PLANNING YOUR SIM RIG & UPGRADES - Part 2 - Logitech G923 vs Thrustmaster TS-XW

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Today we continue our series taking you from an entry level sim rig through a typical upgrade path all the way to ultra-high-end to help you find the sweet spot for your needs and budget.
Today we're upgrading from the Logitech G923 to the Thrustmaster TS-XW wheel which comes bundles with Thrustmasters T3PA pedals and comparing the experience, as well as comparing to some other common hardware from Fanatec within a similar price range.
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0:00 - Intro
1:31 - Hardware Overview
14:30 - Considerations when Mounting
21:01 - Driving Tests
31:03 - Conclusions
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  • @TheSinistercr0c
    @TheSinistercr0c3 жыл бұрын

    As a newbie to the SIM racing scene this is EXACTLY the kind of content I'm looking for....honest and objective. Subscribed as a result, cheers guys!

  • @boostedmedia

    @boostedmedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    Welcome. Glad you found it helpful.

  • @OG3Maliii

    @OG3Maliii

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m starting to get into it too. What did you end up getting and what are your opinions. Was gonna get a g29 but might just save money for something better

  • @DavidGarcia-oi5nt

    @DavidGarcia-oi5nt

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@OG3Maliii I started out on a G920, upgraded to a T300 , ended up getting a faulty one and decided to return it and have now purchased a Simagic Alpha Mini. I'd say the Logitech is the best bet if you want something that lasts you years. ThrustMaster also has trouble with overheating. You should start out with something cheaper like this to make sure that you enjoy the hobby, I've used my G920 for about 2500 hours now and can fully well justify an upgrade. ( Running TLCM pedals as well for the last 4 months and I love them)

  • @ubufamily

    @ubufamily

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@DavidGarcia-oi5nt Have the same setup right now, that you used to have (g920 + TLCM) :) Thinking about Simagic Alpha Mini as well. Have you received the Mini? How does it feel? I'm also considering this TS-XW base to save some $ (compared to the Mini) and but still gain performance in AC drifting compared to g920..

  • @DavidGarcia-oi5nt

    @DavidGarcia-oi5nt

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ubufamily hey bud :). I received my Alpha Mini on August 03 and I absolutely love it! It is worth every single cent to me! It feels so amazingly smooth and powerful , I would want to describe it as the wheel is so fast now that the cars basically drive themselves and behaves more like a real steering wheel would. Even though I suck at drifting other people tell me the wheel it's great for it ;) I personally find the TS-XW to be terribly overpriced for me in Canada, on Amazon it comes out to basically the same price as my Mini did, except that if you can find a used TS-XW this might be worth it. (I even got the most expensive Mini package, tho I can only find the TS-XW P310 SPARCO mod). Also the TS-XW is filled with plastic in its construction while the Mini is all metal in base and rim, with zero reported overheating. Though I just wanted to make sure that you knew that the Simagic Alpha Mini does not support either console (I'm on PC), so if you want to get a DD wheel for your Xbox then the Fanatec CSL DD is your only option and this is genuinely the same price as a TS-XW wheel!! You should join us in the Simagic discord server so you can ask all the questions!! Just search for it on Disboard :D

  • @pocketsizepr
    @pocketsizepr2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you...first time sim racing wheel buyer and this video made me get the TS-XW as an individual unit and the T-LCM pedals separately. Smashing setup, love it. Thank you.

  • @KingFischRacing
    @KingFischRacing3 жыл бұрын

    Will love this series wish it was around when I first started but I think it will help new comers thanks for sharing as always.

  • @safaridice
    @safaridice3 жыл бұрын

    You are the first person to even mention about difficulties of taking the gear to another country. That's great. Quality content bro! Keep it up

  • @Skunky-Blanco
    @Skunky-Blanco3 жыл бұрын

    I just started with two G27's but I broke them both and bought my first Thrustmaster T500 RS GT and it worked for 5 years without any issues. I just bought a new TS-XW and I am super happy with it.

  • @knoedeltoni1968

    @knoedeltoni1968

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the 500 RS too. Is the new one so much better?

  • @Skunky-Blanco

    @Skunky-Blanco

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@knoedeltoni1968 yes the TS-XW is stronger and a bit faster.

  • @metaphyzxx
    @metaphyzxx2 жыл бұрын

    This is truly the EXACT video I needed. Answering the exact questions that I had!

  • @FrijoleBlanco
    @FrijoleBlanco2 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered the TS-XW Advantage pack and looking forward to it. It includes the load cell upgrade so hoping that makes these pedals even better. Upgrading from a G920 and awaiting my GT Omega Prime cockpit as well! Thanks for the video and all the detail. SUPER helpful.

  • @Fly-ip8vq
    @Fly-ip8vq3 жыл бұрын

    i cant believe the timing of this video!! i was literally about to upgrade from the t300 to a ts-xw and was trying to find some decent youtube reviews and comparisons but couldn't find any. couple days later and this legend drops the video i needed. thanks heaps mate!

  • @mariuszmaxankazuya3170

    @mariuszmaxankazuya3170

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not much of the difference between this two.

  • @tomydespins2315

    @tomydespins2315

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mariuszmaxankazuya3170 there is definitely difference between the two sure it is not TMX(or t150)to TX(t300) But there is still a big difference the TS-XW is way more precise in my opinion i can feel the weight of the car behave way more with my ts-xw and i upgrade less than a month and a half(almost 1year of using my Tx) i sell my TX to one of my friend and he drive my ts-xw and he notice the difference instantly

  • @xstonecoldkillerx
    @xstonecoldkillerx3 жыл бұрын

    Can't wait for the next episode...I started out with T150 wheel and pedals attached to my desk....I upgraded to TLCM and F-GT cockpit and I am now looking to upgrade my wheel and have had my eye on the TS-PC for a while now!

  • @thq4941
    @thq49413 жыл бұрын

    Great vid thank you and a highly accurate summation, liked and subbed. Exactly my experience having gone from a desk mounted Logitech G29 to a TS-XW on a Next Level GT Ultimate. One of things I relatively quickly did was to replace the pedals with a set of Fanatec CSL Elie LC. The extendable arms on the wheel stand are set low to match a wall mounted single 43" 4K TV and so the stability is just fine for the TS-XW. Being a V8 Supercars fan in simulators the TS-XW is right at home. Good old Assetto Corsa with the V8SCorsa mod as well as FVR V8 Supercars mod in rFactor 2 and I'm set.

  • @szabo_bakter
    @szabo_bakter3 жыл бұрын

    This video nails it! I switched from a G29 to it and everything you say in this video is true! It's a fantastic base! Specially with 350mm Wheels!

  • @Phatzoot

    @Phatzoot

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ah man im well excited i have a g29 but ive just ordered one of these today and i cant wat lol i hate the noises the g29 makes

  • @hysobee
    @hysobee3 жыл бұрын

    Waiting for part 3. Great vid man!

  • @michaelwood8555
    @michaelwood85552 жыл бұрын

    I ran this wheelbase and pedals for over a year before upgrading to the load cell pedals. What a difference! Actually took a few days to come to grips with them (ha ha) but soooo much better

  • @AAKhanivore
    @AAKhanivore2 жыл бұрын

    Best review/comparison by far. I was going to get the T300 but it’s £100 more than the G923 and after seeing this review I’ve decided to go for the G923.

  • @orange42
    @orange42 Жыл бұрын

    Loved this discussion. I used to drive a logitech wheel ages ago and looking into something else now. But when I was using that wheel I got the feeling that I was "driving" a set of switches. Not driving at all, just a bunch of switches. What you describe sounds so much better.

  • @andyduncan9442
    @andyduncan94423 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review. I purchased the wheel with the load cell pedals yesterday from Pagnian. I'm upgrading from g920. Really looking forward to getting it up and running.

  • @antmax
    @antmax3 жыл бұрын

    Nice review. I'm glad I got the Fanatec CSL pedals to go with the TS-PC Racer wheel I bought for my computer last year. I was procrastinating quite a bit at the time.

  • @prkid3353
    @prkid33533 жыл бұрын

    Great review! I had purchased this bundle and ran into same problem. Had to place 2 metal strip brackets on front and mid section for support onto my rig, yet, still have problems every once in awhile depending on braking pressure applied. Gave me an idea with the zip ties!

  • @drchtct
    @drchtct3 жыл бұрын

    Eagerly waiting for part 3!

  • @johnmifsud6007
    @johnmifsud60073 жыл бұрын

    Loving these series will. Can confirm I have a t150 pro that came with these same peddles. I’ve started to notice the exact same thing as you pointed out. I’ve also added the brake mod. Would love to know if there’s a way to improve the brake as that’s where time is gained and lost. Keep it up 👍 mate

  • @NoDepth
    @NoDepth3 жыл бұрын

    Yea this is great. Even though I do have a full Profile rig with a DD1 for PC, I have been eyeing a cheaper "living room" setup for the consoles. Really nice to see a breakdown like this. Cheers!

  • @cornishtim
    @cornishtim3 жыл бұрын

    These videos are so good! I am in the exact position of having sold my Xbox and got a PC. Upgraded from a GT Omega wheel stand and the sofa to the seat frame and seat add on with a monitor stand. Even just that has totally blown my mind as far as immersion and comfort goes. Next on the list is pedals then wheel base. It frustrates the hell out of me that the TS-XW package contains the same pedals as the TMX Pro set I already have. It’s a major set back and has lead me into looking at the TS-PC but upgrading to the T-LCM pedals first. Really looking forward to your thoughts on that set up. Seems like there have been a few issues with getting them to work together. Had an eye on Fanatec gear but it’s so hard to get hold of in the UK and demand during lockdown + Brexit have sent prices way above where they should be.

  • @EddieInChina
    @EddieInChina2 жыл бұрын

    Just uograded to tsxw from g923 after 10 days of use. Thanks for this vid, Really helpful

  • @exi9164
    @exi91642 жыл бұрын

    I got the opportunity to try both the logitech g920 and a fully built tsxw setup, and man what a world of a difference, imo it definitely be better to go with the tsxw

  • @DavidKohout
    @DavidKohout2 жыл бұрын

    Very great series, you deserve way more subs!

  • @bakerXderek
    @bakerXderek3 жыл бұрын

    Nice well rounded review, finally bit the bullet and bought this base.

  • @RabbitConfirmed

    @RabbitConfirmed

    2 жыл бұрын

    of only you'd have waited a little, thrustmaster is gonna release a DD wheel base this year.

  • @duk2k

    @duk2k

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RabbitConfirmed whats it called?

  • @viggoketelaar7106

    @viggoketelaar7106

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@RabbitConfirmed not confirmed yet

  • @RabbitConfirmed

    @RabbitConfirmed

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@viggoketelaar7106 It's confirmed by Thrustmaster, just not exactly the name and the specs. But it's offical by Thrustmaster that they said they are gonna release a DD this year.

  • @madserkone1001

    @madserkone1001

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yo Yo Mushroom tip. CHEAH!.

  • @rossgilchrist8996
    @rossgilchrist89962 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review, helped me to buy this set up.

  • @BenFilley
    @BenFilley3 жыл бұрын

    Just watching to give you the view count. Pretty damn happy I recently upgraded from a tmx pro to a csl elite that I got minimally used for $500 usd with pedals. Figured I’d grab that since I know DD wheels are simply out of my price range, and the new fanatic one won’t be in stock for probably close to a year after launch. So this helps me progress while still having a good upgrade path in the future. Not letting go of my thrustmaster shifter though, it’s usb so I don’t need to swap it out.

  • @phillupson8561
    @phillupson85613 жыл бұрын

    I faced this exact conundrum getting into sim racing last year and I started with the TS-XW, the review is bang on. I began with a table, flex was a nightmare and I had to buy a rig, the pedals fit fine to my rig but they aren't good, there is no real feel to them and locked up a lot under braking, upgraded to the T-LCMs and they were a fantastic upgrade, took about 3 hours of practice with the load cells and I wasn't just better, it was like night and day and I basically never lock my wheels up any more. I'd say the TS-XW (and probably TS-PC) with the T-LCMs is plenty good enough to get you bitten by the sim racing bug. I'd say my number 1 warning is, you will need a rig to get the most of out this, so buy with that in mind (I didn't!)

  • @sertec4804
    @sertec48042 жыл бұрын

    Very good analysis. I bought them two months ago and the truth is that the T3PAs leave a lot to be desired, they look beautiful, within their category, also comfortable but they brake fatally. So I have moved on to TLCM. Thanks you!

  • @Dave062YT
    @Dave062YT Жыл бұрын

    Btw after a month of use, I have to mention how good and solid the F-GT cockpit is and well worth the extra over the Lite ,the same as how the T-CLM pedals are a dif class from the bundle pedals.I ve made a brace with a couple of pieces of 4 x 2 to the wall that completely eliminates any flex in the pedal tray with the extra stiff brake mod and it's perfect .[Wrapped the wood in black material to look a bit neater]Thanks for the build video ,it really helped .

  • @mrcrynox3752
    @mrcrynox37523 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this video series. I bought a Logitech G920 and is interesting to hear your thoughts about the brake pedal. I struggle with it, I can't feel where I am and as a consequence never brake anywhere near as good as I can with an analogue trigger. I'm keen to see this series develop as at the moment I'm happier using my trusty controller. You may convince me that I need to try something different rather than giving up, which is how I feel atm.

  • @olddogg60
    @olddogg603 жыл бұрын

    Again, nice review/comparison Will. 👍

  • @Voltsify
    @Voltsify3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome series mate

  • @jamesgrant4227
    @jamesgrant42273 жыл бұрын

    Originally had the T3PA pedals with my TX and using the conical brake mod (or alternative mod that I eventually used) is a must imo - you can also adjust how close it is to the pedal and finding a position that suits you is essential! I got totally dialled in with them and when I upgraded to the T-LCM it took me ages to get used to them - think it took about 3 months before I could match then eventually beat my old T3PA times!

  • @DavidGarcia-oi5nt
    @DavidGarcia-oi5nt3 жыл бұрын

    You have such nice things Will! Must have worked hard for all you've achieved :)

  • @wanabdulhadi1268
    @wanabdulhadi12683 жыл бұрын

    I began my sim racing journey with a t300rs that came with these pedals and quickly upgraded to the tlcm pedals in a month. A great set of loadcell brake pedals is a no brainer when it comes to upgrade paths and which to prioritise. The t300 or even the ts series of wheelbases would no doubt suffice many a sim racer, but I simply had the itch for wanting more detail despite being constrained budget-wise and also what’s available on the market. Instead, I went straight for a direct drive wheelbase in the m10 instead of settling for a ts series wheelbase, as it costs about the same as fanatec clubsport v2 would where I am.

  • @Norto1967
    @Norto19673 жыл бұрын

    Back to my budget :) Great channel btw

  • @adambucek2138
    @adambucek21383 жыл бұрын

    Great video man!🤩🔥🔥🤩

  • @sim_racing_pops1675
    @sim_racing_pops16753 жыл бұрын

    Nice video Got the g923 which is great starting out but think eventually the thrustmaster mentioned will be the next step forward

  • @RoehlRoad
    @RoehlRoad3 жыл бұрын

    Hook and loop cinch straps are really handy for mounting pedals. I use two to mount my CSL Elite pedals to my Playseat Challenge seat and it is pretty sturdy.

  • @michajura3670
    @michajura36703 жыл бұрын

    What I've done in my t3pa pros. I've set the conical mod to touch the brake lever. It give a little less throw but it feels much better.

  • @deepenproductions
    @deepenproductions3 жыл бұрын

    Me over hear with my 150 dollar g27 and a wood frame with the old Sparco seat from my MR2. Honestly an awesome set up for the price! Would suggest for budget builders.

  • @grantjohno67

    @grantjohno67

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’ve got a G29 on a timber frame rig that I built myself with a Commodore Car seat. I’ve upgraded the pedals to a Clubsport V3. It does the job ok. I’m not quick but more to do with the amount of practice I do. 🤔🤞

  • @robertcarr4172
    @robertcarr4172 Жыл бұрын

    Iv had a TX but it was basically faulty from the get go (bought it 2nd hand) and when it finally gave up , I went with an old tmx (as you can guess, I'm poor) and that's also been painful. I'm finally upgrading to a TSXW base. Super excited to feel it

  • @chadsugden411
    @chadsugden4112 жыл бұрын

    Part 3 part 3 please! Next step up from this is most of the market IMO!

  • @frankfs_3348
    @frankfs_33483 жыл бұрын

    Nice video mate 👌🏼

  • @Dave062YT
    @Dave062YT Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant stuff .I bought the T GT II for GT7 but instead of the bundle I got the base unit .F! wheel and T LCM pedals foe £720 plus an F gt cockpit.Thanks for the great tips

  • @Arkkis27
    @Arkkis273 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward for the next video in this series! Bought TLCM pedals couple weeks ago and looking TS-PC Ferrari-edition as my next upgrade (currently using DFGT wheel). Really looking forward for your opinion on both products. My only complain with TLCM is the brake pedal being too close to the gas pedal but other than that loving the set! And my pain with non-adjustable placement just got bigger yesterday since Fanatec released their update to their entry level pedals (which would have made me choose their product) :(

  • @Voldnarok
    @Voldnarok3 жыл бұрын

    I'm new to sim racing I just started few months ago but I'm loving it. I have a Omega Apex Stand, Thrustmaster T300RS with stock Pedals (2 pedals set only) the brake it's lose like the throttle no pressure at all lol But thanks to you Will - Boosted Media and to Barry - Sim Racing Garage... I'm planning to update to a Sim Lab P1-X cockpit, Simtrecs ProPedal GT (I alredy pre-ordered because this could take time), Fanatec Clubsport Shifter and now comes the part I'm not sure about I don't know if I buy the VRS DirectForce Pro DD or the Simucube 2 Pro DD or Triple or 49 ultrawide screen I'm not sure about this too! But I'm really exited I think whit this gear I can really get more consistent and this way be more prepared to be race win contender in iRacing.

  • @GaryVapes
    @GaryVapes3 жыл бұрын

    Great video as always mate. Just upgraded to the TS PC Ferrari edition from the TMX and it’s so much better! Totally agree about the pedals too! Ditched the Thrustmaster pedals a long time ago for the Fanatec CSL load cells. Between the wheel upgrade and pedals I’ve knocked at least 0.5 seconds of my laps times 👍🏻

  • @johnpaulguevarra6916

    @johnpaulguevarra6916

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good day Sir, how is your experience with your TS PC Ferrari 488? I really want Fanatec but TM is the one accessible w/o the ridiculous prices from resellers here in Asia (other than Japan). However, I am hesitant because I've been reading issues regarding the TS PC especially the rattling/cracking sound on brand new ones.

  • @biffisgreat

    @biffisgreat

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mine does the rattle thing, it's only miner, and only on huge bumps, curbs, or crashing, it was fine but beamng decided to send a massive spike or something, to the vibration motors, I haven't taken it apart yet to fix it, but I imagine it's minor, stripped threads, loose bolts etc. Other than that it's fantastic, and the only logical upgrade from one is a DD wheel, the clubsport is kinda a sideways move, I have about 600 hrs on Mine, and it's such a major upgrade from a Logitech or the t150/TMX

  • @johnpaulguevarra6916

    @johnpaulguevarra6916

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@biffisgreat Thanks for replying sir. Here in Asia (Other than Japan), Thrustmaster is the reasonable choice. Resellers are selling Fanatec stuff for almost 2x price here with the uncertainty on warranty. I was just hesitant on the complaints (especially the rattling noise) on brandnew ts-pc thats why I think of asking a relative in AUS or US to be the receiver of Fanatec. Have a nice day sir! :)

  • @biffisgreat

    @biffisgreat

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnpaulguevarra6916 update on the rattle, it was the desk clamp, ya oops,

  • @johnpaulguevarra6916

    @johnpaulguevarra6916

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@biffisgreat Thanks. Maybe they just get unlucky with the rattling sound on the motor. Might just get one, not sure if I can still wait for the csl dd 😂 Have a nice day.

  • @kilarn123
    @kilarn1233 жыл бұрын

    I did the switch from a G920 to the TS-XW several month ago. In Europe (probably in the rest of the world as well) you can by those things separately. I saw some reviews before buying that told about the same thing for the pedals in this kit. So I bought the TS-XW, the sparco P310 add on and T-LCM pedals separately. A kit like this makes much more sense. One thing to keep in mind is that since the p310 wheel is not centered, it's much harder to use it for rallying or drifting. You will need to buy another wheel if you want a proper rallying experience.

  • @blklion100
    @blklion1003 жыл бұрын

    I had the G27. When it died, I got the T300 that came bundled with the T3PA pedals. My next upgrade was the T-LCM pedals when they came out. I got a good deal on a used CSW 2.5 with the round P1 wheel. Because I already have my loadcell pedals, there was no need for me to go with the Club Sport V3 ones, and I already have a spring replacement mod for a more progressive rate on the brake. My next upgrade will be from my NextLevel DD wheel stand to a full profile rig and maybe go direct drive down the road.

  • @Phaethon569

    @Phaethon569

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you had to redo the upgrade from thr G27, would you start first with the T300 or the T-LCM?

  • @blklion100

    @blklion100

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Phaethon569 I still would have started with the T300. Going from a gear driven wheel to a belt driven one was an eye opener in terms of the smoothness and fidelity of the force feedback.

  • @FuriousFry
    @FuriousFry3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for being very honest about the issues with the t3pa pedals. My friends all use a g29/27 with the corresponding pedals, but I liked the feel of the t300rs way better, so I bought that one. On braking however I just cant get the consistency that they have, often locking up since theres no reference points. Ive been looking for mods to make it work, maybe I'll try your zip tie + cone mod solution.

  • @The_Monkey_Boss
    @The_Monkey_Boss Жыл бұрын

    Hey, these videos are soo helpful thanks!! A year later though and still no part 3 as promised :( . Any chance of a part 3 in the near future?? I'm looking to get the TS-PC and T-LCM pedals so part 3 would be incredibly helpful! Appreciate any response and love the videos :)

  • @eetuli85
    @eetuli853 жыл бұрын

    When using the T3PA conical brake mode, I adjust brake gamma in controller settings. I like it so that it's about 50% force on the rubber stopper. I think it simulates real brakes better, otherwise you really lack all finesse while braking. It's not ideal but still much better than just spring tension. Currently i'm experimenting with a squash ball in place of the rubber mod and while the overall feel is stiffer, I think it feels much better and I think I'll be able to create better muscle memory with it.

  • @banditfishing1558
    @banditfishing1558 Жыл бұрын

    I can firmly say the TLCM pedals are a major upgrade from the T3PA set. I had my tp3a pedals for a few year and the unfortunately got water damaged while some housework was being done. I looked for a new set and found a second hand set of TLCM pedals on eBay for £160 (not sure what that is in au). I got them and bolted them to my wooden home made flimsy af rig. Combined with my Thrustmaster TMX wheel and the th8a shifter. My lap times improved 2 seconds on most tracks when racing. When drifting with friends I found I could be more accurate meaning I could tandem closer to my friends ect. I have don’t one mod to my TLCM pedals which made them feel even better. This is the mod that Sim Racing Corner shows on his channel. I can honestly say they feel much better now and my lap times have improved again with this mod. I am running an Xbox so therefore I’m playing assetto corsa and forza motorsport/horizon. All I need is a new wheelbase and a handbrake as I managed to destroy my TMX with a handbrake mod. Mod worked perfectly until someone tripped over my handbrake wire, ripping the b button circuit out of the wheel. I’m thinking of going with the TSXW with the sparco handbrake. I’ll just need to build a new sim rig first

  • @MrAudi220
    @MrAudi2203 жыл бұрын

    I have about the same opinion as you, at this price point, the wheel base should be paired with at least the t3pa pro pedals like you get on the t500rs, they are also not the best but at least you get a more solid pedal base for the price, in a ideal world this kit would have come with the t-LCM load cell pedals, that would be the perfect pair up for me,loved the review looking foreward to the ts-pc review with the t-LCM pedals.👍

  • @AZEOforreal
    @AZEOforreal3 жыл бұрын

    Haven't gotten a wheel yet but do drifting irl so this helps me pick the right one for me :)

  • @that.guy11
    @that.guy112 жыл бұрын

    Had my TS-XW for over a year now and super happy with it; I will say though the standard T3PA pedals really are the weak point, especially the brake. I persevered for a while before swapping them out for a set of T-LCMs. Utterly transformed the overall feeling of my setup, and since I sold my T3PAs the upgrade only cost about £100. So worth doing for anyone with a TS-XW

  • @johnquint6936
    @johnquint69363 жыл бұрын

    Hanging for part 3, let's go =)

  • @Red2_Gaming
    @Red2_Gaming3 жыл бұрын

    The pedals on the TS-XW are shocking quality compared to the base. I switched out to my old metal pedals that shipped with the T500RS which are effectively the same pedals but coated in metal just for a slightly more quality feel. Definately worth upgrading the pedals though because all the default Thrustmaster pedals are pretty poor quality.

  • @chuckwagon7354
    @chuckwagon73543 жыл бұрын

    I bought the Servo base, P310 and T-LCM pedals separate. Didn't get the stickers with the wheel. But it's fun trying to work out what the buttons do!

  • @wild_lee_coyote
    @wild_lee_coyote3 жыл бұрын

    It will be interesting to see where the Fanatec CSL DD and peddle set comes in at. The quality and upgradability of Fanatec seems to be vastly higher for the same price tag. I can’t wait to see your review of the Fanatec system up in comparison.

  • @THESHADOW97139

    @THESHADOW97139

    2 жыл бұрын

    CSL DD 5nm ok ( might as well take this one ) .... but CSL DD 8nm is superior and more expensive.

  • @Draven2k
    @Draven2k3 жыл бұрын

    cant wait for the Direct drive Fanatec video next.

  • @QuimFreecss
    @QuimFreecss3 жыл бұрын

    I began with a logitech 920 and a wheelstand pro, then got your playseat cockpit and recently I upgraded to a ts xw with the new ferrari rim. Been really happy with it and the force feedback is much better than the logitech and most importantly doesn't go down on extended sessions. The cockpit can stand it no problem. I still need to upgrade my pedals and I'll just wait for the new csl elite pedals to come out. I don't really like the thrustmaster ones.

  • @Mrmizzy55
    @Mrmizzy553 жыл бұрын

    Those omen monitors are ducking SICK!! only problem is when I look at them I see a 2017 fully loaded Silverado lol

  • @dragbag1616
    @dragbag16163 жыл бұрын

    It's funny to me because a week ago I switched over from these pedals, T3PA, which I must have used for around 5 years, to Heusinkveld Sprints, and at first I had less control. My feet are now so used to the potentiometers that braking based on pressure felt odd. Now I'm gradually getting used to it after the week, but it definitely is a weird thing to have to re-do a muscle memory like that. Road cars are alright since they too have a large amount of travel, but especially now with racecar-like settings on the Sprints where there's barely any travel with pressure, it's a massive change.

  • @boostedmedia

    @boostedmedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    That’s a pretty normal experience. It always takes time to reset muscle memory.

  • @Unsafe1671
    @Unsafe16713 жыл бұрын

    I started out on a G920 and used it until I wore out the upshift paddle, I moved to a TS-XW and to be honest I didn't really notice much difference but I also wasn't really looking for any. I just wanted to be able to play. It took a little while but I was able to get the brake set up with the mod and managed to get reasonable consistent. I then upgraded the pedals to a set of Simworx Pro GT V2 (I think) and have been pretty happy with them. Although as I was typing this I went and had a look at the brake pedal because it's been feeling a bit weird lately, and it looks like I've burst the seal on the hydraulic damper. I guess it's time to see if they'll sell me a new damper.

  • @DukeGaGa
    @DukeGaGa3 жыл бұрын

    This reminded me of my own upgrade path, started with a G27 about 8 years ago, and a playseat evolution. After two years or so later, when TM launched their TX wheel, I got that and a next level racing wheel stand, and eventually got a T3PA pedal set and TH8A shifter. About three years later I ditched TM and switched to Fanatec CSW v2.5, v3 pedals, v1.5 shifter and simetik k2 cockpit. And just a few days ago I got myself a brand new DD2. Also thinking about getting a simlab p1-x rig.

  • @jacobcisco7059

    @jacobcisco7059

    3 жыл бұрын

    Do ittt...lol..if you can

  • @DukeGaGa

    @DukeGaGa

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jacobcisco7059 it’ll have to wait, Simetik K2 is still working pretty well for me, not flexing with DD2 mounted, and p1-x is quite a lot bigger, need to do some measurements to figure out where to put it. I’m currently waiting for a new bucket seat to arrive so I can finally get rid of the squeaky reclinable seat, also I just ordered the new Vive Pro 2 to replace valve index.

  • @DjDj-zr2wy
    @DjDj-zr2wy3 жыл бұрын

    Thomas jackermeier said in the "your CSL DD questions answered video" that the CSL elite was faster but had less Torque than the CSL clubsport, simply because of different cog ratios for each model. This plus your video + the fact that thrustmaster says their alim is 400w pic, made me think the TS-PC /TS xw will still be very competitive compared to the 5Nm CSL DD. Can't wait for the actual review. I bet a DD is still a DD and will be better but thrustmaster is still relevant if they lower their wheel base price below 350 (considering their wheel are cheaper)

  • @juanramosb.4029
    @juanramosb.40293 жыл бұрын

    Funny to see that the column where my name as Patreon is wider due my long name hahahahaha I am still missing most of the easter eggs because I have to listen to the videos mostly as I keep working. Great video!

  • @boostedmedia

    @boostedmedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lmao! Tom struggled on that one. 🤪

  • @juanramosb.4029

    @juanramosb.4029

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@boostedmedia Maybe just as Juan Ramos Braga?

  • @inbloom08
    @inbloom083 жыл бұрын

    Only KZreadr that I thumbs up after 1 sec

  • @boostedmedia

    @boostedmedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    HEY GU…..*thumbs up*

  • @inbloom08

    @inbloom08

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@boostedmedia 😂🤘

  • @dariuszrozycki6323
    @dariuszrozycki63233 жыл бұрын

    Squash ball is a great upgrade to T3Pa pedals. It gives you a lot more precision and progressive feeling during braking. You just have to put the squash ball between conical brake and your pedal. It works a lot better than the standard cone-shaped rubber.

  • @canadian2fur532
    @canadian2fur5323 жыл бұрын

    Great vid! I hope you make a video comparing just pedals as I have T3PA Pros with a load cell mod but I’ve always felt my breaking is my weak point and watching this video has me questioning if I need new pedals.

  • @boostedmedia

    @boostedmedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    We did a video quote some time ago covering everything you need to know regarding pedals, but we will of course do some more direct pedal only comparisons once we test out the T-LCMs in the next video…. kzread.info/dash/bejne/h6ubzKeukbK_lZs.html

  • @canadian2fur532

    @canadian2fur532

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@boostedmedia I will have to take a look. Appreciate the reply! 👍

  • @canadian2fur532

    @canadian2fur532

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@boostedmedia that was a great video lots of information! Thank you!

  • @alec7568
    @alec75682 жыл бұрын

    I've had this exact thrustmaster gear for a while now and im loving it. The thrustmaster pedals suck though. I'll be upgrading to a load cell set. The pedals don't stay quiet for long btw, after using them for a while they get very squeaky. They also don't fit properly to my cockpit, I had to figure out my own solution for that. The h pattern shifter is kinda cool though.

  • @tinkybhoy
    @tinkybhoy2 жыл бұрын

    At 9.40, you could put male side of Velcro , it sticks amazing.......try it.......x that sticks to carpet or any fluffy surface.....lol....xxxx

  • @washingupliquid5089
    @washingupliquid50892 жыл бұрын

    you guys are underrated

  • @emilklotz6227
    @emilklotz62273 жыл бұрын

    I bought a csl elite 2 days before they anounced the csl dd and now the new csl pedals

  • @NWA_1919
    @NWA_19192 жыл бұрын

    I would definitely just buy the ts-pc and the t-lcm. That's basically what i did. I have the setup mounted on a nlr f-gt cocpit. The pedals give you alot of lap time.

  • @eriol_mits3121
    @eriol_mits31213 жыл бұрын

    For a hack with this set of pedals. Place a spring between the break mod and the pedal, adding resistance for that first 15/20%

  • @vojtechnavratil6613
    @vojtechnavratil66133 жыл бұрын

    Hello, I have the T300RS GT edition which also includes T3PA in set and I have to agree with you in most points. I during last year I looked at 3D printed mods and tested some of these. In the end I had to redesign few mods to by capable to combine them and because I was not 100% satisfied with the design point. I can sent you some pictures and stl files of the redesigned parts which I created.

  • @boostedmedia

    @boostedmedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    That would be great! Thank you! If you jump in our discord community there’s a section for 3D printing :)

  • @sonnyhelms2962
    @sonnyhelms2962 Жыл бұрын

    Hello Mr. Boosted media, I love your videos, I am here in Prescott Arizona in the states. I have my new cockpit and the triple monitors and stuff is on the way. I want something that has better feed back in the wheel and better pedals but don't want to be overwhelmed with tinkering to get it right or figure it out. I was leaning towards the Logitech Pro but thought I would reach out to you for a recommendation. Anyways thank you for your helpful videos.

  • @Lucky_Stickman
    @Lucky_Stickman3 жыл бұрын

    I wound the brake mod out alot so I had a stiffer pedal feel to judge off but upgraded to fanatec clubsport v3s as soon as I started driving more.

  • @freak5837
    @freak58373 жыл бұрын

    Will be interesting to see how the CSL DD and new pedals from Fanatec compare with the TS-XW, looks like pricing will be about the same.

  • @KingFischRacing
    @KingFischRacing3 жыл бұрын

    When I was looking at a new wheel base I was reading that the g29 is more like the thrustmaster t300 and the tsw is more like the csl elite.

  • @5dstrix
    @5dstrix Жыл бұрын

    The thrustmaster pedals with conical mod can be worlds better than you had them setup to be, you need to adjust the cone so it sits closer to the brake, which reduces the amount of travel before you hit the threshold, you start getting pressure feedback sooner and you have to push fairly hard to brake fully. I now have T-LCM pedals with an elastomer mod, but honestly the conical mod isn't far off when you set it up right.

  • @paulkelleway8032
    @paulkelleway80323 жыл бұрын

    Great to see gear being given some air time that doesn’t cost the earth. I’d like to see you try the TX / T300 because I believe that base is the best value in sim racing, it’s gives you almost what the TSXW does for a lot less money.

  • @steveawesome9538

    @steveawesome9538

    3 жыл бұрын

    I bought the TS300RS, the T LCM pedals and the TH8 7 speed gear shifter(I haven't used the shifter yet). All on a GT Omega adjustable stand. I finally got it all adjusted and setup up yesterday. So far I used it on F1 2020 and AC for PS4. I spent about 4 hours on AC last night just mainly doing practice laps around the Monza F1 track with various cars. This is my first wheel and pedal set. But so far the feedback is pretty good and everything works as it should. You can really tell the thing is working at the chicane at the end of the start/finish straight. And at other parts of the track where it isn't as smooth as you'd think it would be, you can really feel it. So far, I feel this is the best bang for your buck in entry level SIM equipment. It's above the toy level of the T80 and the T150, but it's at the price point where you get a lot of value equipment wise for your money. My intent was to just enjoy F1 2020 properly, but if I really enjoyed it, move on to some of the other sims and potentially play online against others. At that point I may upgrade to a direct drive, I would probably make the move to Fanatec, the CSL stuff looks to be good enough for me, I'll probably move to a pc based system and do a proper cockpit rig of some sort at that point. But in the event, the SIM racing hobby wasn't for me, I feel I bought a decent entry level rig that someone else could enjoy at a discount, that didn't break the bank for me, and would have decent value for resale.

  • @gankdalfthedank9855

    @gankdalfthedank9855

    3 жыл бұрын

    T300s max torque output is like maybe half of the xw

  • @paulkelleway8032

    @paulkelleway8032

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@gankdalfthedank9855 it's not all about torque, it's about what information you get through the wheel. People are obsessed with torque these days!

  • @danielranleesoria9609
    @danielranleesoria96092 жыл бұрын

    Waiting for part 3 👌🤘

  • @boostedmedia

    @boostedmedia

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not too far off now.

  • @danielranleesoria9609

    @danielranleesoria9609

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@boostedmedia yey!!

  • @georgebeckmann4590
    @georgebeckmann45903 жыл бұрын

    love it

  • @pieflies
    @pieflies2 жыл бұрын

    Looking forward to the next one of these videos. Originally I was waiting for sales on the Logitech 923, but after a bit more research in the meantime I’m currently looking at the TM T300 or TS-PC and T-LCM pedals. Still deciding on shifter and handbrake though. I’m considering the Fanatec Clubsport 1.5 for both, since that covers H & sequential and the two mount together nicely, which is preferable for the space I have. Or possibly I could go for the Fanatec CSL DD, since pricing is not too bad on that it seems.

  • @jeremiahgto9029
    @jeremiahgto90293 жыл бұрын

    I went with the t-lcm pedals, sparco rally wheel which is round and tx servo base for $600 us.. alacarte is the way to go

  • @seanp7277
    @seanp72773 жыл бұрын

    Heya if you turn the mod around and put a strong spring in there they feel better

  • @paulh8829
    @paulh88293 жыл бұрын

    Wheel base is great but you must buy TCLM’s to complete the package

  • @trabuco81
    @trabuco813 жыл бұрын

    Likely that going for Thrustmaster T300 or TX bases would be a better option than lolgitech. My path was Logitrch Gt---> Thrustmaster tx with T3PA Pro Pedals and TH8A Shifter---->Fanatec CS 2.5 with TLCM pedals.

  • @vitoreusebio3086
    @vitoreusebio30862 жыл бұрын

    Hi there. Have you stoped this series? I was really liking it! Cheers

  • @NielsHeusinkveld
    @NielsHeusinkveld3 жыл бұрын

    Actually the 'old' G25 / G27 with just a linear spring in the brake, and this Thrustmaster pedal without the rubber mod, are actually pressure sensitive. Very weak, but with a linear spring, force and potentiometer change linearly with eachother. So yes, you're measuring position, but if the position doubles, so does the force. Tricky to control because it is so light. A rubber mod like the one provided by TM here is actually probably more problematic unless they very precisely alter the calibration of the pot. Feels better on the foot, and with cars that have no downforce, might be more controllable. For high downforce cars where you have to bleed off the brakes from 100% to 0% smoothly, this is probably way harder with the rubber mod installed. As far as I know, Logitech say they changed the 'curve' on the potentiometer to reflect the progressive spring or whatever they use. If this is true, I would expect that brake pedal to feel more natural than the TM pedal with rubber mod. Despite feeling 'weak' I wouldn't use the rubber mod on the TM pedals.

  • @EzzraOG
    @EzzraOG3 жыл бұрын

    Great, informative video series. I assume its not possible as you started with the F GT Lite cockpit but is there any advice or tips on mounting TS-XW to a desk swt up and potentially using load cells on the same set up. (Seen alot of posts on reddit showcase such set ups but wounded what insight you'd have )

  • @boostedmedia

    @boostedmedia

    3 жыл бұрын

    A solid desk is fine for the wheel. For pedals you’ll need some way of fixing them to your chair so they don’t slide. Some people just use a wooden plank with some straps quite effectively.

  • @drchtct
    @drchtct3 жыл бұрын

    I use these Thrustmaster pedals on the carpet and haven't noticed any flex whatsoever. Also, who breaks like that with the heel up lol. But I wouldn't use the mod, it just adds inconsistency. Also, the brake pressure needed to apply is definitely increasing, maybe you're not used to breaking on pedals like that because you're used to LCs. However, I'm looking forward to the next episode of the series to see how Loadcells do on the foldable rig. Trying to put the CSL DD with Loadcell pedals in that foldable rig because I'm travelling between cities as a student over the next two years.

  • @FOLDGOElectricWheelchairs
    @FOLDGOElectricWheelchairs2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for your video! I purchased the thrust master TX for my Xbox. I have recently updated my consul to Xbox series X. I am now having continued problems when I want to game with Forza horizon four. I try to change the advanced settings but the consul does not update. I logout of the game and restart Xbox. About 20% of the time my thrust master steering wheel updates. Sometimes I switch to a different steering game like dirt five and then come back to horizon four and the steering Consol is all over the place. I have posted this problem on forums and reached out to the company directly. Everyone has told me it is compatible with Xbox series X. I am hoping your expertise can help me troubleshoot my thrust master steering wheel. Thank you for your time.

  • @bfife22
    @bfife222 жыл бұрын

    Thankfully they sell the wheelbase on it's own now

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