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  • @azizyosri2058
    @azizyosri20582 жыл бұрын

    i remember being like him when i hit plat, now im diamond and my ego is even bigger

  • @yournemesis192

    @yournemesis192

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don’t even see an ego on this guy.

  • @niklasabc7149

    @niklasabc7149

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yournemesis192 i do

  • @mlgmcdonaldsland7063

    @mlgmcdonaldsland7063

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@yournemesis192 He started to be defensive towards the end but that's completely understandable

  • @YuYuYuna_

    @YuYuYuna_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mlgmcdonaldsland7063 Is it really though?

  • @nikoragkos811

    @nikoragkos811

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lmao

  • @RickSanchez-pl6jw
    @RickSanchez-pl6jw2 жыл бұрын

    Neace: use your pot Client: gets high

  • @clovermite

    @clovermite

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol well played

  • @randy45

    @randy45

    2 жыл бұрын

    lmao

  • @crimson4773

    @crimson4773

    2 жыл бұрын

    I burst out laughing thank you my g

  • @saisurisetti6278

    @saisurisetti6278

    2 жыл бұрын

    Underrated lol

  • @Cocho_Kat

    @Cocho_Kat

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice

  • @Memecorp
    @Memecorp2 жыл бұрын

    Dude paid $250 to get roasted.

  • @lowserver2

    @lowserver2

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themaltman34? Why

  • @SalsaEdits

    @SalsaEdits

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themaltman34 It's really not. His entire brand is being this straight forward with clients who pay for his time, knowledge, and experience. So him just being, what's seems like extra straighforward isn't bad. It's just more on-par with what we should expect from Neace

  • @clovermite

    @clovermite

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themaltman34 No, it's not. Neace was spot on with this guy. It's a horrible look for the client.

  • @dmm119

    @dmm119

    2 жыл бұрын

    All the guy had to do was press W lol. It was really a simple concept he wasn't grasping. Neace laid out the plan and the guy was vaping shoveling cashews in his mouth and watching chat going ungabunga instead of trying to get value from the coaching.

  • @wedd44

    @wedd44

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@themaltman34 neace has one job, and its to make the clients better players after, not to be their friends, he's straight to the point, and if its anyone who has a horrible look for, it's the client with plat-egoitis, especially with his responses (or there lack of) to the answers neace asked him towards the end

  • @yoshikuu
    @yoshikuu2 жыл бұрын

    “I didn’t learn shit today” I can’t get the EQW combo out of my head after watching this with how many times neace had to tell him lmao💀

  • @PowerMouseMousic

    @PowerMouseMousic

    2 жыл бұрын

    Seriously, I've never played Wukong but I probably won't ever forget that

  • @Vanguard1262

    @Vanguard1262

    2 жыл бұрын

    This video has inspired me to play wukong

  • @SteezyyGG

    @SteezyyGG

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve never played wukong in my life but I feel like I now know him better than the champs I do play. E, Auto, Q, W or short trade E,Q,W or E, auto, Q, W behind him into an R. I don’t know if wukong automatically autos with his E but you kinda get the point

  • @TheAKD56

    @TheAKD56

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@SteezyyGG Wukong do unless you pressed stop earlier. You are right tho

  • @hemizphere2828

    @hemizphere2828

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@PowerMouseMousic this. this is exactly what I was thinking

  • @gvg870
    @gvg8702 жыл бұрын

    This is starting to become a reality series, not coaching sessions. I love it though :D

  • @jasserbelkhiria3894

    @jasserbelkhiria3894

    2 жыл бұрын

    fully agree with you

  • @kelvintraylor7551

    @kelvintraylor7551

    2 жыл бұрын

    💀💀

  • @YuYuYuna_

    @YuYuYuna_

    2 жыл бұрын

    I mean it's only a coaching session so long as the client is willing to listen and do what is asked of them and ask questions after the play is over/post match. A lot of the people he uploads here refuse to listen and love to make excuses, as is common place with low elo league players. It's never their fault, it's always something else.

  • @jt1761

    @jt1761

    Жыл бұрын

    Yep then Neace ends it with "I don't think you got much from this coaching session". Ummm sir that is at least partially your fault as the fucking teacher.

  • @addy405

    @addy405

    Жыл бұрын

    i remember being like him when i hit plat, now im diamond

  • @izzymcgdog7653
    @izzymcgdog76532 жыл бұрын

    At 22:35 Neace hugs his cat and then the client laughs even though he's staring at reksai doing blue. So he must have been watching the stream.

  • @Dreamswept55

    @Dreamswept55

    2 жыл бұрын

    noticed that too.

  • @saisurisetti6278

    @saisurisetti6278

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yup!

  • @osas9958

    @osas9958

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats what neace wanted to know

  • @earlyman352

    @earlyman352

    2 жыл бұрын

    you wouldnt notice a whole cat showing up on your screen? i dont think its so out of the ordinary to peek at stream while youre on your way to lane lol

  • @slow8478

    @slow8478

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@earlyman352 but why even watch stream when your goal is to rank up

  • @thema8871
    @thema88712 жыл бұрын

    Damn mr editor trying to win an award or something with this one. The effect at 0:52 killed me lmao

  • @rsmith8113

    @rsmith8113

    2 жыл бұрын

    The intro is so good, it’s one of the best I’ve ever seen haha

  • @clovermite

    @clovermite

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rsmith8113 For real. No cap

  • @vidarr57

    @vidarr57

    2 жыл бұрын

    fr this editor good man this the type of shit we like to see

  • @AustiuNoMatterWho

    @AustiuNoMatterWho

    2 жыл бұрын

    The editor is on point

  • @HolidayDocGetALife

    @HolidayDocGetALife

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lmaoooo the editor is goated for this session

  • @ryswick1064
    @ryswick10642 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna go out on a limb for this one. I do believe this guy came to learn, he's just not able to process things quickly. I'm thinking all that muscle memory of shitty Plat Wukong is what prevented him from instantly adapting. I personally play worse when talking with friends on Discord. I need to put music on to get in the zone and concentrate. I think maybe this guy just isn't great at learning on the fly and need more preparation. He's young, and self-conscious, I think it's understandable he'd be a bit nervous with the chat. No excuse with the vaping/eating excuse though. Dude needs to focus up.

  • @NuclearNuke41

    @NuclearNuke41

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree. He might not meant to ego. I haven't seen it in the video.

  • @Chaist1994

    @Chaist1994

    2 жыл бұрын

    As Neace mentioned at the end, he was deflecting to save face. He obviously was not confident at all. In my opinion instead of taking a hard stance as Neace always does it would be the right choice to take a soft stance for this guy. For instance simply asking him why he is reading chat, eating what ever in a ranked game (I am pretty sure it was a deflecting behaviour as well). Neace could have easily getten him into closing his stream, stop eating or drinking while in game, doing the combo or leveling with the keyboard if he would have taken a softer stance. I am very sure about it. I am pretty sure, as he somewhere mentioned for instance that he did not have the bindings for leveling the r. Just call him out after the game and let him change it. He most definitly had different things on his mind to do it himslef. But well, he should have also known how Neace goes about things. And Neace is not particulary wrong, that this is indead an ego thing. And I am pretty sure the guy himself is aware of it. Its just a 'different' ego thing than what people in the comments proclaim it to be.

  • @JalenF

    @JalenF

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea playing on coms takes over your thinking. You heard others thoughts and that’s hard to ignore at times.

  • @pergaman6334

    @pergaman6334

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Chaist1994 I think you are completely right, and Neace should not always go for the roasting strat imo. Sometimes its more constructing to be calm and point them on faults in a more subtle and specific way. But yea, I guess his coaching sessions are more becoming a sitcom tbh. Love the content tho !

  • @Chaist1994

    @Chaist1994

    2 жыл бұрын

    @Mubu Mubu I do not really get your point, but I can respond to what I have understood: He did prepare, he mentioned so in the video even; maybe to little, but my point is that it is a scale not binary. He was respectful, to a degree, obviously eating in the session was not. You cannot single out instances of his behaviour and proclaim him to be disrespectful through out the whole session. Also respectfulness or politeness may differ from culture to culture. Heck even different regions of the same country may have different standarts theirein. I am very sure he was mentally prepared to learn. Your metaphor doesnt really fit in my opinion and to my observations. So yes it was embarrassing, but not only because of that guys behaviour, but also because Neace made it so. The guy could have behaved in a way so Neace could do his usual thing, or Neace could have done differently to get the guy to do what he suppose was right. I did not judge, I just stated that the option exists.

  • @smkfet
    @smkfet2 жыл бұрын

    I feel like this should be a motivational tale for Bronze players as this guy apparently climbed to Plat 1 based solely on his skill at CSing

  • @ZaddySeeBot

    @ZaddySeeBot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Guy ate every enemy ability he could

  • @PlantsForHire

    @PlantsForHire

    2 жыл бұрын

    That’s my positive takeaway too lol

  • @joserico8449

    @joserico8449

    2 жыл бұрын

    Apparently thats posible in NA

  • @rsmith8113

    @rsmith8113

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don’t know how he’s plat. Literally no clue

  • @stefansimicic

    @stefansimicic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@rsmith8113 NA server, everything possible

  • @iXShadow
    @iXShadow2 жыл бұрын

    I'm convinced this is what all of my plat teammates are doing in my games

  • @clovermite

    @clovermite

    2 жыл бұрын

    Vaping and eating cashews?

  • @marcusmeins1839

    @marcusmeins1839

    2 жыл бұрын

    There is a reason why they are in that rank

  • @TheKittyClink

    @TheKittyClink

    2 жыл бұрын

    plat is the elo u get to and think ur the best but really u just coinflipped and got lucky.

  • @YuYuYuna_

    @YuYuYuna_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @qeuarfbhq3iwushbq Not really. Platinum is literally gold level mechanics with slightly better farming and teamfighting/objective play. Platinum players get an ego because they FINALLY escaped the pit of despair that is gold elo and they're "so close!" to Diamond that they feel they have the right to have an ego. They don't. That's why the majority of them stay in Plat 4/3.

  • @YuYuYuna_

    @YuYuYuna_

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheKittyClink Delusional player. If you think the only way to get to plat is by just spamming games and "getting lucky" then you are coping hard so you can excuse your own inability and short comings in your play.

  • @elijahvalencia3293
    @elijahvalencia32932 жыл бұрын

    "I'm drinking water, I'm vaping, I'm eating cashews...(reading chat too)." Funny how he didn't deny not watching the map but denies reading the chat. I agree, it's right in front of him lol

  • @juliusthebeaver5326

    @juliusthebeaver5326

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ericaramos3307 The coaching session was horrible due to the client thinking it was a joke, why would neace refund it if he was trying to do his job? And yes vaping is a problem when it comes to you paying 250$ to goof around and eat cashews, it's fine if he does that when he is playing alone, not in a streamed coaching session that was expensive...

  • @MegaDlarge

    @MegaDlarge

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juliusthebeaver5326 it's his money ain't it 😭 if he wants to have the full experience see himself on the stream see what the chat thinks of how he's doing that's his prerogative isn't it?

  • @juliusthebeaver5326

    @juliusthebeaver5326

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MegaDlarge Of course, but then if he wants to do that he doesnt has the right to complain about the coaching or about being roasted, nor does Neace need to refund him.

  • @MegaDlarge

    @MegaDlarge

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juliusthebeaver5326 Basically I just thing he has the wrong impression on this one, I think it's because he has had many clients who behave as he describes in the past. There was a solid 2 month period on the channel where arrogant clients were meta, it was pure entertainment. But I do think that those experiences have put him in a place during this session where he was just triggered by one thing the fella did and then just started picking at him.

  • @slicesofsib5572

    @slicesofsib5572

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@juliusthebeaver5326 Dude everyone has then right to a REFUND, if it is in the terms and conditions NEACE has to period!

  • @Saikopasu-Shogo
    @Saikopasu-Shogo2 жыл бұрын

    5:37 shaco box range shows only the range of activation, the fear range is slightly higher, keep that in mind when you play against Shaco :)

  • @kylewilhite4162

    @kylewilhite4162

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you.

  • @awdsgrgde6979

    @awdsgrgde6979

    2 жыл бұрын

    What a deceptive champion :/

  • @crisnmaryfam7344

    @crisnmaryfam7344

    Жыл бұрын

    @@awdsgrgde6979 Thats his whole kit. If you cant pull deceptive moves off with him you fail hard.

  • @felixnowotka4245
    @felixnowotka42452 жыл бұрын

    I mean Neace must know all about the ego problems

  • @sergejkrypi3144

    @sergejkrypi3144

    9 ай бұрын

    Yeah but Neace is challenger not plat player

  • @Kpizzo

    @Kpizzo

    3 ай бұрын

    @@sergejkrypi3144not NA challenger, he lied about that.

  • @kozmiic

    @kozmiic

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Kpizzo And he has made challenger in Korea ,Na is not that good of a server stop the 🧢

  • @Kpizzo

    @Kpizzo

    2 ай бұрын

    @@kozmiic beside the point

  • @VDViktor

    @VDViktor

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Kpizzoeverything that doesnt support your pov is “beside the point”, you’re one of those types

  • @andrewphillips4266
    @andrewphillips42662 жыл бұрын

    Recap Neace: Press "W" Client: No, I don't think I will

  • @Shiodiodia

    @Shiodiodia

    2 жыл бұрын

    *Inception [Sound Effect]*

  • @kellenoneill2050

    @kellenoneill2050

    2 жыл бұрын

    I've only watched the first game but Neace is blowing this way out of proportion so far. He clearly E Q W'd on Shaco several times in lane, yeah he could have done it more but he's trying to follow Neace's directions to avoid the boxes. When Neace freaks out on him at 14:50, he literally takes a single auto from Senna that did less than 50 damage. There's zero reason to waste your W there. I would check out mentally too, it's just bad coaching to yell at your student when they haven't even done anything wrong.

  • @treyrepak

    @treyrepak

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellenoneill2050 Using it a few times correctly out during games that can last up to an hour doesn’t not translate to a win as much as understanding your champion and literally just hitting the W button after you go in ALL THE TIME when you’re taking a short trade are actually very different things that Neace was trying to coach. Hitting W should be muscle memory, it’s not something you really “optimally use”.

  • @cloudownsyounoob

    @cloudownsyounoob

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kellenoneill2050 Part of good coaching is making someone feel comfortable. This guy is making content a la LS. And I like both, but this is obviously intentionally overblown into "PLAT EGO"

  • @markopolic9964

    @markopolic9964

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@cloudownsyounoob It really isn't. IF you pay me to coach you how to do something and come with that attitude of not paying attention to the game and instead watching what fking chat says, then Im screaming at you till you start listening. Comfort on classes is a privilege you earn by being polite and listening. Try teaching anyone anything for a living and you'll see how it goes.

  • @dskiles04
    @dskiles042 жыл бұрын

    I have no idea what this guys history is, but his responses to Neace remind me alot of my own Trauma responses. As someone who was ridiculed heavily most of my childhood I tend to interpret most criticism as an attack because in my experience as a child with criticism came ridicule and attacks to my self worth. This kind of conditioning can make coaching incredibly challenging, At first he is trying to laugh off the yelling from Neace to disengage, later he is just trying to be the first to criticize himself before Neace even mentions it to try to maybe avoid the taunting, (And it was taunting, theres no need to be that condescending to someone in a coaching situation other than appeasing other people for entertainment) then by the end he has given up. He has resigned himself to the fact he will not receive any positive reinforcement for anything he does right and will constantly receive negative reinforcement for mistakes he makes. So he just removes all attachment to the situation and this is where we here him saying stuff like "Chat Im just playing league" and "Does it not feel like im following your instructions" Now maybe there was alot more context in the entire live stream but this just feels super familiar to me as someone who has spent quite a bit of time in therapy trying to fix my own trauma responses. This video does feel like it was intentionally edited to highlight the drama so maybe it was alot more cordial than this but I just felt kind of bad for this guy the whole time.

  • @danny1ft1
    @danny1ft12 жыл бұрын

    He's actually watching you while playing too, he laughed when you picked cat up this guy ain't even focused 100%.

  • @MittyNispa

    @MittyNispa

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dude has down time walking back to lane, this is unnecessary nitpicking. It’s 8 minutes into the game and nothing is happening.

  • @evilerroryt8448

    @evilerroryt8448

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MittyNispa that's time being afk

  • @MittyNispa

    @MittyNispa

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@evilerroryt8448 you are also nitpicking.

  • @Wolfcub-tb2iy

    @Wolfcub-tb2iy

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MittyNispa while it is nitpicky, they also do have a bit of a point. When you are with a team and playing flex to practice for tourneys etc.... are you going to be having a stream up? No, you shouldn't. That is things off to the side for distraction. Best i would have up is some music. Also, him talking about what the chat is saying is very similar to in game chat.... both are useless for you while you are in a game and trying to learn and climb. It is also disrespectful to the coach that the person paying attention to things that do not matter.... instead of, as mentioned by another person.... looking at the state of other lanes. He also is not mentally preparing himself to even do the E Q W. He is not looking at his wave, and looking for patterns with how the enemy laner is moving... or looking around the jungle for things like scrying blooms hit. The list goes on. What he was looking at was Neaces chat and then was getting mentally distracted because they were roasting him. Because that is where his focus seemed to lay at that point in time, and what was most important for him at the time.

  • @danny1ft1

    @danny1ft1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Wolfcub-tb2iy Exactly this dude, I honestly think that's why he thought Neace was roasting him because he was reading chat roasting him.

  • @PlantsForHire
    @PlantsForHire2 жыл бұрын

    As a yi player I was so lost when he kept saying to use w and e

  • @the_moonwatcher9196

    @the_moonwatcher9196

    2 жыл бұрын

    Lol as a Sett player I was astonished he couldn't press the only button I can.

  • @blizzzy474

    @blizzzy474

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@the_moonwatcher9196 lol this is gold

  • @drowzeehypno9154
    @drowzeehypno91542 жыл бұрын

    I do believe some people need the yelling type of approach (tough love coaching). However in this case I don't think it was the correct choice. Neace also had his ego problems, you saw how bad he wanted to be right in this scenario. I think you just logically need to explain to this client without raising your voice why you are upset with how he acted during this session. Tell him to take it seriously, close everything except the game on his computer, get rid of distractions and focus up. If he had the type of ego problem Neace was referring to he wouldn't even have tried to do anything he told him

  • @ich3730

    @ich3730

    2 жыл бұрын

    kinda funny for someone who posts their facebook stream into all-chat whenever someone flames him in game to tell others about "ego" xD

  • @yurilopes420

    @yurilopes420

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ich3730 wtf u on about

  • @SafetyKitten

    @SafetyKitten

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ich3730 thats not what ego is LOL

  • @LegionL-A

    @LegionL-A

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly, so far I'm at 20 minutes and the guy is taking it all like a champ, Neace so far has repeatedly yelled at him and otherwise been toxic and the guy is like "ok, you're right, I gotta do the combo right". Fucking 0 ego. I can understand that he eventually gets defensive if he spent a whole hour getting fucking yelled at. Like yeah, maybe the guy needs to focus more but that's not how you get results as a coach.

  • @SafetyKitten

    @SafetyKitten

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LegionL-A so the right thing to do as a coach is to accept that he wont listen to your fucking advice and just suck that up ? neace is a coach who is not there to care about your feelings, hes there to MAKE. YOU. BETTER. the guy was repeatedly told what to do and just said "yeh bro! haha! frrr!!!" and barely put it into action at all. + for WHAT reason is he buying coaching and then watching neaces livestream and talking to chat aswell? did he pay for a stream segment or coaching?

  • @kpmatch7
    @kpmatch72 жыл бұрын

    I felt like the dude was trying and was really humble when taking criticism - to me it seemed like Neace formed an opinion early on and just gave up any patience for him lol

  • @kpmatch7

    @kpmatch7

    2 жыл бұрын

    However I do get that it’s a pretty goofy to be watching stream and caring about chat’s opinions while he’s paying all that money for coaching.

  • @LegionL-A

    @LegionL-A

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah, guy should be maybe a bit more focused, but Neace was being an asshole from start to finish. Like, yeah, some people need a few more repetitions before they get something down, that doesn't mean they have ego problems. The ego on Neace though... Like this guy doesn't even want to consider for a SECOND that maybe his coaching approach isn't ideal. He has ZERO doubts that "he's the one that's got it all right and ALL of his clients are trash". He can't POSSIBLY be the one that's a shitty coach if his clients aren't getting great value out of their coaching, right? Essentially Neace is deflecting 100% of the responsibility on "everyone else". No ego Neace, amirite?

  • @kinoo4496

    @kinoo4496

    Жыл бұрын

    @@LegionL-A fr his argument for roasting this guy was full of "it looks like" "seems like" "your tone suggest", the guy always tried to follow instructions, he never argued, never was disrespectful. this is a coaching session paid by a client, not fucking middle school.

  • @shanebryant6478

    @shanebryant6478

    11 ай бұрын

    @@kinoo4496 the guy maybe wanted to look cool for stream but this was far being a huge ego dude just thought it was cool he was on a big streamers stream

  • @monhbatonon6333

    @monhbatonon6333

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@kinoo4496i think he just wanted a stir up some "content". Shame he doesnt know this will lose him much more

  • @johnnyboy2247
    @johnnyboy22472 жыл бұрын

    Wukong is also really good into Darius, making it even more embarrassing

  • @cx3622

    @cx3622

    2 жыл бұрын

    true

  • @stropex2165

    @stropex2165

    2 жыл бұрын

    i mean darius shouldn't loose any meele matchup he never really responded to the trades as neace said

  • @johnnyboy2247

    @johnnyboy2247

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stropex2165 there are definitely exceptions to this, such as Wukong, Jax, Fiora, Yorick…

  • @omarireid1814
    @omarireid18142 жыл бұрын

    Aye man I hope this guy is ok, I think he was a tad ego but didn't deserve all this, he ain't that bad of a person and tried make light of the situation

  • @bruhkeys465

    @bruhkeys465

    Жыл бұрын

    Facts

  • @yorionenthusiast170

    @yorionenthusiast170

    Жыл бұрын

    Neace has insane ego.

  • @hdgdhnxbdx1619

    @hdgdhnxbdx1619

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah bro. I can't belive he charged the guy that much just to shit talk him and make him look bad on live . Fuck that guy, and all the meat riders 💀

  • @GoonEr-hb6cm

    @GoonEr-hb6cm

    Жыл бұрын

    Yeah man idk about all of that. He played poorly and didn't listen to Neace, while transparently being too distracted with what was going on in the stream to give his attention to the game and to his coach. I think it's fair to be irritated with someone for wasting your time, especially when it's been made clear that the time they're spending together is explicitly set aside for this guy to improve. From an outside perspective, it looks like he dropped $250+ just for a little bit of time on stream. He is literally being coached by one of the best players/coaches in the world and still finds the gall to argue about fundamentals on a champion he has spent literally hundreds of hours playing. Like it or not he probably needed to hear the shit Neace was saying, but he also didn't seem to be interested in internalizing any of it because he's so self assured. He tried making light of the situation because he was backed into a corner - he tried making a bunch of weak excuses for his behavior and got called out for it on repeat. idk man.

  • @MrSeaBananna

    @MrSeaBananna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@GoonEr-hb6cm it’s not that deep

  • @takezoedits
    @takezoedits2 жыл бұрын

    I just uninstalled League and wanted to THANK you NEACE. I was a hardstuck Gold player for 3 seasons and after watching your content I literally reached Plat 3 and now I quit because I realised it takes a lot of f***ing time and grind to reach Diamond that I honestly don't have. Maybe next season I'll aim for it. Thanks again coach! I appreciate for putting it out for free.

  • @YuYuYuna_

    @YuYuYuna_

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I'm in the same boat as you. Got to Plat 3 this season, used to be hardstuck in Gold. I tried for a bit to push for Diamond but it just takes far more effort and time than I'm currently willing/able to do.

  • @chabot4006

    @chabot4006

    2 жыл бұрын

    never reinstall. its a mistake. the only winning move is to not play unless you make money from it

  • @takezoedits

    @takezoedits

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chabot4006 funnily enough I’m making “something” out of it 😂

  • @notmyday7695

    @notmyday7695

    Жыл бұрын

    @@takezoedits keeping your virginity isnt geting something out of it.

  • @tupacshakur5868

    @tupacshakur5868

    Жыл бұрын

    Like Diamond is the goal that redeems you from all your mortal sins..... I reached Diamond 5 years ago by playing like 30 games per Season and just watching gameplay of chinese 1500lp+ people who play my champs. But like a normal human I realized at some point that rank is totally irrelevant and now im Gold 1, dont give a fuck about anything game related and im happy af. Dont aim for Diamond, aim, to imrpove or aim to have fun.

  • @AwakenedStars
    @AwakenedStars2 жыл бұрын

    Neace: You were too busy looking at the chat Client: “ no I was vaping and eating cashews…” in plat?

  • @noodleramen2217

    @noodleramen2217

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah, what's wrong with that..?

  • @PlantsForHire

    @PlantsForHire

    2 жыл бұрын

    That one was a head scratcher cuz the whole point neace was trying to make was: you’re not focused and his response was: that’s not true I’m vaping and eating snacks

  • @AwakenedStars

    @AwakenedStars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Then he has the nerve to say he isn’t trolling… bruh… neace needed a lot of patience for this guy.

  • @TURK69KURD

    @TURK69KURD

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@noodleramen2217 plat is where people try hard to actually climb. Its not like gold or silver. Its a competitive game dude you need to be all there every second in the game. Sometimes its okay to go for a quick slurp but thats about it.

  • @yushkovyaroslav

    @yushkovyaroslav

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just funny how you said in "plat" like its something special. lol people do that in challenger

  • @AAbattery444
    @AAbattery4442 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna come back for a 2nd coaching when I finally hit d4. But man, I hope I don't develop an ego issue when I get to plat. Almost there and the journey is fucking rough man. But I would've never left silver if it wasn't for neace and now. I'm hovering between gold 1-2 consistently. Oof.

  • @clovermite

    @clovermite

    2 жыл бұрын

    Did you get featured on any of the videos, or did you do a private coaching?

  • @Mir0skies

    @Mir0skies

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you dont have an ego problem in g1 you wont have an ego in plat. Most of the ego comes from just thinking you know more than you really do.

  • @MiloThatch420

    @MiloThatch420

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Mir0skies like Neace?

  • @chris052692

    @chris052692

    2 жыл бұрын

    You think Plat ego is bad??? Come into mid/high diamond and see how they are. Literally cannot tell the difference between these idiots and Plat or Gold other than the shown ranked border.

  • @user-ur5fz5ol8n

    @user-ur5fz5ol8n

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MiloThatch420 looks like you lurk in the comments on all of his videos trying to point out things he gets wrong from time to time but I doubt you’ve ever been as high elo as NEACE has so shows what you know buddy

  • @RonaldinhoPopper
    @RonaldinhoPopper2 жыл бұрын

    I privately tutor students and there's no worse feeling when you can tell the student didn't change anything about their perspective by the end of the session.

  • @NEACE

    @NEACE

    2 жыл бұрын

    exactly. not my proudest session./

  • @dmm119
    @dmm1192 жыл бұрын

    Neace your cat is HUGE lol making sure everyone gets fed 😆

  • @PlantsForHire

    @PlantsForHire

    2 жыл бұрын

    This comment deserves all the likes 😂

  • @feralwispasmr7145

    @feralwispasmr7145

    2 жыл бұрын

    thats a chonky kitty

  • @proudpatriot3491
    @proudpatriot34912 жыл бұрын

    When he asked the guy wtf is wrong with you I realized that’s what he would ask me over and over

  • @matthewjohnson2488
    @matthewjohnson24882 жыл бұрын

    Never hit diamond, but climbed to plat numerous times. Ego gets bigger the higher the rank. I know I got a little bit of an ego myself, but this is ridiculous.

  • @chez-bubulle

    @chez-bubulle

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah and he can only play 1 champ in 1 role too. Having an ego when he is intermediately-skilled at 1 single thing in the game is a bit much.

  • @stefansimicic

    @stefansimicic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chez-bubulle That's just the easiest way to climb, most boring 1, but the quickest, since you just learn match ups for that certain champ. Who's gonna learn 159 champs and be equally good at high elo level, it would take 10 years to do that, smaller the champ pool the quicker is climb.

  • @chez-bubulle

    @chez-bubulle

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stefansimicic yes exactly. Not much to be proud of and ego about. Probably knows absolutely nothing about jungling, jungle tracking, ward placements, arc positioning, etc. To get higher elo you need to know the basics of every role even if you don't play them. For example as a jungler, i need to know basically every possible matchup so i know which lane will probably be ahead, behind, or going even. If you just learn to clear your camps with 1 champ and nothing else, no way you get past gold

  • @stefansimicic

    @stefansimicic

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chez-bubulle I would agree and disagree with you there, based on your experience it might be like that, but tbh match up doesn't always end up as predicted, especially in lower elo, watching minimap and camera (when you can) on lanes is usually enough to show you what you should gank and what is just wasting time. It is true that you need to have more knowledge as jungler than any other role. Just speaking from my own experience as I peaked plat 1 multiple seasons, but they just decided to delete my otp (old Aatrox). This guy plays only wu, I just wonder what he do when he gets autofilled or get his 2nd role (mid) does he play wu or pray that his team gives him top. Also he either needs to learn 1 more champ as backup or just needs to doge. He will hardly win any game when he gets his wu banned.

  • @gaylordtv561

    @gaylordtv561

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@chez-bubulle and even at that champ he suvks i could first time wukong and wiukd play 10 times less clunky

  • @KibaHikari
    @KibaHikari2 жыл бұрын

    I'll be honest, I've never seen a client watch the stream he's in while playing to make commentary on the comments on the stream? How do you focus on your ranked game AND coaching while watching the stream you're in? Huh? He's responding the lagging chat instead... I saw a comment once for clients Google how to be coachable, and I did that when I had my coaching session. Perhaps this fellow should look up some of that advice as well.

  • @jasserbelkhiria3894

    @jasserbelkhiria3894

    2 жыл бұрын

    thats a very good point

  • @Dreamswept55

    @Dreamswept55

    2 жыл бұрын

    yeah it was pretty pathetic knowing that he's more concerned what internet strangers thought of him not using W than he was about the coaching he paid for.

  • @nathanbradley4092
    @nathanbradley40922 жыл бұрын

    Being honest, to grow you must stay humble and if I was getting coaching from Neace I'd be humble cos I couldn't work out how to climb by myself.

  • @capnbarky2682

    @capnbarky2682

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's a mix, you need to have a passion/ego to know that you can be the best in any situation while also being able to acknowledge when you aren't living up to that. This is true of any competition and the truly best will be able to balance both.

  • @capnbarky2682

    @capnbarky2682

    2 жыл бұрын

    @NorseViking84 passion and ego are two sides of the same coin. Look at competitors like Michael Jordan, Cristiano Ronaldo, Lebron James. Egos that were properly fostered to make their vision of themselves as the best a reality.

  • @sergiogarcia4266

    @sergiogarcia4266

    2 жыл бұрын

    @NorseViking84 facts lmao I mean look at Lebron one thing a lot of people hold against him is that he self proclaimed himself to be the GOAT and that just rubbed the people the wrong way cause it’s egotistical with Jordan he had an ego but not so much of an ego to impact him from not getting better

  • @Aratrok1

    @Aratrok1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @NorseViking84 100% in physical sports, if you don't fully believe in yourself in the cage or on a platform when lifting you won't get far by just being humble alone.

  • @Aratrok1

    @Aratrok1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @NorseViking84 well there's a difference between thinking you're a borderline demigod and thinking you're just good shit. The latter is imo just not being delusional with your own self worth and having some healthy confidence. Rhonda was straight up delusional to the point she thought she even beats up all the men. Like Mike Tyson is super cocky, but if he said he'd beat a bear in a fist fight that's taking it too far lmao.

  • @zortingen3169
    @zortingen31692 жыл бұрын

    "idk why you're roasting me, you're supposed to be a coach." Man's never seen an irl coach in his life XD

  • @TheSquirrelbeast

    @TheSquirrelbeast

    2 жыл бұрын

    Irl coaches don't roast you for yt content and a thumbnail.

  • @dragonic22

    @dragonic22

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TheSquirrelbeast But they DO roast you

  • @kozmiic

    @kozmiic

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@TheSquirrelbeastspoken like someone who's never even played a sport coaches will absolutely roast you in front of your team if your fucking up ,don't speak on sht you clearly don't know anything about

  • @iSparkton
    @iSparkton2 жыл бұрын

    Why do you flame him so hard

  • @jurosjosip

    @jurosjosip

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bc he is bad... He is arguing with a challenger player. There's a reason he is plat and neace is challenger but yeah neace is wrong. This coaching is perfect. If you don't understand it you are worse than this plat player

  • @excelior1
    @excelior1 Жыл бұрын

    Video title should be "Neace ego" xD

  • @cheyennealbers4089
    @cheyennealbers40892 жыл бұрын

    Honestly I feel like his anger and “roasting” is 100% warranted. Everybody is trying to make excuses for the client but the brass tax of it is, the guy has put 3 fucking seasons and probably thousands of games into wukong. There should be very little Neace should be able to tell him about that champ that the guy doesn’t already know. He does not know that champion as flawlessly and thoroughly as he wants everyone to believe. If he did, asking for a simple and staple combo wouldn’t have been like pulling teeth. It should have been completely natural to the guy and it wasn’t. Also, getting offended that Neace is yelling at you after booking a coaching session with Neace makes you a dumbass. He isn’t a popular and respected league of legends coach because of his review videos of modern art 🤦‍♀️

  • @Ok-nz7gy

    @Ok-nz7gy

    2 жыл бұрын

    he is like 1.1-1.4mil i think.

  • @viperdragon35lol6

    @viperdragon35lol6

    2 жыл бұрын

    facts how do you play a champ that much and not know all their combos and tips and tricks...there is a video on youtube called tips and tracks, build guides, how to carry with * insert champ name here * for every champ in league

  • @TheXxomasteroxx

    @TheXxomasteroxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    the last point is stupid neace doesnt scream at girls that come on in the same way for example. Some people need a different approach and the "military seargent with guys and compassionate with women" isnt cutting it

  • @walkelftexasranger

    @walkelftexasranger

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheXxomasteroxx He rarely coaches women + most of them actually listens to what he's saying ,so he doesn't have to yell.

  • @TheXxomasteroxx

    @TheXxomasteroxx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@walkelftexasranger thats not really true i saw him coach women who make the same mistake over and over again where he doesnt immediately start yelling and shit

  • @Feyolen
    @Feyolen2 жыл бұрын

    its actually kinda nuts that with all the vids neace puts out, you could probably reach diamond without paying for his coaching. Love the vids and keep up the good work

  • @yoshikuu

    @yoshikuu

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree! this guy has done wonders to my improvement & I didn’t even have to pay him 😭

  • @YuYuYuna_

    @YuYuYuna_

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's actually true. I've been watching Neace's videos for almost 2 years now and I've gone from Gold 4/3 to now Plat 3. His videos are tremendous help and I'm glad that he has enough reach/popularity to where he can provide people VODs like this who can't afford it.

  • @ich3730

    @ich3730

    2 жыл бұрын

    thats why its crazy to me that there are freaks who actually pay 200+ just to get something they could get for free xD

  • @minichocomochi
    @minichocomochi2 жыл бұрын

    I actually don't think he is egoistic. Neace is a bit too harsh on this client (actually most of his clients), it's hard to watch sometimes. With that being said, I'm still binge-watching his videos because for real, he is a good coach, he gives out so much useful tips and info, I've learned so much from his videos compared to other league youtubers but I really just wish he could be more calm and chill in the way he delivers stuff.

  • @hunnerricketts8676

    @hunnerricketts8676

    Жыл бұрын

    I disagree, drill sergeant type delivery works in certain situations. I think for what he wants them to do his delivery is always on the mark. Does it sound harsh? Yeah but I bet you won’t forget whatever he said. Think of like Gordon Ramsey, he yells, screams and rebukes very harshly, it produces great results and pops the ones that were never gonna make it in the first place. Neace is like the Ramsey of League lol

  • @joshgriffin1575

    @joshgriffin1575

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hunnerricketts8676 Drill sergeants are trying to break you down to build you back up stronger. That doesn't work in a single coaching session. As soon as you start making someone defensive any chance of them listening to what you're saying goes out the window. Also Ramsey is a lot more chill on the non US show, it's an act for TV lol.

  • @vivianvicious

    @vivianvicious

    11 ай бұрын

    @@joshgriffin1575 that depends on the person. lots of useful skilled people prefer harsh teachers because it does push them farther than a lax one.

  • @JM-tj5qm

    @JM-tj5qm

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hunnerricketts8676 That's not drill sergeant type delivery that's just being an idiot.

  • @apork32467

    @apork32467

    5 ай бұрын

    Well thats because food can actually kill you if not properly prepared ​@@hunnerricketts8676

  • @BuddahBandit
    @BuddahBandit Жыл бұрын

    I didn’t see the ego bro was just friendly 😭

  • @TekZ3r0

    @TekZ3r0

    3 ай бұрын

    LOL community doesn't understand vocal socialization. They dick ride big creators to the point of delusion

  • @MattBellMoves
    @MattBellMoves2 жыл бұрын

    I’d say I feel bad for the guy, he seems like he’s overconfident but actually sounds super nervous and sad. Bet he cried after this roasting, that was way over the top imo.

  • @austindreyer108
    @austindreyer1082 жыл бұрын

    Ngl Neace was kinda being a piece of shit during this. If I was that kid who just paid for a coaching and struggled to learn and process everything on the fly and just getting roasted and being self conscious about everything I did, then I would probably ask for a refund and quit the game. I don’t think he came to “show off his wukong skills.” He literally said “I have no idea how this match up goes” against shaco and I think it’s a really unreasonable thing to assume that a player is going to be able to comprehend and execute every single task you give him without fail. It’s okay to be respectful every now and again, Neace. No need to be like the rest of the league community.

  • @zacharris8462
    @zacharris8462 Жыл бұрын

    I appreciate this video, because I feel I have a similar mindset at times and I feel I've learned a lot from this dudes attitude.

  • @jamesclements3463
    @jamesclements3463 Жыл бұрын

    neace was the one with plat ego …

  • @bryancasey1627
    @bryancasey16272 жыл бұрын

    1/12 morde support 2:45 💀

  • @billyjoe8185

    @billyjoe8185

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bro is trolling

  • @heyho304
    @heyho304 Жыл бұрын

    Neace is the one with the Huge ego here! He already had a predetermined idea of this kid going in ("Platinum players have huge egos"). I honestly think Neace was just so jealous that this kid was platinum almost diamond so easily, so quickly "3 seasons". Its a game Neace has spent his entire life on, and he couldn't stand the fact someone else got to the position it took him so long to achieve. I cant believe Neace treated the kid like that at the end, the dude was being sincere about wanting to get better and learn, he actually sounded like he was going to cry. I'm sad man feels really bad. I love when Neace rips people its the best content he's got, I fucking LOVE it. But this was un called for the kid was obviously trying, while getting fucked on, what's he supposed to do not try to make it fun and laugh it off after he makes a bad play. What's the alternative smashing his PC?. Neace should be mad at Riot for the kid being ranked so high. Not the kid. Feels bad man. Feels real bad. I don't want you to stop berating people Neace its your best content, but know when to hold em and know when to fold em man. This was an obvious fold situation. :(

  • @ogfit5448
    @ogfit54482 жыл бұрын

    This has been my ego in gold 4 to gold 1. I'm finally accepting I don't know it all and improving myself before looking at others.

  • @drpurple1321
    @drpurple13212 жыл бұрын

    43:13 swear he was about to say I'm the most humble person but caught himself cause he realized that proved Neace's point

  • @Theorchero

    @Theorchero

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hahaha my exact thoughts

  • @thiagooliveira7935

    @thiagooliveira7935

    4 ай бұрын

    Nah, yall just wrong, Neace is the one with an ego.

  • @Barde_Jaune
    @Barde_Jaune2 жыл бұрын

    The video does not do Neace justice as it doesn't portray the vibe this student was giving off completely accurately. While watching live, the ego felt more present, a continuous thing happening compared to Neace being a bit nit picky like you'd think watching this video.

  • @aletsama
    @aletsama2 жыл бұрын

    I've never played Wukong but the EQW combo stays with me forever.

  • @solarpaneI
    @solarpaneI2 жыл бұрын

    you coached a vod of mine back in the day and you and ur chat FLAMED THE SHITTTT out of me lmaooo. i was playing xin zhao and it was just so cringe, but i laughed at it and took what u said and got to plat 4 from bronze 5 :)

  • @xska2767

    @xska2767

    Жыл бұрын

    Is there a video?

  • @solarpaneI

    @solarpaneI

    Жыл бұрын

    @@xska2767 yep. called "jungling from square one" or smthng like that. the thumbnail is xin zhao. im sure youll find it

  • @DweebLord
    @DweebLord Жыл бұрын

    Neace is pretty well known for NEVER roasting ego players. He’s never done it before. This is for sure the first time.

  • @wz9526

    @wz9526

    10 ай бұрын

    this is sarcasm lol cuz 90% of his videos he tells ppl they have ego.

  • @SeanyRay08
    @SeanyRay082 жыл бұрын

    You just hard tilted your client & refused to let it go. This just made him vulnerable & nervous in the shaco match up, one he clearly knew little about. Now yes he failed to follow commands which at his level he should understand which is why I think the best course would have been to mentally reset him. Instead, all you did was make him spiral get embarrassed, flustered & protective of ego in my objective opinion.

  • @vDeadbolt

    @vDeadbolt

    2 жыл бұрын

    The guy had an ego. He just didn't know it. Neace literally asked him if he could do a basic bread and butter combo and he insisted he did, yet failed to do so consistently.

  • @LegionL-A

    @LegionL-A

    Жыл бұрын

    @@vDeadbolt I'm sorry, guy does not "have an ego". He agreed with EVERYTHING Neace said to him throughout the whole video and when he said "yah I can do the combo" and Neace said "then prove it to me" he was like "ok, you're right, gotta prove it". Neace was as asshole from start to finish and projected onto his student that he had an ego, then went on to cherry pick every single little detail to prove his point. When the guy finally snaps at the end of the video being told that he somehow has this huge ego problems when he's been doing his best to follow instructions (like ok, maybe he shouldn't be eating and vaping, granted), Neace is like "see, told you" (and the guy actually responds SUPER WELL to Neace's constant flaming, better than 90% of you would). Neace needs to get his head out of his ass. There's a thing called the Pygmalion/Golem effect, if you go around projecting all that shit on your students that's what your gonna find. Be better Neace.

  • @wotizlove

    @wotizlove

    Жыл бұрын

    Yea I felt the same kinda. Think neace himself got tilted with the client rather early. I'm a trainer myself and I love coaching people. Up until 2/3rds of the video neace showed very little empathic trainer skills tbh. I do understand neace tho, the clients demeanor and voice occasionally felt almost disrespectful sometimes. Idk that was a weird session tbh. Confused client with a not so professional neace

  • @sp_cemo9975
    @sp_cemo99752 жыл бұрын

    Imagine a world where everybody could call their customers out like that. Arguments were on point

  • @JM-tj5qm

    @JM-tj5qm

    11 ай бұрын

    No? He was rude for no reason.

  • @gregorio.de.moraes
    @gregorio.de.moraes9 ай бұрын

    Neace was having an ego problem that session T_T

  • @alexandrealdeias4983
    @alexandrealdeias49832 жыл бұрын

    I do think he had a point, tho he came here to chill, be friends with neace and having a great time, not to climb, i dont think its ego, neace was wrong indeed about it, and about many things about his personality, Neace shouldve said : "if ure here its not to chill and play draft its to learn and focus on getting to your goal" .

  • @vDeadbolt

    @vDeadbolt

    2 жыл бұрын

    He paid around 250 dollars for a top level player to coach him. If all he wanted was to chill and be friends with Neace, he should have thrown that money in a pit of fire instead. Neace wants the guy to get better, it's just impossible for him to do so if he isn't trying at all

  • @marcusmeins1839

    @marcusmeins1839

    2 жыл бұрын

    You wanna chill? Go outside and do whatever you want or play a MMO . When you play a game to rank up in a competitive game , you cant just chill you have to concentrate and think to play .

  • @alexandredias9329

    @alexandredias9329

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marcusmeins1839 Did u read my comment at all? Im not saying hes right, im saying he had a point, that its not ego, he came here to chill and play, thats okay for him when he plays all alone, but when u book a coach u need to concentrate in order to elevate ur game, he was wrong about come here to chill with neace, thats not what this is about.

  • @kaedond

    @kaedond

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@vDeadbolt How is Neace the one to judge him when he's getting paid? If the guy doesn't take it seriously, then it is what it is and Neace is $250 richer for doing nothing.

  • @vDeadbolt

    @vDeadbolt

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kaedond because Neace cares about his clients improving. He doesn't want that 250 to go to waste. It's funny seeing that argument, only for the same people to get mad at companies treating their employees like trash and ripping off customers.

  • @shaneoblack1672
    @shaneoblack16722 жыл бұрын

    I remember in your how to climb videos when you said the plat ego was what prevented them from climbing, I see what you mean now. Not to shit on the guy because I don't think he's terrible, plat for most players won't ever be reachable, but to get out of plat you still have to realize you have a LONG way to go before you reach diamond+.

  • @TheTuta69
    @TheTuta692 жыл бұрын

    The intro is like some mediocre murder mystery and I love it

  • @anoptainium
    @anoptainium Жыл бұрын

    Pure guy got mostly roasted instead of coached . Gotta agree

  • @user-jb6wg6eg4o
    @user-jb6wg6eg4o2 жыл бұрын

    250 bucks to read chat, eat, and int with Neace.

  • @alaamaoula2404

    @alaamaoula2404

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @chade3400
    @chade34002 жыл бұрын

    You can watch someone do the same thing you tell them not do without losing your mind

  • @Mirades96
    @Mirades966 ай бұрын

    ngl i feel sorry for him, just because he might be bad in learning doesn't mean he doesn't want to.

  • @z-a3594
    @z-a35942 жыл бұрын

    Also don’t get a defensive attitude with the coach. He knew how Neace is in his videos. Take it as it is delivered, reflect on it, learn what you can, if it didn’t work for you find a different coach.

  • @patticakie5861

    @patticakie5861

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeaaaaahhhhhh I’m a coach, I rip my athletes a new one when they sass me. It’s a respect thing, it’s important as a coach to have a boundary of how your athletes are allowed to talk to you. You’re a huge influence on their confidence, and allowing them to talk back just isn’t an option when you’re trying to do that.

  • @Pr0x1m1f1c4710n

    @Pr0x1m1f1c4710n

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@patticakie5861 You must also know then, though (don't know if it applies here, because I don't know the guy) that some people just sound like a dick, even though they aren't. I got the feeling that the guy genuinely wanted to learn, but interacted poorly, due to low compatibility between him and neace. Probably the clients problem, since neace coaches many, and rarely clashes like this. If anything I felt like this client had quite a low ego and was insecure, but on the surface pretend like he is not, because of the way he speaks. He failed to listen properly and do commands, because he was too nervous, but hey that's just my read. I could be wrong.

  • @gnebs2392

    @gnebs2392

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Pr0x1m1f1c4710n I think you're absolutely spot on. There was a serious personality conflict here. For the most part I think Neace was off with his assessment. I believe the client's insecurity was a big part of why he was checking chat. The client's attempts to brush off criticism didn't seem to sit well with Neace. Neace seems to vibe best with those who are slightly subordinate.

  • @patticakie5861

    @patticakie5861

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Pr0x1m1f1c4710n Oh no for sure, but that's more of a problem for a long term coach or other person to solve. For quick coaching like this, it's improtant to maintain boundaries. If one of my girls talked to me like this, I would just stop coaching her that day and tell her she can ask when she is ready to receive feedback with respect. I've done that a couple times and it does nothing but build their respect for you as their coach and that, in turn, gives them more confidence in their sport. It's weird, but your coach can't be someone you run over. Then it doesn't feel like they can tell you how to fix whatever problem you're having. tldr; this guy does have some underlying stuff, but establishing respect is more important.

  • @dennismakaveli448

    @dennismakaveli448

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Pr0x1m1f1c4710n Perfectly phrased! Exactly what I was thinking. Your EQ is out of the roof my friend.

  • @Greenmushroom82
    @Greenmushroom822 жыл бұрын

    feel like Neace went a bit ham on this one and generalised the client based on his past experiences with plat players so he had a list of criteria for a plat player, client filled the criteria and roasted him just cause he wasn't performing as expected of a plat player.

  • @Prowler9000

    @Prowler9000

    2 жыл бұрын

    Neace has a lot of really hard-set expectations of people. You can see it in this one, his first few games on chill neace season 2 where he's incredulous that some people in bronze can beat him during a laning phase (they're there cus they don't understand how to use their lead, not because they don't know how to play their champion) It can be seen in his rant about ranged top laners when he faced Senna top. He rants against "plat players with egos" etc etc. He's a crotchety old grandpa in a lot of ways.

  • @Prowler9000

    @Prowler9000

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Sorest2 He was given no explanation at any point about why he should be doing things, and while his position in plat indicates that he has a relatively good grasp on at least some concepts in the game, Neace held back from ever explaining why he should be using his w in a particular way. He has gotten to that level of play without mastering his champion. You know when neace gets coached and constantly learns new things about champs, even on ones like Tristana? Every other person explains how and why they do a particular thing. Neace, in the middle of this dude's game, instead tells this dude to combo in a way which is foreign to him, asking him to rewrite 100+ games of muscle memory in the course of a half hour, and *because* this guy is plat, is a dick about it from the start. Neace has admitted, in videos, that he is way nicer to people in low elo. It is an issue with the assumptions that neace makes about plat players that prevents him from treating them as though they are teachable. He doesn't even *try* to teach them, he just rags on them for not understanding a concept he hasn't bothered to explain. When the player insists he *is* capable of doing the combo, it's because he desperately wants to convince neace that he is not a lost cause, and when he does accomplish what neace has been requesting, in the second game, against Darius, after Neace finally *did* explain the concept between games, the guy understood, and was able to more consistently follow the coaching *because it made sense.* You try to learn something new *in the middle of a plat-ranked game* while the person that is supposed to be teaching you is being hostile to you. Then Neace claims that he's never had this conversation with a client about ego before. Just scroll through the thumbnails of Neace's videos and you'll find several that mention Ego in the thumbnail. Neace gets these ideas of who a player is inside his head because of their rank and starts their coaching from a hostile position because he expects them to somehow know what they do not know. He does not try to teach them because "they're a high-enough elo, they should know better" ignoring the fact they paid him $250 because they are willing to admit they *do not* know better. There was nothing willfully ignorant done by this player, nor was he ever intentionally disrespectful of Neace' coaching points. He added them to what he was doing as he came to understand them. Neace went into this expecting a hostile situation and created one. It was a good move on the part of the student to not listen any further when Neace made it abundantly clear that he was not basing his final thoughts on the player, but on his opinion of who this player represents *in neace's mind.* Now, go watch neace rant about Ranged top laners when he faced Senna top in a chill neace video and you'll see exactly the sort of pre-conceived notions that I'm talking about this man having. I believe he may have been playing illaoi at the time. Ranting about an entire sub-category of the meta, claiming he doesn't feel bad about stomping low-elo players because "they're the sort of people who don't use turn signals, etc etc etc" just because someone is playing a champion or tactic that doesn't fit with what his idea of what the meta *should be* is ridiculous. If he saw a Korean player doing well with that same build, you can bet he'd be on here talking about how it's an underrated strat that everyone should play. He's doing an entire series of off-meta builds and doesn't see how hypocritical it is to trash someone who's just trying to play a game, while ranting about how they represent scum of the earth for having chosen a particular champion and rune. I have watched a LOT of neace content lately and this opinion is not based on just one video. My respect for neace as a "coach" has all but disappeared at this point, due to these pre-conceived notions which lead him to be hostile to people right from the start of their coachings with him, with no explanation given aside from the elo they happen to be in.

  • @LegionL-A

    @LegionL-A

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Prowler9000 thank you, 💯% hits the nail on the head

  • @YukiNakaii
    @YukiNakaii2 жыл бұрын

    Neace ego's in his coaching sessions, almost taking it personally when the client fucks up.

  • @morssusurri8316

    @morssusurri8316

    2 жыл бұрын

    You act like he is just some goon that doesn’t know what he is talking about. If you tell someone something 10 different times and they don’t do it. When you are given the clues, insight into why he’s supposed to be doing it. And the dude is in plat. What the fuck else is he supposed to do?

  • @louiss4672

    @louiss4672

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@morssusurri8316 learn social skills u can tell neace is using this doods voice to paint him as having an ego for content, replace each thing in this video with a different sounding person and a gold rank. please think for urself watch it and see if u can touch base with whats going on.

  • @morssusurri8316

    @morssusurri8316

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@louiss4672 Did you listen to the way he spoke to Neace after the game? Did you miss his entire point? I'm genuinely confused how you came to the conclusion that I do not have social skills and lack the ability to see that the title says Plat Ego. Additionally at the end you can tell from the disrespectful, arrogant attitude, and dismissive he was of basic concepts through the coaching. He goes into a camp with a coach that spends thousands of hours dedicating himself to teaching people how to get better at the game. Throughout the game he is making snarky remarks as if he already knew these things going in, and if he did... why pay for the coach? If you pay attention to Neace's videos where the student is responsive and doing as Neace says as he is walking you through the game, you will notice that the experience is a lot more educational, not angry, ragefilled, as this one was. Imagine having to explain to someone the same thing over and over again and them playing it off like they KNEW what they were doing but they just simply were not doing it. That does sound frustrating to me. Last: Don't you come in here with your inability to put together a full sentence, or spell very basic words properly. Literally, it is not hard. Have a good day and get the hell out of my notifications.

  • @shinzoki3803

    @shinzoki3803

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@morssusurri8316 Through out the game I think I heard one remark that could have been ego unless it was edited poorly the whole ego thing is literally reaching also I know this is a crazy concept changing the way you play when you have bad habits isn't something that happens instantly it takes time why the guy said you don't have social skills makes sense for the most part the tone of his voice is mistaken for ego

  • @kozmiic

    @kozmiic

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@shinzoki3803when I'm playing ranked in league I'm not fkn eating ,drinking and talking to someone or reading chat ,I'm focused I wait till the games done to do those things

  • @cumbotalot
    @cumbotalot2 жыл бұрын

    “why are you roasting me bro? it’s ego? dude bro? dude? but bro? I’m eating cashews bruh! you’re roasting more than these cashews breh!”

  • @nates5110
    @nates51102 жыл бұрын

    to be fair he subconsciously thought of showing off

  • @alex-eh8qp
    @alex-eh8qp2 жыл бұрын

    ehehe "plat ego" totally relatable

  • @FiddelCastro
    @FiddelCastro2 жыл бұрын

    Strong intro. Nice job Mr. Editor

  • @TeslaHo
    @TeslaHo2 жыл бұрын

    Not gonna lie, I had this mentality at one point when i first hit d4. the feels lol

  • @GuyInTheSkyTV
    @GuyInTheSkyTV2 жыл бұрын

    This session triggered my fight or flight

  • @chadstreamsam1700
    @chadstreamsam1700 Жыл бұрын

    Plat 2 player talking about Platinum ego 🤡🤡

  • @vPzWalkerx
    @vPzWalkerx2 жыл бұрын

    9:49 was questionable. Asking him to do something with leads to him losing both sums and then his death is fine, he followed instructions on that play to his best ability even though he questioned them and didn't agree with the call he still played it out and its a scenario you both learn from. The issue comes when there is no learning from those type of plays. You try and justify constant mistakes in your decisions/coaching then raise your volume at the smallest of errors or misunderstands. The fact that he knowingly suicides because you asked him to shows he was clearly dedicated to following instructions to his best ability. You blamed this death on the way he played it then proceed to blame the lane trades. Its never a mistake if you learn from it but justifying it doesn't learn and you're constantly making mistakes and blaming something else. In short you have just as much if not more ego than he does in this session.

  • @NEACE

    @NEACE

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice cherry picking. Imagine misplaying 10 trades in lane and then having to fight uphill the whole lane phase and being like "nah bro I think you have the ego here".

  • @vPzWalkerx

    @vPzWalkerx

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NEACE misplaying? hes being coached? what does it matter if he misplays, if anything its better if he does so you know what needs working on. You coaching him on winning this 1 game or on improving? A client is expected to misplay otherwise he wouldnt need coaching. A coach isn't expected to pass blame to hide the fact he made a mistake. Question, do you think staying for that dive was the correct play still?

  • @louiss4672

    @louiss4672

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@NEACE give it 4 more months before the viewers with low social skills catch on to what ur doing.

  • @MUDELA

    @MUDELA

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@louiss4672 unfortunately they wont. Look at Neace clothes, way of talking and acting... he intentionally aims his content for cocky teenagers who will cheer up a so called "ego check" on another teenager. Like ffs, is just League, no client needs to be yelled and misstreated. If they want to throw away their money, fine, so be it. If Neace wanted to coach people interested in learning, he would cut off the session and give back the money (an never upload it). But with real content he would not get the subscribers. I literally would be ashamed of myself if I was making money with this circus.

  • @louiss4672

    @louiss4672

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MUDELA can i get ur league username bro XD. ive been telling the same stuff in comments hes rude and im a retard and can see it.

  • @TruBluLew23
    @TruBluLew23 Жыл бұрын

    You’re definitely not wrong about the Diamond thing, Neace. I remember when I first hit Dimond, it felt like the best thing ever, literally like the end credits were about to roll like you said 😂 when I finally hit Masters, the feeling was the same but it felt as if the movie was only half over. Maybe I’ll hit Challenger someday and get the secret ending feeling, who knows

  • @kpmatch7
    @kpmatch72 жыл бұрын

    “I’m eating cashews, I’m vaping” 🤣

  • @TheMilchBroetchen
    @TheMilchBroetchen Жыл бұрын

    21:44 my favorite moment :D "Ayyee neace we got this baby"

  • @pierson110

    @pierson110

    Жыл бұрын

    Careful, neace may think you have an ego! Since hes not your favorite part

  • @Xipotec

    @Xipotec

    10 ай бұрын

    u sarcastic? he's just trying to act cool but its just cringe

  • @alex-eh8qp
    @alex-eh8qp2 жыл бұрын

    also neace, is it possible to learn league with ping spikes? is it worth it to use my main (aphelios) even though my lag is sometimes 130 ms on a good day to 5k on a horrible day? begging for help since 13 ls

  • @TeamAurorapk

    @TeamAurorapk

    2 жыл бұрын

    learn yes ,play my God no. bless your soul for dealing with that. I move alot and some places have horrible internet I just have to give up online gaming when im in bad internet living

  • @FartmanLOL

    @FartmanLOL

    2 жыл бұрын

    I’m pretty sure even tethered to the WiFi on your phone would give you better internet than that

  • @alex-eh8qp

    @alex-eh8qp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TeamAurorapk right haha I can't even tell if i'm good or not since i'm just praying I don't lag spike mid play! hehe I have a thing for challenges so I just can't give up but it's hard sometimes and i'm a newbie level 38 in a server with no new players... just hardstuck people (':

  • @kaffalkaff7392

    @kaffalkaff7392

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get an ethernet cable

  • @alex-eh8qp

    @alex-eh8qp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@FartmanLOL mn nope, the server i'm in isn't very near me and I cant go garena because i'm on a 2014 mac ^^; ah but thanks for the suggestion I can try it out

  • @zenhias
    @zenhias2 жыл бұрын

    The editor made some magic on that first scene💪🏽

  • @daveyreed
    @daveyreed2 жыл бұрын

    I have confrontation so much that the ending gave me anxiety.

  • @enviping
    @enviping Жыл бұрын

    Gotta agree with the client here but maybe its a league thing to talk to people like that who spend money

  • @devseoul
    @devseoul Жыл бұрын

    A good tip for spotting the real shaco After he got mythic, there is a golden/yellow border around it in the item slot(top left) when you attack him The clone has no border Hope it helps the reading person

  • @orlandonieves652
    @orlandonieves6522 жыл бұрын

    "I didn't learn shit today" Bro, even I learned from this coaching

  • @lycozur
    @lycozur2 жыл бұрын

    this was the equivalent of watching an ekko player not trigger his passive

  • @Souxz
    @Souxz2 жыл бұрын

    I think he was a bit shy and wanted to come across as a confident person thats why he was giggling. He's not an asshole I bet he is a nice person with insecurities and self-consciousness

  • @Souxz

    @Souxz

    2 жыл бұрын

    You also have to factor in how some people cant change suddenly when they have someone screaming in their ear or its more difficult for them

  • @alibis7097

    @alibis7097

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Souxz This is how I thought of the student as well. Maybe it takes a good month and 50 more games to capture some of the changes that were asked of them. Sometimes it takes people a while to get skills under the muscle memory. Even in plat.

  • @iliasarroyo

    @iliasarroyo

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Souxz sounds like a “you” problem. Why pay for a coach that is known to to be passionate/intolerable of stupid mistakes. I’d expect nothing less if I got coached from neace.

  • @Souxz

    @Souxz

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@iliasarroyo That is absolutely true. Perhaps this student expected and or wanted to be the "good student" thats why at first he ignored objecting to neace screaming at him

  • @danny1ft1
    @danny1ft12 жыл бұрын

    Watching this I think I'm a plat player if this guy can get plat. 🤣

  • @SemsemSalabim732

    @SemsemSalabim732

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna fire up wukong and give it a shot too lol

  • @IsEltyr

    @IsEltyr

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nice you missed the entire point

  • @geekerlmao

    @geekerlmao

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@IsEltyr Nice you missed the entire joke

  • @IsEltyr

    @IsEltyr

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@geekerlmao damn

  • @blair9281

    @blair9281

    2 жыл бұрын

    Plat is basically the point you reach when you have at least the bare minimum skill required to remotely play against other competitive players as well as getting large numbers of games on the board. Reaching plat for the first time is like graduating from school only to find that the real world is way tougher and you should have studied for your exams. Neace mentions it often to his clients that they need more games if they want to climb and that's basically the main prereq to getting plat. I don't care who you are if you play 5 ranked games a day and you're even remotely a teammate you'll be plat in no time.

  • @Kallyy
    @Kallyy2 жыл бұрын

    The guy getting coached talks 100% like Tarzan even the mannerisms

  • @parlangua89
    @parlangua89 Жыл бұрын

    Neace in this video taught the fundamentals of wukong to everybody. Thanks bro

  • @randEveScrub
    @randEveScrub2 жыл бұрын

    I think the pressure of being on camera is understated, NEACE did well in pointing out the lowest hanging fruit for the player's game improvement. Don't really see the guy as having a HUGE ego, more like attempting to cope with getting critiqued. Its interesting that NEACE is talking about a slight attitude adjustment but the issue is that around this elo it really does become about getting the details right so the gap in skill level is huge for those who don't adopt the learning mindset.

  • @iliasarroyo

    @iliasarroyo

    2 жыл бұрын

    Sheesh man asking for coaching, especially neace, I’d expect criticism. Ego comes in when you don’t take the criticism and run with it. ❄️

  • @randEveScrub

    @randEveScrub

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@iliasarroyo Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face. Dude came in ok, then got slightly flamed. Then slightly improved, and then decreased play level again. Focused on chat flame and put unnecessary information on his mental stack which further dropped his ability to play. This is almost identical to the argument for never having chat on in game, its even more useless information that might illicit an emotional play/response.

  • @LegionL-A

    @LegionL-A

    Жыл бұрын

    @@randEveScrub the thing is the guy literally agreed to EVERYTHING Neace was telling him, up until the part where Neace starts accusing him of being there to stroke his ego. This guy was showing 0 ego and Neace just rips into him. That's not being "closed to learning", guy fucking did his best (even if he could indeed be more disciplined/close the stream) and Neace decided he knows everything and that because this guy's having a tough time he has an ego problem and that's the truth and it couldn't possibly be anything else, and that Neace couldn't POSSIBLY have approached this the wrong way. Looks to me like Neace should be the one to check his ego.

  • @thomascael2104
    @thomascael21042 жыл бұрын

    What I learned from this client : He simply hit his ceiling.

  • @elijahvalencia3293
    @elijahvalencia32932 жыл бұрын

    "I almost never W at people but you want me to do that a lot" Facepalm

  • @M2JoyBoy
    @M2JoyBoy Жыл бұрын

    He is just joking around "woah bro so fun wehee" bruh I would be asking mad questions 🤣

  • @takezoedits
    @takezoedits2 жыл бұрын

    I recently climbed to Plat 3 from Gold and I couldn't agree more as a person who barely flames. I stopped losing games because of bad players but now I'm losing because of griefers/trollers. Like the ego gap between Gold and Plat is huuuuge. The moment I entered Plat everyone roasts you for every mistake you do or looking for something to blame and they give up or wanna ff once they go 0/3. At least in Gold they are tryharding but in Plat the challenge is mental.

  • @Gkario

    @Gkario

    2 жыл бұрын

    Unironically gold 1 players are better than plat 4 players on average because of this reason. I've had so much experience smurfing in that elo and 100% plat 4 players are the worst. It's worse than "D4 losers queue", just more carryable.

  • @hazeldaniels1679

    @hazeldaniels1679

    2 жыл бұрын

    Personally the people I met in low plat were really chill, and a lot of the games in that range were really fun because of it, I didn't start to see the huge ego until I was like plat 2, which is filled with people who were diamond in a previous season and have an ego, and a lot of smurfs from like D3 end up in high plat on their alt accounts and have an ego towards the other people there. Personally my peak is plat 1, I reached my promos into diamond and lost and I'm just trying to break that barrier now, but every time I've hit high enough plat to end up in games that were predominantly D4 I've started to dread the day I actually hit D4 since interacting with D4 players is actually my personal hell, the worst mental and worst ego I've ever seen in my life

  • @Generic-Username

    @Generic-Username

    2 жыл бұрын

    "barely flames" holy shit the denial. why flame at all? turn off chat and fuck em in post-game.

  • @YuYuYuna_

    @YuYuYuna_

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ehhh In my experience it's the same in Plat. Gold players have massive egos and troll/grief a TON, all they need is the slightest push to do it and no I'm not talking about chatting/toxic pinging them. Plat is the same case except people are a little less willing to do it because "some" of them have goals of diamond still. The issue in Plat is you have a mixed bag of people who still have the goal of diamond and are serious about working towards it and then you have the hardstucks who got Plat and realized that they would have to try even HARDER to reach diamond and gave up yet they still play so naturally they lean on excuses to explain their inability to climb.

  • @taylortodd8842
    @taylortodd88422 жыл бұрын

    Neace was wrong in his interpretation of the guys ego, he was just aloof.

  • @Ledz3p
    @Ledz3p2 жыл бұрын

    Question for wukong players.. with the w change to go over walls now does new wu w go over veigar cage or are you still stopped by it?

  • @nichitacruceanu9540

    @nichitacruceanu9540

    2 жыл бұрын

    Nope its a dash not a blink

  • @mrdense4607
    @mrdense46072 жыл бұрын

    anyone know the music he's playing during the session?

  • @KailiHayashi
    @KailiHayashi2 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know silco coached league

  • @AcesPrune
    @AcesPrune2 жыл бұрын

    11:52 But if that was the fake, how does he have another fake like 5 seconds later after going invis?

  • @AicisCraft

    @AicisCraft

    2 жыл бұрын

    Cause of the range of the clone, he went far enough for the clone to tp to him, and then re-engage while the clone was walking away for another tp

  • @kaidothedragon2821

    @kaidothedragon2821

    2 жыл бұрын

    can´t shaco use q with his clone or am I stupid?

  • @AcesPrune

    @AcesPrune

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@AicisCraft Holt shit that's clever, Neace was way too harsh then, it looked just like the first one that they thought was fake was actually him and then went invisible. I would have assumed the ULT was gone as well.

  • @Jojoroe

    @Jojoroe

    2 жыл бұрын

    What do you mean there's an animation when it's an invis and none when there isn't

  • @scrung
    @scrung11 ай бұрын

    this guy wants to be league of legends gordon ramsay so bad

  • @TeaLobster

    @TeaLobster

    11 ай бұрын

    ikr what a loser

  • @marvinlang3777
    @marvinlang37772 жыл бұрын

    hey neace u got a playlist somewhere?

  • @Haibrayn42
    @Haibrayn422 жыл бұрын

    In my opinion I don't think he was trying to be egotistical but he's probably not a good leaner and was trying to have fun with the coaching session (which to me is a waste of money if you're not focused 100%). In my opinion his problem wasn't his ego but his difficulty to learn and fix bad habits, he didn't seem to understand the concept of using W to become invisible and confuse the enemy while you gap close or reposition

  • @musablake2045

    @musablake2045

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @lYakuzal
    @lYakuzal2 жыл бұрын

    Almost everyone can see ego behavior. It's quite sad these type of people don't. No matter how many people will tell them that they have a ego they will just deflect it. It's the reason why these people get hardstuck in the first place.

  • @coreymoxon6428

    @coreymoxon6428

    2 жыл бұрын

    This dude didn't have an ego but. He wasnt a perfect angel, but he was far from the toxic ego lol is plagued with. Neace went so over the top with him on principle, and shit man, i think even i would have started trying to defend myself after copping it that hard. He needed to be told, where he's going wrong, not absolutely spit roasted and then insinuated as something that i didn't think it he was. Even the client took a step back like wow where is this coming from. This did not make Neace look like a desirable coach at all.

  • @azmalguthek4502

    @azmalguthek4502

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@coreymoxon6428 cap

  • @Azzzoth

    @Azzzoth

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@coreymoxon6428 amen its hard to see Neace b so self confident in this too

  • @louiss4672

    @louiss4672

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@coreymoxon6428 neace tricked the audience into thinking having an ego is sounding positive and calm, look at a dictionary.

  • @coreymoxon6428

    @coreymoxon6428

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@louiss4672 what

  • @ReplayCovers
    @ReplayCovers10 ай бұрын

    I don't think the client was trying to show off here, he is mechanically challenged but he never to impose his ideas and was always open to learn and often asked questions about why to do what he needs to do, also every mistake he did always tried to explain his side to put a light on to why he failed. When someone is harsh on you your natural first response is to defend yourself and Neace was very harsh on this one.

  • @brandonolar3217
    @brandonolar32172 жыл бұрын

    wait wait wait... at 24:36, the dive. he landed 2 q's so fast, do ignite ticks reduce q cool down? or do ult ticks reduce it?? there's no way it was just autos from clone and main that reduced it that much.. I've never noticed that but his q cd went from like 6-7 to like 1.5?

  • @brandonolar3217

    @brandonolar3217

    2 жыл бұрын

    the more I watch its like I've been hitting q half as much as I should have been since the rework o.o

  • @AngelusArgentum

    @AngelusArgentum

    2 жыл бұрын

    R hits reset Q cooldown :) Please, now that you know this... Press W.