Plane Approaches Too Low
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Asiana Boeing 777 parallel approach into San Francisco
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Hong Kong Airlines Airbus A330 pilot induced oscillations on landing
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F-18 fighter jets refueling during low pass
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Business jet nearly suffering wing strike on landing
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Asiana and SFO have a.... uh... complicated relationship.
@Glegh
Жыл бұрын
Especially in 777s
@NoName-jl7gs
Жыл бұрын
Dont really understand why they‘re not performing a simple ILS approach like everywhere else in the world… 🤷🏻♂️
@waqasusmans
Жыл бұрын
Yes, Captains Win Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong can attest to that
@Interdictiondeltawing
Жыл бұрын
@@waqasusmans and that Ho Lee Fuk pilot
@tallguygarage3627
Жыл бұрын
@@waqasusmansdon't forget bang ding ow
Asiana and SFO, the low approaches and everything. The bond is unreal
@danielmarcotorrente4437
Жыл бұрын
hahahaha yes
@oly.mp4
Жыл бұрын
+ the same 777 type, being a 777-200
@mrgone658
Жыл бұрын
I hope they learned their lesson.
@CaptainTNTxD
Жыл бұрын
It got me clicken when I saw it
@stereoroid
Жыл бұрын
same *runway* as well = 28L
777 instructor here. The Asiana 777 looks to me to be on glideslope and actually touches down a little long.
@johnliam3041
Жыл бұрын
Carpet cleaner here. You took the words right out of my mouth
@triple777seven
Жыл бұрын
777 fan here, do you know of any scholarships/sponsors willing to fund my dream to fly?
@davidkeasal6542
Жыл бұрын
To ask those looking for a scholarship, it varies from country to country. I have heard that there are scholarships in Canada for Canadians. Other than that, check in your own country. Frankly, though, I'm very much out of touch with the primary training possibilities.
@triple777seven
Жыл бұрын
@@davidkeasal6542 noted🙏
@deankruse2891
Жыл бұрын
video game player here, i could have landed in half the runway length.
That finnish man cursing about forgetting headphones at 2:40 😂
@cerovk6000
2 ай бұрын
Lol
Asiana was just fine the whole time. The reason it looked lower is because it was farther ahead, so it had to be lower in order to make the touchdown zone, which it did.
@Daniel-go6ci
Жыл бұрын
SFO 28L also has a 2.85 degree glide slope instead of the normal 3.00 as on 28R.
@sussertheoriginal
Жыл бұрын
I had to look again. That's what causes the illusion.
@imkeerock
Жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-go6ci great catch! That would make the other plane look even lower.
@cflyin8
Жыл бұрын
The parallel approaches at SF require one airplane to be the lead plane, so the other aircraft can keep them in sight and maintain visual separation. Here the Asiana plane was ahead and lower so the Virgin America Airbus was following. Pretty impressive that the 777’s VREF is so close to the A319/320/321 (whatever Airbus model that was).
@effewe2
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
The Asiana landing was buttery smooth, as if it was a challenge not to wake up the baby sleeping in row 20.
@sir_john_hammond
Жыл бұрын
Nah, the baby was busy crying at the top of their lungs already due to air pressure changes.
@RehanDean
Жыл бұрын
PFFFFFFTTTTT🤣🤣🤣
@drpaine7428
Жыл бұрын
smooth is not what you want out of a landing, that's how you run out of runway. You want the pilot to stick the landing at the beginning of the runway
@jicklesjingles8134
Жыл бұрын
@@drpaine7428 exactly!
@samrapheal1828
Жыл бұрын
@@drpaine7428 Exactamondo 💯
Nothing wrong with the Asiana approach. It's definitely not "too low".
Asiana flight was hella smooth. If I was a passenger on the row seats, I would've never known we had landed.
Didn't look to me like they were low but daaaaamn that was a smooth landing. I think taxiing to the gate was probably bumpier than that landing.
@michaelerb9143
Жыл бұрын
Greased it. Barely any tire smoke.
@alm4132
Жыл бұрын
Southwest pilots take note!
@mr.verification9993
Жыл бұрын
@@alm4132 Southwest pilots don't have gear tilt and 12 wheels.
@alm4132
Жыл бұрын
@@mr.verification9993 Got excuses though!!!
@mr.verification9993
Жыл бұрын
@@alm4132 It's not a plane meant to be buttered. There's a reason you're unemployed.
"Too low" is what happened on July 6, 2013. This was somewhere between "low" and "perfectly normal", probably closer to the latter.
@BombFruitReal
9 күн бұрын
Renember the number, 214……
Excellent clips! The first demonstrates buttering the runway, the second shows years of expertise, and the third displays precision flying.
@bayly1977
Жыл бұрын
Years of experience 😂😂😂 he absolutely butchered the landing and deceleration
@MoveoverAndbark
Жыл бұрын
I checked and "buttering the runway" is an expression ( love Urban Dictionary )...but before I checked, I thought of "Last Tango in Paris"/Maria Schneider....
@woozy7405
Жыл бұрын
Thanks I did them all
I’ve definitely had a much “lower” landing at SFO. Coming in from Monterey in rough weather, at night, with heavy fog. Broke through the fog in time to see dark water right under the wing, gasp, and then hit tarmac, all in the span of a single second.
Looked like a super smooth landing to me
@R2Bl3nd
Жыл бұрын
The problem is, a super low approach like that is not safe. I forget the exact reasons why but they need to be within the glide path or else there's various issues that could happen. Like if there was a sudden downward gust of wind, it's better to be higher up when the plane isn't over the runway.
@MadeInGreatBritain
Жыл бұрын
@@R2Bl3nd fair point!
@marvinidler2289
Жыл бұрын
@@R2Bl3nd Or engine failure/bird strike on final. If too low you may not reach the runway.
@jonathanm9436
Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It might have been on the lower side (although I think visual parallax from the higher plane was more likely), but it was stabilised the whole way in and hit right on the aiming markers.
@MadeInGreatBritain
Жыл бұрын
(I’d rather have been on that plane than the second one 🤣)
That's so cool how the Asiana plane was lower in altitude the entire time yet they both touched down at the same time.
@Volvo_EG
Жыл бұрын
Probably because the Asiana was just a couple of hundred feet in front and therefore lower. Is would say at the same distance to airport they probably had the same height.
@redwoodcactusnorthwest5219
Жыл бұрын
@@Volvo_EG It’s not just perception. You are partly correct. But even when completely abeam, the 28R airplane is usually slightly higher than 28L traffic. This is because the 28L PAPI is set up at 2.85 degrees, 28R is set up for 3.00 degrees.
@sailaab
Жыл бұрын
Redwood Cactus Northwest 👍🏼
@Silo-Ren
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, had a similar experience flying into Dallas one time except that it was flight with about 60 drunken guy's from NYC on our way to see the Giants play the Cowboys. But is was funny as heck as they were all yelling and rooting for our plane to touch down first. Lol. 😂
@stevorules1820
Жыл бұрын
@@Silo-Ren that sounds like the most epic flight ever lol.
I think this is one of the best 3MA I've seen yet. Thank you!
So I agree with most of the comments, he doesn't look low to me in fact he seems to be the same approach height as the plane where the video was taken. Looks like a beautiful approach to me.
That was a buttery 777 landing!
That wasn't refueling... that's how you get baby F-18s. Nature sure is amazing!
@Boss_Tanaka
Жыл бұрын
Don’t be ridiculous. It s an F18 towing an other F18
@skydiverclassc2031
Жыл бұрын
@@Boss_Tanaka Next time don't park in the handicapped zone.
@stephen_cs
Жыл бұрын
A hell of a lot cheaper too
@diambo4life
3 ай бұрын
lmao
3:11min!!! Thank you for 11 more seconds of Aviation - we are back in business now 😁
Landing in SFO is always interesting because you feel like the plane is about to ditch in the water.
@lbowsk
11 ай бұрын
Funny, I never feel like that.
I love being in a plane on SFO approach on a nice day. Always awesome to watch dual landings. Only thing better would be a triple wide at ATL..
@CaptainGoldberg
Жыл бұрын
We've got some triple wides in ATL. You don't want to be stuck in between them on a long flight.
@ThunderSong
Жыл бұрын
the view at night is unreal also. Especially with a full moon on all the water
@MoveoverAndbark
Жыл бұрын
so you like threeways? I would rather have planes do their own thing in safe distance zones, and I'm sure they all did/would, but that's my ignorance/precaution talking to myself...
LOVED The Dual Landings at the very beginning! On a side note, I was sweating bullets not seeing your "Plane" on the Kiosks for Times of Video Arrivals in my KZread Mailbox!🤣 Glad you all made it safely! Cheers From The Clouds In Ohio To ALL Who Fly With 3 Minutes Of Aviation!
@CapStar362
Жыл бұрын
one day someone, if not me as i live in ATL, will get a three wide landing video - KATL has 3 Parallel landing runways. 9R/27L, 8L/26R and 10/28 you can see that on ADSB all the time as well.
@TheStuport
Жыл бұрын
@@CapStar362 Appreciate your response and heads up info CapStar! Cheers From The Concourse In COW-lumbus, Ohio MOO
That first clip of parallel landings was sublime poetry in flight- ahhh! Thanks filmer, poster and hoster.
Video title: Plane is too low! First frame of the video: Actually it's perfect!
That 777 buttered the landing - nice!
I love watching the parallel ILS into Atlanta. Looks pretty similar without the water
Fantastic!
as a pilot myself, that Asiana’s approach was perfectly fine
Love that approach into SFO.. double landed many times there.
Me at first: Asiana 214?!
@RCPlaneBuilder2005
Жыл бұрын
Same
@Dylan-jj8xc
Жыл бұрын
Yu So Dum
@Kuswara1947
Жыл бұрын
Damn i think its the second same incident :v
That first shot is awesome 👍
The 1st landing looks awesome! I couldn't have done any better! (By the way I'm not pilot)
@sanddabz5635
Жыл бұрын
But do you play one on TV?
@robertgriffin662
Жыл бұрын
@@sanddabz5635 why yes, I do but tell anyone! Ha!
@sanddabz5635
Жыл бұрын
@@robertgriffin662 😂
The Asiana landing looked perfect!!
The approach into SFO is about as close us regular passengers will get to an aircraft carrier type landing. (Much larger scale at SFO.) Water, water, water, water, land and touchdown.
@icollectstories5702
Жыл бұрын
Except for the sea wall.☹
@pushslice
Жыл бұрын
I actually think OAK just a handful of miles away is a better example. Just my own eyeballs, but the distance from water to runway threshold seems to be a few feet shorter (and it’s from both approaches , not just approaching 280*)
Sensationalist/deceitful title for a perfect approach and landing!
That wing strike landing looked like it was just dropping vertically, like a helicopter. Great angle.
great filming by the passenger in the chase plane at SFO!
@verifiedtoxicangel2411
Жыл бұрын
"Filming ?"....i wish film was used like back in the day, but i dont think so time to retire that word i guess...
Damn that asiana 777 had an absolute buttery smooth landing
I don't think that Asiana flight had a low approach. It was obviously ahead and thus probably it was low. I feel like the approach was perfect.
I've flown virtually every kind of approach and most of the time been able to hit the touchdown zone just right. What makes you question yourself is when you fly a text. Book picture perfect approach and completely mess that zone or land hard. Landings are the best reason to fly.
The fact it's an Asiana 777 doing a low approach at SFO is... ironic to say the least.
@AFootballFan10
Жыл бұрын
Wait no no no no no I don’t like where this is going
@starguy2718
Жыл бұрын
@@AFootballFan10 Sum Ting Wong
@n666eo
Жыл бұрын
It wasn't a low approach however.
@tommcglone2867
Жыл бұрын
@@starguy2718 Wi Tu Low Ho Lee Fuk Bang Ding Ow
@DeathByPancake7
Жыл бұрын
@@n666eo The public eat up his videos.
Beautiful parallel touchdown 🫶🏼
People who know Asiana flight 214 💀
@sharkie719mm2
2 ай бұрын
Bang ding ow 💀💀
@planespotterronish
2 ай бұрын
Who doesn't know?
@크라스카001
2 ай бұрын
💀
@pro_aviationPl
2 ай бұрын
@@planespotterronish👍
@brianjohnson3444
Ай бұрын
That's the first thing that came to my mind.
Awesome. Really great clips. Thanks and thanks to those who captured.
1:57 - David Attenborough: "And here we see up in the sky two hornets performing a mating ritual midflight. Quite extraordinary."
2:15 As a pilot, we are not supposed to land with the “crab angle” like that. We’re supposed to put in the corrective rudder input (right rudder in this case) at the last moment. This is why, the sudden grab of the tires, and the top-over rolling force from the wind can do this.
Everyone talking about the Asiana Airlines landing, but noone talking about that HK Airlines freak landing! That took really sick skills.
@lbowsk
11 ай бұрын
There was actually very little skill on display. That was pathetic.
@cesarrinconmayorga5309
11 ай бұрын
@@lbowsk Landing safely is never ever pathetic.
@aydinsoy
3 ай бұрын
(B777 captain here) I normally hesitate to talk bad about colleagues. But the Hong Kong Airlines pilot unnecessarily applied too much right rudder after landing, and then tried to correct things with a huge rudder input to the left (into the wind -which you normally would never ever do!). Unfortunately it’s solely a case of pilot induced oscillations on the rollout. In fact, I’m quite surprised, that most comments were about the perfectly normal approach of Asiana to SFO instead.
Asiana 777 absolutely buttering the bread with that approach/landing
I have been on that exact approach to SFO. I will admit it is unsettling to get so close to the water with no runway in sight, but then such a relief once the land shoots into frame from underneath.
At no time did that plane look to low to me🤷
He did not approach it too low, he was just that good😎
That was such a beautiful touch down
1:19 i once landed on schiphol in a klm 777 in a storm on my way back from NYC. We where weaving side to side. I can only imagine how it looked on the outside
0:16 Asians 214 vibes
OMG!! It was soooo low that it landed in the end! Was that intended?
Nice to spot this approach!
That was one of the smoothest boeing 777 landings I’ve ever seen!
2:45 I would go to that race only for that
They almost recreated Asiana 214💀💀💀
There was absolutely nothing wrong with that Asiana landing - buttery smooth. Well done.
Great shot of The Peninsula in the San Francisco Bay Area in that first video… The sun shines way more beautiful in California!
0:21 landing for real almost together
asia almost nailed it perfectly... nothing too low
I remember when I sub to you u where at 300 follower I knew you would get more than 100 k congrats
Awesome video!
That wasn’t low, it was PERFECT
That first one was a very smooth and comfortable landing for the passengers
0:30 That plane reminds me of Asiana Airlines flight 213...
@Unknown_522
2 ай бұрын
*214
@dylananddenlangaming1
2 ай бұрын
@@Unknown_522 got it
that's a perfectly executed PRM approach on 28L + R at KSFO! 28L has a straight in ILS, while 28R has a 3°right of centerline offset and a >3° glideslope
@johnaclark1
Жыл бұрын
Wrong, wrong and wrong. First, PRM approaches are no longer available at SFO. Even if they were, these are obviously visual approaches (clear blue sky) and PRM approaches would still have the airplanes staggered further apart. Both ILS's are straight down the runways at 284 degrees. 28L has a 2.85 degree glideslope while 28R has 3.0 degree glideslope. The 2.85 degree glideslope is why Aisiana looked lower...it's because he was and was supposed to be.
That was the smoothest landing anyone has ever made at SFO.
2:54 anybody else see the helicopter in front of the nose, but 1000 feet up above 787
@3xceIIent
Жыл бұрын
Yes! I think that helicopter pilot probably shit his pants.
I think you've become the best youtuber - not from reposting other people's aviation clips, but with false and misleading headlines. That's no easy feat, good job!
That asiana landing was awesome🔝 💯 🔥
Looks perfect to me. Very smooth, more should be like that.
@williamburke8242
Жыл бұрын
My dad and I have the same color circle like yours.
Asiana and SFO is just a terrifying combination, just like Air Canada and well.. SFO
That plane from the first clip wasn't "too low". It wasn't any lower than the other plane (from which it was recorded). Well, it WAS slightly lower but only because it was slightly ahead on descend. The second plane would be at the same altitude but like a second later. You can see that their touchdowns were on the same point of their corresponding runways
This reminds me of when I went on holiday. I was on a BA a320-200 and there was a321 landing parallel
Too low? That looked legit
Big rudder on the Hong Kong airlines landing 😐
@DavidWsTrainVideos
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t wanted to be in the back of that plane
So it wasn’t too low
The San Fran landing looked spot on to me.
Silky smooth first landing !
Honestly I'm just happy there wasn't a repeat of asiana airlines flight 214 (on the same airport too)
We landed at SFO in a 737. We passed a lower flying 747 on our final approach. However, by the time we were really close to landing, the 747 passed us, landing slightly ahead of us. Very strange!
@LuizHartkopf
Жыл бұрын
747 is heavier and has a higher landing speed than the 737
@ultimaterelaxation6022
Жыл бұрын
What he said☝
@jefftynan9274
Жыл бұрын
@@LuizHartkopf Not always. The 737-900 often has landing speeds higher than a 747.
@AA-tz2bm
10 күн бұрын
@@jefftynan9274well it is a pencil after all
that was a butter smooth landing at a normal height, i praise the pilots for that nice landing
2:20 I almost felt a sympathetic tummy tickle just watching that! 😮
Though it was gonna be a recreation of Asiana 214 flight (the First one)
That first one was not Asiana 214 🤦♂️
thats pretty darn smooth touch down
Thanks for your sharing
Asiana avoiding the SFO sea wall is genuinely newsworthy
That airline has learned not to get behind the power curve and low going into SFO. The SWA may have been a bit high to remain above any wake turbulence that might have rolled over into their glide path, also, even though they weren't that far behind the B772.
@kuhoku9268
Жыл бұрын
Wasn't a swa, this is an old video as the plane the video belongs to is a Virgin America A320
That Hong Kong Airlines A330 looked like it was drifting for a few seconds there.
@StephenHogan
Жыл бұрын
🎶DEJA VU!! 🚗
@ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid
Ай бұрын
@@StephenHogan Never felt this much wind before. (sliding on concrete) And now I know it's time to slow. (calling you) And the surface is slippery. (drifting skills are leet) It's so hard when I try to taxi. Whooooooa! 🤟😆🤟
The Asiana 777 landing 🛬 at SFO in video is just fine. That was how Asiana 214 was suppose to execute the landing 🛬 back in 2013, when it crashed 💥 landed 🛬 .
Asiana was not “too low”…. The parallel aircraft was behind by enough distance that at normal descent rates the trailing aircraft would be about 75 ft higher, which it was.
@brianwilson8983
Жыл бұрын
Yep, ILS PRM approach. These videos are deceiving
@efoxxok7478
Жыл бұрын
@@sg-yq8pm another wonderful person who can’t argue facts so goes straight to name calling.
2:23 Oh no, the centerline is on fire!
Amazing similiar work by both pilots touching down probably within 100ft or so of eachother on the runways!
What a superb touchdown
lets not talk about what happened on that runway 10 years ago
Hey, at least this time, Asiana actually cleared SFO's seawall. So they have that going for them, which is nice.