YES finally someone who said it. I knew as soon as they showed pinless joints it was gonna be a problem for us customizers. Not just for kitbashing but for just prepping as well. I wanted to use the Peter B arms for a custom but since they’re pinless I couldn’t take it apart and sand the joint so I can’t use the arms now.

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

Yea dude it def sucks if we wanna use different parts and pieces, those Peter b arms looks like they’d made some good suited arm alternatives too

@Anonymous2.2

7 ай бұрын

@@KitbashCustomsboohoo

I get why for customizers but as a casual who does not customize Marvel Legends I think they're amazing visually.

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

Non doubt, visually they do look very good

@maddexjoseph3138

4 ай бұрын

Yeah most people dont customize figures so pinless is always better

How are they assembled? I mean they can't pour or inject them in a way that allows moving joints, can they? There has to be a way to disassemble right?

I just got back into customizing MLs after 10+ years, and I didn't realize how easy it is to remove pin joints in Hasbro MLs. Had a lot of bad experience with the ToyBiz ones back in the day so I made customs without removing pin joints. But now I have to deal with these pinless joints. My main issue is that the pin itself is made of PVC, so if the joint is stuck it will twist and break when you move it.

I'm not a customizer but I dislike them. When the joints are loose I can't fix them the way I used to thanks to them. Some people are happy about them because "now we won't get Spidey's blue arms with red pins". Bro, Hasbro could have fixed that easily, they just didn't want to, lol.

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@JomasterTheSecond

Жыл бұрын

How? Painting the pins? ToyBiz tried that but the material wasn't receptive to paint.

@nhyar

Жыл бұрын

@@JomasterTheSecond Two-part pins, each of a different color. I doubt it would cost them that much to do that.

I just never got into the thought of pins being 'distracting'...like...its a toy and action figure. Its not a real person so of course it has pins. And pinless 'technology' is just a bane for customizers. Have me hunting down older bucks and hoarding em for future customs

So has anyone found a way to disassemble these yet?

So I have a Classified Duke that im trying to turn into a 90’s animated xmen Green soldier costume Professor X. And the duke figure has pinless arms and legs. I was gonna use some white scar to prime the figure, after sanding it, so how do I sand down the joint pieces so I don’t get any paint rub? Any suggestions, and this is my first ever custom piece and I see what you mean completely. Pinless sucks for custom work. I guess only thing I can think of is using a tip with a dremel to get as much as I can.

I'm just started getting into customizing and my first project I've come across a few and it's already put a halt on what I'm trying to do. I'm considering cutting out around where the pin would be essentially creating a pin on one side but idk I'm not that experienced yet.

That's what I was afraid when hasbro chose to go pinless. The end of lots of customizers. 😔

Feel the same. There awesome from a visual and engineering view point but it cuts down customization dramatically. When i first heard they were doing pinless my response was, cool.....o crap! Lol! I have all ready ran in to a few parts i would like to swap but then i realize there pinless so i have to forget about it.

I think the best joint system comes from Figuarts, Mafex, or Mezco. Not always execution but the system it self.

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

I’d say so too tbh, it pegs in and out pretty easily

@rohantherevolution

3 жыл бұрын

@@KitbashCustoms yes. How do you feel about diaphragm cut/ab joint vs ab crunch? I like diaphragm cut/ab joint myself. Those are also very easy to work with.

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

@@rohantherevolution I like it way better, it just looks so much better imo

Hasbro: hey Phil, found a way to stop customizers, let's make pinless joints! Muhahaha hahaha

it would make sense if the center wasnt attached or that was the fuse point. Then you could try to pull it apart or stretch it to the center and cut there. If they are doing this with the parts heated or hot, that would explain why my torpedo has a bum knee. Doesnt bend properly and it you force it the plastic around it warps, which lets me know that something inside melted together.

Would've definitely been better if it was nubs but you can cut it instead, I use to do it with gi joe shoulders joints, when you glue it back it's like you never cut it

I dye my figures, I only take them apart to make the process easier but I can just bend the joints every few minutes to get everything coloured

yup., I had a feeling this would happen with pinless. I would rather have pins and the option to swap

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

💯

Can someone please explain what pinless arm joints are?

They are garbage But I find way around them I have the Shazam figure which is amazing but it’s fodder…I take a exacto knife and slice You can dremel a replacement hole

See, I knew it was a reason why companies didn't want to switch to pin-less joints. But fan kept crying and now we really can't customize.🤦😒

I like the pinless joins when the like the inside of the arm is a different color than the outside that is the only case I think it works better

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

Yea they make sense, just from a customizing standpoint they suck

A better fix would have been inside pins

Of course they don’t want you customizing figures, that way they can force you to buy another that you like more. But yeah I get your pain.

You have to cut at 1 end of course. Super heated of course. But the real trick is making sure that dap of Krazy glue is just right. After attachment. You have to swivel that part right away or you know the outcome. I did that with one of my roadblock customs to replace the shoulder pin to a bigger ball to fit one of them c.o.d. figures arm portion. Thankfully all went proper. Now I have a tactical roadblock in recon gear. Different head of course. Or rather I say in jungle gear like the 1st predator movie.

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

That shoulder is much different than a forearm tho and an elbow, I did a shoulder to a ghost rider custom and it was cool but idk how that will work on an elbow tho

I understand where you coming from I'm not a customizer I probably feel the same way you feel if I was but I do like the painless joints it really depends on the action figure

@ChickenLord319

2 жыл бұрын

Autocorrect?

I honestly wish that Marvel Legends used more smooth double joints instead of pinless and ratcheted double joints.

I really don't think they consider customizers when they're making these. It's just such a small community compared to their overall clientele

@KitbashCustoms

4 ай бұрын

Well of course they don’t, lol

I agree, pin less does seem like a jab at the customizers. Visually they are an upgrade but I feel like a nub would do the same thing.

👌🏾

I think hasbro is more concerned with making their figures look good than them being custom friendly… I see your frustration but you have to see it from their perspective. I mean it IS their creation.

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

Lol well obviously that’s their concern, and they do look good, doesn’t detract from it sucking for customizers

@the_red_bones

2 жыл бұрын

and they would sell more if the were easier for customers to work with, so many customizers buy extra figures/characters just because it might be useful for a future project.

Yeah it's a jab at customizing. For sure.

I dont think its a jab at customizers, certainly makes things harder lol. Also, keep in mind that the designers themselves kitbash parts to find the right parts for the next figure they're going to make (or just for personal enjoyment)...then again, they do have the 3D renders so they can virtually parts swap lol.

Last time I buy a new marvel legends

Couldn't you drill them out and replace ?

@KitbashCustoms

2 жыл бұрын

Yea but what would you use for the new peg, and what if it doesn’t fit

@j.olacio5298

2 жыл бұрын

@@KitbashCustoms pegs from other figures..drill out the holes snaller then you need. Yes, no, mayb? I'm knew to all this lol

@KitbashCustoms

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.olacio5298 it’ doesn’t really work like that, it can be done but it’s not a pretty job and whos to say whatever pegs you use will even fit

@j.olacio5298

2 жыл бұрын

@@KitbashCustoms thats part of the fun, seeing what works.

@KitbashCustoms

2 жыл бұрын

@@j.olacio5298 lol that doesn’t sound like fun tho, sounds like wasted figs but to each his own I guess.

I promise you this is only an issue for customizers. Collectors wanted pinless forever. It is what is is. That’s the norm moving forward.

So are the pins different from the pin in a vtoys zero body? I find those very easy to remove and work with.

At least GI Joe’s not going pinless. They know their bread & butter is mix & matching parts.

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

Let’s hope and pray they don’t do this!

@thecrankymonkey77

3 жыл бұрын

@@KitbashCustoms Lady Jaye is pinless. Probably see pinless males before too long.

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

@@thecrankymonkey77 damn I totally forgot about lady jaye

They can also be pretty gummy. I like them on iron man characters don’t get me wrong, but definitely isn’t something that is fun work with custom wise. Also if people cuss I always watch the video haha

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

😂 😂 I wish I could cuss more trust me!

I'm digging the pinless joints haha. I know they scuk for customizing tho. It's a give and take I guess lol

Wsup sensei kitbash

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

Yo

The one positive I see in pinless joints is that the plastic used for them isn't prone to warping.

Exactly, they trying to stop the guy that make coustum. They know that most of the coustom figures out there look better than there's..greedy, shady move...sucks big time...but,like the old say,is there's a will,surely will be a way...hang on and keep coustumizing...👍👍👍👍

No offense but I think you should get some new background music

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

But why?

@julianhayden9961

3 жыл бұрын

@@KitbashCustoms it just sounds boring because it’s in every video

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

@@julianhayden9961 lol it’s background music my guy

@julianhayden9961

3 жыл бұрын

@@KitbashCustoms I know but it makes me want to fall asleep

@KitbashCustoms

3 жыл бұрын

@@julianhayden9961lol have a good nap

Yeah pin-less suck.

I feel what you’re saying bro but we all know they don’t make figures with customizers in mind.

Feel the same, man. Dont really care for the pinless things