I’ve seen polls where it’s as high as 50 percent of gamers still want physical games

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Let me know, would love. To see those numbers of support for physical media :)!

@brdnl3

5 ай бұрын

@@pluspixel it was a pole I seen on here about a month ago , don’t remember who posted it .. a google search has it as high as 64 percent

If i can't resell it, i never actually owned it.

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Facts tho

Even if physical media is still available, censorship is a real reason to save older copies of films. I grew up with a VHS copy of Wallace & Gromit: The Wrong Trousers, in which Gromit opens a greeting card that sings "Happy Birthday." It's a very emotional moment. When I moved away from home, I bought the same film as part of the complete Wallace & Gromit collection on blu-ray. However, I was horrified to discover that the newer blu-ray version had re-dubbed the same scene with the tune, "For He's A Jolly Good Fellow", which is not nearly as recognizable, appropriate, or emotional. I'm sure the decision had something to do with song rights, but it ruins the film for me. 😢 Gotta go back and get the VHS.

The all digital future is terrifying. We won’t own anything, everything will be edited/altered, and it’ll never return. Luckily we have so much history to hunt for and own.

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

I feel like having ownership of a product needs to be more of the focus for people when buying something. Or we all just own NFT dvds lol

@RPKGameVids

5 ай бұрын

I'm so glad there's enough retro physical games to last us the rest of our lives.

As a Vinyl record collector, I can tell you right now the releases of physical media. Be it music, movies, video games, books, or whatever is going to go to the Collectors routes for mass consumerism. So each edition of game, record or movie, will have something special about the case, the color of the record, a special chapter for the book, based on whoever is selling the release. For example, the Walmart, exclusive version of a book may have an extra chapter, or the target exclusive version of a video game will have a special steel book with it, or the Best Buy release of a vinyl record will be a certain color they’re not stopping the production they’re just limiting production, upping prices and gouging in the Collectors market..

Buy the physical media while you still have time! One day even the crappy sports games could be rare! :)

@MediaFeverPitch

5 ай бұрын

Sports games tend to be worth nothing initially but I've heard of a few sports games that have went up in value especially college sports. I like to keep the last release of every generation for basketball games.

Of all the streaming services but when I want to watch a movie it’s always $3.99 extra

@HoLeeFuk317

5 ай бұрын

There's so much free stuff available paying for streaming doesn't make sense. If I spend anything on a movie it goes towards a physical copy.

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Happened to me, wanting to watch ELF for Christmas 😞

Then in 20 years when we have the physical games that don’t exist anymore and that generation wants them we will be “Clocking up the dollars.”

I was watching Disney Plus a year ago to show my kids Davy Crockett. Guess what? Warning label pops up saying we do not agree with this movie, etc.. Are you kidding me!!!

Even with the disc, you have to download and install the game these days. It’s wild.

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it happened when I wanted to play red dead redemption on ps4!😞

@kylehoschar5309

5 ай бұрын

you're just downloading it off the disc...because it is compressed on the disc and uncompressed once you install it...has nothing to do with the internet.

One thing thats never brought up is if your internet drops off you can still play physical. Also another thing that got on my nerves when and why did instructional books stop being a thing

@joshnewman6667

5 ай бұрын

I miss the posters too

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Yeah definitely something cool to bring up! 🫡

@joshnewman6667

5 ай бұрын

@@pluspixel thanks

If movies, games, music and books become digital only then my cash will be vapourware.

I am buying physical copies of all my favourites on , xbox 360 ,xbox original , ps3 ,ps2 and ps one. I never knew how precious phycial copies were as a kid..wish i kept everything I used to own

Great conversation, I just love having the game or movie to hold in my hands. Something tangible that I can look at and know that it’s mine. I’d be really sad to see it go away and totally agree that 20 years from now, people will wish they had it when they can no longer find it.

@thelastdragon5551

5 ай бұрын

Movies for the most part comes FULL. Games, not so much.

That’s the way physical media go

Modern physical game ownership is very different than retro physical game ownership. These days all you hold in your hands is a license to access the content even with that game card or disc. It saddens me deeply.

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Physical media will hopefully be on the rise!

@duke_8747

5 ай бұрын

What about nearly every game releasing and not the whole game is on the disc. If they ever shut those servers down you essentially have nothing.

@MediaFeverPitch

5 ай бұрын

I agree I try to wait for complete editions of the games and lately if I buy a game I try to see if it will actually boot up before I add any patches. I definitely think if a game has a complete edition it should come with enough discs to have the whole game on disc to preserve physical games.

@ApolloT-vp5dn

5 ай бұрын

@@duke_8747 Where are you getting nearly every game from? It's actually the majority of games that are on the disc. But even with the idea that patches are needed for some games, a physical copy is STILL yours that you can trade, lend or borrow.

@kylehoschar5309

5 ай бұрын

That's absolutely not true at all I can disconnect my PS5 from the internet right now and play every game I own to completion.

I really hope we stay with physical ownership.

It needs to be the "Super Switch"

The biggest problem with digital media is when the company don't pay for the rights to a game 4 years after we pay for it we lose it even though we paid full price for it. Microsoft and Sony have done this to me many many times that's what makes me skeptical on digital only Also the fact that if you have no internet connection you can't play your library of games.

I dont have loads of money to keep buying and buying. If i have a physical disc, i can sell it, trade it etc when done. Digital is horrible for me, and it means Sony etc can have sole control of their pricing. Currently i can check several stores to get the best price on a game. If you can only get from one digital store, you have to abide solely by their prices. Which means they could hugely increase the price and you have to pay it or never experience the game.

I never buy digital. You can never sell it. Physical can be sold. Sometimes for way more than you paid.

Ya he right about that, need to help preserve history with a lot of this

Man! I love this show!

I have allot of CD's and DVD's, because I also want to actually own it and I have older PC Games. But nowadays it's impossible to own new games on a CD and even if you do they make you install a program and make you download an update to play it so you still don't own the game. I try to spread my games library amongst EA, Ubisoft, Steam because I don't trust them and I think they will try to screw us over. EU laws on certain things are pretty good. So I'm trying to get in contact with the right people in the EU Parlement, because a law is needed that says virtual items are my items... So I don't get robbed by scumbag company's or that all of a sudden they will try to make me pay a monthly/yearly fee to acces the games I paid for. I'm also saving all my digital games so hopefully they still work offline, but what happens when they stop making USBs and External Harddrives for computers? Because the plan is to get everything including your OS on a magical cloud.. Which is just a server farm. I've had an education in IT and 10 years ago I was already tought the steps of how things will change. The idea in the future is that you only own a computer screen and everything else is on the cloud and you own nothing, just like now you don't own Word or Adobe you rent it and pay monthly/yearly fees.. You used to be able to buy a keycode for life

So cool to see Billy on the show! Shady Jay get in there!! 😅🔥🔥🔥

What peaks my interest about switching to 100% digital is the taxation of it. When I buy a game digital, it’s not taxed. The thing that scares me though is digital can be more expensive than physical; IE Madden football. If I want last years version to save money, it’s still 70$ vs $12 somewhere in a clearance bin

Phoenix Resale has gained some weight

if Billy don't fart on this show We gonna riot!

I think boutique labels will keep physical movies and games alive. As long as there is enough of us around that keeps buying them, they'll stick around. I'm exactly like Billy. If there's a movie I'm interested in even if I haven't seen it, I'll blind buy the Blu-ray/4K so have the best possible first experience.

@thelastdragon5551

5 ай бұрын

Although places like Best Buy, Target and perhaps Walmart (following last) will at some point stop carrying movies on disk, I feel it would still be produced and sold online somewhere like Amazon. Why would a movie produced the highest fidelity in video and audio quality if it’s gonna be compressed for online streaming? Unless fiber optic internet is available EVERYWHERE to be able to handle the downstream.

@MediaFeverPitch

5 ай бұрын

I only blind by if it's a genre I like, an actor I like and a director I like! but if there's any question I'll stream first because $25 is a lot of money and I have to pick and choose because there's a lot of things I want to get, old and new.

@ApolloT-vp5dn

5 ай бұрын

@@thelastdragon5551 Only Best Buy!

I like to be able to physically touch my media. Being able to look at the case real quick and know what it's rated or if it's multiplayer. I also like to let my friends barrow my games and movies. Oh and if the internet go's down you can still use your stuff.

dude that phantasm III box in the back is so dope! is that a japanese VHS? I love the phantasm series

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Kris has some very crazy rare stuff!

One thing we can count at least for the foreseeable future, is the community on pc. At least they will try to preserve access to games, movies, and music.

Billy needs to become a permanent guest. You guys are all great, but he adds something different in a great way.

Billy the goat !!!!

03:29 Yes you can stop disney from ruining everything by not giving them $$$. Don't sub to Disney plus, don't buy the games/toys etc. I will reward them with $$$ when they put out something that's non-political and has a good story. For example I went to the movies and saw Guardians of the Galaxy 3 and it was good. Reminded me of pre-covid era MCU when it wasn't about race and gender ideology but a good story with characters you actually care about.

Pixel squad!! 😎👊🏻

WE GOT ANOTHER VIDEO !!!!

Series X is very available here in New Mexico

I have always tried to buy physical when available but lately been buying a good bit of digital stuff on Switch. They have just a really awesome selection of arcade titles like from Neo Geo that would be crazy expensive, or not even available, otherwise. Hoping my Switch lasts for a while! Seeing some titles that have already been pulled from the store and I missed out...

@thelastdragon5551

5 ай бұрын

I’m just scared of the Lithium Ion batteries the Switch needs would not be produced in the distant future. Those batteries can randomly inflate and be useless.

@MediaFeverPitch

5 ай бұрын

I think those neo Geo arcade titles are cool and I've got a couple. Some of them I'd rather just play on emulation when I'm feeling the itch.

@CrawlingPanther

5 ай бұрын

I have a lot of them on my PC too so it wouldn't be the end of the world if/when the Switch eventually is done. The Switch just allows them to be played on the go

We are in a new reality boys. The (younger) general public does not care about physical media at all. Game companies gonna get their bag regardless if it's physical or digital, so there's really nothing stopping them from going full on digital. A game like GTA6 is gonna be the real test for ALL companies to see how well a heavily desired AAA title will do on digital sales in this generation. We just hate this stuff because we are the old guard and we know that these companies are taking the younger generations for a ride with the digital stuff.

I wouldnt mind if movies all went digital, but my problem is the audio quality is better on the Blu-ray. On a nice home theater system i can tell the Blu-ray sounds better than the same movie on say Netflix.

Are there more games being made today than back in the day?

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Would be interesting, might have to bring this up in a future topic with some research!

How do we save it?

If Nintendo doesn't call the next Switch.. The Super Switch...then they will have missed a huge opportunity.

Look what happened with Alan Wade 2 they didn't do a physical copy at all and sales are suffering even though it's a 9 out of 10 game granted Alan Wake 2 in GTA V are very different in terms of how many people are interested but still people like us that don't do digital can hurt the bottom line of these companies

The biggest (and pretty much only) video game chain store in the UK (called ironically Game) have just announced that they will be stopping accepting second hand games and consoles from next month. New games only from now on as they are diversifying into toys and other things rather than just video games.

@ApolloT-vp5dn

5 ай бұрын

The reason isn't about the viability of trade-ins however, it's that they are moving to the Sports Direct till system which had no method of utilising trade-ins for their stock/costing system.

I personally still buy physical media. Mainly video games and dvds/blu rays. Digital is not a great option cause I live in the country and internet is hit and miss sometimes. I'll buy physical any chance I can if there's an option and pay a little more even.

It’s similar how Apple removed the headphone jack, didn’t include chargers and removed plastic. We just get used to it after a while.

I appreciate physical media, but I don’t have the luxury of having a spare room to house the stuff I want. Living the expat life for 13 years working around Asia and Europe, having a game collection digitally is awesome. My annoyance is that without the logistics of printing manuals, shipping and online stores taking a smaller cut than retail (still too high considering their overhead is less than half of a brick and mortar), the prices shouldn’t match physical media. Most publishers have good discounts if you patient, but some, like Nintendo really don’t. Older apps that become abandonware needs to be able to be backed up better. I worked on some iPhone games back in the day. They are trash, but it’s memory. When my 10 year old iPod touch kicks the bucket there is no way of backing that up. None of my back up apps work on it. And when I transferred the files from my iPad mini, it just had a weird trial period where it would transfer the file, but not give me a back up. There are old iOS games that there are no way of playing anymore. There was a surprising good scene before the IAP model became the go to.

At Some point MFGs will stop creating physical media, the first will be the difficult but it will be the norm. Companies already hate the reseller market because they do not get a dime for the resell or the media. You get rid of it and they get all of the funds.

I only buy digital on sale. Not gonna pay full price for something thats tied to an online account they can ban you on.

You think we could file a class action lawsuit if they all suddenly flip to digital? It's tough cause like mentioned all the Eshops were told to us in advance it was shutting down but just switching to all digital is obviously anti-consumerism.

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Idk would be interesting but don’t know how all that stuff would work legally lol

@carlosmarto9375

5 ай бұрын

there's no way to take legal action, that's the consequence of everything having rights and owners, if microsoft wants to release hellblade 2 as digital only, it's morally wrong for collectors?? maybe but legally there's nothing wrong, companies can deliver entertainment as they wish, if most consumers are ok with digital only, good for the publisher they made the right decision movie studios won't even release some finished movies for a tax write off, it's their property after all

@vivithegr8389

5 ай бұрын

@@carlosmarto9375 I kinda figured but I wasn't sure

I think Super Nintendo Switch would be cool but like Riff said people will think it’s just an upgrade like the Wii U and that’s going to hurt them! Maybe something like a second port like a ds or something that the switch carts fit into

PC has already gone mostly digital. Didn't MSFT have a leak on the digital only "Series X"?

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Would not know the answer to the leak. But your right PC is pretty much digital, but what about the common console consumer who has been buying physical for years? Do you think they stop soon ?😅

@kryptoniite_

5 ай бұрын

@@pluspixel i won't be stopping any time soon. i have been a huge game pass advocate, but for the last 6 months I've gone without it and just bought the games physically instead. The price of gamepass will be double or triple soon IMO. Pretty sure it's already doubled since first launch.

I really think physical media should stay. If it does not do not charge full price on digital games or movies.

Pixel Game Squad Game Chasers Unite

There's already a large part of the gaming industry that has done away with physical media entirely and a lot of gamers that just do not care. A lot of blockbuster titles released through Steam and exclusively on PC (or XBox Game Pass) come to mind. Even when they get physical releases for PS4/PS5, I'd be willing to bet those sales are only a small chunk of the total sales.

What about these poor people who live in the country who have no access to internet and all these games are 100+ gigs to install! I live in a small East Texas town and know a lot of people living on the towns edge or country who can’t get internet access so are game stores gonna charge 60 bucks to to a install what about later or future updates?

The nintendo switcheroo

The shift from physical to digital media stands to exclude working class consumers from entertainment all together. Though I will say in my opinion it has made piracy easier than ever.

Yes blu ray or dvd 📀 ok.

I see ps5 and series x lined up at target lol

Look at the games industry today, and it's crumbling. • Thousands of layoffs just in the first month of 2024. • Pricing games $70 - $100. • Releasing games _(unfinished)_ as a live service model. • Cutting costs by not printing discs anymore. How much more obvious that the industry is crumbling? If both Microsoft & Sony go full digital, they'll turn tail and go against their word once they see the drop percentage in sales. Do you think zoomers are gonna be paying $70-$100 for nothing? I get it, zoomers are dumb, but this is gonna be a big test for the industry. Who truly speaks with their wallets. And of course, Piracy will always be there.

i’m betting switch 2 will be full digital but allow for switch 1 to continue and both consoles run concurrently. switch for lower end games and switch 2 for higher spec games

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Interesting, didn’t think that could also be an option if they do that with the next generation of switch!

Pay $80 online or $20 at a store for the same game?

Its called the NINTENDO W😲W it will release with Wowser's Wicked Realm.

physical media isn't real anymore anyway. Since PS2 era. Every physical game now has updates, or patches. physical media is gone. Obviously you have something on the disc but how playable is it without the patches and updates that happen the moment you pop it in the console?

Physical media is so boring now. No manuals or inserts now, I'd rather buy old games and gaming magazines from the 90's.

Nintendo is already sneaking in "digital entitlements" disguised as physical games, none of them are first party games yet, but nonetheless they are doing it. I.E. Metal Gear Solid Master Collection Vol. 1, Batman Arkham Collection, Star Wars Heritage Collection, Oddworld Soulstorm, and others only partial deliver content on the card the rest are downloadable digital content. Retailers use box art that doesn't include the blue box on the front that said internet connection and MicroSD card required...would this practice be considered as "Bait & Switch"? What happens to these digital entitlements once the eShop is closed? MGS's EULA is nasty...it actually reads that they can remove the game for numerous reasons with no REFUND. Guess we won't own anything and be happy about it? Begs the question of what is actually owned property? Would love to know what Chris, a game store owner, would have to say about this since these games could be devalued for resale if the eShop disappears. What happens if I lose my entitlement rights and get that copy blocked but then go in and trade it in for another game and stick the loss to a game store owner? (This could really happen with the MIG cart and similar products hitting the market in the near future. Crap!!!! This is WAY too long.....sorry.

Awesome guest ! Where is shady J and what happened ylto your cousin

The end of physical media will drive the console and game prices extremely high, higher than covid did! It's sad that we're slowly becoming a digital society. I will never do digital. If I can't hold it I can't own it , period! And what of ur system crashes, if it's not backed up somewhere or in the cloud then it's just gone...FUCK THAT! Since finding pixel, game chasers, rerto rick, I've started my retro collections...I'm up to 10 consoles now. And starting to focus on buying up games! I'm not gonna get caught slipping again!

Alan Wake 2 and Baldurs Gate 3 went digital only and it didn’t stop their game sales.

@brdnl3

5 ай бұрын

Did hurt sales .. many like me didn’t buy because of no physical release

@felix-ve8jk

5 ай бұрын

@@brdnl3 a good percentage of people that play games like BG3 are on PC. The same for WoW.

@brdnl3

5 ай бұрын

@@felix-ve8jk and I thought they did release BG3 physically

@carlosmarto9375

5 ай бұрын

​@@brdnl3 but more triple and double a games are starting to ditch the physical release hellblade 2 is digital only, one of the most anticipated games of 2024

While GTA6 and COD can get away with pushing boundaries of going completely digital if they wish, Palworld could and should incorporate physical copies of their game and it would sell like gangbusters. It would at least raise awareness that physical is still a thriving market

@joshnewman6667

5 ай бұрын

Gta better have physical copies

@carlosmarto9375

5 ай бұрын

palworld sold more than 5 million copies on launch day, from a business perspective, there's no incentive to spend money on production and shipping if most consumers are ok with digital releases, which generate more profit for the publisher and studio

Let it happen. Eventually Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo will eventually learn that digital downloads will eventually ruin their bottom line.

Nothing beats just reading a psysical book, comic or newspaper to me... Also I prefer psysical women 😉

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

😂wild lol

It is on death row , prices are too high and it’s the same stuff over and over nothing new . I really look forward to the fan made stuff of retro collecting . Some fan made stuff is subtle and great and I rather buy that then retro games etc

They should call it the super switch

@pluspixel

5 ай бұрын

Haha 😂 just more super!

@kingsleyjackson8287

5 ай бұрын

@@pluspixelwhat about power switch

Super Switch.

I like ❤️ watching videos of Pixel plus so much 😀 sincerely Wayne hoxit 😊

the digital only video game console, will be the end of the video game console.

Death row??? Did physical media unalive someone???

The series S sell more than the X

And what about collectors? Think about how many collectors buy that insanely bad game just to compleet the full set? Collectors of games are only growing in my eyes and there are ALLOT of them. And what about collectors editions or limited releases? They gonne lose all the hype & specialty products around gamereleases if they go digital only. I really think they would screw themselfs over to go digital only with games cause honnestly the amount of people that would say: yoo only digital?! Ok nvm im out. Is actually allot bigger then ya'll might think in a worldwide perspective 😊

Chris, poor bloke, is going to have a heart attack, Riff 😂 but, this generation grew up with the height of digital only consoles. It's a cheaper market for manufacturers to make games available online, somewhat beneficial for the Earth too, with less plastic distribution.

@alexmendoza9984

5 ай бұрын

You are giving all the control to the companies, they can raise or lower the price. Basically renting(streaming) games, once you stop paying you are kickout.

@the_australian_viking

5 ай бұрын

​@@alexmendoza9984 We are not giving control. The price of an item is determined by a lot of factors; manufacturing costs, risk mitigation/returns, damaged items etc, demand, and competitors pricing, then you add profit margin on top.

@alexmendoza9984

5 ай бұрын

@@the_australian_viking I meant the after market, owning a physical you can resale it or traded. Digital catalog is easy for companies to control the market (unless illegal downloads). If they want to keep the games at 20 bucks they can, vs finding out in the swap meet for cheaper.

GTA 6 is such a terrible example *LOL* let’s ask about EA games, Call of duty games, physical is needed.

4k Blu-ray Discs are the best quality to watch a movie at home by far but only make up 25% of sales. DVD still has 50% of market. People don’t care about quality just price. Games are already almost all digital, even the disk needs an update from the internet. Best Buy just stopped selling physical media. It is going to end up like laserdisc and be niche.

@HoLeeFuk317

5 ай бұрын

The audio quality is also superior on a disc than streaming.

@kurtcult1908

5 ай бұрын

@@HoLeeFuk317 Absolutely but you need to spend $$$ to utilize an atmos setup. I have a really nice setup but most of my friends have sound bars.

@JesusSavesSinners

4 ай бұрын

You can Not make the Blanket Statement that 4K DVDs are the Best Video Quality because that is Simply Not True. In Fact why don't you do a KZread search on 4K DVDs. You will discover that there are Numerous KZreadrs that make Videos telling people Not to Buy 4K's because the Video Quality is subpar. They will tell you which 4K DVDs were poorly Manufactured. The Truth is if a Movie was Not originally Filmed in 4K than you should Not waste your money buying the 4K version. What you are buying is Not True 4K. You are Buying a 4K conversion. The Quality of 4K Conversions are typically worse than the DVD version. Yes many 4K DVDs being Manufactured are Worse than the DVD version. The Quality of 4K DVDs vary Greatly. The Truth is Only around 1,000 movies have been put on 4K (I heard that number from a Movie Industry person. Let's say 2,000 Movies have been put on 4K.) The selection of 4K Titles compared to DVDs is extremely small in comparison. There are around 50,000 thousand available Movies on DVD. 5,000 Blu-ray Movies are available to Buy and around 1,000 4K DVDs available to Buy. The Numbers I am giving you may vary a little but the Ratio is correct. Standard DVDs are by Far the #1 format because that is what the Movie Studios are selling. Most people don't want to pay up to $100.00 to Buy a 4K Movie (Some New 4Ks for Sale cost more than $100.00) if they can Buy the same Movie for $10.00 on DVD. If you Buy a Brand New DVD, Especially of a New Movie and play it the Video Quality is Outstanding. That is if you have a High Quality 4K DVD player and a High Quality 4K TV. All New 4K TVs and 4K DVD players upscale Standard DVDs to Near 4K Quality. They All claim to do this. They claim to upscale All Media to 4K Quality. It is Not True 4K but it does look Incredibly Good. In fact many of my DVDs Look better than some of the 4K DVDs I have bought. Panasonic 4K players even convert SDR to HDR.

Please stop giving this scammer Billy a voice on your podcast. I had backed his Movie and Seasons 1-5 on Blu-ray for over 3 years ago. I don't trust his excuses anymore. FIND ANOTHER COMPANY TO PRODUCE THE DISCS BILLY.

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