The line up checks I tell to my students. Let me know if you have any more items. Lights. Transponder. Fuel Pump. Windsock. Heading (LAST BUT NOT LEAST)... make sure it agrees with the runway you're supposed to line up

@bittnerbs

Ай бұрын

I always make my students bug runway heading prior to crossing the hold short.

@Harryt27a

Ай бұрын

Similar here when training: ATPL checks Approach clear Transponder Pitot Heat Landing lights Runway heading check was always part of receiving take-off clearance or applying full throttle. It doesn’t apply to my airline these days, unless the automated runway awareness system doesn’t mention the runway for whatever reason.

@jimmiller5600

Ай бұрын

"Heading" goes double for "intersection" departures. I remember a B737 going the wrong way.

@IFS

Ай бұрын

Yeah verily always do all the checklists! A good friend of mine rushed their prep for a "quick" scenic flight with 2 PAX in a 172, ran their own memory items checklist, missing the "Controls free and correct" prestart item thus missed that they still had the yoke gust lock/parked pin in place. Only at VR did they realize there was a problem, though there was just enough play to allow a marginal pull back so they did take off. Fortunately they were flying off a dry lake bed and so they were able continue straight ahead, chop power, and land hard (no flare possible). Collapsed the nose gear and bent the prop, but everyone walked away. The PIC did get a new nickname "gust lock" however.

@123owenboy

Ай бұрын

RISE Check Runway Instructed Route / Intention Stop altitude Emergencies

ATC throwing serious shade there. "You have an instructor with you?" "I am the instructor." Awkward pause. "Oh yeah, make sure you call the tower." Ouch.

@jonathankleinow2073

Ай бұрын

"Correction, you WERE the instructor. Past tense. I'll make sure of that."

@DaveP1991

Ай бұрын

That pause was it getting upgraded from a student learning a very big scary lesson to an instructor getting the biggest bollocking in recorded history.

@johnhutto71

Ай бұрын

@@DaveP1991I think the ATC owns at least a small part of that because he didn't catch the error while he was still on the ground. After that it was just a cascade of errors and they both seemed flustered. Just glad it ended without an accident.

@darks1der07

Ай бұрын

They might be VFR but it still is every controllers nightmare to deal with a crash and or death. It's groundhog day for us and we make mistakes too. It's only going to get worse with the screaming increase of volume, less time to talk on frequency, and all this training both ATC and pilots are doing. We both have to hear for details. And if your VFR, no MVA or MSA altitude needed to maneuver. Don't touch paint. Touch the trees all you want.

@darks1der07

Ай бұрын

​@@johnhutto71I wish I knew if this channel crops audio. We don't know what else the LC was doing. If I already cleared someone, my next priority after ensuring the runway 27 was clean of aircraft or vehicles (which is all I'm looking for and possibly the random wildlife or bird) I'm looking at my arriving traffic for landing lights/gear. This tower had a radar display which is approved to use for separation and position verification, this is where we are analyzing our spacing and if things are going to work. Now imagine working at a busier place with no radar display and weekly near mid air collisions and the FAA being firm on denying paying for installing the hardware for a radar slave monitor. This will catch up to the industry and the only way change will take place is when enough blood makes it happen...then it's a matter of the government snail pace to actually get it installed.

"I am the instructor," Good lorde that's terrifying

@dougfraser77

Ай бұрын

Maybe distracted talking with a student? No excuse anyway...

@Francois8011

Ай бұрын

Yep, my jaw dropped!

@VideoManDan

Ай бұрын

I don't think Lorde has anything to do with flying. She makes music 😂

@pawepluta4883

Ай бұрын

The guy that crashed at Tenerife was also an instructor. A chief instructor even, IIRC :-) Come on, an error of course, a dangerous one, but it simply happens. Human error.

@flyoma

Ай бұрын

@@VideoManDan No, Lorde is a geologist from Colorado.

Imagine being the student with the instructor and hearing all this unfold lol

@mark1015

Ай бұрын

New instructor time.

@davecrupel2817

Ай бұрын

I'd be taking a long break from flight school after this. Probably a permanent one. I do not trust people easily, at all. Including myself. Some call it trust issues. If you break what little trust ive put in you as a flight instructor this severely, by screwing up this badly, I'd likely never set foot behind a stick/yolk again. Or in your flight school again. I wouldnt even want to occupy the same airplane as you.

@nickz4993

Ай бұрын

⁠@@davecrupel2817Cool story bro

@RetreadPhoto

Ай бұрын

Well, he’s the one that turned them onto 9R, and he’s the one that is geographically challenged and not using a compass. 🤓

@johnthompson5741

Ай бұрын

@@RetreadPhotohe’s a student for a reason, he’s still learning, and as an instructor there are things you can let slide and talk about later. This is absolutely not one of them and they should’ve never left the ground. Instructor should’ve corrected as soon as they made a right and either forced him back to the left or made them abort and exit the runway

Need a KZread channel that records the phone calls to the ATC folks.

@VideoManDan

Ай бұрын

I'd imagine those calls are confidential, so it's not going to happen.

@brettstowell4029

Ай бұрын

@@VideoManDan Somebody filed a FOIA for Harrison Ford's taxiway landing call.

@RT-qd8yl

Ай бұрын

Yep, you can get them through FOIA but it's not gonna be cheap to do that for every incident. Most gov entities make it prohibitively expensive for anyone but news media or big groups.

@wyattc3508

Ай бұрын

@@RT-qd8yl Yes and no, the expenses must be justified and reasonable. Many of the agencies I deal with end up giving information for free, or just the cost of shipping if it's a larger request. If they run awry the AG will tear into them or you can bring an action.

@larryrichards3641

Ай бұрын

I've often wondered how those calls go. Can the pilot talk himself out of a visit to FSDO? Can you still file an ASRS?

As a retired controller I can say most positively that Controller is going to buy a good part of that because he failed to notice the aircraft rolling the wrong way.

@surreyboy84

Ай бұрын

I was thinking the same. Should’ve noticed they were taking off the wrong way.

@isilver78

Ай бұрын

Possibly, but at MLB they are often alone working all stations. It's a busy class D and has been chronically understaffed for years. Only recently have they gone back to having split ground/tower stations but only during peak hours. From a human factors standpoint, they aren't really set up to have multiple safety nets.

@TFlight77

Ай бұрын

I would also think tower would be visually verifying that the aircraft they just cleared on to the runway would be departing the direction as instructed otherwise an abort or reject radio call would be made.

@jimmiller5600

Ай бұрын

@@TFlight77 "staffing".

@RichFreeman

Ай бұрын

​@@TFlight77if they did that how could they issue 5 clearances to the same runway at the same time? 😂

N4182T being cheeky with the readback. Note the heavy emphasis on the LEFT at 2:21.

@Mr7M0o0D1

Ай бұрын

Lol nice catch

@RadioactiveSherbet

Ай бұрын

I noticed that, too. I immediately chuckled.

"Yes, I am the instructor" 😄😄😄 Fantastic

Thought that call sign sounded familiar. I took my instrument check ride in 51G

@Hans-gb4mv

Ай бұрын

Did you check that the compass was good?

@zq3yp

Ай бұрын

yea the quality of instructors at MFT has gone downhill every since they've expanded the fleet.

@bigyaksd

Ай бұрын

@@zq3yp that plane was living out in SoCal when I flew her

Every radio call from 51G ends with "sorry about that."

@brulez123

Ай бұрын

Cascading errors happens very frequently. I guarantee that CFI's mind was mostly thinking wtf did I just do rather than flying the airplane. Controller did a good job of saying just call rather than trying to chew him out on frequency.

@sgtjonzo

Ай бұрын

​@@brulez123very good point

One minor thing in the pilot's defense here. He read back the ATC instruction as climb to 1500' THEN turn southbound, so the controller should have caught the incorrect readback and clarified.

@wood42shed

Ай бұрын

Then again he did climb to 1500' and continued climbing for another 200' still without turning southbound so he didn't follow that readback either. I can see why the controller later warned another plane to watch for him.

@mrpielover615

Ай бұрын

@@wood42shed The radar scope is pressure altitude, not indicated altitude. As he said, they were just indicating 1500 feet when they started the turn south. The radar scope is showing 100/200 feet higher than the aircraft actually are.

@pyRoy6

Ай бұрын

I'm also curious about the next message to "disregard." I initially thought it was to disregard the direction to turn southbound.

@xheralt

Ай бұрын

The ATC's instruction was ambiguous. If he'd really wanted the turn first, he should have given the turn first. The ONLY difference between the instruction and the readback is the transcriber's punctuation, which is very subjective, and only supplies context in text, not voice-only radio! I think the ATC is still in panic mode, it seems like _every_ instruction issued since the near-miss was averted is still being given on a DO IT NOW basis, even with no further conflict imminent. 51G would have been just fine continuing that 27-ish heading for a little while longer, AFAIK

@Bartaaron04

Ай бұрын

That’s why the international standard “when passing 1500 feet, turn South” exists (and standard phraseology in general”, to avoid these things from happening. But 90% of American aviation is too cool for that

This is an example of why many controllers don’t like approving unusual requests that only provide a minor shortcut (ie: intersection departures, through clearances, etc). Doesn’t matter if it’s 3am - unusual requests increase the chance that something will go wrong.

@amg2022

Ай бұрын

Agreed. I get it’s a long runway but taking off with only 40% of the runway left is kinda goofy. I’m safety paranoid but I rarely do intersection takeoffs. I’d rather have 8000ft to try a landing if something wild happens.

@wildgurgs3614

Ай бұрын

"If it can go wrong, it will go wrong. If it can't go wrong, it'll find a way to go wrong anyway." -Me Constant vigilance and situational awareness eliminate a surprising number of ways for things to go wrong! Stay cautiously lively out there, everyone

Sounds like the CFI is just building hours. Woe be his students.

@steven2145

Ай бұрын

Let's see how his future in the airlines looks with a deviation on his record.

@brandonadams7837

Ай бұрын

@@steven2145 just because you get a phone number does not mean you get a deviation. Strange assumption to make. Deviations are rare.

@goodshipkaraboudjan

Ай бұрын

The US system is a joke. No one in Australia or New Zealand can instruct without real world time in their logbook.

@brandonadams7837

Ай бұрын

@@goodshipkaraboudjan what is the minimum number of hours to be a CFI in those countries?

@TheNapalmFTW

25 күн бұрын

This

Controller handled this at about an 8 out of 10. I'm knocking 2 points for 2 different reasons. 1. I'm definitely telling 51G to make a left turn immediately instead of telling them to turn northbound immediately. The pilot was already without directional situational awareness having just departed the wrong runway. 2. Too much scolding. Obviously it was a very serious situation and reprimanding his actions was much needed, but save that for the phone call. It could be even more dangerous for the controller to continue with the "disappointed dad talk" behavior. On a side note, I'm gonna start making a daily tally for pilots and controllers with whose fault it is lol.

@VASAviation

Ай бұрын

You missed the most important mistake from ATC and was not realizing they were indeed rolling the wrong direction. They have windows and eyes, tell them to abort the takeoff...

@isilver78

Ай бұрын

@@VASAviation I commented on the last video about their staffing levels. I've been on the airport for nearly 30 years and also ran the local university flight training program for 9 of those years. I know the tower folks pretty well and we've had our differences. But the reality is that they're an understaffed contract tower, often working combined stations and if you sit in the cab you can watch them jump from task to task. From a human factors standpoint, they just aren't set up to have multiple layers of safety nets. The flight schools on field have always had to watch their standardization training carefuly to make sure the instructors and students are familiar with he airport and it's flows. Right now runway 9L/27R is closed so north side traffic is being directed to depart from Q which is halfway down the 10k foot runway. The plane entered the runway from the north side of the airport and wouldn't have had numbers or any other reference on the pavement, just the signage. Low time student/instructor and less than typical markings plus an understaffed tower, there were a lot of factors. I'm sure that flight school owner sent out a briefing note to all after that event.

@OppositeOpinion

Ай бұрын

As an ATC I think it's 3/10 not more

@totermusiker

Ай бұрын

I'm not in the industry, but often hear ATC explicitly state "cross runway X". Should this not have been included in the routing and take off clearance for 51G?

@AK-nb6hz

Ай бұрын

I agree. The controller is part to blame here in my opinion. I'm not sure how real time the instructions are but having someone shouting at them ordering them to call the tower while the conflict is resolving is a massive mark against this controller in my opinion. That's following the fact the takeoff roll wasn't aborted. As a pilot, flying an aircraft, it can be difficult to get your head back in the game when something has gone south. Having someone continually reprimand you while you're trying to resolve things is just going to cause more mistakes. It's the two pilots that had the near miss, the controller would have lived on. Worth thinking about if you're an ATCO with a bit of a temper.

When I get taxi clearance to the runway I always set the heading bug to the departure runway heading. It’s a good extra check for me.

@wildgurgs3614

Ай бұрын

Better to do an unneeded check than not do a needed one!

Nearly choked on the tortilla chips at 3:49, "do you have an instructor with you.. 51G: Yes I am the instructor" WTH?

@amggaming3528

Ай бұрын

@@rubenvillanueva8635I love how the excuse for every mishap these days is “Those damn minorities did it.”

@Pants4096

Ай бұрын

@@rubenvillanueva8635 oh begone, bigot. ಠ_ಠ

taking off in the wrong direction is a really hard thing to do, considering their heading indicator would have been staring them in the face with a 090

@rustymustard7798

Ай бұрын

It's only hard if you're paying attention to what you're doing.

@Quotenwagnerianer

Ай бұрын

And considering that you are from around the area and know in which direction west and east are!

@goodshipkaraboudjan

Ай бұрын

The student to CFI path doesn't factor situational awareness.

nothing like playing chicken with airplanes!

@43nostromo

28 күн бұрын

It's not as delicious as it sounds.

"I am the instructor." DEAD

That's why it's so important to set runway heading on the heading indicator and confirm before take off roll.

Best of luck Cap. I don’t have time to invest in DCS but I love the videos.

If only there was instruments in the plane that showed you direction, like a heading indicator that when you got on runway you could confirm, or a compass that you could look at, oh well, maybe someone will make these one day. Even worse there was instructor in plane!!!

@hirisk761

Ай бұрын

yup that would be a very useful instrument to have😂

@benjambreeg

Ай бұрын

or just use vectors with numbers instead east/south/west/north

@beachbum77979

Ай бұрын

...If only airports would put numbers on runways...

@JonathanRockway

Ай бұрын

Before takeoff checklist... 1) Engine... turned on. 2) Yoke... being held. Checklist complete.

@darks1der07

Ай бұрын

Cleared to land runway 14. Hey N123...looks like you made a right turn for runway 30 north of me, confirm your turning south for runway 14? Guy lands at mil base 4 miles north, 12k ft runways with fighter jets and heavies all over the place...and the little 5k ft runway off the opposite wing. It's crazy people screw this up that have tracking and Garmins too. If only those compasses were installed in every aircraft... 😅

I'm an A&P. We never screw up this bad!

Knowing your left from right and how to read a compass certainly would help this “instructor.”

Waiting for the sq321 ATC recording!

Omg.. of course that pilot screwed up, but what was tower doing? Isn’t he supposed to watch him that he was turning right (instead of left) on to the runway and say something such as cancel takeoff clearance? Just curious 👀

Almost had this happen to me when flying with a coworker for the first time from an intersection departure. He taxiied onto the runway the wrong direction and something just felt wrong even though I wasn't paying much attention. I quickly checked ForeFlight and realized we were facing the wrong direction and we made a 180 then departed. Huge wake up call for something to be more careful about in the future when holding short of the runway before taxiing on. Tower never even noticed, or at least didn't say anything.

Genuinely wondering how the tower controller only caught the mistake once 51G was off deck. Cleared him onto the runway and for takeoff and then proceeded to not look at the active runway at all for like a solid minute? Doing his job purely off the radar scope?

@soccerguy2433

Ай бұрын

Go be a tower controller.

@jamescollier3

Ай бұрын

yeah. red flag for sure getting on the runway at the "short" end.... ATC should have been more vigilant

@zq3yp

Ай бұрын

@@soccerguy2433 clowns like the one in this tower are a result from comments like yours

@Nickbaldeagle02

Ай бұрын

Because he's hella busy.

WOW. How did that guy not get called out by Tower for lining up for an EAST-bound departure after being cleared WEST-bound?? Did I miss something? I mean, the instructor (!!!???) totally screwed the pooch as well, but holy cow.. what a cluster F!

@emstephan7440

Ай бұрын

They were assigned an intersection departure - meaning, at some point that is not the beginning of the runway, and this one was somewhat near the middle of the runway with plenty of distance for taking off in either direction. Not the first time this has happened.

@Wulfhard1965

21 күн бұрын

They were always talking about "southbound" only.

I've seen pilots recently verity the runway heading with their compass before taking off. I don't remember being taught that by my instructor 30 years ago, but it's definitely a good thing to do.

I think the controller had an idea he was talking to the instructor already and asked a loaded question like that just to rub it in some more!

All things considered, pretty professional post-screwup. “Instructor” owned it (eventually) and nobody got mouthy…

Dude is still turning north to avoid a collision and the controller is almost panicky telling him to call the tower? Let them get on course and everyone is OK, then give him the number to call.

Yikes!😮

At least he said he was sorry.

When he said, "Yeah, I am the instructor." my children heard me say a bad word..

@goodshipkaraboudjan

Ай бұрын

No surprise, he was probably a student himself only months ago.

OMG that was a CFI! Good lord.

My first thought on seeing the title was that two airplanes took off at each other from opposite ends of the runway. I saw that once years ago at an uncontrolled airfield. One pilot announced his intentions, the other not only didn't announce his intentions, he obviously never heard the first pilot. It was a fairly modern aircraft so surely it had a radio.

Looked like a huge clusterfudge!

Who gives ATC a phone number for a possible controller deviation? His job is to notice that mess up way sooner!

All part of the training. Well done to the instructor for showing the students how to stay calm in a real world emergency

I have commented about the risk of intersection departures on other videos. An intersection departure added situational confusion to the mixed up instructor and the unaware student. It saved them engine time and unnecessarily risked the lives of several.

Welcome to United 😊

Wow

(Bucky) that’s my flight school callsign 🥹 I miss those old days 🥹💔

Situation awareness - Strike One. Compass & DG cross check prior to takeoff...Strike Two. I am the Instructor...Strike Three Your out of my airspace 😢

@foreststewart1968

Ай бұрын

Humans performing complex tasks focus on a variety of things (sometimes the wrong, less-critical things), which can lead to errors. As an example: "Your" instead of "You're." Strike one?

Ouch...

Vacancy for a new instructor right there... holy moly.

I knew exactly where this was going as soon as I saw the intersection takeoff. Inexperienced single-engine pilots (and inexperienced CFIs) just do NOT know how to properly read those hold short line markings, they need to be explicitly told “turn left onto the runway,” otherwise they turn toward the end marked 27L. At school airports they should be forced to taxi all the way to the end, lacking any better way to make sure they go in the right direction. But controllers don’t want them slowing down the taxi traffic. This is the result, way too often.

@goodshipkaraboudjan

Ай бұрын

Because the student to CFI path is a joke. No real world experience so it's the blind leading the blind.

Ouch.

It's been a while since I've worked in a tower but isn't it also the LCs responsibility to verify the aircraft is departing in the correct direction? Scan before clearing...

@Taylexwow

Ай бұрын

Well he didn't tell him to line up and wait, he just cleared him before he ever hit the runway.

@mulazo

Ай бұрын

@Taylexwow Yeah, but he should be actively looking at the aircraft he's clearing as he gives the control instruction. Unless something has changed about that in the past 10 years. That's how we were trained, anyway.

@aaawac2174

Ай бұрын

Another issue is the controller should be confirming the aircraft can take off with X amount of runway if it's an intersection takeoff and not a standard takeoff. Even though there's 5000' from Q to either end

not the next guy with the dramatic LEFT in holding short of runway 27L @ Q

No worries, we will hire his instructor

A bit strange that twr did not notice that the plane started in the opposite direction, until it was airborne, and very much airborne too.

Oh shoot. I was starting my Go-Pros.

Wow, that will keep the blood flowing

I run into some cfi that do this so often that they fall into complacency and that’s what leads to accidents. Always double check everything and don’t go until you are ready, some of these new guys are always rushing for no reason and putting themselves and the students in harm’s way.

Melbourne sure gets alot of stuff

Just watch for him... yeah maintain visual separation for your own safety haha

Another day, another airport

Is there a chance you get atc from Flight SQ321 London to Singapore yesterday (May21) ? They got heavy turbulence , Drop 6000ft. and serveral passenger injured and 1 fatal and had to do emergency landing in Bangkok

Melbourne is my home airport. This place is an absolute shit show now, and I am glad I don't train out of there anymore.

When did Toby Flenderson from The Office become an instructor?? 😆😆😆

I can understand why ATC is so furious, but I think there's no need to keep pressuring those pilots while the plane is still in the air. They already know they've made a huge mistake. The rest can wait until they are back on the ground.

@VASAviation

Ай бұрын

ATC also failed by not realizing they were rolling the other way... so they're both to blame.

@Benis650

Ай бұрын

@@VASAviation Out of curiosity, I want to know if it's really possible for him to make a left turn from taxiway Q onto the runway and take off with such a short distance?

@VASAviation

Ай бұрын

@@Benis650 you can hear another pilot after him holding short at Q. Yes, 27L is long enough to use Q for both 27L and 9R

This seems like a chaotic airspace and airport. I feel for the controller

DOH! Expectation bias bites another pilot. Thankfully nobody got hurt....

man, intersection take offs (or intersection taxi backs for full length) can confuse someone because you can't see the number to confirm, and can disorient pilots. good way to prevent anything like this is set your heading bug to the runway heading and make sure it's lined up before you take off!!!

When that first conflict ended and I saw we were only halfway through the video, I thought "Oh man, this guy's not done, he's got another mistake coming up." I was not disappointed.

Think of the Comair 5191 accident Lexington, KY. Always confirm - "cleared for takeoff runway ___. , heading agrees, initial altitude set." If they had done that, there wouldn't have been 50 deaths on that terrible morning.

So... besides the obvious issue of taking off the wrong way, did I also catch that their altimeter was off by about 200ft? Sounds like it wasn't set or verified during run-up/before takeoff.

Turns the famous line from Star Wars on its head "Once you were the student, now I am the student!"

As someone who knows nothing official about ATC apart from obvious basics, perhaps when an aircraft joins a runway FURTHER along, ATC could also tell them to turn left or right onto that runway as they leave the given taxi way .

@rtired7908

Ай бұрын

They were told which way to turn - onto 27L. The signage for the runway intersection shows a 27 on the left and a 9 on the right. All they had to do was turn toward the 27. Controller does not need to tell them to turn left or right. If I had to guess the CFI was coaching the student on something inside the plane and did not watch outside and confirm the turn direction. Or they had a brain fart. Can guarantee they won’t make that particular mistake again.

@schmittywill

Ай бұрын

@@rtired7908 The sign would be the opposite, reading 9R - 27L, indicating 27L starts on their right and goes to the left

@rtired7908

Ай бұрын

@@schmittywill You are correct! Thanks for the correction.

@rommel1459

22 күн бұрын

@@rtired7908 I think the "proceed south" didn't help

"I'm the instructor".... Dear Lord...

Airports are slowly becoming as nuts as highways.

Ruh-Roh!

4951G sounds familiar.

It's almost like the student to CFI thing which has been joked about over the years is showing why people joked about it.

You almost never see this type of mistake anymore. Ever since the Comair crash at SDF everyone has a heading bug and runway verification as their final check prior to applying full power for takeoff. Im assuming this instructor is not following SOPs or his school needs to rewrite the SOPs.

Is "turn southbound" standard phraseology for ATC? I recall a prior incident when ATC repeatedly said "southbound" and it wasn't understood. "Turn left heading 180" might have been better, considering the pilot was obviously mixed up directionally. Not making any excuses for the pilot (instructor!) though, shoddy airmanship!

@dillcifer

Ай бұрын

Assigning headings to fly is radar vectoring. As the name implies, it is a radar function.

@BelowMinimums

Ай бұрын

A tower controller without a certified radar display cannot give radar vectors, which telling someone to fly heading 180 is. So that's why he said turn southbound

Where was the controller when the aircraft entered the runway and rolled down the runway. Controllers should “Always” watch your traffic! Should have caught that and cancelled takeoff clearance as he was not that busy!

It's easy to make this mistake when ops switch from eastbound to westbound. It's unfortunate that the tower didn't catch it until it created a collision hazard.

Last summer I witnessed a student and instructor take off in the opposite direction to circuit traffic after another aircraft had already called turning base because they "didn't want to deal with the tailwind." There was a 1 knot wind.

@goodshipkaraboudjan

Ай бұрын

The student to instant CFI model is a joke. In Australia before PPL you have to know how to handle a 15kts x-wind before CPL and know when and where you can accept a tail wind factor of 5+ kts. The real world isn't dressing up like a pilot and being a pussy.

How does this happen? I was always taught to bug the runway heading on the HSI before crossing the hold short line to avoid this situation, additionally I always make a "lined up on the correct runway" call out when taking an intersection departure. Hope that we can all learn from this & be better pilots.

- Controller not watching the traffic take off the wrong way - Controller dishing out the “possible pilot deviation” speech before the separation issue is even resolved 🙄 If he doesn’t wear some of this, there is something incredibly wrong with the system.

This “instructor” will be at a major in a year, think about it.

I have to agree with the other comments here relating to the air traffic controller. He’s going to own at least half of that mistake. That being said mistakes happen and everybody pilots and controllers need to be as mindful of what’s going on as possible. By mindful what I mean is have the big picture of who’s doing what in the airport traffic area.

Do you have an instructor with you ? Oh yeah , I am the instructor 🤪

"I'm the instructor" OUCH

Well didn’t the tower notice that that the plane cleared for 27 left did not take off on 27L? I mean it took off the opposite way?

Ok why wasn't the local or ANYONE in the Tower seeing him depart the wrong rwy???

And the winds were.... ? Ashamed to say that it's quite noticeable actually to take off with a tailwind! 😬

Usually the Buckys getting reprimanded 😂

Yikes. He turned the wrong way on the runway. Oooopsie!

Exactly right, we should have ATC that always has an eye on the runways and also I think that "CFI" should get at least a 30 day suspension.

Clear situation? ❌ Possible pilot deviation? ✅

Speculating here, but it's at least likely that while the instructor was handling the radio calls, a student was actually flying. My first few flights were like that. Student hears "take off 27 left" and, from a taxiway intersection at the middle of the long runway, turns towards the paint reading 27 L. Instructor however 10/10 should have noticed and corrected the student before he/she hit the throttle. Operationally it feels like new student pilots at least should not be using Quebec for their departures anyway - not because it's not long enough, but because of this type of confusion. Zulu (for 9R) and Victor (27L) appear to be angled towards the correct direction of motion and would be better choices, if we're not going to just go full length. And I don't understand why we're not just going full length.

A line from Full Metal Jacket came to mind when he started taking off the wrong way: "Why are you going the wrong way on my RUNWAY?? Why isn't the tower STOMPING your guts out!?!?"

@jackielinde7568

Ай бұрын

Full Metal Jacket? Are you sure? That was a movie about Marines in Vietnam. The ONLY aircraft scene I remember is the helicopter ride with the psycho gunner with the exchange: Joker: How can you shoot Women... Children... Gunner: Easy. You don't have to lead them as much. Maybe it's a different movie you're thinking of?

@davebartosh5

Ай бұрын

@@jackielinde7568 haha, yeah, you're correct....I just did a Drill Sgt. Hartman impression on the scenario.

@davebartosh5

Ай бұрын

@@jackielinde7568 The scene is just before Sgt.Hartman gets blown away..he's asking whyJoker isn't stomping his guts out.

“I am the instructor” …

Yep this was my old instructor. He really did fail his students I’m one of them.

IMHO, the "instructor" needs a major refresher course on - - everything!

@goodshipkaraboudjan

Ай бұрын

It's just how it works in the US, no real world experience required to instruct.