The backbone of the internet advertising industry 🤣

@poprawa

2 жыл бұрын

1usd per 500 thumbs up on this comment, sing up right now to get 200 more on first order

@samuelclemens6841

2 жыл бұрын

Sad but true

@FIXDIY

2 жыл бұрын

😃😃

It's every Twitter user you ever thought was real, in a box.

Seems like the kind of device you'd use for automating click farms. One button to refresh the screen, the other to hit a like/dislike button or something like that.

@aserta

2 жыл бұрын

Nah, those are massive frames, we're talking 20x10 phones and a poor sod in front of them, with as many accounts to click "like". This is for testing purposes. I think that feller in China who does iphone stuff saw it in a market at some point or mentioned it.

@NiHaoMike64

2 жыл бұрын

Or just use adb to inject touch events? (Actually did something like that many years ago to automate a game, one that required way too much playing of the same level over and over again to level up.)

@timturner7609

2 жыл бұрын

Its really useful in software development if you have a bug in your pos menu system or something. The ability to run a sequence to replicate a bug and thus 100% know its fixed is super handy. At my last few jobs we've had our own in house versions of these that just emulated the touchscreen inputs in software, but we had the luxury of connecting an additional USB device. Id imagine something like this would be especially useful for tablet/phone system development.

@Bubu567

2 жыл бұрын

It's cheaper to pay a person in a third world country. They will work on commission for basically peanuts, so there is no risk, profit guaranteed. Also, bot prevention doesn't work if you don't use bots.

@cleverca22

2 жыл бұрын

@@NiHaoMike64 ive played games that refuse to even start if adb is enabled

So that's maybe why some Chinese platforms use a slider style Captcha - to lock out clickers.

Mike - great to see you are publishing vids again. Long overdue and much appreciated.

So they dont use mini sausages and mechanically acutated cocktail sticks then

@dimitar4y

2 жыл бұрын

underrated

@SeanBZA

2 жыл бұрын

The workers would eat them, or the rats would.

Very interesting device! I once had to make an automated test fixture to test an array of capacitive proximity sensors - I used a pair of signal diodes in series with an electrode connected in the middle, reverse biasing the diodes makes the electrode float, a forward bias makes the electrode a low -Z path to GND.

Glad to see you posting again. easily some of the best teardown and Analysis videos on KZread

Your thumbnail should have been it clicking a "I am not a Robot" box ;)

Three videos in a row? Is it Christmas already?

@rpriesol

2 жыл бұрын

yea, it forced me to change patreon from 10 to 5 per video :D

I've seen a self built version of this a few years ago. The guy used an arduino with a BJT (if I remember correctly) to set the ammount of clicks. He then sandwiched the lead coming from the BJT between the display and a penny. This worked fine and I was stunned! After seeing this video, I dug deeper into the inner workings of capacitive touchscreens.

@sethkazzim731

Жыл бұрын

Do you have a link?

@kennyfication88

Жыл бұрын

@@sethkazzim731 sadly not, I searched for it when I saw this video, but I cant find it anymore :(

@luc6225

Жыл бұрын

@@sethkazzim731 kzread.info/dash/bejne/daB6tbeRlcW_Z7Q.html

Quite an interesting overengineering project - I was expecting a simple 'tie to ground' sort of approach with a conductive pad in the tip but this is engineered to not fail regardless of the phone and environment. Absolutely lovely

@mikeselectricstuff

2 жыл бұрын

Don't think a cap to ground would work - the capsense screen is multiplexed, so needs a link between specific rows/columns

Thx Mike , you always find something unusual and/or fascinating to share.

The detection on the phone is probably adjusted to the way people try to touch items on the screen. Relatively, your finger tip is quite large and it's hard for us to touch small things with the center of our finger tips. So your phone attempts to predict where you actually want to touch, not the middle of the finger.

The phase inversion could be used to provide negative feedback instead of positive feedback to prevent oscillations

You can enable pointer location debugging info in the Android developer settings. To enable developer mode, go to "settings" -> "about phone" and tap "build number" until it tells you that the mode is unlocked. Now the developer options are available under the "system" section in the settings menu. The "pointer location" setting is very useful when testing styluses.

Watched a couple of adverts for these, and they seem to be popular for generating likes on live streams and click farming

@tinnturps

2 жыл бұрын

That makes sense

Thanks for the demo and explanations. I managed to make something that can electrically activate the touch screen. I used a reed relay closely connected to a circle pad on the screen. I could then electrically connect the pad to a ground connection.

great to have you back mike

Great to see you back making content

Thank you soooo much for doing this breakdown. Many application this could be useful for! Thank you.

Great walkthrough video Interesting implementation Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us 👍😀

is it possible to control it through arduino uno?

I think I'd prefer a sausage on a servo; has more of the IKEA-continous-testing look and feel. 😛

@JohnWatkinsUK

2 жыл бұрын

The Wobble Dog could manage 2 phones at once. kzread.info/dash/bejne/lXiFss9vaNLTiso.html

Thank you for the video Mike, very informative!

Mike, try rotating the phone instead of the e-finger?

Great content i bought same one product and measured it i think your schematic is correct . but pcb silkscreen is wrong V- should be +20V V+ should be -20V Thanks for sharing

Very interesting. Good to see you back.

What an awesome electronics invention.

Aren't Q1 and Q2 symbols swapped? Btw very interesting video as always Mike! Greetings from Italy!

@mikeselectricstuff

2 жыл бұрын

yes,well spotted

@slademcthornbody9060

2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes thought that was the case

@gianlucalocri

2 жыл бұрын

@@austi01101110 I see your point but the logic behind is wrong. Let's consider Q2. The Vbe bias is about -0.5V (that is strange for an NPN). Then even if a positive 3,3V pulse is applied at the base through the capacitor, the transistor cannot turn on because the collector voltage wold be negative with respect to the emitter voltage. If you use a PNP instead for Q2 (without swap the position of emitter and collector, but only reversing the "arrow" symbol on the emitter) it will work. In this case a negative pulse through the capacitor would turn fully on the transistor and the collector voltage wold rise to about 20V.

@gianlucalocri

2 жыл бұрын

@@austi01101110 I didn't mean to swap collector and emitter of each transistor, but to swap the entire NPN with the PNP and vice versa (in other words just flip the emitter arrow for each transistor)

Apparently one of the popular use cases is to press "like" (heart) on girls livestreaming, and the more you click, the more hearts appear on the screen. I'm not sure what it does..maybe gets their stream more popular? Or gets your name to the top of a list where they'll give you attention?

@mtx33

2 жыл бұрын

either way, you can bet it's always money...

im a bit surprised the goto method is not to nust plug something in over the usb and emulate a mouse or an external touch screen i could imagine this could be done with a cheap USB arm and a little touch screen but that might be detectable

Would be very useful for security testing of various aspects of password inputs

Would it simulate finger up gesture?

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing this.

Hi Mike, Could you explain me if is posible how you change the speed between 1,2,3,4,5 clicker ? I push the button right side for up and down but nothing happen, the click speed between 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5 ouput always is the same… what is wrong ?, I need more speed between 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 output in sequence mode… thank you very much !

Is it possible to connect these auto clickers (with jack port) to an arduino? if so, how? Thanks

Would this work on a laptop mouse?

I copy the new photos to the SD card, it takes a long time and the screen turns off, so I have to keep interacting with it to see when it finishes. Still, this tool would be an overkill...

What I would like to better understand is the circuit that generates +-20V. It seems it uses capacitors only, no inductors

@frankbuss

Жыл бұрын

It is not in the circuit diagram he shows, but the main device creates it, because the actual "fingers" are connected with the 4 pole connector (+20V/-20V/trigger/GND). He mentions it at the end of the video. Probably some cheap voltage regulator IC, with a SMD inductor. You could use a Cockcroft-Walton generator with only capacitors and diodes, but would need too many stages for this high voltage from 3.3V input. Just one of these cents cheap voltage regulator ICs and an inductor needs less parts and regulates even better.

Fascinating gadget, thanks for the video

Hi Mike...enjoy the way you tear things down to figure out how they work...very interesting as I do something similar. A wee question for you and your subscribers...I have recently tore a SPX AUTOBOSS V-30 Vehicle Diagnostics Computer down to find that a small chip is missing from an interface that seems to be causing the computer not to fully communicate with certain vehicles? I have searched the planet for it's part number etc and cannot find it anywhere or from any manufacturer? have you any idea how I would go about finding out what this chip is doing and a possible replacement/alternative part number...I'd like to get this unit fully operational if possible...my guess is it is some sort of opto coupler/isolator? the only info I can furnish you with is a part number/case style which is 24V infinity symbol (an 8 on it's side) SOT-6 case style. I haven't really delved into it much with a meter/scope etc. Maybe someone out in the world/one of your subscribers may be able to help out with this one? Thanks.

@samuelgalera4672

2 жыл бұрын

Busca un clon o sea otra computadora que esté andando y ahí vera que pieza le falta xd

@AureliusR

2 жыл бұрын

You'd need to show the schematic for that area of the board to figure it out. Optocouplers almost always have 4 pins, so if it's a SOT-6 then it may well be something different. If you want to know what it does, you need to reverse-engineer the circuit around it. It'll either be really obvious or really non-obvious, depending on what it's doing.

@whitenorthstar

2 жыл бұрын

@@AureliusR I cannot get a schematic for this item as it was made by one company and Bosh bought it over...its like chasing a rabbit down a hole! I have come across opto couplers with 6 pins as well...2 pins just not used...support/mechanical stability? I'm gussing i'm going to have to dig a bit deeper with meters etc...i just havent spent much time on it as yet but thanks for your suggestion...here in Ireland technical assistance/help can be a wee bit hard to find at time's and the internet is our friend! Thanks again.

It appears that you exceeded the maximum pool circumference

I’m wondering how the speed can be increased? 🤔

The problem of automatic touch occurs after changing the touch screen in general. And the solution is two ways. Either change the original touch screen. Or if the touch screen is of a separate type, a buffer is placed between it and the screen so that no interference occurs when pressing or touching. Whoever wants to understand more is welcome. I will post clarifications on this subject in the future, as well as experiences. I forgot that there is a strange third solution too...

@educationaltechnology8363

2 жыл бұрын

it's quite interesting I would like to understand more about it please I didn't understand how +- 20 v alternate according to the senesing transistors .In opamp I think it's easier to take a signal and give inverse voltage signal.and what's the this solution if you please?

epic quality content - thanks a lot for sharing!

could you trigger them in a way to scroll Instagram with only 2 probe? I tried with my finger... don't think it's possible

This could make a decent stylus input device for screens that do not natively support a stylus and you want more precision than those clunky fat conductive pens.

True, didn't knew it existed.

sneeky little gadget.

Transistor types Q1 and Q2 are flipped in your schematic diagram. Q1 must be a PNP and Q2 an NPN.

@izimsi

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if I see that correctly, the types seem to match, but the collectors and emitters are switched?

@mikeselectricstuff

2 жыл бұрын

yes, correct, well spotted

@debrainwasher

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikeselectricstuff You are welcome.

Hi, may i know which transistors used ?

@joeambly6807

11 ай бұрын

If you can't figure that out you don't deserve doing a design

The sort of thing I'd expect from Big Clive, very interesting stuff!

@envisionelectronics

2 жыл бұрын

Big Clive’s capabilities pale in comparison to Mike.

@stewartdahamman

2 жыл бұрын

@@envisionelectronics Harsh

Q1 and Q2 emiter arrows are reversed on the diagram.

@roopi67

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah noticed that, the npn and pnp needs swapping

I was watching the GE Talaria video and another notification popped up from Twitter

troll and click farm tools. thanks for sharing

I wonder if they simply used a MOSFET to connect a pad touching the screen to the chassis of the phone or earth ground? The pad itself would be small and low capacitance enough so as not to affect the screen when the FET is in cutoff, but when the FET is turned on then the capacitance from the display matrix to ground should activate the screen. I'm guessing that would not work because if it did they would have done that instead.

Clickfarms I'd guess. Seen videos of massive arrays of phones for gaming views/engagement.

Indeed

I watched this an clicked on the Thumbs Up button. Or did i? :-)

The amount of shady ass people in this comment section is hilarious

Hm, I thought you could simulate touch programmatically... I guess not always possible.

@0xMN

2 жыл бұрын

well, this seems to work out of the box with any device

@hansdampfig1245

2 жыл бұрын

Not if the app has some anticheat/antifraud stuff running

genius!

I suppose one use case is to repurpose an older phone and use it as an available radio modem. Another device can do .. whatever... And then communicate from a remote spot

Free up the cycle work of both hands.... yep. 👉😆👈

I'm wondering if this could make a pen for phone

@zebhall9229

2 жыл бұрын

Take a cotton stick, Q tip, or such, wrap it nearly to the end with aluminum foil, dip the cotton end in water, and voila, you have a stylus for your phone. It conducts the electricity from your body to the end of the cotton, the water helps the conductivity.

@tttuberc

2 жыл бұрын

@@zebhall9229 interesting idea. I think your suggestion would create dollar store pens (which has a metal body and a round conducted rubber tip where it touches the phone). That works like a finger, and it works fine but not precise. I'm more interested in precise touch like a pen which you can write neatly

@NekitGeek

2 жыл бұрын

Check "active stylus teardown" on KZread

lol. I guess that's something a game-cheat detction program can't do anything about. A physical bot instead of a software-based one.

@vgamesx1

2 жыл бұрын

Well you can detect that buttons are being pressed in the exact same XY position every time or that the screen is pressed exactly every 100ms or how odd it is that a person is playing for 24/7 straight, stuff like that which only a bot would do, but otherwise yeah that would be very hard to detect.

@svampebob007

2 жыл бұрын

@@vgamesx1 that's exactly what I was thinking, and also though it would be a big upgrade if they added in a sheet like fashion, where you have anything between 20-50 separate zones and just add a small vibration motor to "displace" each click by a tiny random amount. it would be at a slightly higher cost, but could be used to do a whole screen manipulation without any real moving parts. vibration motors might not bee even needed if you have enough zones, or if the software doesn't check finger position. The cost would obviously be more, but the potentials is far higher, given that you could simulate even more tasks with some clever programing.

@mtx33

2 жыл бұрын

@@vgamesx1 It's not the exact x/y position in every time, it depends on the scanning frequency of the screen and the momentary charge, it's an analog coupling from the screen's perspective, so you can bet it has some variance at leas a couple of pixels, and you can put some jitter to the timing too. It's far superior to some click emulators, is you want to detect them. You may can ban people who click to fast, but you will ban real people too and you will upset them really fast.

@kaluchigo2957

5 ай бұрын

​@@vgamesx1see

Very interesting.

How to win cookie clicker:

Wo kann man das kaufen wie heißt das Teil???? Danke

@WolfmanDude

Ай бұрын

Wrong language dude

I got 99 mining using one of these would recommend

great video, Can I also make this click once every 10 seconds or so?:)

@joeambly6807

11 ай бұрын

Why?

Where can I buy this?

@AureliusR

2 жыл бұрын

He quite literally explained where to buy it in the video. Just... actually watch the video maybe?

@joeambly6807

11 ай бұрын

If you can't figure that out, you don't deserve to buy one

interesting Thank you

That taleria has nothing on the engineering in this. How can this be designed, produced and shipped thousands of miles for pennies.

Runescape compatible

@DxMT

2 жыл бұрын

Still banable i used something like this for a few years then got banned out of no where lol.

is it possible to make it clicking 1 per every 10 minutes?! if yes please let me know sir !!

Oooooooooh ! This could be fun for Weight Lifting Simulator games on Roblox! Suddenly us little plant sticks become super strong and kill all the annoying ‘pros’ that kill innocent players !

Playing crypto games then saw this heheh boi

The amount of "tech for questionable purposes" that comes out of that country is amazing.

@brunocalhiari976

Жыл бұрын

Are you talking about USA secret services?

It seems like it would be easier to partially disassemble the screen and hook into the digitiser?

@drkastenbrot

2 жыл бұрын

thats very much not the case. hooking into the data stream between digitizer and processor and intercepting/faking the screen is quite a lot of effort and requires a lot of knowledge. this device is simple enough for anyone to use and gets the job done without any extra hardware.

@binaryagenda

2 жыл бұрын

@@drkastenbrot What about for more complex automation like scrolling and clicking arbitrary points on the screen?

@Mister_Brown

2 жыл бұрын

@@binaryagenda you can actually get this sort of thing to scroll, never tried with this implementation but it definitely can be done, slap a couple of $0.10 probes on a screen and you're good to go vs open the phone, attach a very sensitive circuit to the digitizer connections that can't possibly cost less than $1.50 and hope for the best. on a simple display with like an spi interface on a chunky connector maybe intercepting the display data would be easier but on a phone that puts the touchscreen controller on the mainboard good luck

@drkastenbrot

2 жыл бұрын

@@binaryagenda android has the "android.hardware.faketouch" interface to easily do that in software, using existing android debugging tools. theres already apps which let you record and play back touch sequences. On iphones i do believe something similar exists but this device seems more like its meant for somewhat unauthorized purposes.

Good for playing google chrome's dinosaur or "Tahu Bulat" game

@skrimper

2 жыл бұрын

Boiled chicken larva

I never understood the "clicker" style games because it's so easy to fake clicking on any electronic device.

What IS for?

@leef_me8112

2 жыл бұрын

To simulate a human touch of a phone screen.

At 4:20 you have a little editing mishap

ROBO Dialer

No entendí nada pq habla en inglés y tiene para ponerle subtitulos en ingles únicamente nunca en otro idioma

xbh

Bahan2 nyah bos apa ajh

An autoclicker app is easier and more versatile. Just one click away 😂

@mtx33

2 жыл бұрын

autoclicker Its a similar approach like why they don't use simply emulators instead of real phones. Apps can be detected or circumvented and they tend to need (at least) basic understanding and scripting to use them. This is on the other hand easy to use for everybody who can press 2 buttons and good luck to detect it from your application, it will "press" the screen every time a slightly further away depending on the timing and charge (nearly random).

You left duplicate cilps at 3:51 and 4:11, good old mobile phone interference :)

Use case: make shitty apple devices slightly less shit.

Invention that do nothing 😂

@mrk1747

2 жыл бұрын

and now there is an aplication auto clicker 😂

@bitelaserkhalif

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrk1747 using this can bypass auto clicker application detection

@mrk1747

2 жыл бұрын

@@bitelaserkhalif in aplication there is anti auto cliker detection

what a scam item...there are apps that do this and much more hahaha

@MaxUgly

2 жыл бұрын

My first though that is was used to crack peoples stolen or lost phones brute force style. I am not sure at what point an Android or Apple will lock you out totally so I could be wrong.

@sbrader97

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe the apps are more detectable as being a bot so they get banned or get the detected views or app downloads whatever removed

@leozendo3500

2 жыл бұрын

nah apple phones are locked down

@MaxUgly

2 жыл бұрын

@@1seb11 thanks, how is it done then?

@labscience8271

2 жыл бұрын

@@MaxUgly It's done using a Brute-Force-Attack software, not a clicker, and even then it's not efficient, since most phones will factory reset after (mostly) 10 tries. And if you consider devices that don't have that factory reset option - Since the auto-clicker is not programmable (Unless maybe you know how to), It's going to take ages if brute-force it. Most programs use a what's so called "a dictionary attack", which consists of frequently used phrases or PIN digits that the software is going to try one by one. Also consider that the device will be disabled (not allowing you to enter passcode) after 5 tries for 1 minute, after 7 tries for 5 minutes, and the 8th for 15 minutes etc. So you might miss the correct passcode. Considering all this, your probability to hack the phone using this method is very low. It might work on phones that have NO factory reset or disabling feature, but I don't know any devices that have neither options...

Cheaper than using slave labour in your click farm, probably 😉

Ahhh.... so you dont know how touch function works on screens.

TY . So basically humanity went down the drain ...What else is new...

@AureliusR

2 жыл бұрын

What does this have to do with humanity, in any way shape or form?

@cocosloan3748

2 жыл бұрын

@@AureliusR Focusing on "the most important things in life " ?

@AlessioSangalli

2 жыл бұрын

I need something like this to interface with an appliance (not a phone, not a screen, but an induction oven) in order to control it automatically. Can you explain why humanity went down the drain?

@cocosloan3748

2 жыл бұрын

@@AlessioSangalli Because of the way they earn money now ! Clicking to add more views and get add revenue.. We cant care about anything more meaningful - jut adds

what, you never heard of a capacitive touch screen stylus?

@mikeselectricstuff

2 жыл бұрын

These don't turn on and off electronically

You need to stop mumbling can't understand half the stuff you say

@willsmith4584

2 жыл бұрын

go be an ass on your own video

@JOEYZ-nq2gn

2 жыл бұрын

@@willsmith4584 KZread. Facebook. Twitter . Instagram My grandmother used to tell me stories about the old days, a time of peace when the Avatar kept balance between the comments But that all changed when the Trolls attacked. Only the Avatar mastered all four Platforms. Only he could stop the ruthless comments 🤦🏽‍♂️

@WolfmanDude

Жыл бұрын

@@JOEYZ-nq2gn I am very confused about your comment