Ive seen people rolling bags like that in and out of supermarkets for 20 years. Peter was spot on 😂

@scienceevolves4417

6 ай бұрын

Nahhhh we never had that! Peter is suffering from a Mandela's effect.😢

@tedcrilly46

6 ай бұрын

this one has wheels.

@flyingscotsman7457

6 ай бұрын

No he isnt. I just googled, loads of trolleys with wheels 😂. ​@@scienceevolves4417

@AdamBechtol

6 ай бұрын

I think he was too, my grandma had a floral print one here in the USA,but it didn't have castor wheels made from rollerblade wheels. It was very much a pull behind.@@scienceevolves4417

@pnklady3788

6 ай бұрын

so have I. My gran had a 4 wheeled shopping trolley that was top loading... which is effectively the same thing.

this makes me wonder if she did absolutely any market research or even bothered to open her eyes in public

@TheManInBlueFlames

6 ай бұрын

She probably did but not enough.

@WoodsSooperDooperShop

2 ай бұрын

She's absolutely been in denial for a while at this point

Peter is right. Been around for 50 years plus already.

@mcfcguvnors

6 ай бұрын

easy ive seen the 4 wheelers & that whole thing should not cost best part of 250 , more like 45

@scienceevolves4417

6 ай бұрын

20-30 quid at the likes of b and q, b and m, home bargains...

@39zack

6 ай бұрын

I also seen something similar that was from 60/70s, they was more flowery :D

@marchumphreys3865

6 ай бұрын

Her ignorance to him exposing that fact was shocking

@suedenim

5 ай бұрын

I think the argument (that went unmade) is that having rollerblade wheels offers a tangible benefit over the wheels normally used for this sort of thing. Seems unlikely that there's enough of a difference to be worth the price, though.

7:40 I certainly wasn’t expecting Touker to hit on a woman this episode….

@BigTeamWesley

2 ай бұрын

Underrated comment 😂

@RandomAverageJoe

Ай бұрын

😂

@dazediss6629

Ай бұрын

He touker from behind.

There's no way she's serious about this, right? Like... I've DEFINITELY seen suitcases that have full 360 degree swivel for under £100... Why is she trying to claim this is a new thing?

@ajhxz3446

6 ай бұрын

ITS NOT A SUIT CASE! It's more one of those old lady shopping bags with wheels.. just a fancy, easier to pull and push version.

@nessthecat

6 ай бұрын

Sure, but it's still something that's been done before@@ajhxz3446

@scienceevolves4417

6 ай бұрын

​​@@ajhxz3446 One could use a suitcase for identical purposes... 😉😁

@barteatmyshorts8252

6 ай бұрын

True 🎉

@appleratpipe

6 ай бұрын

Woman approach to business

I've never in my life a bag on wheels. This is revolutionary. Like how has no one ever done this before. So simple but amazing.

@rafeikasratali213

6 ай бұрын

Oh my gosh I'm so in awe .that's a really good product 😂😮

@rs_99_

6 ай бұрын

I see wot u did there...

@Mus-Doc

3 ай бұрын

Where are you living?

@brian177

3 ай бұрын

Wheels? What is wheels? This idea is going to be HUGE.

@JustMe99999

2 ай бұрын

@@Mus-Doc Whoosh!

My grandma literally has one that is even better. She can drag it up the stairs without having to lift it. This is a nice bag sure, but the pitch was a joke.

@marthastewwart

3 ай бұрын

I'd actually argue that nothing about the bag is good

Oh Lord: 1.She doesn’t listen too well 2. the size? It’s tiny 3. the price 🤦‍♂️,holy smokes

She fumbled the bag.

She really thought she had this in the bag 😂

8:41 Sara: "It smells like my wetsuit" Peter "I like the smell!"

@stevesalt9005

6 ай бұрын

😂

@stanthemafia

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

40kgs of shopping! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

Remortgaged the house for that. Christ.

@tedcrilly46

6 ай бұрын

How do they get this far?

@seanjosephhayes

6 ай бұрын

@@tedcrilly46 I couldn’t tell ya Ted!

@whoever_81

5 ай бұрын

Yup. A very wise decision lol

I thought they were harsh, it's clearly got modern rollerwheels. This lady did an inconsistent job of defending the product. She should have said the bag separates from the frame for cleaning. She should have talked about theamount of money people spend on bags can be very high. Stephen said it was cool, she should have said she's looking for influencers for legal community etc etc... too much time building rapport with dragons, not enough defence.

£234 for a bag with wheels on it? You could get the exact same bag for less than 50 quid. Also an average revenue of like £10k with an average profit of -£12k but valued at half a million? Girl wanted to go in at 50x revenue and -42× profit for a bag that can be replicated by virtually any retailer in existence.

@sigma_z

6 ай бұрын

Shut up, you can't get that for 50 squids. You can get it for £1 at the pound store. 🤣😅

@pinball2k6

5 ай бұрын

No sorry, but she said they don't exist. She said so. You've never seen them before. They are absolutely from the year 3000 built with undiscovered alien technology. Bags on wheels have never been created by anyone.

Peter was great in this pitch, I love it!! He's like a dog with a bone!

@MF_JONES

5 ай бұрын

How do u know he had a boner

One Google search would have told her that there are tons of bags out there on 4 wheels spinning 360 degrees. I'm with Peter on this one.

BUY the bag Stephen!!

Obviously she hasn’t visited a city very often. Neat ‘suitcase’/shopping cart, though awfully pricey.

@tedcrilly46

6 ай бұрын

Ok hear me out. Bread, right. But ... already sliced.

@TheManInBlueFlames

6 ай бұрын

Not in England.

@akanate4587

5 ай бұрын

@@tedcrilly46 Jenny: “Thats a great idea” Jenny: “Im out”

Insane pricing. My Samsonite suitcase was cheaper that that. Also I’ve seen grocery suitcase like that way more cheaper. Reinventing grandmas trolley but make it pricier 😅

My nan had one of these donkeys ago, she got i for a tenner from the market. Peter is right on this one.

Peter is a menace 😂😂😂

@sigma_z

6 ай бұрын

Peter is 100% right though this time. He remembers his nans shopping cart with 4 wheels. 💪🏼

@TheEsotericProgrammer

6 ай бұрын

You could see the rage build when she denied his memory

I had a trolley when doing 355 local papers a week on a Thursday and in 1987 it cost me £6. One of the reasons I quit that schoolboy job was I didn't want to spend another weeks wages on another one when it wore out. Even at todays prices. £100 is a lot, too much for most for this kind of thing. And doing a paper round. I would never afford one of these.

I question whether or not this woman has ever left the house. I used one of these for my Sat/Sun paper rounds 25 years ago :/ It's literally a shopping trolley but they replaced castor wheels with rollerblade wheels. It's exactly the same thing except it might have a rollerblade brand attached haha. WHY?

Telling Peter he';s lying when every single one of us has seen the same invention for decades is BOLD

Did anyone else clock that she said she often comes home with 40 kilos of shopping?! What is she buying?

@whoever_81

5 ай бұрын

Rocks! 😄

@AveragePicker

3 ай бұрын

Wheels and bearings

@phillipmcfarlane5249

2 ай бұрын

Dumbbells

Deborah hijacked a good segue there. How dare Touker!

How often does Deborah have ago at Tukar for butting in....now she does it but he isn't ignorant and rude and stayed quiet

@00Kuja00

6 ай бұрын

Agree. She is so full of herself it's painful to watch.

@AdamBechtol

6 ай бұрын

She also said she had a question, and flat out did not have a question, just talked then went out.

That’d be a nice little suitcase to use when it’s time to roll out

@anubusx

6 ай бұрын

Jenny will be riding one out the den.

@americanmobilepower4079

6 ай бұрын

Lol, I see what you did there @@anubusx

@its9333

6 ай бұрын

Roll out like the transformers

Peter is right iv seen what he said that she said didn't exist

Imagine the Dragon's Den channel used funny titles like the Hell's Kitchen / Kitchen Nightmares ones do. Would be hilarious considering how serious the show is.

@anubusx

6 ай бұрын

What song would they choose to play?

@AdamBechtol

6 ай бұрын

Latest season doesn't seem serious.

@Karl-gx7rz

6 ай бұрын

You're not wrong, the person that runs the Kitchen Nightmare's channel has got it locked down.

@Karl-gx7rz

6 ай бұрын

Latest season has Gary Neville in it, I don't see the latest seasons getting posted@@AdamBechtol

@elvickRULES

2 ай бұрын

“Touker is impressed by entrepreneur’s impressive frame!”

Fairplay to her, she obviously put loads of time and energy into it. Well done 👏

£234 pounds, oh my god. For fifty quid could be a good product but no way at this ridiculous price

I just did some traveling and have a bag like that but far better. You can strap a backpack on top of the suitcase to the handles. It has way more pockets. I opens from all angles and the wheels are not roller blade wheels they are far sturdier and don’t get caught on anything. It was 80$. Idk who would buy this.

Woman mortgaged her house on a roller bag...

I bought a trolley a week ago, where is the difference?

There is no benefit in a top loading case. It actually takes more effort to unpack.

@whoever_81

5 ай бұрын

...but less effort to pack! Grocery shopping/Supermarket. Top loading certainly a benefit there.

@bjornlangoren3002

3 ай бұрын

​​@@whoever_81That's s very good point. Someone could make a mint on inventing carts that customers could bring into the store, and roll out again to load into carriaged. All top loaded. Stores would go bananas over that because it would let the customers buy and carry vast amounts of product. Problem might be theft. So someone should invent wheels that lock up if the cart leaves the store parking perimeter. Someone also should invent self-driving carriages to vastly cut down cost of feeding and caring for horse trains.

You can take it off to clean it, swap it for others but ive seen these bags for over 30 years lol

I’ve had one of these at home for years nothing new 🤣🤣

Roller blades or skates bearings are higher quality smoother ride and rubber wheels, same would be for suit case to make it run Better

I like that color of purple 👍(the one on the table) and quite like the look, but the price for sure is insane

7:40 Wow, that might be the nicest I've ever seen Peter in the den.

I love when she scolded Peter for taking it off the frame XD

I don’t understand what’s to like about this bag on wheels. She says it’s also for travelling, but how is that different from any cabin luggage on 4 wheels? There are rucksacks that go on wheels. A quick “4-wheel shopping bag” shows thousands of results, so I really don’t understand why this product would ever be successful… 🤷

@whoever_81

5 ай бұрын

Especially at that price!

After Steven said that I’m thinking wow must be nice to be on there and get all the freebies. Some people have a tough life

@lux0rd01

2 ай бұрын

Right? What sheer audacity. "I know you put your house on the line for these but can I have one free?"

Deborah gets all bent out of shape interrupting Touker, lying saying she has a question, proceeds to ask no such question and goes out. Not her best episode.

@bartbounce7205

6 ай бұрын

I kinda liked Touker didn t answer the toxic respawns and just let it go.😂

@florencebrisco1231

Ай бұрын

exactly. Deborah is a bit toxic for no reason. I think she looks down on touker due to his nationality. But peter jones can literally get up and slap deborah across her face and she would smile and agree with him.

It 100% existed for a very very long time 😅

She went on the shopping channel selling at a big loss, what if they'd had a run on them and sold 1000's

My wheels on my car turn 360 without me asking but its each to there own 😮

Love Debras surprise 😂

I suppose you might take the bag off to bring it in the house and unpack groceries.

These wheels wouldnt work at all on the pavement, gravel or in snow. Thats why my granny had 2 pairs of big wheels and 2 smaller and yes...she dragged it behind coz its the easiest way to do if its full of milk.

It's a shame, seems like a good bag and honestly a good start to the pitch. It just really needed some good sales figures and a bit more thought into wording things. Arguing about 'Why have you detatched it, you don't need to' was funny buuuut she should of instead said 'You can detatch it for cleaning, storage or to pop it up on the table without it rolling away or getting the messy wheels up in full view after a days travel'

If she had made this a frame that would work for cat and dog carries, luggage and everything pretty much then it might be something sellable because other people are only in the suitcase space or backpack.

This poor lady is going to lose her house by inventing a product that already exists but making it more expensive than those other shopping carts.

8:22 she’s just saying that for television

The only thing unique about her product is using inline skate wheels. They're a slight upgrade to the normal caster wheels other bags use.

if my nan had wheels she would've been a bike

hope those wheels are better than the ones most bags have.

When they say, Dragons were free to wear what they wanted. Bro took it too far with his pants😂😂😂😂

@nicolepretorius1178

5 ай бұрын

What do you mean? That don't seem very unusual

£239 nobody in they're right mind would pay that for a suitcase trolly you could by a luxury 3 piece set of luggage for that price 😂

Sorry but there are plenty of other products like this - but even stronger and sturdier frames, wheels and fabric. The key is in the wheels. The wheels need to be much bigger and thicker. I know from experiencing buying multiple products like these that simply break. I now have one which is perfect, stronger and bigger than what we see in this episode.

I've seen these for years. At least over a decade now. Sure the nice ones that can do a 360° swivel are high end and expensive, so MOST people get the ones you tilt back and drag behind you, but these DEFINITELY already exist

She’s dead serious about her product she remortgaged her property 😮 wish her the best of luck sticky situation

This type of product has existed for ages 😳

Funniest episode ever, good bag though

£99 is still far too high

We sell in China and they walk on wheels so we have to renew their feet sometimes when they DON;T wear their dancing shoes

What it costs her to make it is about how much it should retail at. 200+ for a bag on wheels is ridiculous. Having said that if the dragons saw a good opportunity im sure they’d be able to keep the costs down to make the product but they just didn’t believe in it.

I mean if she gets the cost down and sells it for $100 on tv then it could work at 234$ it’s way to much

Should have demonstrated with a bigger loaded bag.

This is like a copy and paste product

I’ve seen similar suitcases like this year out there with the rotating wheels & common issues with the wheels needing to be replaced or coming off easily, the consumer needs a reliable suitcase and there’s too many poor ones out there. I think the look of the product gives a luxurious vibe to it, but the only great potential I see in that bag is that frame if it was able to be moulded to create other potential designs.

hmm if it was foldable, I'd pay 100 bucks for it. after having spent close to 300 in bags that essentially are disposable because of how garbage their wheels are...

its a modern version of the old school shopping bad on wheels you would see OAP's with , she needs to get her manufacturing cost down .

Peter's nan was a genius. My nan also had a pushy wheely bag.

Haven't seen dragon's den for like, a year. Daym, Sarah's looking more beautiful with her hair!!!

Yes I know she should've just researched better etc.. But I still feel bad for her 😅 she obviously thought she had an idea and prob never saw this before and was all excited about coming up with this 😅

Cost of goods in Europe is too expensive to make sense. How to compete with China or any country in asia? Its the Kryptonite of Europe economy 🏳

I see these every day. They cost 50£. They last for 30+ years.

Some people will "invent" a product without bothering to do research to see if it already exists.

She says there’s a market when she’s losing money lol.

Well she wasn't good at the start was she? Met and worked with old and middle aged women like Paola before who insist they are right about everything. She's probably done a LOT of research but hasn't seen the oversight Peter found but she didnt take it too humbly! At least she warmed to the Dragons by the end!

I've had one of those suitcases, I got it in 2009. How can she claim she invented this...

"I sniff everything" okay Deborah....

I’ve got 2 in my loft……… not new

Well if nothing else that was entertaining

She was so rude

I have something like this that cost me $30....

2:18 Pizza Jones

My mum and nan had those Peter. Tartan patterned. Why would anyone pay over $50 for one of these. No man would want to look like a grandma walking around with this bag.

She's made no money in 3 years, no one was going to make her an offer

Wow she's so confrontational. Surprised they didn't just tell her off

I remember when a guy called Deborah, Debs. He got a right ear full. 🤷🏻‍♂️

This late Dragon's Den is light work to me and my food. When the early stuff comes on, I get aggressive with my suppers and find myself eating them rapidly with extreme feelings.

A lady who refuses to leave her garden but claims to know everything about the rainforest..

I find the colors really depressing. She should sell these in some fun peppy hues so they also appeal to younger people and kids.

If the first guy just face planted in front of Peter...

Pray, permit me to confess my inclination towards siding with Peter in relation to this matter. Upon beholding the product, I am reminded of the trolley bags used by elderly women in the Baltic countries. This product here, it appears to be naught but a refurbishing or a mere alteration, transformed into an elegant looking product. Whosoever finds appeal in this, I venture to posit, is perchance of a more advanced age.

There's stuff like this already. She didn't do a "competitive audit" it seems.