honestly i'd love another musical about erik and raoul reluctantly learning to be co-parents to gustave

@captaincrunch784

Жыл бұрын

POTO cinematic universe

@ryanb4940

Жыл бұрын

And ending up finding love again… in each other.. 🥹

@gaiusjuliuscaesar8450

Жыл бұрын

Phantom is about to punjab lasso one of Gustave's teachers for being mean to him and Raoul goes "ERIK, NO"

@alexandersean4708

11 ай бұрын

Phantom 3: The wild and wacky world of raising a 10 year old with your arch nemesis. Also it’s an anime now, don’t question it, it’s the only medium where we could get away with a title this long.

@callumjohnston858

10 ай бұрын

"Erik, who the hell is this?" "Oh, this is the Persian dude that saved my life a couple times. He'll be crashing here for a while."

I firmly believe that this is Andrew Lloyd Webbers delayed emotional dumping of all of his angst after his divorce from Sarah Brightman. Man wrote the part of Christine FOR HER, it was inevitable he’d have baggage after their relationship went south.

@evieblue959

2 жыл бұрын

I think that you're right, and that's also shown a bit in how much more sympathetic the portrayal of Phantom became over time. Crawford to Karimloo is quite the evolution.

@chanteuse-ro3kf

Жыл бұрын

I think you're right.

@captaincrunch784

Жыл бұрын

I thought you wrote emotional humping LOL

@CindersSpot

Жыл бұрын

He started writing this in the year after her divorce (which was then turned into a book, Phantom of Manhattan) and it just wasn't fully realised as a musical until 2011. So I think you're onto something.

@chanteuse-ro3kf

Жыл бұрын

@@CindersSpot I think you are right.

POTO : the phantom freaks out and has a major melt down when a grown woman sees his face LND also the phantom - willingly takes his mask off in front of a 10 year old and gets offended by him freaking out....

@dar-nakkallig

Жыл бұрын

Hey, look at that character growth through those 10 long years... Lol

What's so hard to wrap my head around is the fact that the Phantom threatens her son and Christine (after her first reaction) is basically okay with that??? How do you still love him after that?? Like, yes, he regrets it later, but only after he learns that's HIS son. If someone threatened MY kid, that's an instant deal-breaker, goodbye, my man

Charlotta should've been the villain considering how Christine took her limelight and Eric killing her husband, I would be a bad guy too!!!!!!!

Just give the Phantom some years alone, the chance to maybe open his own opera house in America, veeeeery far from France, and to start working in management and songwriting behind the scenes. Mysterious opera man. Christine (with morally dubious Raoul turning out the way he does) is very aware of the music scene in Europe, but she only gets whispers of this guy after a while… and she wonders if, just maybe, it might be *him*… HER seeking him out, HER trying to get in contact with him, her trying to see him again. Hell, let them not even have the immediate push on romance! The Phantom still loves her, there's still a lot of care from Christine, but at first it's just an attempt to mend their relationship into some sort of partnership, a friendship, and then it grows. 'tis my proposal for non-threaten, non-Coney Island LND

I would live to have a proper sequel where Erik and Raoul had no choice BUT to team up and rescue Christine from an unfortunate circumstance. Can anyone recommend anything?

@juliyaavidor3965

Жыл бұрын

A solo for the living. An AMAZING fanfic

@leximarie9826

2 ай бұрын

Yes! Love that! Maybe where the shar of Persia comes back trying to hurt the phantom again cause he finds out he is alive and used Christine as bait to get him to come…

I've seen so many reviews and commentaries about Love Never Dies, but honestly, I don't think I've ever seen anyone cry at the end because of how horrible Christine's life has been. I've seen a lot of people cry because their Phantom/Christine dreams didn't come true, but you're right. It's an awful ending, because Christine never gets to break free of the cycle of tragedies that is her life.

Ramin's performance in that video actually made me (temporarily) forget about Michael Crawford's Phantom.

I have a much more favorable view of Raoul than you(I understand why some aren’t a fan but his moments in the finale lair always get me) and all I’m saying is if my spouse was still thirsting after the man who tried to kill me maybe I would also start drinking but also there are so many little things that get me, like I know Gustave is supposed to be the phantom’s kid because plot but are we just gonna act like there was no musical talent on Christine’s side of the family???

@heyzeereey

Жыл бұрын

I know music rans in Christine’s family because hell, her dad’s a famous violinist but Gustave’s a genius in music like Erik. He composes music through his head like Erik does. He sees the world differently like Erik does. He sees “darkness” as beautiful like Erik also sooo🤷‍♀️ Not to mention “He’s 10 years old” And to add, i’ve read a comment that Christine’s already carrying Gustave that’s why she married Raoul to avoid gossip. (I know, it sounds awful because it’s as if they made Christine just using Raoul😂)

I've been lucky enough to see Ramin Karimloo as The Phantom in Love Never Dies twice in London (2010 and 2011) and Ben Lewis as The Phantom in 2018. Ben Lewis was very powerful in the role.

@LingLing_Wannabe

Жыл бұрын

Ohh my gosh I would LOVE to see Ramin live 💕 He’s absolutely amazing

@unkn0wnhuman

8 ай бұрын

Ben Lewis and ramin are both AMAZING phantom I saw ramin 3 day ago in Milan and this was gorgeous !? I also Inlove with Ben voice and performance in lnd ❤

Lol'd at the idea of Weber's cat "accidentally" deleting the original score for Phantom Never Dies from his electronic piano. I'm guessing the cat was trying to tell him not to do it? ;)

his cat should have tried harder 😭

@wittyblonde6728

4 ай бұрын

EXACTLY!! 😭😭

Hello, first off, I am here after your phantom video, and I loved both that one and this. I feel like we are kindred phantom spirits. I know I'm here late, but. I thought I'd share a thought I have had for many years. In the song, Before the performance, Christine sings to Gustave, "Once this performance is through, we'll spend some time just us two. Won't that be fun?" In my opinion, after her performance, Christine was going to leave Raoul and Erik (the phantom) behind to raise Gustave on her own. I think an easy fix to make the musical better would be for Christine to pick her son and herself over the two troublesome men in her life and leave. She never sings love never dies, she never sees Raoul or Erik again, and she doesn't die for something that wasn't her problem. It would still be a sad ending, but it's sad because the two men she loved couldn't grow up and put her first above their own wants. Ultimately though, it's a better ending than what we got.

@ColeAndPhoebeForever

Жыл бұрын

Awesome! I love your ending, because people were ticked that Christine dies, including me. Maybe she, Erik, and Gustave will reunite in Heaven? Then all three of them will be "Angels of Music," haha!

Read the book that Love Never Dies is based on. It’s ‘the phantom on Manhattan’ if I remember correctly. He started as an architect actually.

I'm just so _tired_ of morally grey Raoul. Why can't he actually be, I dunno, a good man who's had time to grow and mature even more? Phantom is a monster, which is 1) why so many people find him intriguing and 2) why the ending is so impactful. A POTO sequel shouldn't be "oh and actually the good guy's a bad guy and the monster's actually a fine choice." If you want a sequel, I think something where the characters _think_ Phantom's done something, but he's innocent, is fine. Perhaps Christine's child goes missing, and they think the Phantom killed/stole him, but it was actually a third party- Phantom escapes and tries to find him to prove his innocence, Raoul tries to find him because it's their kid, Christine is under threat and must perform? There, we've got drama.

@debayeuxchats5607

Жыл бұрын

I completely forgot I left this, put a fairly similar comment on the OG POTO video, came back and. Apparently I haven't changed in a day.

@cthefish

8 ай бұрын

100% agree!!

@Dreigonix

3 ай бұрын

So true. Let Raoul just be a good guy!

I hate how this musicals ruined Christine, Erik and Raoul. I have to admit that even for me Erik was more interesting than Raoul, at least in the musical Raoul offered Christine her freedom, love, peace. Erik during the play stalked her, murder people, theatrened to kill her boyfriend and many others, kidnapped her and almost forced her to marry him. I know he is a tragic character but his final alone with Christine free and with Roul the one who actually she loves was perfect it goes with the "when you love someone, let it go, you want that person happy even if it's not with you". Looks more like a AlW fanfic with Sarah

my favorite lil thing is in the stage production with the original cast was erik shows up for devil takes the hindmost without his mask

@antichristuwu

Жыл бұрын

you gotta watch the london “”slime tutorial””

I found the “Coney Island” setting weird but I honestly didn’t hate it but I think it would have been better if Ramin and Sierra could have been in it.

One of Meg’s back up dancers played Christine in Andrew Lloyd Webber’s The Phantom of the Opera - Claire Lyon.

Ok so brainstorming. Phantom builds all these small chapels and eventually gets commissioned to create this concert hall in New York. (Still in New York just not Coney Island). Christine is asked to perform there (famous opera singer and all) but Raoul is hesitant about her going but since they need the money they decide to bring the whole family from Paris on a sort of vacation. She hears rumors in New York City about the mysterious architect that nobody has seen before. He is commissioned for a building and leaves blueprints (in excruciating detail) in the home of the commissioner. Madame Giry delivers these for him and in return he organizes for Meg to be the star playing in the theatres that he has built. Of course Meg would be self conscious that she’s not actually earning her place. When Christine arrives, she freaks out and keeps trying to do bigger and bigger acts. Christine is backstage touring the concert hall/ theatre she will be performing in and her son finds a sort of secret passage reminiscent of the ones she had been through in the old Paris opera house. He has found that a mirror opens up into a hallway. He runs in and turns a couple corners before he finds phantom. Christine soon notices that her son isn’t in the room and calls out for him. He’s not responding but she finds the mirror not to be flat against the wall she opens it up and follows to find her son running back to her crying. He explains how he saw a man with a deformed face and the story picks up from there. Anyway there’s an option of another way to get people there.

I have an idea on how to fix this show! So, at the start, 2 ushers dressed as soldiers stand at each door and fake pat down the audience members, but otherwise it’s all the same until the very end, where Christine and Erik successfully talk down Meg, and go to the balcony to celebrate. They decide to sleep together again, and sing Point of No Return from the original, but it ends with Christine unmasking Erik, and the soldiers charge down towards the stage as a bunch of pyrotechnics go off, Erik drags Christine offstage, and then a curtain comes down that says “Don Juan Triumphant” with an actor coming out and placing a little sign that says “Please Stand By.”

“mY liTtlE brAINwoRMs WanNa pLAY a diDDy” i choked

Andrew Lloyd Webber originally said it wasn't a sequel but then later said it was. However, unlike The Phantom of The Opera which is based on Gaston Leroux's novel, Love Never Dies is based on a book called The Phantom of Manhattan. It's not by Gaston Leroux. Hence, Love Never Dies basically happens on a different tineline that does not coincide with the original Phantom of The Opera musical. So it is a sequel to Phantom in the sense it's his follow up, but it's not a sequel since it is based on The Phantom of Manhattan. These are different characters altogether.

From what I understand, the show went through quite a few changes in the early stages, and suffered from from being quite saggy. An early review was titled: "Paint Never Dries." (So clever!)

Someone who thought this was superior to the original Phantom gifted me this Blu-ray- I bailed when the rock song "Beauty Underneath" began. I have never sat through the whole thing.

This would have done better as a stand alone rather than a sequel

@mysterykiddo2167

9 күн бұрын

Agreed!

Its like the tragic ending was just thrown to the trash with the way the Phantom forces himself to Christine...

I actually love beneath a moonless sky as long as I try to forget it’s about Christine and erik😂

As flat-out weird as the plot is, I do think that the cast recording with Ramin and Sierra was really good. At least their songs specifically were. Nothing will top Ramin’s phantom for me 🫶

Aside from the character assassination of Christine and Raoul in this story. Here's the reality. Christine has nothing to "love" about the Phantom. Why? Because she never knew The Phantom, she never knew Erik. Anything she respected or could have 'loved' was based upon a lie, and tied to the fact she felt he was an angel sent by her father, or some kind of representation of him. The ONLY thing she knew of Erik was that he was murderous psychopath that lied to her whilst pretending to be something he wasn't. Erik "letting them go" doesn't tell Christine anything about him other than he was a murderous psychopath that let them go. That's it. Their entire history to that point had been based upon lies. She doesn't know diddly squat about Erik, so there's nothing for her to grasp onto that's true aside from "Well at least he didn't kill me and my fiance." Even if you want to go with "But Music of the Night is so sexy..." that is still Erik pretending to be the representation of her teacher and father. So Erik is still wearing the mask he hopes entices Christine rather than actually being himself. So in reality, Christine doesn't know squat about Erik, she never got to know "Erik", just who he was pretending to be in order to try to nab her. There is *nothing* to love, when everything is a lie. Having her "get with" him, or even "choose" him is the kind of story telling that has convinced men like him that one thousand "No"s are eventually a "Yes" in disguise. So the idea that she'd even want to be with him stems from nothing more than one incel writing a story where the other incel is desirable and "wins" because he felt angsty over the fact he cheated on his wife with a younger woman and left her, and that years later she didn't want him back. So he decided to destroy the character he created for her because he couldn't destroy her. There's nothing to 'support' or 'ship' here. It stems from one person's desire to destroy the image of their wife that didn't want them back because they were the ones that cheated, broke her heart and left her in the first place.

@Dreigonix

5 ай бұрын

THIS. I respect ALW as an artist, but as a person? He’s not a tragic, misunderstood monster like the Phantom he uses as his self-insert- he’s _just_ a monster.

"Now Raoul, you have to live in sewer world!" Had me on the floor 😂😂😂

Great video. You're entertaining, your editing is great. Keep it up.

@LaurenPaigeSQL

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Arkieologist! I've been watching a lot of Premiere tutorials 😝

I'm going to see this in Theatre tonight!!!!!! so excited

Your musical commentaries were so pleasant. I’m happy to stumble upon them. If you ever return to these, know they are fantastic quality! 🎉

Trust me if you watch the Ramin version you wouldn't give a crap about how terrible everything is because all you focus on is him XD

@LingLing_Wannabe

Жыл бұрын

I fully agree, he’s absolutely amazing - perfection 👌❤

@catdragon2584

4 ай бұрын

I dunno, the awful writing is pretty hard to ignore…

You should watch the original London production of Love Never Dies. In it, you do get to see the Phantom’s face.

The ammount of hate you give to Meg after how much you praise Carlota in Phantom is a weird feeling to me. She's the same as Carlota in this show. She's worked, and sacrificed a lot about herself. She's not the same young sweet girl we saw in phantom, she's seen a cruel world and she stands it because she has music to sing, only to be broken down by a man that was only using her and end up killing her childhood friend in accident after trying to commit suicide. I honestly think she's the only good character development to come out of this show

I'm absolutely dying with your commentaries, both this one and the phantom's omg, you're hilarious sometimes it's genius! You've earned a new subscriber, can't wait to binge your videos!!

In the 25th anniversary there is a scene with Meg and Christine and you can clearly see in megs face that she wanted to be trained by the phantom and was a little jealous of what Christine was getting maybe the attention from the world who knows.

@wittyblonde6728

4 ай бұрын

Finally someone sees it! /j

Finally! Thank you so much. I've been waiting for this and I'm extremely satisfied with it. Compared to POTO, LND is way far below. It didn't have the same magic, thrill, and emotions that the original gave me. I was even bored at some point in the middle of the story, something that never happens whenever I watch POTO even though I've already watched it for a millionth time. The only thing I like about this musical is "Till I Hear You Sing", and the fact that Ramin and Sierra was the original cast. Oh, and fun fact, I found out somewhere from an interview that Ramin and Sierra was supposed to do this DVD version, but they refused. And that's how we got Ben Lewis and Anna O'Byrne. Even though this musical sucks, I would love to see those two play these roles in this production. Maybe I would've enjoyed it a bit better. I must confess, I like Ben's voice, but for me, his acting was kinda disappointing and seemed fake. I didn't feel any connection with his phantom, unlike Ramin. Gosh, phantom's a murderer and manipulative for heaven's sake, but Ramin managed to make me sympathize for him. He just makes me feel things, you know. I've heard his version of Til I Hear You Sing and my heart clenches every single time. He's just too good. I've seen bootlegs of him and Sierra on this show and they were, as always, phenomenal, especially in the ending scene. (Ramin screaming "No!" when Christine died was heartbreaking!) Anyway, I've talked long enough. Thank you once again and I look forward to your future musical commentaries. I would love to see you react on one of my favourite musicals "Come From Away". It has a live broadway recording version. Take care and stay safe!

@LaurenPaigeSQL

2 жыл бұрын

Oh that makes me so happy you liked it after such a long wait! 😃 Honestly, if that's true about Ramin and Sierra backing out of the DVD...I get it haha I haven't seen the bootlegs, but even the photos from their production seem better - this DVD version seems rushed, you know? VERY interesting you mention Come From Away - my parents just saw it in Ohio and gave it rave reviews. I haven't seen it so that may be a great one to try! Thanks for the recommendations Kamille! 😃

@CAJUNAFOL

Жыл бұрын

I saw an interview they both did and sierra basically said they didn’t do it because the needed a break.

@LingLing_Wannabe

Жыл бұрын

I toootally agree about Ramin and Sierra! Ramin makes me feel things no other phantom possibly could, it’s like he was literally born for the role of Phantom because he is IMPECCABLE 💕

@Rx6666

8 ай бұрын

God.... you Ramin/Sierra stans are so pathetic. They didn't "refuse" anything. It's the Australian production so they used the Australian cast. Jeeeeeeeezussssss......

The architecture idea would be amazing. We can keep till I hear you sing. We can keep the afair out of it. But the phantom just wants to hear her sing one more time.

Holy smokes, what, did this go up while I was watching the previous Phantom video??? I'm looking forward to this, I really enjoyed your commentary on POTO.

@LaurenPaigeSQL

2 жыл бұрын

You must have - I JUST uploaded 😝 Perfect timing, thanks so much! 💖

@SurinaSlackArt

2 жыл бұрын

@@LaurenPaigeSQL haha that was so great. I loved your reimagining of the story. Also I cracked tf up at that "hello" at 25:21 😂😂

Madame Giry did in fact meet Phantom as a younger woman herself, feeling pity for him and giving him shelter. It makes completely sense that she is supporting the phantom and suddenly hates Christine. She has spent so much time with The Phantom and heard him talk shit about her for ten years, so what am I to expect from her?

“My little brain worms wanna play a diddy” I’m gonna start saying that whenever i have a song stuck in my head, lol

I’m late to the comments, but I literally just found out this week that there was a POTO sequel. How did I not know?! I played Christine in college! Of course, I was in college pre-25th anniversary, if that shows my age. Anyway, I’ve got to agree that Love Never Dies is a dumpster fire that negates all prior character development for everyone. Erik can’t catch a doggone break in life. At least give the man a happy ending this time. Sheesh. Anyway, if you love POTO, go check out ‘Another Voice’ fanfic by Jadeite. It’s not the typical Christine x Erik ship, and I adore the mature take on it, putting him in modern times with his traumas. Daroga is a main character, and Carlotta is another main. Since you love Carlotta, please give it a Google. No, it’s not mine, and I don’t know the author at all. I just know how to appreciate a genuinely good sequel, and ‘Another Voice’ is really the sequel that should have been.

If I remember correctly he actually did both in the sequel book he ran an architectural firm, the Manhattan opera house and he never did the circus theme of Coney Island. Yes he designed ride elements for the island but it was more about the Manhattan opera house than coney island. In the book he was more in lines of dueling divas the phantom got Christine to perform and the other opera house had someone else. It also explained that Raul could never have children and that he got Christine pregnant. Meg was reduced to a nurse made to the young child because she damaged her leg beyond any chance of dancing again. Madame Giri was on her death bed before the story starts and there was a more evil character that didn’t care what he did to survive. It actually pushed the story along better than the stage adaptation to be honest.

Plot twist where this and the OG are flashback stories teen Gustav is being told by his two gay dads, Raoul and Erik, after asking how they met.

I love to see a fellow Ramin Karimloo fan!

@LingLing_Wannabe

Жыл бұрын

YESSSS Ramin is like one of my favorite people now - especially after watching his skittle muffins vlog 😂🫶

19:24 They unmasked him in the short run Ramin did of LND. I completely agree that it is stupid how we didn’t get to see his face.

A couple things 1 ben and anna were perfectly cast imo, they are both kind of what i would expect an older christine/phantom would be 2 the phantom doing vaudeville style stuff actually makes sense, think of it in modern terms, the phantom loves like extreme progressive metal which most people dont understand or like, but to make a living he makes radio rock/pop songs that are uninspired and unoriginal, and he finally gets the chance to do his passion again once christine comes to america

I'm progressively getting drunker as this night goes on and this review is glorious.

Without fail at the end of either watching Phantom the movie or musical version Im heartbroken for Erik. I cry ugly tears and that fan fiction starts playing around in my head of how Christine and Phantom could have made it work. I was so hopeful about the sequel to have satisfy the love story that should have been between them. Your synopsis on this dumpster fire of a sequel was totally correct. I hated every second of it. Maybe someday someone will try again and get it right.

Here's a funny thing, Fantasma means Ghost, aka Phantom. So yeah, he literally named it after his nickname

I completely and utterly LOVE Love Never Dies. In some ways I love it more than Phantom of the Opera. I watch it all the time and sing Christine’s lines from it all the time. There are only a couple of things I don’t like about it, though.

I adore POTO so much and this just slanders it’s name in every way possible. Please can someone explain to me how Christine’s son can possibly be Erick’s child.

Your Phantom-becomes-an-architect story is 10x better than this nonsense. But I will say: Love Never Dies is THE BEST movie/musical to gather your friends around and have a few too many... It becomes the funniest thing you will ever see. And for that, I appreciate its existence. :) Love your content, can't wait to check out more!

I love your channel babe.cus when it comes to phantom ohhh I know that feeling girl Lol . I admit I do Iike some of the catchy tunes u do . Can't help it

So the first time I watched my DVD, I really enjoyed the stunning costumes, sets, and lighting. Also loved 'til I Hear You Sing, The 10 mins of love opera section, and the title song. However, I was so angry and hurt at the end, I swore I'd never watch this dumpster fire again. Then few 100 views later, I fell in love with this production too. Also had friends in the cast of the US tour, so had to root for them. I do hope this returns on tour one day.

I saw the 2018 U.S Tour of LND since it came to Seattle with Gadar Thor-Cortes as the phantom.

God I remember seeing Love Never Dies and hating every second 😭

gorgeous and funny. and it made me sad when you had started to cry ;__; hope you get back to uploading soon

These videos are so fun, you should do some JCS next (if you like) it's fun to see the tone difference like you described for Rhoul. Also the new Proshot of Heathers London production is really good if you can find it

How am I new to your channel! You say exactly what I think

In London they were in rehearsal right until the last day.

Wait WHAT? Cats makes you want to gouge your eyes out?! The 1998 film is sooooo goooood omg. I grew up watching that on repeat and I still love it so much. What they’ve done in the modern version makes me want to hurl, and that’s just from seeing the trailer. I refuse to see that hot garbage.

Hi so I just watched and posted on your first Phantom video… and went directly here. And well I had my post with fun facts and I overthought it and deleted them lol

Idk why but I just love lnd for some reason IDK WHYYYY

I never get emotional but end of Phantom 25th Ramins Performance is amazing and in LND he fights for her and finally gets her and just like that she's taken away from him. But she still lives on through her son. The ending was almost changed to the Phantom dying. I think Christine's passing is more meaningful.

🤣🤣🤣 I think I need a crash course in France. Let's learn beautiful food and wine with my hubby for once. It will be such fun

I am a fan of the original cast of this show with Sierra Boggess and Ramin Karimloo as Christine and the Phantom. BUT I HATE THIS CAST SO MUCH!!! I'm looking at you Ben Lewis

I love it

I actually don't mind the Coney Island thing. The idea that the only job Erik could find in America was as a side show freak and then using his genius to take it over and make it his empire doesn't seem too far fetched. I like the dynamic because it taking place in another fancy opera house is just recycling the previous setting and it would be kind of boring IMHO. That being said, I really want to be able to wrap my head around Christine deciding that him killing people wasn't that bad and having a good reason for seeking him out, but I can't. I like to think that, yeah, he set her free to find her happiness, but then later knowing that she was choosing him, it became impossible to forget her and completely let her go. Maybe he still tried to, but then he learned that Raoul became an abusive asshole and decided he needed to "save" her, I guess. I dunno. But it still begs the question. WHY DID SHE SUDDENLY CHANGE HER MIND? Please someone make it make sense, cause I really want it to.

I have long held the theory that Love Never Dies is Erik's fever dream. In the book, he goes to the Persian, says he let Christine go, but that she promised to come back once he's dead to bury him, adding "And she will come soon!" In my head, he knows he's ill, and he doesn't eat, doesn't drink, doesn't sleep -- just develops a horrible fever and imagines the plot of Love Never Dies while ill. He knows he has lost Christine forever, but can't let her go, and he knows he will never have children, but imagines a son to carry on his talent. In the book, they note that three weeks after his visit to the Persian, the message "Erik is dead" appears in the newspaper. But did he really die?!? (I have a theory about that as well, but that strays into Phan Fic and I won't elaborate here.)

God as much as I despise LND I’d kill to see Ramin and Sierra play it.... and also see you react to them performing this show lol it’s incredible

Awesome video,I also hates Meg,and Yes,this Phantom visually cant deal with Ramin's Phantom

she only went back for a night and he left her before she woke up anyways so it doesn't really tarnish the purpose oh the OG phantom

The original versions of the musical didn't have the post-performance kiss between the Phantom and Christine in the dressing room, just at the end when she dies. The kiss was a blocking change for the Australian version. Also... Please tell me that you've seen the bootleg versions of the original West End cast with Ramin and Sierra? The Aussie version makes me crack up so badly! The original I can at least get through without dying every 5 minutes! But I do still enjoy it 🙂

But ya for us Raoul haters

Excellent sequel I liked it

The music slaps, but the plot makes me physically ILL😢

I never got this sequel, also why did Erik wear same mask when he was with Christine as she knows what he fully looks like now without the mask lol + the ending just why? + yeah the plot does contradict itself with what happened in the original! You say play but Phantom is a musical, and yeah where was his really deformed lip

I love the music so much. I love parts of the Australian version. But I hate the acting, especially the stare of Ben. And the London ending was so more satisfying. Coney Island was a real place and was a sensation at that time. And it made sense the Phantom would escape to America.

I cannot picture Phantom actually being with a woman. I just don’t think the poor bastard would know what to do🤣. Like, he knows the mechanics, but he’s so awkward and twitchy around her that I doubt he’d be able to go through with it.

“Till I hear you sing” is the best thing musically in the show and it’s the first thing you hear. Maybe other number would have been better if the best song wasn’t the first song. Also ALW hating his singers. Making people sing high does not a good song make. Till I hear you sing and Love Never Dies. High notes for the sake of having high notes. Till I hear you sing is better than the title song but still it’s at the top of the register just cause.

Love Never Dies is my second favorite musical. 😁🤭🤗🥰😍

I actually rlly like the cast ppl for coney island, they're all so goofy and stuff lol

If Meg Gerry was talking about prostitution i would feel bad for her, who knew the theater world was so cutthroat.....when will Broadway learn

I’ve only seen this once and I hated it because of all the reasons she says. However! I am a big fan of most of the music but only the original cast version. Because Ramin and Sierra just play it so perfect even when I can’t see them. I love how they both did LND before the 25th anniversary of Phantom. All the character choices they must have added because of it 🤯 I would love for a redo to be done for this sequel. I love the idea of a sequel still even if we were robbed with this one.

I know it's been a year but please watch the original London West End version! Or at least listen to the soundtrack. It has Ramin and Sierra again, and there is unmasking, and the acting is better. Love Never Dies has some potential just based on how it is performed and what songs are in it. Some aspects just aren't fully redeemable (like the cheating or where it is set) but the West End version just had such a better soundtrack and you do see the Phantom's face. Then there are the parallels in Ramin's acting choices from LND and Phantom 25th. The ending of the West End version also has so much more nuance between Erik and Christine, versus the overacting (in my opinion) for the ending scene with Christine and the Phantom before she dies.

bro even the poster of LND looks cheaper than the phantom of the operas

I just hated on the best solos. I did not give credit to “Dear old Friend.” Truly a brilliant quartet

Love never dies makes 0 sence to me as a logical progression to the original

I don't know why they didn't keep the wind up monkey idk idk

Why did they do a 20 year time jump and call it 10? Did they think we wouldn't notice that?

ALW used the music for Love Never Dies (the song) in two other shows, The Beautiful Game and I think Wistle Down the Wind . it feels like he just wanted a song that said the name of the show, like POTO….but in that show the song gives exposition

I kinda think the recorded version is kinda.. Meh. But the version with Ramin and Sierra... oh my. the songs vere really tailormade for them.

Phantom became more obsessed and selfish in this

29:52 Nancy wheeler x Jonathan byers from stranger things anyone?

When Ramin played I. This sequel he was unmarked half-way through