Katana was done so dirty, I can tell most of the responses just were not good at katana and didn't understand it, wish more pros did this.

@webbycroissant5692

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I think most people didn't realize Katana heavily encourages patience. Katana is made to wait the perfect moment instead of taking risks. Just look at it's E and Q ability. Instead of pulling in the first enemy you see, you can wait for a support phighter to walk in your view. Or instead of using E whenever you fight someone, you can wait for the enemy to use an attack that makes it hard for them to see. Or even better, Katana can use it's tankiness to defend Hyperlaser and support phighters.

As an artist, I need a tier list on how fun they are to draw

@nohintshere

4 күн бұрын

i know this was 5 months ago but [looks at my 250 image biograft folder] it would be good if this had a video [stares at my 22 biograft ocs] yknow it is a pretty good idea [slowly steps in front of 50 drawings and doodle sheets that i alone have made of biograft]

I feel like most people who viewed a phighter as not fun simply didn't understand what is the point of playing them. All phighters are well designed and are each made for a specific role while also having unique playstyles. So obviously some of them happen to be polar opposites in pace and playstyle, which can put them under a bad light when seen by players of the opposite pace.

Completely forgot skateboard was a phighter and expected banhammer in the no.1 spot

@NiicoNexus

10 ай бұрын

Banhammer is a certified snoozer but I didn't say this

@spectrl

10 ай бұрын

i'm convinced skateboard players arent real and are bots

@i-laik-slingshot

9 ай бұрын

​@@spectrl yes. just yes.

@spectrl

9 ай бұрын

@@i-laik-slingshot glad they're getting nerfed hard

@sabberysabber

8 ай бұрын

​@@spectrltony hawk pro skater 2

personally i think all the phighters are fun in their own ways, there isn't really a "boring" character, just one that doesn't suit your playstyle. there are simple characters for less competitive players, there are slower characters for people who just wanna relax and have a good time, there are less damage-oriented characters for people who want to help their team in unique ways, there are fast classes for people who enjoy the thrill, there are high-skill classes for more competitive players

@wiredwe1rdexe985

6 ай бұрын

this. this is exactly how i would describe it. as a competitive-chill player, i enjoy all the classes (even if i've never used simpler ones like sword or rocket) and i see the appeal they have to other players. the best part is that there really is no "meta". just game. there may be certain map picks that are bad for certain characters (mahi resort 3.0 (laundry map) should get hit by a tsunami.) but it's still fun nonetheless! whether im bio or box, getting into the groove of phighting will always be fun. even if im not focusing on being competitive:)

sometimes i wonder if katanas actually have a thinking process or they just see someone who is preferably a support and pull him

@GrieferBT

6 ай бұрын

As someone whose secondary main is Katana it is usually the latter

@aradiapyrope9622

2 ай бұрын

Me personally I just do stuff and then immediately hate myself for not doing something else

I main skate and have since I started playing like 4 days ago. For me, Skate's calling is in being a nuisance to ranged characters/singled out characters and constantly getting in their face with your high mobility. Skate can finish off all opponents if they're low, easily 1v1 any non melee character from full health and do all of it whilst pulling off insane tricks. No other character had come close to my level of enjoyment from the ones I have played. Whole Skateboard appears to be non-beginner friendly, it did not take me long to learn his kit.

Free my girl vinestaff she aint do nothing wrong 💔

@user-ge1gt5cs7z

Ай бұрын

I actually think the sprout could be buffed with a larger radius and the ability to throw it instead of place it. Otherwise super fun character

Skateboard and hyper laser are very map dependant characters, with skate relying on open maps with ledges, and hyper with high and hard to get places that cover most of the map

As 2nd best medkit.medkit is really fun for me as the dopamine rush you get from getting heashots qnd landing youre m2 on teamates and enemies is really rewarding and timing the super correctly is high skill and a very high reward for youre teamates and youreself i mean of coirse i will have more fun as medkit beacuse i am very good with him

Although I dont main skateboard and have rough and rageful time while phighting anyone as him he is still one of my #1 favourite characters (the other is boombox) He is literally the reason why i joined this -hellhole- game

To be honest, every phighter is fun, but hyperlaser?? He’s so fun trying to aim while raging😭

I think it would be cool to do this again, but how fun they are to play against instead.

watchin this video, I feel most of the responses were mostly focused on how they/others play instead of how fun it is. For example, sword. Some people were talking about how sword’s lunge was annoying in them, instead of how much fun they had playing as him. idk.

I'm glad that I was able to participate in the forum!

:( Vine. Tbh I see what they mean, but they don’t know how tense it is until they play it and they’re chased by Bio.

@user-ge1gt5cs7z

Ай бұрын

You just die you can't run

@randomshipper-pe6br

Ай бұрын

If all the support mains in the fandom fought a team of all bios, the bios would win.

My thoughts on each class (as a banhammer main who does not read the move descriptions and instead opts to fuck around and find out): Katana: Playing as him: I played as him once and literally said in chat: "Wow, this guy seems really hard to learn and like I'm not playing him correctly at all!" and never played as him again. Playing against him: Ehh... Honestly, Ban Hammer seems to just kill this guy incredibly well. Sure, I'm close to low by the time I get him usually, because for some reason they always seem to have a pocket healer, or at least their teams healer tends to focus on them, (Seriously, what's with that? Am I the only one experiencing this?) but overall its one of the easier classes to kill for me. Vinestaff: Playing as her: ...I have literally never played this character once. I'm being serious; I just got good at Medkit and never thought "Hmmm, what's that Vinestaff girl like?" and I literally do not even know what she does. Playing against her: hehe funny sprout things on the ground, I'm gonna kill them. If we're talking about the class herself though? I try to kill her, and if her teammates aren't backing her up it's easy to do so, but for some reason teams always protect Vinestaff but much less so Medkit in my experience. Hyperlaser: Playing as him: OH MY GOD HOW DO PEOPLE PLAY A SNIPER CLASS WITH WINDUP BEFORE YOU SHOOT!? Playing against him: OH MY GOD, HE'S HERE, I GUESS I'M JUST NOT GONNA BE ABLE PLAY THIS ROUND!!! FUN!!! (seriously though, banhammer is such an easy target man... Slow as heck with pretty predictable movement? Check. Tends to be a big threat if not dealt with quickly? Check. Usually at low health due to his enemies trying hard to kill him? Check. BIG HITBOXES? CHECK.) Sword: Playing as him: Man. This moveset is kinda boring and basic. Also I got his badge on accident and this was literally my only time accidentally getting a badge- Playing against him: Man. How is it that every time I see someone playing this guy they have incredible ungodly skill at this game? His moveset is still really boring, though- Medkit: Playing as him: I do so much for this team and yet when I need them most, they're somehow anywhere but in a position to help me. SERIOUSLY, WHERE IS MY TEAM!??!?! I'm good at this guy but I don't find him fun in the slightest, because the gameplay always boils down to this for me: Heal your team, get cornered by the enemy team, "WHERE IS MY TEAM!?", die, repeat. No matter the gamemode, my team somehow conveniently disappears in time for the enemy team to kill me. Playing against him: Killing medkits is usually so easy that I feel bad. He'll teleport to his teammates, I continue chasing him, his team doesn't care in the slightest, and I get the kill. Biograft: Playing as it: I don't play as this guy often but when I do it tends to be pretty fun. Between last time I played him and now I learned that his Q actually has this weird dash thingy if you press Q again that instakills classes below 25% health and THAT'S how the game expects you to get it's badge. TBH, it probably will be even funner now that I know that. Not much to elaborate on here, it's a relatively simple (but not as simple as sword) melee class that can do some good damage. Playing against it: It's really funny when I find a random biograft who doesn't know how to not die to it's ult, hit it mid ult, die probably, only for me to get a post-mortem kill on it. Other than that, it can be annoying at times to play against. Rocket: Playing as him: Honestly, this is the sword of ranged characters in my mind. I honestly like ranged characters less, however, so I'd rank him lower than sword. It just doesn't quite get me excited to be sitting on like a high ledge, just shooting at the battle without really being in the heat of it. You CAN be in the heat of the battle with rocket, but it's oftentimes better not to when you can accidentally die do to your own splash damage. Just, overall, meh. His phinisher is kinda neat but it doesn't seem to do much usually. Playing against him: His phinisher feels the same both ways: cool in concept, not very effective in execution. Other than that, he's one of the classes that is surprisingly easy to catch up to and kill as Ban Hammer. His Q is just Ban Hammer's but less good and he's only slightly faster than Ban Hammer. An easy pick, so long as you aren't dealing with the rest of his team at once. Shuriken: Playing as him: hehe spy tf2 jokes aside, I can't really seem to flank the enemy team very effectively. It may very well be a skill issue or me not playing the right maps, but honestly I haven't really got to make use of his damage bonus from behind. His ability to throw 3 shurikens at once is pretty cool. His phinisher applies antiheal, which would be useful if it lasted longer THAN .5 SECONDS, like I swear this is barely noticeable at all if it weren't for the icon. Playing against him: I strangely enough don't see him very often on the enemy team. I only really see him on my team. And, weirdly enough, I LOSE EVERY SINGLE TIME HE'S HERE! I'm don't really know what it means, it's probably just inexperienced players who could be better used as a different class. That aside, though, when I do very rarely see him on the enemies side, he's usually not a threat. I can hit him pretty consistently, but he usually has like 3 different escape routes so I rarely bother. I leave it to someone else to deal with him and that seems to work. Boombox: Playing as him: OH MY GOD HOW DO PEOPLE FOCUS ON A MINI RHYTHM GAME ON TOP OF EVERYTHING ELSE YOU NEED TO FOCUS ON IN THE HEAT OF THE BATTLE- Playing against him: I leave him to the others, honestly. I can deal with his shield easily, but does his m1 have knockback or something? because I SWEAR, I CAN'T GET A HIT OFF ON HIM AND I FEEL SLOWER THAN NORMAL- Subspace: Playing as him: His phinisher is so satisfying, but the kill credit rarely ever goes to me. Other than that, it's pretty fun but I do tend to panic when people chase me. Playing against him: It's very satisfying just holding W+M1 at a subspace, because I can visibly see the panic in their movement, but then they just straight up disappear and I don't know how to chase them afterwards. His phinisher can get an entire team killed in Conquer. Other than that, I just don't have many thoughts. Slingshot (how is he up here): Playing as him: His movement is fun. That's it. His damage sucks when you don't charge his m1, but let's be honest here, WHO'S GONNA CHARGE THEIR M1 FOR 5 DAMAGE? his E is just biograft's E but it recharges normally, his Q doesn't do much damage and is confusing to use, his m2's basically just rocket's m2, and his phinisher is just Hyperlaser's but it isn't an instakill and a hyperlaser main who was defending their phinisher told me sling's phinisher has less range and can go through walls, neither of which really matter usually considering the fact I didn't even notice the differences. His moveset is just a combo of other's movesets but it all does less damage, and combined with the fact that ranged characters aren't really in the heat of the battle make this guy my LEAST favorite character in terms of playing as them. Maybe I'm missing something here. Playing against him: Somehow, I die to him at times. He's terrible to catch, I can't hit him because he just hovers in the air, and somehow it feels like I take more damage from him than I do as him. Don't really have a good answer to him. Skateboard (YES): Playing as him: INCREDIBLY FUN. WOULD RECCOMEND. He's not really good at dealing damage, though. tricks are fun, speed is fun, but in order to actually be helpful you need to get off your board, lose all your speed, use a kit with subpar damage for a melee class, and GET OUTTA THERE! A great thing about skateboard is the ability to choose your fights. (dunno if that's the right wording for what I'm tryna describe but I'll go with it.) it's incredibly easy to see a situation you're gonna die in, speed away, only to loop back around a few moments later when your enemies have lost health and say "Wait, nevermind, this is a great situation!" and pick them off. I have no clue if I'm explaining this correctly, though. It is really hard to learn how to balance your on board and off board movesets. Playing against him: Seems like a lot of people also don't know how to use their off board movesets, especially when they offboard while I'm at nearly full health and try to kill me. Like, seriously, what did you think would happen here? That, at full health, the melee class with the highest dps, would just crumple under your 30 damage AT BEST? Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's not how this duel ends! Yeah, Ban Hammer kinda counters skateboard just a little bit. (maybe I'll cover the two classes that released after this video later, but I just spent like 1 hr 45 mins cranking out the comment to this far)

@nohintshere

4 күн бұрын

my notes on this, as a biograft main and boombox/hyperlaser/shuriken/rocket/slingshot player: hyperlaser, playing: i move my mouse during the shot windup to hit the target better sword, general: he recently got a rework which makes him significantly more interesting biograft, playing: hitting Q also deals 10 damage by itself; i've gotten quite a few kills with it before, both intentional and accidental biograft, playing against: i feel sorry for everybody who's ever played biograft and had the audacity to use their phinisher in front of the enemy team and/or when they're already low on health rocket, playing: he works best as a mid-liner especially on conquer due to his amazing AOE damage + his Q, if used on top of an enemy, deals an additional 25 damage and can be used for some sick dps combos shuriken, general: skill issue boombox, playing: i used to almost exclusively play him since i have rhythm gaming in my blood (/mostly joking). the bpm of the m1 metronome is around 118, and hitting on every other beat of a 118-bpm song isn't too difficult if you're able to focus on it boombox, playing against: it does do knockback! it can deal up to 14 damage if fully charged and gives boombox himself +15% haste subspace, playing against: watch the trail their E makes and look around quickly to gauge their position if you still want to chase them slingshot, playing as: my general rule of thumb is to charge it just over halfway, which doesn't take as long as a fully-charged shot and deals 10-15 damage on hit. the Q ability fires shots which bounce off walls and (ideally) can either deal lots of damage to one player or hit more than one enemy at once. the slingshot phinisher can't be cancelled as easily as hyperlaser's since he gets twice the walkspeed for the duration of it, and it can hit multiple people at once despite doing less damage skateboard, general: he's best for flanking and picking off low damage enemies + being a general pest to people who don't know how to get him offboard or catch him while he's vulnerable i have nothing for katana, vine staff or medkit since i've never played them and i don't have any advice p.s. READ THE ABILITY DESCRIPTIONS YOU DINGUS!!! IT HELPS YOU I PROMISE

Absolutely loved this survey! Very interesting grading a character by fun and not viability. However, KFC is better.. even if it makes you poo funny sometimes

As a vinestaff main I am appauled

In my opinion, i love shuriken. It isnt the most required phighter in a team but it can be very annoying if you ignore the shuri’s, and i love that. Skateboard is more optimal for its speed but its big shurikens can be very deadly when used correctly.

Im actually pretty goood at skateboard and ik i can get ALOT better and its so fun!

I’m surprised people actually like biograft, damn

Not surprised that katana got least I don’t even wanna play katana cuz slow

@orcasss.

11 ай бұрын

I also personally think sword is boring cuz they r the most basic and plain ever

@novashin22

11 ай бұрын

im going to kill. i like katana because why would i want to think, i get to yell die at the people and cut them down

how is boombox higher than any of these? just turn off your brain, turn on your shield and walk around until people die (also katana does not deserve last lmao but whatever

@Hydris_Hydra5017

10 ай бұрын

It’s because it’s very nice when you get your rythme and become a menace to everyone. Also I like to chuck people off the ledge with the shield and along with how fun it is to make a epic comeback with the ult and save everyone with it. Also Q boosting can be super fun to play with on stained maps

@mridot9473

7 ай бұрын

i can see why you think katana doesnt deserve last considering you think thats how bb works

@theepikgamers

7 ай бұрын

@@mridot9473 some guy actually made me have hope for bb players about a month ago so we good (still katana doesn't deserve last)

If you ask me to play Hyperlaser for once, I will look at you crazy. I mean sure he’s a pretty cool looking guy with a crazy ass special and a rail gun. But honestly everything else about him is.. eh. Hyper is good and all but you never really see one actually get into the action. They’re either just in high ground, which *DOES NOT* help in Conquer or if they’re left alone a melee will come up and beat the shit out of them. Let's look at the other ranged phighters, Rocket is pretty good in close combat though self damage is not really a big problem. Slingshot is actually good for escaping seeing as you have a side-dash for E and you can walk on air for god’s sake. Plus their special gives them extra speed. Then we have Shuriken, arguably the best ranged phighter due to it’s good speed and the ability to literally clone itself to confuse you. But my point still stands. Hyperlaser’s honestly a *4.8/10* for me. *PLEASE DON’T ATTACK ME HYPER MAINS, also feel free to give criticism*

As a medkit main, what?

I have terrible anxiety and learning difficulties so katana is literally a godsend. Only character I can play but I’m ok with that bc he’s still tons of fun (although I do wish he had more than two skins for me to choose from). I’m super surprised to see him rank so low since he is my lifeline but then again not everyone is limited lol

@vaguelyfamiliar_

2 ай бұрын

katana has 3 skins…

@aradiapyrope9622

2 ай бұрын

@@vaguelyfamiliar_ one of them doesnt count bc its the ugliest thing ive ever seen in my life and id rather remove my skin with a vegetable peeler than ever spend anything on it

@vaguelyfamiliar_

2 ай бұрын

@@aradiapyrope9622 skull with crossbones emoji

@cereal8193

2 ай бұрын

​@@aradiapyrope9622 moaitana?

Why do you sound like resetharmon?

WHY IS SUBSPACE HIGHER THAN BB OR MEDKIT GRR

@Symbyll

8 ай бұрын

funnmie trimpmine :>

@mridot9473

7 ай бұрын

tripmine go brrrr

as katana main-katana is fun,just voters dont understand that its more than m1 only. Banhammer would be 10 times more boring. Also yes im hyper,suriken and katana main so i know what i talking about and my level is above 180

Yelling crying as a rocket and shuriken main

why is npesta in the thumbnail

I'm good with boombox probably because I play some rhythm games.

@nohintshere

4 ай бұрын

i play rhythm games constantly and maybe that's why i find boombox so fun to play

why wasnt banhammer in this

@aradiapyrope9622

2 ай бұрын

Banhammer was added to the game after this video was made

Medkit shouldve been higher ;-;

@westform22

7 ай бұрын

man I love being useless half the match

@I_Am_Grumpee

7 ай бұрын

@@westform22 teammates will run in without a plan as if I can heal them to 100%

popeyes is better

i hate this community SLINGSHOT #2?????? god fast movement sucks when you can only deal SIX DAMAGE

@the_real_skateboard

7 ай бұрын

did you even know that slingshot can charge up his m1 also slingshot kind of acts like a ranged skateboard, insanely irritating chip/burst damage while being hard to hit is a thing between the two

@westform22

7 ай бұрын

@@the_real_skateboard yea but at the end of the day it's still slingshot