Plane Jane Calls Out Chappell Roan - Drag Race All Stars 9 Ep 7 - Have Your Say
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In this video, we'll be recapping RuPaul's Drag Race All Stars 9 episode 7. And we'll also be going through the results of your fan votes as well as spilling some recent Drag Race drama!
Have Your Say is your chance to give your feedback on the latest episode of RuPaul's Drag Race.
Please note this video contains spoilers for the episodes. I'm also not able to use video clips due to copyright.
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00:00 - Introduction
02:14 - All Stars 9 episode 7 recap
13:03 - Have Your Say poll results
22:30 - Plane Jane calls out Chappell Roan
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@graffic13
25 күн бұрын
Lolz your opening sounds like Georgina the honest vocal coach🤣🤣🤣
The funniest part about Plane calling Chappell Roan's love for drag performative is that Chappell has been in the drag community longer than Plane has lol.
@pinkfeet518
22 күн бұрын
⏰ 🫖!!!
The thing about Plane is that she didn't just simply say "I don't like Chappell Roan." It's fine to not like her music. She did, with her whole chest, accuse her of basically appropriating drag culture. NOT a good look, mama!
Mean Jean is so in love with her own voice she’s become deaf to everything else.
@ccckmp
25 күн бұрын
Mean Jean 😭😭
@christownsend7552
24 күн бұрын
Not Mean Jean 🪭
You can say its her "opinion" but plane was just straight up wrong and disrespectful with what she said about chappell roan. I don't agree with harassing her though why cant people just not like someone like a normal person and not be weird about it.
Honestly it seems really fake for Plane to talk smack and then when people get upset she does a 180 and posts how she loves her. Idk how she doesn’t see how hypocritical she’s being.
@sandromension4529
26 күн бұрын
It wouldn't be a problem if people just get upset, people are fabricating straight up lies and twisting words. We are all entitled to our own opinions and the comment that Plane made about Chappel was not hateful at all, so people really need to chill the f out. I do agree with you on it being fake doing the 180 and showing love for Chappel all of a sudden.
@sandromension4529
26 күн бұрын
Because I certainly did not know who Chappel was until last week.. was Plane wrong for jumping out of the blue and making assumptions before doing her research? Absolutletly, but this is the same Plane we know from the show, so it shouldn't be a surprise
@johnmarx
25 күн бұрын
I'm fairly certain Plane was just clowning with the whole "i love chappell" thing. As a big fan of both, I'm pretty sure that you can never take anything plane says too seriously haha
@rrrrrr-yo7sz
25 күн бұрын
@@sandromension4529 ah yes because implying a woman isn't really a fan of drag for seemingly no reason wasn't hateful or misogynistic at all...
@sandromension4529
25 күн бұрын
@@rrrrrr-yo7sz please get off the internet and look up the word misogynistic. Plane was questioning how authentic it is for Chappel to call herself a drag queen, not that drag is not for woman. This is also what I stated above with the twisting and turning of words, please don't do that
Plane saying Chappel is feeling fake when she forced so much insincere drama on her season
@JL-fq5tr
14 күн бұрын
Mama, kudos for saying that. For spilling. 😄
Plane is tryhard she’s making it her brand at this point
@migueskoka
23 күн бұрын
tryhard when she is speaking her mind? boo
@ItsJeshasWorld
23 күн бұрын
@@migueskokaspeaking your mind when you are uneducated on the subject? not the vibe lmao
I am confused as to what Plane is saying about being called a man because its true. Plane will never have to fight to get taken seriously as a drag artist because hes a man. While some trans women and cis women are liked, gay men will never have to struggle like some of the rest of the queer community does with their art being taken seriously. Its not shade nor disrespectful to talk about how cis women who do drag aren't taken as seriously. We saw it on Dragula with Sigorney Beaver. I feel like she took offense over being told that maybe she was wrong.
@TylerDowling-mx6lg
26 күн бұрын
No shade, she thought that it would divert attention away from her previous comments & it’s sad how the fandom hyped her up for literally talking about how “bad” someone looks, but one lux called loosey generic the whole world stopped to humble her like life hasn’t humbled her already😳 it’s sad how toxic the fandom is and how they can give the wrong people a platform to hurt people !😊
@RitualoftheHabit
25 күн бұрын
Oh my god i know its like being called a man… when youre a man…. Isnt an insult sis. People arent even saying it as an insult theyre literally saying what you’re saying and lowkey it sucks as a gay woman to hear gay men make ignorant ass comments like this. I feel like sometimes gay dudes can be so ignorant towards anyone elses struggles in the queer community ffs
@veonoev
22 күн бұрын
Chapell would not have gotten this famous if she was a gay man doing drag tho
@Nat_778
20 күн бұрын
Don't forget trans men. Gottmik is the only mainstream trans man drag performer I can think of and even he gets hit with unfair criticism that would never be levelled against cis gay men.
Plane never moved past her childhood. She’s still that bullied kid lashing out as a bully because she blossomed in adulthood. She needs therapy because it’s time to grow up, sisterrrr.
It honestly just looks like Plane is saying how she feels, seeing how people react to it, and reacting accordingly. "It’s just a joke, guys!" energy.
@azari_osaka
26 күн бұрын
the “schroedingers asshole” phenomenon
@quackson3930
26 күн бұрын
It's giving red pill podcast saying crazy shit just to get people rilled up ☠️
The blocking is really not making a differences this season. The ppl who have been blocked dont even win at the end of the day. so its not like they were getting a badge anyway.
@katedix5248
25 күн бұрын
Rigga Morris or what 😂
@funkysuga1994
25 күн бұрын
Angeria could of broke that by blocking plastique she definitely picked the wrong queen to block for episode 8.
Yes Plane, we’re all throwing tomatoes at you darling
I don't care about seeing drama. I'm mostly interested in seeing talent and amazing runway looks. Drama is just a bonus.
Plane Jane shut up challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
I think the drag race fanbase needs to realize “boring” seasons of drag race are usually the happiest casts and that’s something to be celebrated. I’ve personally loved an entire season of vanjie commentary but.. Until the fan base stops harassing the girls trying to “make good television” (i.e mistress, kandy muse, etc) online & in person, we will have harmonious seasons. people can’t separate the drama on tv from real life. kandy muse has talked about her intentions of being a fire starter on purpose because she just wanted to create a great season. yet people act like that’s her every day persona? Other reality show fanbases embrace their villains because they know it’s mostly manufactured drama (russell hantz from survivor, corrine from the bachelor). We’d be better off embracing the producer type girls who just wanna create storylines because the alternative is an actually toxic cast and filming environment.
@lovipoekimo176
25 күн бұрын
Like AS season 8?
@ilymerius
25 күн бұрын
I agree with you in the happy casts being celebrated. I disagree about embracing the producer type girls more, if they embrace them more they'll end up with a cast of fake bitches, part of the reason we love drag race is how the queens are vulnerable and authentically themselves. People who just want to create drama should go star in love island or whatever instead. No hate or anything I just think if they lose the realness of some queens then the charm will be gone from the show. People can't separate characters from real life regardless of how its produced, look at star wars for example the fan base has driven actors to deep depression and near unalivement because of how much hate they get just because people didn't like the character. Once again stupid people who have no critical thinking skills ruin everything for the rest of us.
@JassiChan96
25 күн бұрын
The comment about 'most boring episode so far' was from me. I know you’re not addressing me specifically, but I just wanted to say something briefly: I’ve really enjoyed the season so far and I love the cast. However, for me personally, the episode was just boring.
@Ms.taacky
25 күн бұрын
No..df?
@Emilythematerialgurl
21 күн бұрын
Like when fans pushing more like villians liek earlier seasons it feels like instead that interesting drama people liked it feels fake and phony which is worse because now look those fans made plane's ego to big in her head hell I rather have drama like earlier seasons like Alyssa and coco with jade iconic dont seem fake or forced because fans pushing to have a queen liek that
what pisses me off is that she gets offended when people call her a man in a context where its absolutely necessary bc of her bullshit comment abt chappell that shows her misogyny
This drama with Chappell convinced me to listen to her album and i really liked it. Thank you sisterrrrrrr
Roxxxy stated that she followed the bag amount and weight limits but other queens did not. Some queens had twice or three times as much stuff. This is especially true for the queens who live in LA and don’t need to pay for shipping or worry about weight. She said that they offered for her to have stuff brought in but she said no. So that’s how some queens get away with such elaborate runways
@lovipoekimo176
25 күн бұрын
Sounds like a certain plagiarist TBH 😂
@pinkfeet518
22 күн бұрын
@@lovipoekimo176literally the first thought that popped into my head 🤭
As one of the queens in her hot to go music video and someone who has performed with her MULTIPLE times, I can say without doubt, her love for drag is as real and authentic as anybody else’s.
Blocking doesn't really do anything, period.
I feel like this challenge took forever hahahaha
I mean, it's obvious Plane is doing it for attention cause she likes to stir the pot for drama and Chappell is the moment right now but she underestimated the backlash from the fandom.
Girl… Plane… not this
@BRANDONDEVON
25 күн бұрын
She’s so right thought.
@CarissaEllyn
25 күн бұрын
@@BRANDONDEVON she’s really not though ***
@DKLong42
25 күн бұрын
@@BRANDONDEVON are you being stupid on purpose or what??
@itsmertbitch5790
25 күн бұрын
@@BRANDONDEVON Chappel is literally a drag queen what do you mean by Plane is right???
@uyuyuyuya
24 күн бұрын
@@BRANDONDEVON about what
@22:37 Oh no! What's this? Plane Jane acting like a petty little BULLY?! ** Pretends to be shocked **
Creating drama on a reality show is so difficult these days because it usually feels fake.
Plane is just trying to stay relevant at this point.
@GoranJohansson-zr7ft
26 күн бұрын
Was she ever relevant in the first place?
@Taurobello
26 күн бұрын
@@GoranJohansson-zr7ftyes she is
@Taurobello
26 күн бұрын
Will always be 🎉
@bruc3mdnaX
26 күн бұрын
I would blame the fans for making HER relevant over her nasty “shades” towards the other queens. The shading doesn’t work anymore huh?
@alolaninetales
25 күн бұрын
every season y’all complain about drag not being shady enough and every season y’all show the queens why they shouldn’t voice their real opinions
Plain Jane is so irrelevant lol
@populuxe1
25 күн бұрын
Who are you?
No but Plastiqur has a point - if you have, let's say, two badges, you'd wanna snip the girl who has two like you, cause you won't let her advance. If they snip Plastique or Roxxxy, they're still miles ahead, it truly doesn't matter. Chop the girl who's closest so you can move further.
Plane scrambling for relevancy 3 months after her season. Do better, Mama. Embarrasing
i tried a cheap $10 mask from amazon and it didn't even work 😭😭im def gonna try the manta sleep one! Thanks for the drag race content as always♥♥
Love you love your coverage
If you have to tear down other people to stay relevant, then it’s a sign that you aren’t doing anything else interesting enough to gain attention✈️
@desubysnusnu
25 күн бұрын
There's a reason why people didn't see her as a winner despite having the same track record as Sapphira 🫢
I love Plane but seeing her get ate up like that was funny and her backtracking 😩😩😩
Plastique is incredible, but she's not won any lip syncs yet, so can understand why Angeria decided not to snip her.. also, your ad content is perfect for when I come home from a rave 😂 nice one bruvva
Yall remember when yall dragged lux and mistress? And hyped plane up right after ? Just for her to do this…yall owe them an apology ❤️
@katedix5248
25 күн бұрын
Tbf at least Luxx was right about most things lol and from what I remember, was asked for her opinion, unlike some people
@kaheivi
25 күн бұрын
plane was directed like 5 total hate tweets after her scuffle with amanda and everyone acts like she was harassed. she spent all season being praised for “bringing back drama” while literally just teasing a contestant that left weeks prior. i was waiting for her to pull a luxx and read everybody but the drama was lukewarm at best 😹👎
@youcantdisagreetoadog2706
23 күн бұрын
@@kaheivi miss gurl, let's not forget that the rpdr community are notorious for sending death threats to queens.
@TylerDowling-mx6lg
19 күн бұрын
@@kaheivi this !
Tbh Plaquic maths is matching for me..
Obviously plane hasn’t seen her Pink Pony Club and heard her story
I thought this weeks challenge was quite disappointing and hard to gauge how well the drag queens had done. The written content for the queen’s wasn’t great. And lacked spontaneity.
@katedix5248
25 күн бұрын
I ended up skimming through most of it, I don't like acting challenges anyway but this one was dull af
when they were assigning the roles, I thought the skits would be more interesting. the slapping thing should have only been used in one skit IMO because it got old and we've seen it a lot on Drag Race. the funniest part was the end where Ru went nuts but doesn't really highlight the queens performances.
@saigedoesart
25 күн бұрын
Totally agree I feel like this was just something Ru really wanted to do 😂😂
Yaaay another video ❤
The final part in the challenge was a throwback to The Slap Part 2.
When Miss Jane can't control the drama she started, talk about fake
Plane is such a troll yall still take her too seriously lmao
Love ur vids👍❤
I think people are counting the runway, too, and that is why people the vote for top two was so close at nearly 50/50.
Nobody wants an opinion from someone who as all buddy buddy with Jojo Siwa
@saigedoesart
25 күн бұрын
Who??
@piratorium
19 күн бұрын
@@saigedoesartPlane Jane and Jojo Siwa were hanging out in a gay club recently and a clip of it made the rounds shortly after the Chapell Roan fallout. Which, like....if we want to talk about ACTUAL performative queer celebrities...
@saigedoesart
19 күн бұрын
@@piratorium ooh right, thanks for the info👍 plane probably just loves how Jojo acts messy now 😂
I don't understand people acting surprised that Jane isn't the "icon" that they think she is. She showed y'all her true colors when she was going after Amanda during her season. Y'all should've believed her then.
I'm loving this season of All Stars. I feel that the queens are doing better without the pressure of being sent home. I just hope that Shannel wins some badges before this whole season ends
The top 2 was split because this fandom can't give Nina any credit when she does well.
The slap skit seemed inspired by an Australian TV show Open Slather, The Slap.
This is so one sided LMAOOOOOOOO I know she was dealing with backlash from people but this is really one sided
Unfortunately this feels misogynistic
@gayfield420
26 күн бұрын
gasp a cis gay man being misogynistic??
@Ohhhwehere
26 күн бұрын
sadly allot of gay men are
@quackson3930
26 күн бұрын
Shocker lol
@MadameButterfli
25 күн бұрын
@@gayfield420 craaaazy lol
my phone got stolen while watching this video and hearing my headphones disconnect as the dude got away during the have your say poll was a very unearthly and dismaying feeling besties
@MeanGreenMachine_
21 күн бұрын
omg sorry girl
That predator knows that we stop talking about her
Plane is so out of touch here.
I love plane LMFAO
Someone get Amanda to open for Chapell NOWWWWW
Chappell made a big deal of hiring local queens to open for her show in my city, then fired them and replaced them 2-3 days before the show. I don’t know if she has a history of doing that, but it wasn’t great.
Plastique looked beautiful - but how did she fit the runway brief? I understand it was a ceremonial garb from her culture... but it's not giving the category.
@babs_babs
25 күн бұрын
i think the colors are traditionally associated with funerals in vietnam
Plane Jane really is a mean girl. I watched the episode of Hey Qween where she was featured. I don't care how many girls that she's Good Judy's with. Yes, I think she's talented, but there's nothing about her that I would miss.
Zzzplane'z one eighty is hilarious 🤣😂just a mess. Performative? wth is he talking about,...she's a performer.
Who is Plane?
They need to retire the blocking aspect or rework it because blocking did not pay off this season... At least in terms of blocking someone from a win
Roxxxy is such a hypocrite 😂😭 and so dramatic
I love Plain Jane but this is not it. Stop worrying about what other people are doing and focus on your own.
imo this season isn't boring because no one is getting eliminated- I like seeing a all the Queens every week. but, I think it's boring because everyone is afraid of how the online audience will react to every single thing they say so they're all acting instead of being themselves.
Angeria and Vanjie were my favorites this week! Nina's acting was fabulous, but her runway was not my favorite.
Angeria shoulda snipped Plastique fr fr. She’s the obvious choice in the lead
I think people probably didn't agree with the top two because fans put a lot of weight on the runway. Not me, but I see people doing that.
Commenting for the algorithm
Like chappel or not, comparing roan to season 5 promo jinkx is cruel and uncalled for. No one deserves that.
Blocking someone w the same amt of badges seems silly to me. What if Ru does what she did last time. Given queens a chance to win multiple badges. Gon wish they'd blocked those w more. 🙄
No subtitles :(
NGL Roxxie's makeup gets darker each episode. Her makeup is now darker than angeria's
plane jane manages to outdo Q and becomes the most hated queen of season 16, that is talent if you ask me
Im so used to hearing your voice and not seeing your face. You're so handsome!!!!!!!
DID ANYONE WATCH THE SHOW?! I feel like I’m taking CRAZY pills
Plane Jane, who’s that
Shannel's performance in this challenge was cringy. I understand she was trying to be dramatic, but she kept doing this weird thing with her mouth.
idk what planes deal is. i cant seem to wrap my head around why she HAS to be hateful. a kiki is one thing but seeing a queer artist pay homage to drag culture and acting that way is nuts. chappell has BEEEEEEN doing this. since 2020 she has been doing extravagant outfits and sort of opening up her own box of drag. have we learned nothing
Daaaah obviously it’s angoria who going to win take the promo picture as a clue if you don’t know RPDR , not a “fan “ of her but this is what will happen
Hopefully you will address farrah calling out Trinity for transph@bic comments 🙏🏼
pffff....please! Plane Jane was the most fake in her reason. And that says a lot XD
it’s Chappell, like lapel 😅
Whos plain jane again? I cant remember her anymore.
Angeria's acting is alwaaaaaays the same....
@yupitsjessbbyx3
26 күн бұрын
Thats a bit of the case for all of the queens.
@saigedoesart
25 күн бұрын
I disagree I think her performance in the Estate Agency challenge was different from this one I guess its because its always comedy it can come across as one note
Basically, she’s an artist who loves drag and drag race. That’s all.
Idk why but i feel like plane trys play this villian from those cheesy shwos like scooby doo ill get you next time being campy but seems fake to me plus when people do question her she plays it off as a joke or oh dont take me so serious
She has a point. Chappell Roan calls herself 'Your favourite artist's favourite artist' bc of Sasha Colby and said that in an instagram story, but now it's been on Jimmy Fallon and she's profiting off of Sasha Colby's phrase. And the tea is, Sasha Colby IS your favourite drag queen's favourite drag queen, Chappell Roan is not your favourite artist's favourite artist.
@Ms.taacky
25 күн бұрын
She literally credited Sasha Colby for that...wtf are you even talking about?
@CarissaEllyn
24 күн бұрын
“But now it’s been on Jimmy Fallon” you mean the when she said it was based on Sasha Colby?
@MaeBeeNott
24 күн бұрын
Sasha isn't bothered so why are you?
@freyasq1218
24 күн бұрын
@@Ms.taacky she's making money off of it and co-opted a trans drag queen's phrase for that. A lot of these artists dabble in drag for the fun and the spectacle, then make their coin from it and move on. It's transparent to me
@CarissaEllyn
22 күн бұрын
@@freyasq1218she’s had drag queens in both her pink pony club AND hot to go videos. She has had drag queens open for her for years. She supports local drag. She gives money to charities that help trans people. Just say you don’t like her music, but research before you say this because you sound ignorant.
I also got weird performative vibes from her
@amediasres
25 күн бұрын
ssshhh They’re going to come for you next 🫢
@fresitaale
25 күн бұрын
delusion
@katedix5248
25 күн бұрын
Just being devils advocate, but from what I've learnt about Chappell Roan in the 3 weeks since I discovered her, is she's not been doing her drag for very long, so am guessing she's still a bit uncomfortable with sharing that side of her? Plus she's blown up, which I can only guess would be hella stressful and anxiety inducing
@kaheivi
25 күн бұрын
@@katedix5248she’s had drag performers open for her shows for quite a while now even before she blew up. i think she was doing a show in the uk? when a drag queen who was opening for her had said to chappell that she is in fact a drag queen and she says that’s when she felt comfortable calling herself one.
@CarissaEllyn
25 күн бұрын
How/why?
Oh my god, like, can we talk about Plastique Tiara's runway looks on RuPaul's Drag Race All-Stars 9? I mean, they are totally gorgeous and, like, so well made, but seriously, how many times is she gonna play the "culture card"? It's like, we get it, your heritage is important and all, but can we get some variety, please? The judges are, like, never gonna criticize a cultural look because, hello, who wants to be called a racist? But honestly, it's getting super tiring and predictable as the season goes on. Mix it up, girl!
@vanessawhitneypro
26 күн бұрын
Interesting... Same things were said about Nymphia... "Cultural" or not... Her looks (makeup & fashion) are NEXT LEVEL... Periodt.
@acreepingplant
26 күн бұрын
Have you ever thought about all the young asian queers desperately seeking for representation on mainstream TV? Plastique is doing that for them. Not to mention, she has not repeated a concept once and there is still SO MUCH MORE to her culture than what is being shown. If the looks are gorgeous and non-repetitive while also conveying a clear message, that is the end of the story. The fact that you can’t appreciate someone displaying and being proud of culture-inspired fashion speaks to how shallow your perception is of anything that is not heavily influenced by the western world.
@imalittlejuicebox7367
26 күн бұрын
What about Plastique's looks were similar and how is it different from Gottmik always using a white foundation in her makeup?
@Name-uv6kz
26 күн бұрын
variety? she doesn't just do runways based on her Viet culture though she also did runways based on other Asian cultures along with the futuristic themed outfits.
@bakad5458
25 күн бұрын
yall this is just a bot or some troll saying the same thing just ignore
Yup, I said the same thing as Plane and all my fellow lgbtq+ members lost their minds.
@chibitea1803
26 күн бұрын
I did tooooo, it just felt weird, especially when she was using sasha colby's iconic catchphrase as her own...
@nightwalker7937
26 күн бұрын
how is her love for drag performative tho? idgi
@corgeousgeorge
26 күн бұрын
@chibitea1803 she then gave credit to Sasha but only after ppl called her out online. But she did mention it on the tonight show so that's a pretty big deal.
@quackson3930
26 күн бұрын
@@chibitea1803 y'all don't get to chose lol, Chappelle is queer point blank period, the discussion is over she has every rights to participate in a queer artform so shut the fuck up
@CarissaEllyn
24 күн бұрын
Yall are delusional and don’t know anything about her. She has drag queens open for her and she had meatball and pork chop in her music video from years ago. People reference ppl all the fucking time. She loves drag and started calling herself a drag queen after another drag queen said she was one. Ffs leave women alone.
I don't understand this idea if gatekeeping Chappell Roan. Her Fanbase is attacking straight people for buying her tickets during Pride Month. And now she can even call herself a "Drag Queen"? I respect Plane Jane's work but her personality is becoming rotten. It's kinda weird that Plane was against Chappell Roan for identity as Drag Queen. But once Chappell Roan goes her way to uplift Plane Jane, Plane Jane is all foward? Sounds fishy.
I'm on Team Plane. Catsup Rower is totally going to go reveal she's got weird stances on autism or vaccines like Sia did and everyone is going to pretend they never stanned for her.
@CarissaEllyn
24 күн бұрын
Why do you think that?
@thebumpercar1344
24 күн бұрын
@@CarissaEllyn : She gives me the same vibes Sia did right before her first or second breakdown. I'm not the only one who thinks so - Swell Entertainment made a video about "The Dangers of Fast Fame" where Cactus and Sia's careers and fame get compared too.
@MaeBeeNott
24 күн бұрын
So you are for tearing down a rising pop star for the perceived vibes that she might do something problematic in the future? Fascinating
@thebumpercar1344
24 күн бұрын
@@MaeBeeNott : Tearing down? Nah, I'm saying I don't like her, and that's my opinion, and everyone calling her mother is making the call too damn early. I don't like Lana del Rey either, and Capricorn Rebus gives me "Lana but LESBO" vibes.
@MaeBeeNott
24 күн бұрын
@@thebumpercar1344 yeah it's okay to not like her, but Plane saying that her support of drag is "performative" is very much an attempt to tear her down. Calling into question her sincerity is mean spirited when it comes out of nowhere with such a lack of proof.
Plain said nothing wrong.
@CarissaEllyn
24 күн бұрын
And neither did the people who responded to the tweet
@populuxe1
24 күн бұрын
@@CarissaEllyn Cry harder
@CarissaEllyn
22 күн бұрын
@@populuxe1awww mature ❤
@populuxe1
22 күн бұрын
@@CarissaEllyn We're talking about RPDR. Maturity doesn't come into it, only drama and shade.