually being hauled away. I applaud what you've done, and anticipate what you've yet to do.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    7 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment. I've built my "toolbox" from the ground up. I have been working on player pianos for 10 years now and have been full-time for 5 years.

  • @andrewbarrett1537

    @andrewbarrett1537

    5 ай бұрын

    Nate is the protege' of the late Don Barton of Barton Player Piano Co. of the Twin Cities (Minneapolis / St Paul). Although- I don't know how many of his tools have been inherited or bought from there and how many he got on his own, but certainly this is his own home workshop. But anyway Nate isn't totally self taught here. I think he ably keeps the tradition going now that Mr Barton's company is gone with his retirement and passing.

  • @Mrcaffinebean
    @Mrcaffinebean Жыл бұрын

    I ran across the devils phlegm on my player the other day the nipple block for the tracking mechanism. I don’t understand why someone would just assume that part should be permanent.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Ouch! Usually it's from ignorance, carelessness, or desperation.

  • @wurly164
    @wurly164 Жыл бұрын

    First off, you're too young to tell dad jokes, but keep them coming...because I'm a dad. I see you used Poplar for the pneumatic's, is this what was used originally? Now that you have all pneumatic's , what will you do with the oldmatics? Ba da boom. Great video thanks for making these.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Ha! Thanks for the laugh today! From what I can tell they used poplar originally. It's a nice species to work with.

  • @ruhlfamilyfarm8047
    @ruhlfamilyfarm8047 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Nate, do you have a suggestion for treating the leather nuts to prevent corrosion of the metal push rods? In examining my 34 year old rebuild of my Standard action, the nuts have moderately to severely corroded the push rods. I would rather not go with plastic nuts if I can treat the new leather nuts somehow to prevent this corrosion over the years. Also, PBS should start a series called "This Old Player Piano" starring YOU! You have the personality, wit and knowledge to pull it off! Your projects are very interesting and show all the excellent craftsmanship like Norm Abrams did on "This Old House" and "New Yankee Workshop". A show like that (or even a one time documentary) would help promote and save old player pianos! Cheers! Chip in PA.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Chip! Thanks for the very kind words! It could be fun to do a "bigger and better" show like that. As far as the crusty nuts go, my recommendation would be to replace them. I've seen cases where the threads have almost completely corroded away because of modern leather.

  • @MichaelMcCloy
    @MichaelMcCloy Жыл бұрын

    If you're making an episode on assembly and testing I think that will be awesome! Everything so far has been so thorough, seeing every step of the process is fun to watch and also super informative. I wonder how many pianos out there will wind up getting restored in the future because of your work making these videos? I can tell you for sure there's at least one underway already that is benefiting from this!

  • @jorgeandrade20

    @jorgeandrade20

    Жыл бұрын

    Make that two!

  • @mendozaleedap

    @mendozaleedap

    Жыл бұрын

    and a third here....

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow! I'm glad I can share some inspiration, just as others have done for me.

  • @mendozaleedap

    @mendozaleedap

    Жыл бұрын

    @@nateoutsidethevacuum I’ve gotten the book about player pianos and am working my way through now…. I am interested in the sources for your silicone sheets and fabrics. Your videos have the best balance of entertainment and information! Well done

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    www.ebay.com/itm/131856892353 I hope this link works. This is the gasket material I use. The cloth is the thin variety from the DC Ramey website. dcramey.com/Supplies2.html

  • @greggilbert78
    @greggilbert78 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Nate - Another enjoyable episode! I especially like that you put the pneumatic cloth strips in the "Strip Polka" QRS box. Would you consider telling us where you're getting your plastic (nylon?) nuts? Thanks

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Greg! Thanks for watching so closely. I get the plastic nuts from OSI, but have also gotten "thread forming" nylon nuts from McMaster-Carr in the past.

  • @andrewbarrett1537

    @andrewbarrett1537

    Жыл бұрын

    For any readers not “in the know”: OSI = Organ Supply Industries in Pennsylvania.

  • @danielmkubacki
    @danielmkubacki Жыл бұрын

    What the difference? Taste. LOL

  • @billgottesman6106
    @billgottesman6106 Жыл бұрын

    Hello Nate, can you say something about using plastic nuts in place of leather nuts? Is it to prevent corrosion on the rod? Do the plastic nuts have adequate friction to stay in place? Are they 3-d printed, or off-the-shelf threaded nuts? By the way, I really enjoyed your sunny side up joke a few episodes back.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Bill. Thanks for watching! The plastic nuts are to avoid corrosion caused by leather nuts. They are a very tight fit. I got them from OSI, but have also used "thread-forming nylon nuts" from OSI in the past.

  • @SnickasBah
    @SnickasBah8 ай бұрын

    Get rid of their old graffiti lol. Those hooligans.

  • @nateoutsidethevacuum

    @nateoutsidethevacuum

    8 ай бұрын

    The best restoration is one that doesn't look like it's been done.

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