When I read Winters' autobiography it stood out to me that he didn't remember the name of the guy he landed next to. That was the moment when I realized there was some shenanigans in the show. I started researching other mistakes. At first I thought they were Hollywood embellishments or lazy research. Now I'm thinking a lot of the factual errors were memory errors from the veterans or that they were trying to protect the memory of their buddies.

thank you for telling this story and the corrections. Honestly I don’t understand why Spielberg and Hank’s are so opposed to southerners and Midwesterner’s. When I studied the make up of these units I was shocked at the large numbers from Texas and Oklahoma. Cole who received the Medal of Honor for instance and a large percentage of his men were from Texas. I interviewed several of them from the various companies under his command and I was shocked at how much more intense their stories were from anything mentioned by Ambrose etc and etal. It seems very unfair and very prejudicial the way these men were treated by our Hollywood friends.

@trevorcorkery

27 күн бұрын

Lipton, Randleman, Roe, and Powers were all southerners. Some people just complain to complain.

@JackOutLoud

27 күн бұрын

@@trevorcorkery and very badly portrayed. Almost portrayed as modern adaptations of a none southerner or Texans view of southerns or Texans. Ive interviewed many of them and while I doubt they would say it out loud, they all sort of smiled or grimeced and said “you know how Hollywood is. “ I’m not complaining to complain. It’s a very glaring omission. For those that know, as well as want to honor the true history, it feels almost as off putting as having them jump out of a Cessna on D-day. The tone and, feel and attitudes of the guys in Coles group would not jive with much of what you see in BOB. It would be a very different series if it was accurately based on that group just for starters.

@trevorcorkery

27 күн бұрын

@@JackOutLoud The only people in this country who would complain about a book and movie about a group of soldiers from all over the country who all met and shared experiences from Camp Toccoa through the battlefields of Europe would be Texans. I've never met anyone from any other place that has this over inflated opinion of their home state. That they are uniquely different and special. I've met a ton of Texans. Most of them I like very much, but the one thing they have in common is they can't shut up about Texas. It's ok. Its not that special and people there aren't some special breed. They're just like everyone else. It's an absurd complaint.

@altonbunnjr

27 күн бұрын

It’s no use complaining about the accuracy of BOB, too many people treat it like the holy grail and will rise up to its defense. It was a drama after all not a documentary.

@JackOutLoud

27 күн бұрын

@@trevorcorkery thank you “Trevor”. If they were still alive I’d let them know your thoughts on the matter.

After the series came out, the internet started finding these sorts of inaccuracies in Band of Brothers. The first one I remember reading about was Blythe. It's kind of hard to watch them now knowing how they butchered and really did dirty some of the soldiers.

@WorldWarTruth

28 күн бұрын

Yeah its a shame and its still a great series. It's also important that the truth is told.

@drewschumann1

23 күн бұрын

Blythe's story was the worst example

I like how you're doing a review of some of the characters who were in BoB. I watched and loved the series. I watch your videos every time I see one posted.

@WorldWarTruth

27 күн бұрын

Thanks!

Your excellent series of videos continue the respectful and informative tributes. Thank you!

@WorldWarTruth

28 күн бұрын

Thanks as always.

Excellent research.

@WorldWarTruth

28 күн бұрын

Thank you!

I saw another source saying John D. Halls was a part of the 81st mm mortar platoon in the 2nd battalion.

@WorldWarTruth

22 күн бұрын

Some of these guys moved around so much it was difficult to keep a track of their transfers. Just take a look at my Easy Company officers video. Its crazy stuff.

Wondering if there's a video documentary on the images of the soldiers that had their haircut as a mowhawk? Great channel, thanks for posting this.

@WorldWarTruth

17 күн бұрын

I have a video of the filthy thirteen (the mowhawk troopers) kzread.info/dash/bejne/mopqq7VtY7uvf9Y.html

As a new subscriber, I want to thank you for the great content on these heroic men and battles. Not only was Halls left off the end screen credit in episode 2 but if I'm not mistaken, Joe Liebgott was also mistakenly omitted. He was awarded the Bronze Star for manning a machine gun with Cleveland Petty at Brecourt Manor. Thanks again for the great content !

@WorldWarTruth

27 күн бұрын

Thanks. I havent made it to Liebgott on his military actions as yet so thats interesting.

I read off the Mark Bando website that the real first man Winters linked up with was the supply Sergeant from F Company. The source didn't state the Sergeant's name, which was weird. Then the first paragraph on the Warfare History Network says, "After Winters landed and was undoing his parachute harness he muttered. "Why the hell am I here?" And then he walked and found one man in a dyke who was shivering in fright and saw that he was carrying two rifles he was about to ask for one but instead he said "Follow me" and then they eventually found more misdrops like Lipton, Guarnere, and Freeman."

@WorldWarTruth

28 күн бұрын

"Why am I here" doesn't sound like something Winters would say. He only had his objective in mind.

@jerbs5346

28 күн бұрын

​@@WorldWarTruthIt’s what it said on the Warfare History Network.

@sid2112

28 күн бұрын

@@WorldWarTruth He was probably wondering why he was misdropped so far. "Why the hell am I here?" "I'm supposed to be 10 miles that way."

@WorldWarTruth

28 күн бұрын

@@sid2112 Yeah that sounds more like it. He was pretty upset about losing his leg bag and weapon plus being dropped in the wrong location.

@jerbs5346

22 күн бұрын

​@@WorldWarTruthI searched high and low and couldn't find the sergeant's name, I even checked the F Company roster and nothing.

I always thought that Hall's death as portrayed in BOB wasn't from a mine, but from a grenade explosion in the trench, seeing the facial and upper body wounds he's seen has having when Winters reaches him, that hit Hall as he was running forward with the TNT in the satchel tucked under his arm and crouched down in the trench. Nothing in the scene suggests he stepped on a mine.

@WorldWarTruth

25 күн бұрын

The scene is made up, here is no record anywhere of how he died. The most likely cause was either a grenade or gun shot.

These are awesome. Watching the series countless times the one trooper I can not account for is Smith the trooper who stabs sgt Talbert when Tab was trying to wake him for watch. Thanks

@WorldWarTruth

27 күн бұрын

Thanks. I haven't got to Smith yet. Ill see if I can find anything on him. There are a lot of obscure characters who found their way into the series.

Winters recalled in a speech and he said that the guy he landed next to was scared to death. Does it look like John hale would’ve been scared lol?

3:13. Men losing their equipment during and after their jump was a common thing. And just like Winters. Many lost their firearms. They would pick up anything that shots. Just like Winters did. So yes. Maybe there were some Privates that carried Thompsons.

Excellent work. Ambrose appears to have been very sloppy historian and it shows in Band of Brothers. There was little fact-checking in the book and these errors need to be corrected.

@localbod

19 күн бұрын

I believe that Albert Blythe's relatives even contacted HBO and asked for an amendment (basic graphic text explaining that he didn't die) at the end of the episode his character was in, but they got no response. Hollyweird / Spielberg / Hanks, etc...couldn't give a f@©k about the truth or honouring those individuals. It's just about money. From what I can tell Ambrose was the same.

@PaleoCon2008

19 күн бұрын

@@localbod Ambrose wrote the book. He is responsible for his errors. The others you mentioned are not historians and almost certainly accepted his work as authoritative. If you read many of the other books written by veterans you get a better sense of the other sides to these stories.

In real life was it just Lt Meehan and Sgt Evans on that plane? I thought it was all of Easys headquarters section?

@WorldWarTruth

14 күн бұрын

It was members of company HQ and 5 of the flight crew. 22 in total. My statement in the video might have been a little misleading.

Bill Guarnere was the first person to call John Halls "cowboy" in episode 2 Day of Days: "None of your f***ing business, cowboy!" So the nickname was assigned by Guarnere more as a pejorative. Also, John Halls was a radio operator as he told Dick Winters that he had lost that infamous 80-lb. extra bag and his radio from the prop blast as he exited their C-47 transport. These details are as they were portrayed in the series and may not be factually accurate. Regardless, the series is excellent.

@WorldWarTruth

28 күн бұрын

Unfortunately a lot of the series was not based on facts.

@skribeworks

28 күн бұрын

@@WorldWarTruth It was never supposed to be based entirely on facts. It was a dramatic recreation, not a documentary. Hanks told Winters they'd be lucky if they got 11% (IIRC) correct. Plus, this was a massive project, created at a time when the internet was new. You couldn't just look stuff up. You had to scour through books, reports, documents (some of which had been destroyed). Or interview people about events from 60 years before. Some who conflicted others memories. At the end you had a piecemeal of information from which you need to construct 600 minutes of dramatic television. It's a wonder it was as good as it was.

@WorldWarTruth

28 күн бұрын

@@skribeworks If you are going to use real names and portray real men you need to get as much right as possible. They only needed to research army records which have always been available to correct a lot of the mistakes. I think they put too much effort into getting uniforms and weapons etc right instead of the mens names and personal stories. Its still a great series.

@skribeworks

28 күн бұрын

@@WorldWarTruth Searching records in the late 90s wasn't as easy as it is now. It wasn't all computerised, and it certainly wasn't online. Plus, they had lots of balls in the air (and a strict time limit) just trying to get that 11% correct. Things were always going to be missed. I don't think you fully grasp the massiveness of their achievement.

@WorldWarTruth

28 күн бұрын

@@skribeworksI hear what you are saying.

Not sure if you are aware of Stephen Ambrose himself. He is not the 'squeaky clean' historian and scholar many people make him out to be. The 'Band of Brothers' miniseries aired Sept 9, 2001. The following year in 2002 he was accused of 'plagiarism'. Forbes did an investigation of his writings and found 6 instances of plagiarism of other authors. He didn't live long as he was diagnosed with lung cancer in April 2002 and passed on October 13, 2002. There is one individual I would like to see a more accurate idea of. PFC Cobb. He was one of the antagonists in Easy company in episode 9 'Hagenau', Cobb is featured a lot. At the end of the episode it shows him leaving Hagenau in a jeep with several MPs. Ambrose's books cites that he was later court martialed. I wonder if that is incorrect as well.

@WorldWarTruth

5 күн бұрын

I'm just working on a Cobb video. I also made a video on Ambrose if you want to check it out. kzread.info/dash/bejne/rJ59sMuKZ5vAYJM.html