Pin Broke off NEC Chip. Is this fixable. Benz Key Fob Repair
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What a great repair. You wouldn't get this from a "warranty" type repairer, just more proof that Right To Repair is critical to keeping technology out of landfills.
@larrybud
2 жыл бұрын
It's about time and money. This thing probably costs 10 bucks to make for the car companies, with 100,000% markup.
@thetechconspiracy2
2 жыл бұрын
@@larrybud Exactly. Someone with the skills needed to to board-level repairs like this is going to charge way more than it would be worth to repair the key fob, when the dealer can fix it in 10 minutes (most of which is waiting for a machine to cut the key) with a part that barely costs anything to make and plugging a tool into the car to learn the new key fob. If they are charging a dime over $50, they had better be coming out to your house to program the key (they can look up the cut on their computer system based on the VIN, and cut it before they come out)
@gtx1650max-q
2 жыл бұрын
@@thetechconspiracy2 I would look at it like this, if there would be more skilled people like him that would increase some competition which may decrease repair costs.
@Diehard4077
2 жыл бұрын
@@thetechconspiracy2 board level repair (I've been getting into it as a hobby) will always be a thing due to greed seriously my 07 dodge i brought a already cut key that needed to be programmed to the dealer they charged me 120ish CAD and the reason i brought them a key i cut is because to get a key supplied by them was 300+ CAD FOR A 07 DODGE
@paulbains9152
2 жыл бұрын
@@thetechconspiracy2 I usually fix stuff like this for my freinds , for free . The challenge of not being beat by a chip .
It’s a real pleasure to see how you approach a problem, formulate a plan of action, then always do your best for the customer! A true professional.
@fredob7207
2 жыл бұрын
There is a way to read the codes from the chip if you really need it I could send you a link to the video on here and they have some of the necessary tools on the video as well
@rahulmechatronics
2 жыл бұрын
@@fredob7207 please share link
I feel like I'm late to the party discovering this channel. My favorite thing: that I see the TRUE JOY on your face when you are able to fix something! Sure, you provide real value for your customers and that's your job, but you look like you genuinely are excited and pleased with yourself when you're able to troubleshoot and fix a problem, and the fixer's watching you (myself included) know and love this feeling. You're very positive and a pleasure to watch, keep it up!
@desnick2316
Жыл бұрын
you mean when WE are able to fix something, lol
Yes you can renew this chip check vvdimb tool. Good work with this chip👏 🙌
@thesmartguy3523
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you can even make keys with VVDI MB in all keys lost situation and add key, so long as it's FBS2/FBS3
@coctailrob
2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I love about KZread. Viewers coming up with the solutions. Everyone wins.
That looks like damage from a small screwdriver being used to open the FOB housing when changing a battery. At first look I knew that pin should be repairable, but I would have used an exacto to scrape the overmold down. The other thing I would suggest is TakPak CA glue over the part of the chip you ground away.
@harpingon
2 жыл бұрын
Okay! I was watching this video and thinking, "how though?" how do you get that pin broken. But yeah - inserting a pokey thing to try and get the fob open to change a battery could for sure do that.
@obd6HsN
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those fobs have a hard life, and are covered with a conformal coating from the factory. I'd definitely have sprayed a bit more conformal coat on to cover that part
@tomkroebel4936
Жыл бұрын
As I am repairing a lot of remote controls I can absolutely confirm! And it's the same for all these broken coils in FOBs...
Den doing this since 1984, I just use a dremal cutoff wbeel, I the last 11 years I use boiling acid, we decap our chips to do FIB work on prototype chips (mostly making metal layer changes and some other stuff). We also decap for thermal imaging for latch up debug/etc.
Wow, THAT is a new level! I was sitting with my mouth open: "How in the world did this repair work?" Absolute top-notch repair, great job!
congratulation, this is a hardcore repair. you deserve the designation as a professional.
Another absolutely amazing fix. I love how you look for solutions, not problems.
I always look forward to a new uploaded video from you, Alex. You level of soldering and repair work on tech is just out of this world.
Nicely done. I work a lot with forensic data recovery from vehicle components and sometime, chips damaged by corrosion (flooded cars), fire or several mechanical damages exhibit this problem. I approach it in the same way, usually there's plenty of connectors still buried in the epoxy. Things get a little more difficult with QFN or BGA packages.
Fantastic! On top of the brilliant repair successfully completed right before our eyes no cost for donor part, just a large amount of brains mixed with flux & solder as well as some more wear on the grinding bit. Big boss has now made a small profit to go towards purchasing more awesome equipment. Absolutely brilliant!
You're amazingly creative with the repairs. Everyone should strive to be at your Level of dedication to get the repair done.
You can reprogram these chips with special tools like VVDI Benz VVDI MB BGA tool or a CGDI Prog MB Benz Car Key programmer, love the videos and thank you
I always look forward to a new uploaded video from you, Alex. The experience you share and your advice is invaluable.
Chip is encrypted to prevent it being read and cloned.
I think most people enjoy these videos as much for you as for the repairs. Thank you for sharing.
The solder wick they sell is top notch. I bought 3 spools of it. Use it every day. Now my 10 spools of Goot Wick sit in a box, unless I need it for something very small. Now, if they could get this premium wick they sell in different sizes, now you REALLY got something. Oh yeah, and I bought the UNI-T thermal camera, LOVE IT! that thing has already paid me back.
@infotechsailor
2 жыл бұрын
@@fluke196c maybe he means amtech?
spectacular, i love how calm and collect you were grinding away at that chip
Fantastic repair. A nice big slap in the face for 'throw away' culture. Kudos.
It's amazing how you approach each problem ! I'm french and your videos are my saint bible ! Let's continue...
Funny how we end up right back to the rtr .. the dealer has the equipment and software to read and write to that chip..They want you to come back so they can wax you that money! Good repair boss! Keep up the good work of sticking it to the man!!!!!!
@davidcameron648
2 жыл бұрын
Very unlikely that the dealers have access to the tools to read or write to that chip for security reasons (any data should be encrypted and obfuscated to keep thieves from reading the data from a fob and making a copy). The manufacturer is the one able to make copies, but $500 USD and up is price gouging for a device that costs at most a few dollars to manufacture.
Ah, I saw the screwdriver comment below, I was wondering how the damage happened. Brilliant repair job
Always good to think outside the box when it comes to repairing. Nice work.
@PaulGrayUK
2 жыл бұрын
He thought thru the box (best of both worlds) as soon as he picked up the Dremel to get access to the pin. Yes, well nice work indeed. Also, the humility and common sense to testing out upon a donner chip, shows the level of professionalism that you don't often see - somebody sure of themselves but not over cocky and with that - truly defining the word professionalisim.
@melstead3981
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think that Alex knows what it is to think inside the box. As long as I have been watching, that is simply the way it is. He has made me more adventures. That has made me a better repair person. Thank you Alex for putting a higher standard on professionalism.
Good save! In my last job, the benches in the cleanroom each had a 1/4" vacuum port for slurping up debris. By making a small filter in a plastic box it enabled us to wash areas with IPA, and suck-up as we cleaned, leaving no residue. A cheap vacuum/suction pump with a filter would be a great help with SM work like this.
I am amazed at your confidence and approach
I love these key fob repair videos. Can't wait to see more
I like how legitimately happy he looks when he confirms his fix. Like, you can tell he's way more stoked than he lets on
It's just miraculous to me how u give life to these parts ...... I'm not even an electrician but u sure inspired me to be one
Such an amazing repair , you are truly a ‘chip surgeon’ ✌🏻
Great job. I can see now why you're so proud of your work
beautiful, fluid fix! Grinding down that IC was nerve-wracking to watch lol
I admire your work in my eyes you are a virtuoso. I'm in my mid-40s and would take an apprenticeship with you anytime. Keep it up and continue to enlighten us with your work´
Pure genius! I have never seen a chio ground or would never have thought of it.
Good repair as always.👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
I learned something new today with this video...keep on making other techniques on repairing SMD components...Thanks
This video Saved my life, Absolute Legend!
That's a professional repair. Thanks for the video.
Amazing work!! Thanks for these videos, Ive learned so much on smd work from these and have done several repairs. Cheers!!!
its like watching a skilled dentist at work, well done
Excellent imaginative technique.
Man you are amazing and very sharp a credit to your profession.
Great job Alex!!👍
what a fix alex ....definately top 5 fixes of all time .... joe from uk
Mind blown... Nah! Can't beat experience an a bit of thinking outside the box. Great job Alex!
Ah... reminds me of the good old days at the PACE station repairing circuit cards for a third generation mainframe. Well done!
This case "the pin is gone". Amazing skills thank you
Good work...Fine hands
Excelent!!! "Chapeau!!" From Argentina
This was an Awesome job 👌🏻 Excellent piece of work 👍🏻
Absolutely fantastic,all that matters is a working chip👍
A true electronic surgeon.
Wow..... that was amazing repair.
Tnx for the tip. I tryed and it works perfectly.
Awesome repair 👍
respect from Turkey
I did something like this on a Texas Instruments calculator once. It required the use of a microscope. Once the jumper was soldered, I very gently cleaned the area, dried it with light puffs of canned air, and then put some epoxy cement over it for mechanical support and protection. You should consider doing that, too. You were very fortunate that the chip case was plastic and not ceramic like the kind used in defense electronics.
Impressive work. You must have steady hands
very impressive repair.....
@ 3:26 He doesn't want "da-breeze" to fly around! 😆😆😆
Nicely done
That was awesome. I need to get me one of those grinding pens.
Good work. Thanks
Great video and great repair,nice touch with the grinding pen, looks like a great tool to have👍
you make it look so easy
Found your channel recently and have been hooked. Your process is brilliant and as others have said it is your approach to the repairs which makes the difference as well as your capabilities and craft. Been doing these sort of repairs for years but with optics only and normally head gear but things just getting too small and uncomfortable for me so Looking at buying the microscope kit in UK 10 MP with 180x lens. can I ask what megapixel your sensor is?
Great job, I've never tried that before 👍👍
that's super educational knowing you can get into an IC like that.
Outstanding job! I wonder how the fob got damaged!
Awesome. Very good job.
I like the way you work and teach
We are impressed.
You make it an ART!
I did think before i see you perform the operation .i was thinking about grinding it .
Amazing skills!
Nice job as always
Wouldn't have thought you could do that, what a great watch
Awesome job Alex :)
nice work with that grinder.. 3 or 4 times I was like.. NOOO he went too far only to see I was wrong. Nice light touch.
great job well done on that one for sure your amazing dude !!!
We did good. Cheers!
The grinding pen and flux have saved many boards here, won't be without them. The flux is easy to clean, and the pen makes short work of damaged or missing areas on boards. On reading the chip, normally the programmable portion of the chip has a "fuse" that is purposely blown after programming to prevent accessing the code that would allow you to read and then program a new chip. Find the datasheet for the chip and look up the program method. If that's the case, now we know why Benz can charge $1,500 for a fob.
Thanks for sharing
Super Job gemacht ! 😎💓👍 🇩🇪
Nice job.
Awesome! Good Job 👍💯
Great work 😉👌
Very nice!
big fan of fob keys repairs
wow amazing job! I hope to never have to attempt this.
good job mate.
excelente trabajo
After so much wait , a Video after a long time.
you and big boss are awesome i watch you everyday and learn new stuff , i am disabled and work on a folding bench with a vice attached to it , it helps me hold conponents in place , see i had a brain heammorrage at 25 etc so makes movement very hard indeed , i wish i could afford that flux etc but being disabled really sucks the meat off of you. good posting videos aas well. regards .
Very good works thanku
Another great video Alex, keep up the good work. Do you sell the key fob tester on your website, looks like a great little tool. 👍
Awesome tools using bro
Very nice Job, the grinding pen really is perfect for this repair
Nice repair. You made it look easy. The missing component looked like a capacitor. You could have measured its value and replaced it with a new part instead of needing to take one off a donor board. It would allow you to replace the missing part on another board in the future.
Good job