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Most straightforward video I’ve seen so far. Thanks!! Candid and concise!

@Being_a_PA

5 ай бұрын

You are so welcome! 🙂

Uc Davis in California has a program that you would earn both your PA and NP certification/license

@Being_a_PA

Жыл бұрын

That's pretty cool, hadn't heard about that!

@GarmrK9

8 ай бұрын

Why lol seems like a strange choice

FNP’s (Family Nurse Practitioners) work with all ages; from the womb to the tomb!😇

@Being_a_PA

8 ай бұрын

Nice!

One caveat is the price of the education required for NP v. PA NP programs are generally a lot cheaper, this depends on school, area, and if it’s an online program PA schools are more expensive. Some programs have cheaper in-state tuition but generally speaking expect to spend about $100 thousand dollars just on tuition and obviously more for living expenses for 2 years. You also can’t work at least during the 1st year of PA school (didactic year) because it’ll be a full time job studying.

@Being_a_PA

10 күн бұрын

Good points! Cost can certainly vary!

Hey. Awesome video. I wanted to add a bit more insight into why some NPs can only see certain patients. Like physicians whose residency is specialty specific, NPs are somewhat specialized. Whether it be Family Med, Women’s Health, Neonatal, Nurse Midwives (they’re also APPs), CRNAs, Emergency, Acute Care, Psych, etc.….. There is no general NP school. Like a physician, if a Psych NP wanted to practice Family Medicine, they’d have to attend further specialized training most commonly as a post masters certification. This major difference between NPs and PAs is what I wish I would’ve realized before NP school. PLEASE understand that my comparison of NPs to Physicians above is merely to aid in the understanding of NP education and specialization. We do lots of the same things in practicing medicine, but I am no subject matter expert (Physician). Hope this helps.

@Being_a_PA

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the added insight! That's one thing I definitely didn't know as much about, since I'm not an NP. 🙂

Oh, and while not impossible for NPs it is A LOT easier for PAs to gain employment on services like surgery or in tge ICUs.

@Being_a_PA

8 ай бұрын

I'm guessing this is also kind of regional, or based on a specific hospital system, as well. As in, sometimes certain employers, or the local culture, causes groups to prefer PAs, or NPs. But it may be the reverse in a different part of the country.

@fjbrown92

8 ай бұрын

@@Being_a_PA likely.

@rodneyh1947

2 ай бұрын

You have more nurses and they see all these PA getting high salaries so they create NP so they can take some of that cake. In my opinion that is the whole reason the NP profession exists. Then now you have both PAs and NPs going after the the MDs now with the scope of practice LMAO.

@fjbrown92

2 ай бұрын

​@@rodneyh1947 smh, you're very misguided on the origin of the NP. It blew up overnight, but it isnt by any means new. I don't want the MD scope as an NP. I want to be better educated to care for my patients AT the level I practice. People like you claim we don't deserve a seat at the table but when we try to prove ourselves you turn your back. Advice, stop drinking the Kool aid. It didn't work out well for them.

@rodneyh1947

2 ай бұрын

PAs have higher prestige than NPs because they are (not NPs) the actual doctor lites of the medical profession. PAs go through the medical model doctors do. NPs don't. NPs aren't even worth it because pay as RN with overtime is way better without the liability that NPs have. NPs in my opinion is the worse because they have the liability of a PA/MD but without the in depth expertise of a PA/MD. Basically you are undertrained for something you will be fully liable for. That is why a lot of NPs are going back to bedside.

NP programs are specialised There’s pschiatry NP Acute care NP FNP( works with all age group) Gerontology NP And so on, There are also fellowship programs post NP school you can take to be more specialised Also, NPz have autonomy to practice independently in 26 out of the 50 states. Besides, nice video content

@Being_a_PA

7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the input!

As of now here in India we have all the courses at undergraduate level; physiotherapy (physical therapy), physician assistant, bsc nursing all the courses are of 4 years I'm a bit confused would you please guide me is Indian degree equivalent to it? I thought of doing physiotherapy at undergraduate level and then complete my physician assistant in abroad or if I've done physician assistant in India or nursing then what's the process to become equivalent

@Being_a_PA

11 ай бұрын

Hi! That's a good question, but I don't know the answer because I'm not familiar with the physician assistant career in India. I'm just guessing, but maybe the best path for someone who wanted to become a PA in the United States (where I live), would be to get your college degree, including all the prerequisite classes, in your own country. And then apply to the physician assistant programs in the USA. Because I don't know if they would accept a PA undergraduate degree from another country. But I could be wrong. So make sure you do your own research. :)

@yed7643

11 ай бұрын

@@Being_a_PA thanks for replying "PA.Smith" If I would have done physiotherapy (aka Physical therapy) in India will there be any advantage?

@Being_a_PA

11 ай бұрын

@@yed7643 Hmm, not sure. That question would probably be better suited for a physical therapist, which I am not. :)

@yed7643

11 ай бұрын

@@Being_a_PA thanks

Nps are registered nurses not lpns nas

Just wanted to point out that you have pre reqs before nursing also. And most programs want healthcare experience as well. It's also very competitive. So you don't just jump into nursing straight into college. I was molecular biology degree and switched to nursing because I worked in the lab for almost 20 years and microbiology the last 13 years. I got burnt out because shit pay and no advancement. My schools nursing program requires college English, math, chemistry (basic 101), nutrition, cell biology, microbiology, anatomy and physiology, and some of those have their own prerequisites. That's for the 2 year ADN. That's when the two years start, after the prerequisites. It's not as much as PA but it's not just two years right after highschool. If you want to do an accelerated BSN program which a lot do, you need to have a prior bachelors degree as well as the prereqs.

@Being_a_PA

8 ай бұрын

Thanks for your input. I knew some people years ago that did an associate's degree in nursing straight out of high school, it was a combined / accelerated program. So I think they were done in 2 years. However, I don't know the statistics and all the different types of programs that exist now, so thanks for sharing your insights.

PAs have higher prestige than Nps because they are (not NPs) the actual doctor lites of the medical profession. PAs go through the medical model doctors do. NPs don't. NPs aren't even worth it because pay as RN with overtime is way better without the liability that NPs have. NPs in my opinion is the worse because they have the liability of a PA/MD but without the in depth expertise of a PA/MD. Basically you are undertrained for something you will be fully liable for. That is why a lot of NPs are going back to bedside.

No reason for independent practice? How about the multitude of peer reviewed scientific studies supporting independent practice? I'm also a proponent of independent practice for PAs. Montana just passed independent practice for PAs. The rest of your podcast was pretty accurate. Good job. Once you are out of school, it's the person, not the initials (as you said). I'll also add that there is no difference between family practice physicians in primary care OR FP working rural ERs. Board certified EM NPs (ENP) and PAs are far superior to most FP physicians in the ER. Note: I'm not comparing EM physicians, obviously.

@Being_a_PA

10 ай бұрын

I was basically saying it doesn't make sense for one (NPs or PAs) to have independent practice and NOT the other. I wasn't necessarily suggesting either one of them SHOULDN'T have independent practice. Thank you for your comment..

@cameronjacobsenMS1

7 ай бұрын

there are also countless studies that argue against independent practice for mid levels

@ronaldray2797

7 ай бұрын

@@cameronjacobsenMS1 You are wrong. Please post them if you have them.

@industriesofintelligence2236

2 ай бұрын

@@ronaldray2797Im all for more accessibility to health care however, the solution is not to give mid-levels more scope of practice but we need more physicians.

@ronaldray2797

2 ай бұрын

@@industriesofintelligence2236 Do you have to be derogatory and call names? Try being an adult and have an adult discussion. I follow science, which apparently you do not. Many hundreds of peer reviewed studies show equal or better outcomes with NPs/PAs. Those are the facts even if you don't like them.