Play DORIAN Over Everything (Pat Martino Bebop Approach)

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  • @chrisharrison809
    @chrisharrison8094 ай бұрын

    You sound great. The clicking of your pick on the pickups is driving me crazy lol

  • @JLS_CNRD

    @JLS_CNRD

    3 ай бұрын

    He could play more quietly, would sound more jazzy. Good lesson though

  • @rockettroll1507

    @rockettroll1507

    3 ай бұрын

    👍

  • @Optical_Ollusion

    @Optical_Ollusion

    2 ай бұрын

    Lower that pickup! I have the same problem with middle pickups lol I understand completely

  • @fivefingerfullprice3403

    @fivefingerfullprice3403

    Ай бұрын

    @@JLS_CNRD He needs to either raise his pick up or move it so it doesn't hit the pickup.

  • @YEM_

    @YEM_

    25 күн бұрын

    Yeah, surface picking. You should only be just barley scraping the surface of the string. Your pick should never go that deep.

  • @m.vonhollen6673
    @m.vonhollen66733 ай бұрын

    Martino taught us this: there are 2 “symmetrical parental forms”, the augmented triad and the fully diminished 7th chord. 1) the augmented triad (1-3-#5) is easy-to-grab and can be used to quickly form other triads. If you play 554 on GBE, that’s C+ (C augmented) as well as E+ and G#+. (There are only 4 augmented triads as they repeat.)If you LOWER any one of those notes, you will form an E, a G#, and a C major triad. If instead you RAISE any one of those notes, you will form a C# minor, an F minor, and an A minor triad (the relative minor triads of each of the major triads). 2) the fully diminished 7th chord (1-b3-b5-bb7) is also easy-to grab and can be used to quickly form other 7th chords. If you play 4545 on DGBE, that’s F#/C/D#/A Diminished. (They repeat every 3 frets just as the augmented triad repeats every 4 frets.) If you LOWER any one of those notes, you will form F/B/D/G# Dominant 7. If instead you RAISE any one of those notes, you will form A/D#/F#/C Half-Diminished 7th chords (1-b3-b5-b7). So one Augmented triad “parents” 6 other chords, 3 major triads and 3 minor triads; and one Diminished 7th chord “parents” 8 other chords, 4 Dominant 7th chords and 4 Half-Diminished 7th chords. Martino saw the fretboard in a unique way. Pure genius!

  • @aprilnelly
    @aprilnelly4 ай бұрын

    I spent 3 summers at the Old Shire in Cape May NJ. Pat was performing there anonymously, under his mother's maiden name, "Azzara". This was after he came out of the coma, and was putting himself back together. Early 1980s. Respect to Wayne Piersanti.

  • @MrDirtydaves

    @MrDirtydaves

    4 ай бұрын

    I live in cape may and know(and play) with a lot of guys who played at the shire. One of the old cooks/musicians there was my roommate for a couple of years and moved into an apartment over the old shire space(wayne still owns the property)

  • @effsixteenblock50

    @effsixteenblock50

    3 ай бұрын

    Azzara isn't his mom's maiden name. It's his father's last name. In other words - Azzara is Pat's last name. "Martino" is his stage name.

  • @ValirAmaril

    @ValirAmaril

    Ай бұрын

    Maybe its just me but, Azzara sounds way cooler than Martino imo. Same for Joe Passalaqua > Joe Pass.

  • @aprilnelly

    @aprilnelly

    Ай бұрын

    @ValirAmaril Italian sounding names still had a bad rap in some industries, due to stereotyping. Peek behind the curtain of the Kennedy presidency: ) untraditional candidte background. ) meanwhile the italians carried alot of water for him. ) and then JFK never reciprocated while in office. But I agree. Azzara sounds smooth

  • @ValirAmaril

    @ValirAmaril

    Ай бұрын

    @@aprilnelly ok that makes sense

  • @TheEnd-vn9rb
    @TheEnd-vn9rbАй бұрын

    Dude, I’ve been searching for this for so long. Thank you! Love the way your brain works!

  • @alchemysticgoldmind4164
    @alchemysticgoldmind41644 ай бұрын

    This is a Great Post..keep bangin it bro..much love❤‼👍🏿🔥🎸

  • @timdale4500
    @timdale45004 ай бұрын

    So grateful for this Armin, thank you so so much

  • @tenbroeck1958
    @tenbroeck19582 ай бұрын

    Thank you for making this digestible! I got this book, Linear Expressions, several years ago, but wasn't sure what to do with it. This made me locate it, and start applying the information. Very cool stuff. Peace

  • @georgesember9069
    @georgesember90694 ай бұрын

    Thanks for posting. Enjoyed!

  • @Blackjawreen
    @Blackjawreen4 ай бұрын

    😮😮😮ohhhh fretmate you know what you walked through my mind .Got the book and been tryina to dissect the info .And you nailed it .Cmon man hats off

  • @TreeintheQuad
    @TreeintheQuad4 ай бұрын

    I’ll have to check out the book. Thanks for the great video!

  • @jimsweetman9587
    @jimsweetman95874 ай бұрын

    Totally got it. Pat was the king of swing!

  • @ensaerodynamics8615
    @ensaerodynamics86152 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this great lesson and Pat's insights

  • @lancerigby3662
    @lancerigby3662Ай бұрын

    I love this book. Great licks that lay nicely on the fretboard.

  • @Optical_Ollusion
    @Optical_Ollusion2 ай бұрын

    Really great and simple concept!

  • @pangeaproxima3681
    @pangeaproxima36814 ай бұрын

    Awesome! Pat Martino's the GOAT!

  • @user-cd3tq9ye2p
    @user-cd3tq9ye2p4 ай бұрын

    i was kinda noodling around this concept and figure out something useful. thanks for this

  • @jshackelford31
    @jshackelford313 ай бұрын

    I have this book and you're right about the book. It's great and I've been trying to apply it in my playing. It also a good book to learn note reading

  • @liveguitarcast
    @liveguitarcast4 ай бұрын

    Thx, great lesson

  • @Jimi-bx3xf
    @Jimi-bx3xfАй бұрын

    Yes i learned all the patterns of linear expressions

  • @FretboardMaestro
    @FretboardMaestro4 ай бұрын

    I met him once at the Iridium and told him I wanted to study with him, after I got done with college. He gave me his business card. Then I moved back to upstate NY and started having a family. Then he passed away, I'm sad I never actually got a chance to study with him.

  • @user-cd3tq9ye2p
    @user-cd3tq9ye2p4 ай бұрын

    Martino had a big influence on me to, his vocabulary is insane

  • @chrissguitarshow206
    @chrissguitarshow2064 ай бұрын

    The way i do it is using modes if i m going to play in b flat major i use c dorian because its close ro pentatonic shape i am used to and it works.

  • @SlowBluesInc
    @SlowBluesInc4 ай бұрын

    I got this book a while ago and learned most of the exercises, but was unclear as to how to incorporate it. And now.....I'm still unclear about it. 😵‍💫

  • @millwall930

    @millwall930

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes me too ,, no tab no go (

  • @user-cd3tq9ye2p
    @user-cd3tq9ye2p4 ай бұрын

    i get the modal thing about starting phrases on taget notes lets say that on a g minor that based on dorian lets say with passing tones or diminished notes aded to it, if you start the b flat for a line i g minor, it will brings out a lydian sounds, the D will be based on aeolian and so on, am i right?

  • @bluevd12
    @bluevd12Ай бұрын

    Great stuff ...ignore picky people who cant deal with physical elements around us...Purest dig a hole ...

  • @Guitarmin98

    @Guitarmin98

    29 күн бұрын

    Thanks man!

  • @mattwallis1893
    @mattwallis18933 ай бұрын

    I still have my original copy which I bought in the 80s. One of the best books I own and I still play the patterns. I believe that Wes Montgomery may have used a similar approach.

  • @TheRealSandleford
    @TheRealSandleford4 ай бұрын

    you talk minor 7 you got a major 6 inversion. if you got minor 6 you got a minor 7 flat 5 inversion and its also a dominant with a 9. Dorian its an extension of a dominant starting on the 5 579 and the 7th 7911 is the other thats a 4 chord or a dominant 11 chord ... quite close to the 2 also

  • @Malcolm.Y
    @Malcolm.Y2 ай бұрын

    I hope this helps. Martino did not say he plays "dorian." He is an exact extended quote: “Unlike quite a number of players who are focused on modal interaction with chord forms, alterations within those chords forms, intervocalically or modally, I find it most comfortable of all to use the Minor Seventh constantly, And when I way the Minor Seventh, I am not specifically referring to scalar use - the normal minor scale, the harmonic minor, so on and so forth. Or by the same token modally, the Dorian Mode, the Lydian Mode, the Mixolydian Mode,and all of these. Interacting with transcribers in the past, I have come to see that a great deal of my playing has been analyzed along modal points. And really I have never given any thought to this approach. I think of things primarily in a very simplistic kind of way, which I refer to in a general context as a Minor Seventh. The Minor Seventh, is, of course, in my context, has been through experience quite a number of line forms that I find extremely pleasing... When I play something like this [plays a short phrase] in the case of a C Minor, being a substitution for an F7, and that F7 could be an F13, it could be quite a number of things. It could be an F7#5, and F7b5. In my case, I generally refer to it as a Minor Seventh.”

  • @thesecretsoundsjazz

    @thesecretsoundsjazz

    Ай бұрын

    I took a masterclass with Pat about 18 years ago (and I have an autographed copy of Linear Expressions, as well as a binder with he gave out with The Nature of Guitar). Someone in the audience asked specifically if he was thinking in terms of Dorian, and he shot him down, saying he didn't think in terms of modes at all.

  • @Malcolm.Y

    @Malcolm.Y

    Ай бұрын

    @@thesecretsoundsjazz I believe that. I just quoted him saying the same thing from a video seminar that is on KZread. If anyone wants to see, I'l tell them where to find it. Also, you can look in Linear Expression at Activity 3 on page 13. Two of the first five notes are F#. There is no F# in G Dorian. I am very confident that what I call the first generation, guys born in teh 1920s - guitarists like Ellis, Kessel and Pass - never learned "modes." I don't think it became part of the jazz pedagogy until the 1970s. My personal opinion is that the idea of "modes" creates more confusion than clarity.

  • @pawelsto9801
    @pawelsto98014 ай бұрын

    I always had an inpression that thinking "in minor" makes things easier but I couldn't say why.

  • @keithpearson6900
    @keithpearson69004 ай бұрын

    mentioned before but love everything you put out. Is this plugged in? It sounds different and more appealing to the ears! Hearing jazz tones (reminds me of velvet) is the coolest thing.

  • @keithpearson6900

    @keithpearson6900

    4 ай бұрын

    Dumb question because I know it is! What are you running it/recording it through?

  • @grantgre
    @grantgre4 ай бұрын

    OK but where did you get the incidental on the first scale on the G there's a D flat and why did he end up on the E

  • @grantgre
    @grantgre4 ай бұрын

    yeah but hold up where did he get those incidentals on that on those lines like the ones starting on the G where to get the G flat? And why did he decide to end on the E

  • @Blackjawreen
    @Blackjawreen4 ай бұрын

    Hey bro what model of Eastman do you play

  • @tonysoprano1462
    @tonysoprano1462Ай бұрын

    The similarity of all these 4 lines is that they all land on E note (the sixth of G). Ain't I right?

  • @wings3776
    @wings37763 ай бұрын

    For whatever reason it’s easier for me to think of natural minor up a whole step from a Dom7th chord.

  • @ashdebash2008
    @ashdebash200826 күн бұрын

    Can anyone clarify this question... if I'm applying this method to a standard, then for literally every chord, I should figure out the associated minor, then use parts of these activities over each chord as they change, and gradually link the whole thing together?

  • @stevens7920

    @stevens7920

    25 күн бұрын

    Pretty much. If you find the associated minor then you can play that over the chord. The exercises are just some licks to help you do that, but ultimately knowing the associated minor gives you enough to start working out your own chops.

  • @guitar9310
    @guitar93102 ай бұрын

    I LOVE dorian. I also LOVE superimposing melodic minor over it!!!

  • @AndoniDiazPuerta
    @AndoniDiazPuerta4 ай бұрын

    I have the same question by @ZCBeats1 . How did you apply to a real standard? The lines are too long thought...

  • @carlospellot2426

    @carlospellot2426

    4 ай бұрын

    Look for Pat Martino's "Creative Force" (book & video) True Fire Nature of the guitar (course by Pat)

  • @effsixteenblock50

    @effsixteenblock50

    3 ай бұрын

    You're not suppose to play them verbatim - these are just "areas of activity" (as Pat refers to them). Just use chunks of them.

  • @ZCBeats1
    @ZCBeats14 ай бұрын

    In the All things you are demo I don't fully understand how you're incorperating those excsercies into the song because the excsercies are way too long to fit over any given chord so are you just picking out parts of the line to use over any given chord and then changing the root note accordingly?

  • @Rob-in7vp

    @Rob-in7vp

    3 ай бұрын

    Also trying to figure this out, but I think you play the line until the chord changes, then find the next line for the next chord (convert the chord to minor) in the position closest to where you are, and play that next line from the note closest to where you finished the previous. The book has a 'Line Study' where it goes through all 12 keys, kind of doing this.

  • @millwall930
    @millwall9302 ай бұрын

    Does anyone know if this book was printed in tab ? 👍

  • @yoojin-oi8ij

    @yoojin-oi8ij

    2 ай бұрын

    FOR THE LOVE OF GOD,.... JUST LEARN HOW TO READ !!!!!!

  • @awolseb
    @awolseb3 ай бұрын

    Dude. Can you not hear the sound of your plectrum hitting the pickup cover?

  • @FretboardMaestro
    @FretboardMaestro4 ай бұрын

    It's a great book, it's on Scribd, well now it's called Everand...

  • @ZCBeats1
    @ZCBeats14 ай бұрын

    7:47

  • @AmilcarAlho-hj4fe
    @AmilcarAlho-hj4feАй бұрын

    4:47

  • @ZCBeats1
    @ZCBeats14 ай бұрын

    8:09

  • @barryo5158
    @barryo51582 ай бұрын

    I’ve heard Pat say he had nothing to do with that book.

  • @user-xr8yj8ic8u
    @user-xr8yj8ic8u4 ай бұрын

    This is unclear. What modes are you playing over each note of the chord? Anyone?

  • @effsixteenblock50

    @effsixteenblock50

    3 ай бұрын

    It's got nothing to do with modes. Pat said so himself.

  • @lee95757
    @lee957573 ай бұрын

    Martino said he had nothing to do with that book. Apparently written by someone else.

  • @jakemf1
    @jakemf13 ай бұрын

    No disrespect meant but this is the second video by a player that has the pick hitting the pick up. This is so distracting for the listener from what you are trying to convey.

  • @MadeByMurray
    @MadeByMurray4 ай бұрын

    Haha this is crazy

  • @patrickpowell5430
    @patrickpowell54304 ай бұрын

    I don’t mean to be unkind, but this guy’s ‘explanation’ is hopeless. I have no idea what he’s getting at.

  • @barakados
    @barakados3 ай бұрын

    stop hiting the humbucker, please!!!

  • @carlodevivomusicontent2138
    @carlodevivomusicontent21384 ай бұрын

    You like your "Likes" don't you 😅 in 3 words 10 are "like" 😅❤❤

  • @bvazz6930
    @bvazz69302 ай бұрын

    OH MAAAAAN! I've had the same problem. I read and learn a bit and it helps but still? There are no jazz guys around me and I'm an older guy so my options aren't a lot, but I think this is gonna help! Pat Martino is like a genius that I couldn't understand (well most jazz guys are) but I could almost get his instructions. I knew it was genius but I'd put it off to hopefully a point when I was better. THAT TIME MIGHT BE TODAY. Thanks! ❤️‍🩹

  • @marceli155
    @marceli1553 ай бұрын

    Pat plays all ways melodic minor not a dorian !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @effsixteenblock50

    @effsixteenblock50

    3 ай бұрын

    You're right in that it's not dorian but it's not melodic minor either. It's not modal - it's a m7 "grip" where yes, the natural 6th is available, the b7 is too (dorian?) but so is the natural 7 (melodic minor?). Then all the chromatic notes. Pat said he never thought in modal terms whatsoever.

  • @AmilcarAlho-hj4fe
    @AmilcarAlho-hj4feАй бұрын

    5:15