I played Warmachine from the beginning, but gave it up a few years back when it became more heavily focussed on the tournament scene. The final straw for me was when I organised a casual game at my local club, the opponent turned up and told me he was using his tournament list for practice. The game was over in two turns. On the flip side, the P3 paints really are as good as people say. The bottle lids would fall apart at the merest hint of a stiff breeze, but everything else about them was/is great. Amusingly, it was one of the first cases of 'GW painter jumps ship and starts paint line elsewhere'. In this case it was Mike McVey.

@chriskoeder1229

2 ай бұрын

It was at peak popularity during MK 2 especially earlier on when they were leaning heavily into the tournament scene.

@toferkrz946

2 ай бұрын

Even when the lid fell off the little plastic hinge, just pushing it on the bottle would result in a better seal than GW paints. I bought some Formula P3 all the way back in mk1 days and some of them are still going...

@AndrewMcColl

2 ай бұрын

@@toferkrz946 sadly, my lids cracked. I should have transferred them to dropper bottles, but hey ho.

@WillSpengler

2 ай бұрын

​@@AndrewMcCollHave a look at Black Hat Miniatures. They sell the Coat d Arms paints. But they are also manufactured my HMG (who make/made P3). Black Hat also sell replacement lids that fit the P3 bottles :-)

@Manlio.Cipullo

Ай бұрын

competitive play always ruins game communities and rulesets. GW games are the worst on this regard...

I'm excited that it could be a renaissance for the Iron Kingdoms

I feel like this is a good thing for the Iron Kingdoms ip. Warmachine & Hordes is the only miniature wargame I've ever played or cared about

Super excited to see where this is going! The new announcement of the 2 player kit looks like a great starting point for new comers.

I’ve been collecting mkiv Warmachine just because I love the new sculpts for a few months now but this makes me excited for better distribution to revive the game

P3 when it first came out and for well over a decade was simply the best paint available. Through the 2024 lens and as much of a p3 stan as I am... army painter and ak have seriously narrowed that gap. In fact they have been my goto in the absence of P3 because they are both carried locally. Yes, Other paint lines are around today that are as good and in some cases slightly better than p3. But as i would have to online order them and that undermines my LGS. So I avoid them unless i am doing a commission paint job and the client supplies those paints. I will happily start using p3 paints again once they are available locally. My reserve stock of my favorite colors are almost exhausted. Like I am completely out of p3 reds. So i am using AK reds. What I miss most from p3 are the flesh tones and unique metallics. Like blighted gold and the platinum, I think it is radiant platinum. But it took inks so well and was a nice highlight for any metallic.

Warmahordes used to sell well here in Australia, then a small distributor managed to get exclusive rights, and stuffed around LGS's to the point they no longer stocked it. Adding the bad reputation of Mk III's release, army bloat, and Privateer Press over expanding their business, things didn't go well. It was a great game though, well structured, and designed for tournament play to be balanced. There was also great lore, which evolved with with each addition/expansion. Having prices be based off the US dollar, and not regionalised with nonsensicle pricing, was also a major plus. As for P3 paints, they are great in general, and had a lot of unique colours in their day. Not sure what PP still owns at this stage, other than Monsterpocalype.

At least the P3 paints will be slightly easier to get in the UK. Also just to say what makes the paints great is that they blend so easily and due to the way they're made, I believe, they work really well with wet and 2-brush blending. Worth using if you get a chance to.

I'm a heavily lapsed Warmachine player, and Warmachine's been dead where I live for some time. It was once a popular substitute for Warhammer, but it's faded away. Worst case scenario, this kills it even deader than it already was. Best case, it increases distribution and revitalizes it. I know a lot of people are mad at Steamforged for their treatment of Guild Ball, so I'm leaning towards pessimism here.

I've recently been putting all of my paints into color diaries for reference. And the P3 paints, which I had regulated to bottom draw, are turning out to be some of the better lines. Great coverage(for the most part), flows great from the brush, and really vibrant colors. Reminds me a lot of the old flip top hex bottle GW paints from the earyl/mid 90's.

Great video! I've recently gotten into Privateer Press' products after finding out the company is local to me. Picked up a number of models and most of the paint line. The paints are my current go to at the moment, and I really love the sculpts. Ironically, I also started looking at Steamforged games, and bam here's a buyout lol. Funny how life times things. Really curious what they are going to do with the lines. I would guess they will probably put the paints in dropper bottles, maybe have an iteration with some more opacity for some colors, and yeah, maybe a Contrast style paint. Will say that I quite like their inks and washes, so I'd be down for a Contrast style product. Curious to see if this will revitalize both companies products. Thanks for your time and the vid! Have a good one!

I have lots of Cygnar and Trollbloods. The shift with MkIV killed the game for me. Bring back MkIII and I'll come back.

Warmachine is such a fun game. I think you would really like it Kirioth. There are also some awesome monsters and machines in the univers! :D

P3 paints are solid. I have loved WM since they first came out and held onto all my stuff, despite it dying off where I live. Hope it comes back. Hopefully they'll do a good job cleaning it up and making it accessible and easier to get info on as well. The current website iteration is no help at all.

I just hope warmachine players can enjoy the game again. It got a following at my game store, and it fell off a cliff when the debacle happened. I thought it looked cool, but didn’t appeal to me personally. I also didn’t care for the p3 metallics, but maybe the rest of the line was great. Let’s hope those former fans can have fun again.

Ah, the two companies that both got the golden ticket but then threw it all away, together at last. It's like poetry, it rhymes.

@MrNorthvlog

2 ай бұрын

What did do steam forge?

@foreverfornever1124

2 ай бұрын

@@MrNorthvlog They got rid of guild ball because it became too competitive due to the fan base making it so. Players were asking for more when SFG had no desire to continue it or update rules when things were meta broken. It was never meant to be a competitvely serious game, thats never been SFG goal with the games they make. Its why they have stayed away from those types of games over the years and just stick to board games

@Prouncer007

2 ай бұрын

@@foreverfornever1124 What do you think their reasoning is for buying WM then? One would think this would be the very last game in the world they would want if they don't like competitive play.

@foreverfornever1124

2 ай бұрын

@@Prouncer007 Well guild ball was during a time they were still finding their footing in the table top scene. Now a decade later after many succesful kickstarters and later popular board games, I think they are now considering actually entering the competitive scene. I think they have clarvoyance enough, very aware of how big even skirmish games are becoming nowadays and want to tap into that market more, now with the experienced PP. PP have full authority of the rules for their games, while SFG continues its ventures as well as providing the models, now paints, and any other game accessories is a match made in heaven as PP always had issues with production, as well as distribution. I almost wanna say, give it a few years and we may see guild ball make its return with PP handling rules for long term competitive play

From someone inside the warmachine ecosystem, we (those without insider information) do not know much more information, only rummors, its said that it will be another post explaining more this Thursday(06/06/2024), so its a wait and see situation

I'm a Warmachine player since day 1 and I am actually pretty excited about it. The higher production infrastructure of Steamforged is really going to help things. Also Mk4 is awesome

I have a Hordes army that is sitting in storage. Fully painted.

A long time ago, the games product was well stocked in the UK.

I'm a huge fan of Warmachine and have played it since Mk1 - i admit I got bored of it during Mk3 - but loving the new edition again. I was hesitant of the acquisition at first - but it's starting to look like a really great thing for Warmachine as a game and community.

One company that killed their game sold it to another company that killed their game.

@an0nycat

2 ай бұрын

Two negatives make an affirmative. Although, real life is not mathematics. 😅😅

@scurige

2 ай бұрын

They cancelled a game with a difficult community, and now bought one with a worse one.

@sven8633

Ай бұрын

Haven't bought any new models since WM/Hordes 1. The points system rework from 1-2 killed the community in my area.

I wonder if this will affect the prices. Would be nice to see them make some sense. Like, some stuff is weirdly cheap, and other stuff is just bizarrely expensive.

I live Canada and for me I loved the game. Mostly played Hordes Blindwater Congregation (Voodoo Gatormen) faction. It was back in MK2 but the issue was how long it took to get models. I would place an order and 6 months later I would recieve them. So our groups hype died. MK 3 was way to complex I was told so the group never played it. With MK4 having such a slow release schedule I have been waiting to try again.

I had thought of the Warjacks as being Furnace-punk. A little like the Iron Horde in Warcraft.

WarMachine was at its best when it encouraged a competitive tournament scene and they had pressgamers to encourage growth. I know. Competitive play is not for everyone but that's when they were doing the best in sales and the community was thriving.

I like P3's metallics. Good metallic paint is always hard to find and usually always finicky.

Locally, MkIV revitalized the game and it certainly is looking a lot better now worldwide than it did after the pandemic, despite the predictable meltdown a lot of people had when a very necessary rules and model rules change happened. The main issue was that PP could not actually meet production demands, so orders took some time to come in. Hopefully this merger helps with that, as well as SFG being able to get it into shops, who despite PP's quite good margin offers have shied away from it since mid-Mk3. My impression on this deal is that it is a kinda-merger (PP does rules, production and lore development, SFG does lore development, eventually European production and likely starts talking about rules too). SFG is a very different company now than they were when they killed GB, with an entirely different revenue stream. And Matt Wilson has gotten good deals offered for selling PP in the past, so the offer here must have included something that those deals did not. I suspect it had a lot to do with SFGs history as fans of both the world and the game. Monsterpocalypse is still at PP, but I suspect that is because of the licence agreement they must have with once-Kickstarter Legend Mythic Games, who did a very successful MonPoc soft plastic boardgame Kickstarter in 2021 that was completely wrecked by rising costs of production and shipping. Those left Mythic floating around, desperately trying to finish the Kickstarters they had not delivered on and selling their own IPs to other companies. Level 7 is also at PP but that IP is essentially "finished" for the time being - the last game released for it definitely rounded off the story. So on the whole I think this will turn out to be a good thing, even if the nostalgia will get stirred when I see SFG logos on Warmachine boxes :D

I started playing Warmachine when it first came out here in the Netherlands (I think that was Warmachine 2nd edition at the time), but it didn't take off here, but I did get most of the paints and I love those. There are some really unique colours in there that still haven't been replicated. Especially Radiant Platinum and Heartfire are unique shades, and back then Cygnus Yellow (the core yellow for the "posterboy" faction was one of the best bright yellows on the market. You can find better ones now, but that one was top tier for a very long time. Their metallic paints also distinguished themselves by being very stable and having really great coverage.

I got into Warmachine/Hordes back in 2012, it was great. Smaller scale, more tactical flexibility, more planning and ‘resource management’ kind of game. Didn’t play it for long because I got into it as an alternative to GW price hikes… just in time for the average squad set going from £30 to £45 when resin replaced the metal ones…

Warmachine... wow that brings me back. I have a small Khador force still kicking around in my basement somewhere. I honestly haven't given it a ton of thought in years. Well hopefully this'll be a good move for those who still play!

Old MK I & II player that just got back in to it this last year. Warmachine is probably the second biggest miniature game in our store (just barely behind 40K). Not a huge fan of the new aesthetic, but glad I can field my old Circle models and find the game much more enjoyable than MKII (and the few games of MKIII I tried).

@snarkymcsnarkface1863

2 ай бұрын

Really? I have not touched mkiv My community imploded with the launch if mkiii, we had convinced the gaming club to give a mkiii weekend event a go just for a laugh. Then a week before the event mkiv was announced and all momentum was lost. Personally I had been waiting for something that I wanted in terms of a new army. And after ret being... umm deleted and turned into sparkley hot topic cryx. I was just out on my beloved elves Waited for trollbloods or skorne and trollbloods were just a hard nope. So waiting on the new version of skorne before I even looked at touching it. Well that and hoping PP would figure out how to run a 3d printer and cleaning station. Because those gencon models were rough... as a home print perfectly acceptable. as a retail product just no.

I have always admired Warmachine from afar but never got into table top games in my younger years and then moved to NZ so i missed out when I could afford getting involved, it’s super hard to get ahold of most wargaming gear that isn’t 40k here in NZ so to hear this bring new hope, my soul and my wallet will be happy should this work as well as it could ❤

I'm hoping Warmachine goes back to something that isn't prohibitively expensive to get into. Back in the day it was like 50 bucks for a starter set that you could play right out of the box... but now a starter set costs like 200 bucks. For one Army.

@gstellar96

2 ай бұрын

Tbf back then a starter set was 3-5 models. Your caster and your jacks/beasts. The new starter sets also have infantry, Solos, UAs. You can still pick up those warcaster/warjack sets for 80$ being more expensive because it gives you magnets and all the weapon and head options for your jacks/beasts and you can play 30 point games with just that

@toferkrz946

2 ай бұрын

To be fair, that's the story of most tabletop miniature wargames now compared to 12-15 years ago. Even with GW and 40k, Assault on Black Reach was what, 55$ on release or something thereabouts, and even Dark Vengeance was something like 100$, compared to the price of Indomitus or Leviathan nowadays...

@warpangel8879

2 ай бұрын

Another thing is the rules are completely free and all the old armies are still playable and viable in the new edition.

@Anubis2358

2 ай бұрын

Old starter set was essentially 3-4 minis. New starter set is enough to play a full game and for another $130 you can own basically FA1 of the entire faction.

@Anubis2358

2 ай бұрын

There has never been a better time to get into Warmachine. You can get basically FA1 (minus 3ish minis) of a faction for ~$330, the game rules are free in a serviceable app and the rules feel very good to play. If you're used to GW rules Warmachine is generally tighter and more based on a bell curve of results (2d6+ modifier in Warmachine vs a d6 success/fail roll with Warhammer). It's worth trying, even if all you do is download the app and use your currently owned models to proxy.

The buyout makes sense, the guys who created steamforged were very heavily into the warmachine scene beforehand and took a lot of inspiration from that into guildball. I am unfortunately less than enthused by this as I've now been burned by both companies. Steamforged with their abandonment of guildball and Privateer with their binning off of three editions worth of minis and armies. Not to mention their habit of offering cross faction armies and then binning them after people have bought in.

Damn, I haven't heard anything about Warmachine since like 2018

As an ex Warmachine player we’ll see. I do miss the Mk2 days.

I've not played Warmachine, but I've seen some of the models and think they look awesome, especially some of the walkers. If this means that I might be able to get some of them *and* GW gets some more much needed competition, then that's just awesome.

It's Steampunk! Agree, lovely aesthetic! Lack of availability, voiding my existing collection (all bought in MkIII) and extinction of local playing scene all did it for me. I fondly remember a Journeyman league (slow grow) I played and learnt a lot! I also have fond memories of playing in Germany with a small group. Oh and the time where I needed 18 on 3d6 to kill my mates caster (or I faced certain loss) and rolled it!

@warpangel8879

2 ай бұрын

I’m curious what you mean by voiding your existing collection? I’ve seen a lot of complaining about this but I don’t know if I’m not understanding as I can still play all my old armies. Can you not play your army in Mk4, or do you mean something else?

@TippedElf

2 ай бұрын

@@warpangel8879 Pretty much made all the existing models and units legacy, so not really usable with the new stuff.

@warpangel8879

2 ай бұрын

@@TippedElfI know it’s legacy but how is it not usable. Much of the old stuff has been ported into the prime format and it’s not like you can’t used the unlimited. In fact I think there was recently an unlimited tournament allowing pretty much whatever. My buddy still uses his steelhead stuff and kicks ass on the regular against the new armies. I guess new models aren’t being made for the old armies but they are still having their rules tweaked and are still very viable. That’s why I’m confused when anyone says they can’t use their old armies as they’re all still very much supported.

Warmachine has some amazing mini sculpts And the world it's based in is pretty cool. It was just the community around the game that I couldn't stand. They were so competitive and aggressive. It was not fun. I'll be curious to see if that might change.

When Privateer went to 3d printing Warmachine they said that they would be having international partners (to print minis locally) to ensure that Warmachine would be available worldwide without the barrier of international shipping from the US. This could be one of those arrangements as I had not heard of it happening to date.

Ultimately I believe this move will be great in the long run. I've been playing since the game's peak at MK2, and can tell you the fall from grace was depressing to say the least. If this will inject new life into the game, get the game better marketing and distribution, then this can only be a positive. There's been speculation about SFG switching Warmachine to their injection molded plastics like their Godtier models, personally I hope this is not the case. It sounds like this is a partnership where Privateer Press will still be developing Warmachine with SFG handling the business side of things. With that being said I don't believe SFG would have purchased the rights to the IK IP's if they intend to let the game die, logically that makes zero business sense. I am choosing to be optimistic.

Steamforged Games once did a few things... pretty well. The Dark Souls miniatures were hit/miss. They also did the Dark Souls RPG... look into how they dropped the ball there.

formula p3 is fantastic, glad to see its gonna come back, I've been hoarding my cryx bane highlight

I've heard it called magepunk and I think it's the best descriptor.

P3 paint is good. I really enjoy it for my Cygnar stuff.

I hope this means that warmachine will go back to the old style

@mattj1871

2 ай бұрын

All the way back to before the stupid armies came out, please.

IM PISSED ABOUT IT. For me it just means more delays. When I had just gotten used AND understood the current delays. I was looking forward to the new Cryx faction and was hoping to pre order it. Now no telling no telling at all when it will get released now.

More distribution! More distribution!

I’m scared this will mess up the cryx relaunch. I got into Warmachine as my first miniatures game as my friend had a whole army of Khador and I gravitated to Cryx. Then they did an End Times and cryx got left behind in MKIV. They decided to go back on it and revitalize the line, and it was supposed to launch last month which in Privateer Press terms means 2 months after. But now with the acquisition I’m a bit concerned about the timeline and potential dropping of cryx again

its acutally a really cool game i like it the old version was a bit better but seems they alow older and unlimited formats so ill still play

I have just shy of 3 playable mk3 forces. Wouldn't mind having others to play with.

One of these days I'll remember the massive volume level change between the speech and the outro... Today was not that day.

war machine is a great game with great minis but privateer press has a history of mismanaging the property to its detriment. lets hope everyone involved in this learned from their mistakes

Would be good to dig my khador force out. Also diesel punk is mad max carpocolips kind of thing. Warmachine was marketed as full metal fantasy.

@warbosswurldsmasha5414

2 ай бұрын

It has a degree of steampunk since warjacks are traditionally powered by steam engines.

I hope they distribute it better / make it more accessible and make it more affordable too… I’ve wanted to be involved with Warmachine for ages but it’s just prohibitively hard to find kits that don’t cost an arm and a leg.

Wonder if monsterpocalypse was a part of that. Always wanted to get into it but could never get anything and felt support lacking

I loved the 3.5 version of iron kingdoms. A lot more gritty than the cartoonish version now.

Want new life in the fan base? Let people print and paint. Print 3d models of official and non official miniatures, Paint for tournaments. It would encourage people who already have started armies to print and paint more new models and warjacks.

This might be good news. Privateer press hasn’t done anything with the game for years. I would love to get more war machine that isn’t old eBay metals.

@warpangel8879

2 ай бұрын

What about Mk4 stuff? They’ve made about 7 new factions in the last couple of years.

@flameknightdragon

2 ай бұрын

@@warpangel8879 those aren't doing so hot. seeing as they sold the IP.

@alasiadarthe001actual9

2 ай бұрын

⁠@@warpangel8879they might have but I’ve never seen it in the wild. My hope is it starts appearing on store shelves again. As online only It’s way too crowded an ecosystem.

Its corporate merger short term its probably good for these games, but long term if the studio loses creative control they might just lose the games completely that would be bad.

I used to play warmachine several years ago. loved the game but the community died near me. Mark 2 was a good time. I got into iron kingdoms rpg and right now I have no idea what the status of me being able to re-download the PDFs I bought is.

In unrelated news, I have a feeling my Street Master pledge will probably be delayed another year.

I am just starting to get interested in the setting and models, but the game certainly has a cetain..... reputation. The hyper-competitive focus, the assassination rules, and the fact the game is still i go you go are all barriers in attracting a bigger audience. And if you don't want to, that's fair. Lord knows there are things i once adored that, in order to attract a bigger audience, became something i no longer enjoyed. And that hurts. But id jump in with little hesitation if it had alternating activations, or got less fiddly with its placement, or changed the assassination rules. These things all seem like small changes to me on the outside, but might feel like they are the "core feeling" of the game to someone who's involved already

I really like the P3 paints... except for the horrendous bottles. They're seriously bad. Worse than the worst GW pot. Combine paint getting stuck and dried in the cap, with a flimsy plastic hinge that breaks, AND a flimsy tab you have to push to open the pot, and you'll get half the paint on your hand just attempting to open a pot older than a few months.

SFG destroyed their own successful IP Guildball so interested to see how they do with an already destroyed IP in Warhahordes

Guildball and Mk3 Warmachine player here, Privateer press fumbled the ruleset of mark 4 Warmachine and tried to force Warcaster on us in that way. Hence the decline in my area at very least. Steamforged lost my trust massively by dropping Guildball and blaming its player base for its failings, for being to competitive. (and yet they buy Warmachine, one of the most balanced competitive wargames out there. Huh? also they came crawling back after seeing how many people still played the game under a community managed system and essentially wanted to get a foot back in the door and make a quick quid) I can only hope that Warmachine gets more popular as a result, as it IS a great system, as well as having excellent models. (even if half of my current Khador force isnt actually supported in the new edition outside of thier "unlimited" format. bleh)

@flameknightdragon

2 ай бұрын

it was the players fault for guild ball. it ran into the issue the warmachine did. the hyper competitive neckbeards that made the community a toxic hell hole that chased new players away.

@toferkrz946

2 ай бұрын

@@flameknightdragon An entire community of hyper competitive neckbeards doesn't spring up on its own. Both Steamforge and Privateer cultivated that player community with their game design and marketing.

@Riandr0

2 ай бұрын

@@flameknightdragon I mean, the community driven side of it the game definitely was a better side of that coin from what I've witnessed. Still, can say its the same reason for why warmachine failed too. But on the other side of it, warhammer and other various table tops have the toxic neckbeard problem, but they seem to be doing fine despite that.

is this going to be like the Dust Tactics/Dust warfare thing where multiple companies make interchangable things for the same IP but different game systems and it just ends up as a fuster cluck? or is this just going to be a developer/producer relationship?

@blissfulbadger

2 ай бұрын

I have close to 250 Dust models... They get used as Imperial Guard for 40k now. It was an interesting game, but the constant shifting made it less enjoyable.

Haven't played Warmachine for 20 years, when it was all metal miniatures. Didn't even know Privateer is still around. So someone getting the IP means it might be available again?

Does this mean more than, like, two stores in Australia might stock P3 paint now? I really like the handful of P3s I've got, but PP apparently just had no desire (or ability?) to sell them in most places. I just hope this doesn't cause the formulation to change.

Most of my paints are P3 and they are nice and rich, but Morrow White is a pain to work with

I just hope they keep the Privateer Press logo. I mean, come on! Who doesn't love a company whose logo is a PIRATE flag?!?

Maybe I've just had awful luck with P3 paints, but all of the ones I've tried have been so watery, the pigment runs all over the place and ruins things.

It feels like steamforged games are doing production and privateer press are still developing. Lets see what actually happens though.

It’s funny that the two videos I’ve watched about a topic I know nothing about, are completely opposite. The other video was incredibly negative about it and expect this to be the death of these games at the hands of a kickstarter-happy company

I just hope they dont go the way AMG did with SW Armada and X-wing and just buy it to kill it later

I personally think this is something GW needs to look into as well, especially for manufacturing and distribution. GW just seems stretched thin these days and allowing another company the daunting task of maintaining stock and production would take a huge load off of GW. This was a smart move by PP to get their games out there more available to the public while also providing SFG a huge IP to handle distribution and model making, both things they have been excelling at for years, hense the ability to purchase huge chunks of PP property. SFG has always been pretty open with their community player bases, even confronting a very aggresive Guild Ball community and had the stones to just shut it down because the community got wayy too competitive for a game that was only ever meant to be a casual Friday night game

I lost hope at 3:00 when he said it looks like Privateer will continue to do the design work. They're why Warmachine failed. Among other things, they need to make Warmachine casual-friendly again. The hyperfocus on tournaments is what drove away potential new players.

I played a lot in 2nd Ed warmachine, 3rd Ed shat the bed from a lore point of view, and now they are selling 3D printed models at hand cast resin prices so it’s a no from me

Worse case it died. Best case is if SFG handles marketing and distribution ,while PP still has creative control and keeps to doing the rules.

PP own the MonsterPocalypse IP that the farmed to Mythic for one of those nightmare kickstarters, so if PP are somehow on the hook for that, this could be a way of SFG acquiring the company without acquiring the liability, and it won't surprise me if in 6 months, PP is no more, and the Iron Kingdoms departments are renamed SFGUS or something. Is this too cynical? It feels too cynical.

free rules, think is just one company that don´t do that

@toferkrz946

2 ай бұрын

You would be mistaken. The majority of large publishers do not give away their rules for free (ex Warlord Games, Battlefront, Osprey), only give away partial rules for free (ex Mantic, OPR) or give away free rules that are essentially worthless anyway because they have proprietary components crucial for gameplay that act as sort of DRM (ex Atomic Mass Games, Coolmini). Out of the major current publishers and games with global distribution that truly offer all their rules for free, the only one I can really think of is Para Bellum with Conquest.

I want warmachine to succeed as it is a vacuum for all the toxic tourney shitnerds. It might make ITC nonsense to die out and release 40K from its grip.

I still need to paint my Godtear stuff lmao

Who would have thunk it?

Mismanaged company acquires mismanaged IP from mismanaged company... formula M3

As a mk2 warmachine player that quit when PP blew up the community with the gong show launch of mk3... As a player of godtear and guildball... Ugh. I don't have much faith in steamforged games beyond delivering a soild game. The road map and future of a game after launch has been a bloody mess. Guildball abandoned because competitive designed game got competitive? Sorry your dev team did their jobs too well? Then the one that really grinds my gears that absolute trash support for godtear. What scares me is steamforged turning this into a kickstarter and screwing the LGS the same way they have with guildball and godtear here in North America. My closest lgs won't carry steamforged games. To get anything locally I need to drive clear across the city about a 60 minute drive to an lgs that stocks steamforged. Now a shop that is closer will order stuff in, but the delays in delivery are stupid. We are talking three to four months after the release. If we get a Warmachine kickstarter I am out and I am just done. If steamforged can get their sh t together and actually work with LGS and distribution. Treating warmachine like an actual store friendly product I will happily come back and give the game an honest look. I have zero faith in PP to do their jobs correctly as they seem.more focused on side projects rather than the main game. They pissed off every single game store in my city, only one of six game stores carries anything from PP and it is a 45 min drive from the house. When PP imploded they destroyed the good will of the owners along with the player base.

Do you want weird internal studios that arbitrarily *squat* mini ranges for their own *specialist games* ? Because this is how you get weird internal studios that arbitrarily *squat* mini ranges for their own *specialist games* .

Not surprised, but hopefully some thing comes of it the whole story will make your head spin. With the amount of poor decisions, IP violations and ego.

Several years back i fully abandoned 40k for Warmachine. I loved the more skirmish style game, the setting and the characters. I went to their major con every year, and got to befriend several of the people who worked there. A few years ago a ton of the best creative guys in the company left to form Atomic Mass games, they nuked the setting and most of the beloved characters in releasing a new edition. I wasn't impressed and walked completely away from the game.

Warwachine has some of the worst models I’ve ever put together, and I own 20 Gw Flayed ones. At least the Flayed Ones didn’t require me to go out and buy green stuff

Bahahahahahaha! 😂

I've been losing interest because they AOS'd their setting and the new stuff has left behind the steampunk aestetics and gone scifi, and it looks generic AF

@warpangel8879

2 ай бұрын

I don’t think they really AoS’d it as the story has just been advanced 10 years in lore and most if not all of the factions are still in the setting to some capacity. I mean the warjacks are all still there and they’re slowly updating most of the mainline factions from the first editions. But hey, I won’t pretend that Privateer didn’t screw up, but I think they’ve made a lot of great decisions with the game and setting since Mk3. If it’s not your taste, that’s fine of course. I just don’t think it’s entirely fair to say they did the same thing GW did to fantasy, as it’s the same world, story, and characters(and a bunch of new ones).

I just don't see this accomplishing much of anything. Warmachine is a dead game and they're trying to revive it at a time when plenty of other games have garnered dedicated fan bases. A number of those games are built on IP that people love and it can really help anchor them for the long haul. And the same is true of P3 paints. With brands like Vallejo and Army Painter doing complete reformulation of their paint lines along with new brands like 2 Thin Coats and Pro Acryl, I just don't know that P3 is going to make an impact. No doubt, there are die hard fans who will jump at the chance to buy it again but how many game stores will stock it and how many people who are already using the excellent paints already available will care?

I'm not a fan of this, considering the way steamforged cocked up Guildball and started blaming the players for wanting the game to be balanced and competetive then just axeing the game. if they just make the models and keep the ever loving fuck away from the rules then sure why not

Please make the models plastic the metal ones are so freaking annoying to put together.

@Anubis2358

2 ай бұрын

All of the currently produced minis are 3D printed, although I miss the charm of the old metal models.

Considering PP speaks to it's UK fanbase and stockists like they're trash and a burden...I doubt anyone this side of the pond will care. And nobody wants to play a game that keeps dying and costs a fortune. As for Steam forged.....well yeah. If ever there was a time to say "who? What? Huh?". A bad company and a nobody company join forces to form...a mess?

PLEASE LORD BRING WARMAHORDES BACK I DON'T WANT TO PLAY 40K ANYMORE IT'S SO SHITE