This is one of the best and most expressive and emotive guitarists in history. Certainly the best British blues player with all due respect to the great Slowhand, another dear favorite of mine.

I think what happened to Peter Green is a lot like what happened to Syd Barrett - previously undiagnosed mental issues exacerbated by heavy drug use.

@67marlins

3 ай бұрын

That's about the most direct & honest assessment I've heard. At this point we can't say schizophrenia would have emerged on its own.....I believe the drugs re-wired and disturbed the poor kid's brain. Isn't it terrifying to think a drug, if it just slightly crosses a threshold, can cause permanent brain changes?

@taylordw

3 ай бұрын

@donyoung7874 lump LSD of “heavy drugs.”For example:heroin and opiates had physical effects on the user, which many musicians of the era became addicted to heroin.heroin could ruin a career in ways unrelated to LSD, having physical effects which could render the musician apathetic. LSD was more a profound psychological experience, completely unique. The contrast between “good” and “bad” trips on LSD was great.Bad trips could simulate psychosis and severe paranoia

@taylordw

3 ай бұрын

@donyoung7874, what happened to both Green and Barrett, was the result of heavy use of LSD in particular, not “drugs” in general. Opioids and alcohol are both highly physically addictive.LSD is completely a “head trip,”& not addictive at all, which in certain cases could bring the user to states of psychosis and paranoia. “Acid casualties”of that era were people who went up, but never came down. In college in the 70’s, I knew one or two and came close to being one myself. This generally came about after multiple acid trips, not simply a single use, where the user gradually became more and more untethered from reality. Barrett and Green were classic celebrity examples of acid abuse. Eric Clapton OTOH, was an example of a heroin addict who became an alcoholic. He is a rare example of someone who was able to break his addiction to both of these dangerous drugs.Green and Barrett probably stopped dropping acid at a point, but sadly after permanent damage to their psyches had already occurred.

@donyoung7874

3 ай бұрын

@@taylordw Didn't mean to compare LSD to heroin, cocaine, or morphine. I know LSD isn't a narcotic. But it's certainly heavier than marijuana. Even regular amphetamine abuse took a toll on musicians, ask Johnny Cash. What I meant was, I question if the use of LSD is what 'caused' the mental problems of Peter Green or Syd Barrett. Green was later diagnosed with schizophrenia, which from what I understand, tends to manifest in the person's 20's. I don't believe I've ever heard of LSD use causing schizophrenia in a person. Syd Barrett is said to have had Asperger's, so I think both men probably triggered their mental breaks when they abused mind altering chemicals, if that's the correct term. And from what I've read, they took many trips. I've read more about Syd, he tripped almost daily for awhile but a number of them were people spiking him unbeknownst to him. That couldn't have helped matters. John Lennon tripped a lot too but he didn't meet the same fate as Peter or Syd or Brian Wilson. So what would cause some people to have severe mental breaks, but not others, if they all took LSD prodigiously for a period of time? My guess is existing mental issues that were probably undiagnosed and the abuse of psychedelics pushed them over the edge.

@roywatson8133

3 ай бұрын

at least green came back from time to time after 1970 barret never came back

I saw him perform, either 2003 or 2009 (I forget exactly when). It was a mix of joy at seeing one of my heroes play, but also sadness. He still had some of the magic, but I felt I could see the pain in his eyes, from his struggles with mental illness. He was truly one of the greats. One can only imagine the heights he could have reached, if it wasn't for his misfortune.

Then Play On has always been one of my favorite albums. BB King thought Peter was the best guitarist at the time. Acid is a funny thing. I've known two people that accidentally ingested more than a thousand doses worth of it, and after a few days somehow managed to come back to "normal" with no apparent side effects, but I've known several more people that at normal doses it seems to have made mental health issues significantly worse. No point in playing that kind of roulette. I got a young neighbor kid that I turned on to Peter Green. Every once in a while I'll get a message how much he appreciates that classic old Fleetwood Mac. Makes my day. As for comparisons to Clapton, Peter Green was by far the more original and creative of the two and had a far deeper understanding of the blues. I consider Eric to be the world's most successful cover guitarist (even though he has written a few of his hits, there are so many he hasn't)

On a tour in Europe in 1985 ,I was playing lead guitar for him ,he was asked at the border in Switzerland who he was with,his answer “ French Connection!” .That delayed our journey by about half a day !-Kari Bannerman

I learned about Peter Green in the late 70's while tuned in to a FM radio weekly popular rock documentary called Discumentary hosted by Dave MCormack featuring Fleetwood Mac This was during the height of Rumours mania 1977 to 78. I did like Green's guitar playing and singing, It was mind blowing and cool, A far cry from the iconic Buckingham -Nicks sound "The Mac" was becoming known for. What a sad story of his life. Rest In Peace.

In my opinion, early Fleetwood Mac is the only good Fleetwood Mac. Peter and Danny are my favorite guitar players.

@MelissaThompson432

3 ай бұрын

People saying this is exactly why I never listened to Peter Green until about 2 months before he died. Mick and John would probably have kept working if they hadn't found Buckingham Nicks. But they wouldn't have been superstars. I never heard of the band until "Over My Head" in 1975. They had 6 chart-topping albums in a row in the UK, home of greenophilia. I couldn't believe such a flagrantly minority opinion could possibly hold any weight. He's not bad.

@Maldoror200

2 ай бұрын

@swaffy101..Righteous..I agree, absolutely,!!..🎸✌️😉✨️

@Maldoror200

2 ай бұрын

@MelissaThompson432 💀..Peter Green..was, "Not Bad"..,??! ..Darlin.., that truly is a 💣 "BOMBSHELL ov an UNDERSTATEMENT.., (Sighh.Ahh well...A kitten opens its eyes 👀 only after 3 weeks..)

@swaffy101

2 ай бұрын

@@MelissaThompson432 😂😂😂

Peter has said in interviews that it was the treatments he recieved in sanitarium that hurt him the most. He said he wasn’t sure why he was committed, but that the electroshock therapy and sedatives are what damaged him the most. Had he not had his brain fried hy these Doctors he might have recovered more completely. Peter started to regain his sanity when a friend talked him into quitting the pills he was prescribed. When he stopped, his brain started coming back on line. Doctors destroyed Peter’s brain as much or MORE than the acid. The End of the Game was recorded after the Munich incident and Peters brain is fine. His playing is out of this world on that album. All tuis info comes from his biography and interviews you can find on youtube.

@stj971

26 күн бұрын

I can totally believe that Drs did more damage.

@ryanodonnell4184

25 күн бұрын

@@stj971peters reccolection about things is very different than mick fleetwoods and others. Unfortunately the Munich incident turned into some distorted romantic rock legend that i dont think reflects reality. You can hear Peter on End of the Game (post munich) an he’s playing like jimmy hendrix. His mind was still clearly there. Peter said “i wasnt really sure why i was sent to sanitarium.” Things clearly got worse after he was committed. People around him thought he was “crazy” for wanting to give a large portion of profits to the poor. I think thst thats actually SANE and the rest of society is CRAZY for not giving to the poor. Peter was a Christian at this point and the new testement is very clear: if you live in service of God the world will hate you for it. I could go on and on about this stuff that happened to Peter but its way more complex than “bad acid”

It's tragic to hear of yet another "Acid Casualty" of the 60's. Another super talented musician like Syd Barrett who fell in with the wrong crowd and never made it back from their experimentation's. Still I have a respect for these "Mavericks" who risk it all to see how far they can go and explore. Without them we would not know our limits. SHINE ON

@jonsmith3664

3 ай бұрын

Limits? No one sets the limits. lol. Humans will do what humans do, regardless of their intellect or lack of it.we forget as soon as we learn. It’s the quintessential natural selection at play.

Man, I didn't know that. What a shame. He was a really great musician.

Every time I listen to “Oh well” I always hear AC/DC “Beating around the bush” Perhaps Bon or Angus or Mal were inspired by Peters riff🤔

@straingedays

3 ай бұрын

😲Damn, that riff & how lyrics are structured at the start of pt.1 is crazy similar !! Thanks, I'd not heard "Oh Well" but heard that AC/DC track too many time to count. The calming end of "Oh Well pt.1 & 2" on that first listen for some reason reminded me of when Fraternity ft. Bon Scott did "Seasons of Change"

I can totally understand how he lost his mind,I took LSD just once in the 1980s and it was like living in a 26 hour long nightmare and I have never got over it and had psychiatric problems ever since,a very very dangerous drug,I would advise never to risk taking it and having a "bad trip",it is indescribably mentally disturbing.

@fuckcensorship69

3 ай бұрын

Do DMT. Bring you back full circle

@fci1

3 ай бұрын

I had some very positive trips on LSD

@Seeklip196T

3 ай бұрын

I think someone's predisposition before ingesting it has everything to do with the outcome. I did LSD countless times. The only thing I can recall is being able to drink beer without getting drunk and waking up with a sore face from laughing so much. I would never tell anyone to do it now especially when you really don't know what you're getting. I'm a born again Christian and I believe hallucinogenics open demonic doors. The war this world is in is spiritual. Know Jesus, know peace. No Jesus, no peace.

@Maldoror200

2 ай бұрын

@mjh5437..What happened to you, will not be what happens with someone else..Clearly, If a person is already Emotionally/Psychologicaljy precarious ie; "Unstable", then, "experimenting" with a Powerful Hallucinogenic catalyst is akin to "experimenting" with, (excuse the expression), "Russian Roulette"..!!☠️.., (You can rest assured.., I speak from EXPERIENCE..!!)

@haroldackermann7592

2 ай бұрын

Some people did have big problems with LSD. Not a single Hippie friend did though. Just lucky I guess ...

One of my favorite guitarists so smooth and clean

A contributing factor in Peter Green's breakdown came in early 1970 when Fleetwood Mac shared the bill with the Grateful Dead for a series of shows. Peter started taking a lot of that hardcore Owsley acid. That stuff was much more powerful than what he was used to, and I think it really broke him down.

@Robert-tj3qq

3 ай бұрын

Owsley acid ?

@fazole

3 ай бұрын

​@@Robert-tj3qq He went around distributing it at many places, like Monterrey Pop. Festival. No one asks how one guy could formulate so much. Timothy Leary, working for CIA, did the same on east coast.

@dirtylemon3379

3 ай бұрын

@@Robert-tj3qq Augustus Owsley was the famed LSD chemist who produced the most prized product back in the day.

@shen7256

3 ай бұрын

STP. Many never came back, few enjoyed the experience. The early doses were far too strong. Pete Townsend and Keith Moon experienced what was probably STP, given to them by Jerry Garcia and taken on a flight back from the Monterey festival,Pete said he never took a drug again after that experience.

@shen7256

3 ай бұрын

In fact if my memory serves me well, Garcia introduced Pete and Keith to Owsley after the festival. Owsley was pushing STP around this time.

legendary guy. he knew eric clapton & fleetwood mac. wouldn't be a fleetwood mac without peter green. I like original oh well song.

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

This was very good - fair and compassionate. Thanks for posting.

@RiverDocs

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

Another gem RD! Thanks brother!

@RiverDocs

3 ай бұрын

Thanks Ferd.

Had a friend in h.s. who similarly "tripped out". Best bass & sax man, saddest story ever....

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

Have seen this happen too!

End Of The Game is an amazing album too.

Thanks for your video. What probably was the most damaging to a, (by then) alreadly disillusioned/partly burned-out Peter Green in 1970, while doubtless the drugs/intensity associated of being an outstanding guitarist/musician/singer/songwriter took it's toll, it was the ECT so called 'therapy' administered upon him by the UK medical profession during the 70's. Thereafter, it was a case of him having 'keep taking the mind-numbing tablets' for years prior to being 'rescued' of a sort in the early 90's by a few who were close to him. While I know that he was diagnosed as suffering a form of schizophrenia, the medical 'treatment' had a lot to answer for. ...

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

A great summary of a very talented but troubled individual. RIP Peter Green - you gave us some great music in those early years with Fleetwood Mac.

@HappyHermitt

Ай бұрын

His disdain for fame and fortune is of the highest honor. He was broken, but is being rewarded 100 fold. He earned it.

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

Agree!

thanks for another great documentary

@RiverDocs

3 ай бұрын

You're welcome. Appreciate you watching.

Love the first Fleetwood Mac lp! It’s the only one I own by them lol. Thanks Doc! I always enjoy your show 😎👍

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

You're welcome my friend. Thanks for watching! Sorry, I'm slow getting around to responding!

Contrary to many opinions; lsd and psilocybin helped me maintain my mental health thru my life and kept me from ever getting hooked on hard drugs. Everyone is different; I guess and it's not everybody's cup of...you know ... Love primal Fleetwood Mac... Grate Muscician Green was Thank You for sharing

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

Thanks! I learned a great deal from your video.

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

You're very welcome. Thanks for watching! Hope you subscribe!

What a fantastic video have a wonderful day ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

@RiverDocs

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! You too!

I happened upon the Channel and just watched the Peter Green video. Very Cool !!! Looking forward to more. I'm a huge Gary Richrath fan so looking fwd to diving in to the rest.😎🎸

@RiverDocs

2 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thank you! Appreciate your support!

back in the day the acid from the states was so strong it caught a lot of people out i met a guy ex military who was in okinowa put us curious17 year olds into space with orange sunshine from california

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

Orange sunshine and purple micro dot :-)

2 Additional must have Peter Green albums for you. 1979s In The Skies which also features Snowy White on guitar who sounds so much like Peter it's hard to tell the two apart. A must have album. And 1980s Little Dreamer. This one's all Peter on lead guitar. The guitar approach on these 2 albums is less is more. The solos don't have tons of notes but they have all the RIGHT notes if you know what I mean. I love these 2 albums and I think you will too.

@Wouter_Vuijk

2 күн бұрын

You forgot to mention the other 3 albums he recorded in the early '80s: Whatcha Gonna Do, White Sky and Kolors.

Great piece Doc ! I loved it.

@RiverDocs

3 ай бұрын

Thanks !!

I absolutely love The End of the Game. Great album. Your reviews are becoming more like Inside Edition as you focus on the problems musicians have had more than their music. Like a tabloid. I hope you get back on track. Thanks.

Peter Green played guitar on the song "Sky Blue" on Peter Gabriel's "Up" album in 2002.

@mootbooxle

3 ай бұрын

wow, love that song! I didn’t know Peter Green played on it!

@ralphowen3367

3 ай бұрын

O Well was not a long number, but very spiritual to the point where P.G. in expressing an exchange he had with God--Peter was Jewish--is told: "But don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to". That song ranks up there in my book with the most meaningful of all time.

I’ve enjoyed taking LSD, found it provides insight though it needs to be treated with respect. I always suspected my wife showed signs of mental illness. After she tried LSD she began acting strange. I later realized she had borderline personality disorder. I will always wonder how much the drugs triggered her illness.

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

My guess would be it does trigger it.

Thanks for giving this musician a voice in 2024.

@RiverDocs

20 күн бұрын

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

Thats a crazy story about that castle / cult party .

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

It really is!!

The Stumble is in my humble opinion the best British blues guitar track of the 60's, blazing!

Grate Vid 🤘🏼🔥🎸 Wonderin if youd do one on Jaco Pastorius

There was another drug that came out after LSD had been made illegal called STP, that stuff would make you so high you started to panic thinking you were going to be this way forever, imagine a trip lasting a few days which distorted everything and no matter what was tried nothing seemed to take that freaky edge off making you pray for sanity to return and many didn't it disappeared as quickly as it came but did a lot of damage in a short period also..

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

I remember that stuff. I never tried it but sure remember hearing about it going around! Wicked stuff!

In the skies is by far a masterpiece!

It's funny how when an artist gets sick of the business he is in they call it a breakdown. Maybe he got sick of hanging around with a bunch of parasites that wanted him to play for money all day. Blame it on the acid! It worked for Art Linkletter.

@lw216316

3 ай бұрын

Wait - Art Linkletter - the guy who did funny kid interviews??? ....I don't get it...what is the connection?

@stephenmorton8017

3 ай бұрын

@@lw216316 his daughter committed suicide and he blamed it ALL on LSD with no proof whatsoever but hearsay and there were NO drugs in her system. he continued blaming a chemical for decades. after the autopsy he changed the narrative but retained the blame. it was very convenient. in fact it revived his career.

@timazzara9030

3 ай бұрын

​. His daughter committed suicide. I 5hink jumped out a window, supposedly on acid

@stephenmorton8017

3 ай бұрын

@@timazzara9030 that was all hearsay and the autopsy disproved she had any drugs in her system. she jumped from her kitchen window one morning. no party, no acid, all blame.

The problem with L.S.D. is that it provides a dangerous vision. My first was on the beach at Honolulu when a stranger came up and gave me some windowpane acid. Within a couple minutes the incoming waves from a mile away begins to sound like machine guns, and I was seeming to relive the attack on Pearl Harbor in '41.

@nickmorgan8434

3 ай бұрын

I was accidentally dosed between 30 and 50 hits of liquid on September 28 1998 when I was 18 I was on top of the world before that night I've never been the same

@phatphat7089

3 ай бұрын

​@nickmorgan8434 that's a lot of acid! I haven't dosed in years I dropped 5 doubles was high for 3 days quite the experience!

@ralphowen3367

3 ай бұрын

@@phatphat7089 Acid and other drugs provide or seem to, an alternate reality. But JESUS is the ultimate and everlasting reality.

@nickmorgan8434

3 ай бұрын

​@ralphowen3367 yes he is that night I was overdosed I saw demons I was terrified and thought I was in hell it broke my mind the only hope I have is in Jesus he paid for all my sins im ready to go home

@nickmorgan8434

3 ай бұрын

​@@ralphowen3367My only hope is in Christ

Alright!

Was there myself. Got through it. Had the right girl friend. Now wife

The End of the Game is an incredible album. One of a kind, nothing else like it. Peter at his peak. Peter said him and the band put acid in champaign and jammed for 6 hours straight. Peter extracted End of the Game from this 6 hour jam.

I was a teenager in the 70s when acid in the suburbs was huge.Never dropped acid. Smartest decision of my life.

@mumbles215

3 ай бұрын

You can’t say that cause you don’t know. I’m glad you are not scarred from it like Many are, including my self some. But to me I’d do it all again. The “knowledge” gained was worth the scarring. Cheers.

@susiefairfield7218

3 ай бұрын

I think of going to the Grave without having a Psychedelic Experience is like going to the Grave without ever having Sex. It means that you never Figured out what it is all about. The Mystery is in the Body and the way the Body Works itself into Nature.- Terence McKenna

@Maldoror200

3 ай бұрын

@johnnyd63..You don't know, what you dont know..ya know..?

@Maldoror200

3 ай бұрын

​@@susiefairfield7218..Hey, Let's experiment..!!?

@johnnyd63

3 ай бұрын

@Maldoror200 Always curious, but seldom reckless.I know my psyche. I'll reiterate. Glad I never tripped.

A lot of people took acid in those days without realising they were playing with fire. Some of us just got scorched. When it comes to 'mental illness' I fall back on this Doctor:- “It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” ― J. Krishnamurti

@fishypaw

3 ай бұрын

I've heard a similar saying ... "Madness is a sane person's response to living in a crazy world".

@damienflinter4585

3 ай бұрын

@@fishypaw Yep...Ken Kesey's 'One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest' put it eloquently.

@fishypaw

3 ай бұрын

@@damienflinter4585One of my favourite books. Not read it in years. Time to revisit it, I think. Cheers.

@Maldoror200

3 ай бұрын

@damienflinter..Truly profound..

I gave End Of The Game a listen on one of the streaming services. I hated it. I love Then Play On, I think that was his last album with Fleetwood Mac with Danny Kirwin. My dad introduced that to me in 1988.

@Wouter_Vuijk

2 күн бұрын

A Danny Kirwin was never part of Fleetwood Mac. However, Danny Kirwan was, and should get the credits here that he deserved.

@AlexMitchell-sj4sb

2 күн бұрын

@Wouter_Vuijk oh I missed the "a" in his name. You knew who I meant.

During his time with the original “Fleetwood Mac”, there was no one better, period.

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

Agree!

I grew mushrooms and took them while I was on Cymbalta. It was a scary trip. Warning to others: Dont do that! I told God I would never do that again and I still haven't.

Wow

Reminds me of the commercial of an egg in the skillet cooking,this is your brain ,and this in your brain on drugs

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

:))

Where is the album link that was mentioned? Can't see it in the description? Worth checking out - David Gilmour's version of 'Need Your Love So Bad', with Greenie singing....Greenie heard it before he passed and gave it his blessing

@RiverDocs

Күн бұрын

I think it may have glitched. It should be working now, but just in case I will leave it here also! Thanks for letting me know. Here is the link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXeivJuKgrK1hs4.htmlsi=bDsxSGO1vGJReb3u

You should do one on Danny Kirwan. In his way, his career was as tragic as Green's. I heard some of End Of The Game. It's a long jam, with those kinds of musicians other musicians tell stories about, like Zoot Money.

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

I might do one someday. He was a great musician too!

Does anybody know if he was playing with Fleetwood Mac and a concert down in Stockton California back in the 70s early 70s before he broke up and it was called riot at the ballpark. It was like 100 people hospitalized and 33 more cops does anybody remember that concert it had all day concert in the baseball park, buddy Miles I can’t remember everybody too old

@charliefite5143

2 ай бұрын

As soon as Fleetwood Mac got on the stage, I believe he yelled let’s everybody have a effing orgasm and that’s when the two shots of tear gas shot right out in the middle of the concert go it was a riot man, big riot with the bikers out in the park

Where is the munich sessions audio?

Yeah lsd can bring on a conflict of conscience which will drive you mad

@nuckels188

3 ай бұрын

It makes you very sensetive to everything. Can be inspiring/beautiful or scary/confusing

The forgotten genius of Fleetwood Mac and responsible for the band’s best album, Bare Trees

Excellent video!

@RiverDocs

3 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Everyone changes as they age and experience life, and some might say that staying the same is far more difficult. I barely recognise the person I was in my teens and early twenties and I sometimes wonder what or who is the real person and how life would be if we didn't have certain expectations put upon us. Society has a way of steering us in a particular direction but creative minds can often find it very difficult to conform which can be devastating to their creativity. The mind is a strange and fickle thing that can appear to play tricks on us and drug use has a way of amplifying certain, what Dr's refer to as "mental conditions". The mind of the insane person is only insane in the eyes of others and when you think that people with depression used to get locked up and given lobotomies not all that long ago, who are the real mad men?

@jonsmith3664

3 ай бұрын

Perhaps….however, insanity is easily recognizable and the threshold for it is universally accepted.

@nuckels188

3 ай бұрын

I agree that society is usually the issue, and we are deemed sick for not fitting into it. But there are also people who speak word salad and hallucinate

Fleetwood Mac was so much better then.

Imagine how much different things might have been if he would have got swept up and taken somewhere to like Laurel Canyon and instead of the hippie commune where they took him to imagine what a awesome stuff he would have come out with their😅

@mumbles215

3 ай бұрын

The CIA commune more like it.

Seems Green and Danny Kirwan had similar mental health problems. To get an idea of how good Green was, search youtube for his live version of "The Stumble" with Mayall.

What is bad about LSD is that it's too easy to take too much. It's a very scary drug. It takes awhile to feel it, so people take more sometimes. They don't realize until it's toon late.

Here’s Peter Green’s End of the Game album (I couldn’t find it in the description!) - kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXeivJuKgrK1hs4.htmlsi=H1EzSzXQZ998aFOm

And you didn't leave the link

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

Yes I did...can you still not see it? Let me know. Sorry.

Eric sacrificed his son for that success, 😢

It wasn't the drugs.

Which came first?

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

Who knows?

To me what happened to Peter may be the saddest story in rock n roll history! He was better than Clapton at pure blues and his voice was absolutely perfect for the blues! There simply at his peak no better white boy blues than Peter! The acid at first brought one of the best albums of the decade in Then Play On! Followed with Green Manalishi single and the Mac were on their way to fame and fortune beyond belief! Then tragedy struck and Peter helplessly fell into mental decline brought on by a number of factors mentioned in this piece! His final album was appropriately called The End of the Game because that’s exactly what it was! Even though the album was simply amazing it was The end for Peter! He would never be the same again! We lost one of the greatest artists in history! Very sad

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

Well said. Thanks for watching!

This is why you don't do drugs, kids

He didn't suffer from mental illness; he just fried his brain with LSD like so many did in that era. He threw his talent and legacy away for experimentation of new drugs. Does it sound familiar to anyone, because it is still happening to millions around the world. Always a sad ending.

I'm 70. Been listening to FM from the beginning. I have followed PG's and Danny's career all the way thru and find that I now disagree that PG "was taken away". Also disagree respectfully about his playing. "Intensity" is a characteristic in your playing style. For my money I have never seen a player who could hold his intensity for as long as SRV...even Jimi would at times try to be Curtis and be mellow. Back to Peter. Guitarists are alot like Pitchers n QB's. What they lose in speed and intensity they make up for in other subtle ways like sweetness or, using space as an enhancing tool. When Clapton stopped playing Gibson's he became a completely different player. Also having lived thru this period and having dropped over 100 times I can tell you LSD, Mescaline, etc is a kind of sacrement and helped me in many ways to learn about myself. It also hurt me in ways I am paying for today. Peter had some breaks in his recording/performing career AS MOST DO. I listen to his covers of RJohnson and they are soulful and most importantly heartfelt. So again IMHO we never "lost Peter. DANNY KIRWAN is the one we lost. He hardly ever gets credit for his tenure. He made 3 Solo Albums that had some very good songs but after that he really hit a bottom and never really recovered like PG did.

@AdvenuringTime

3 ай бұрын

Danny was sleeping rough in soho for years before a charity took him in. Really it’s a miracle Danny got to pass in peace rather than on a dirty street corner

@AnthonyWilson-pe3uf

3 ай бұрын

Agree re SRV.

@davidroberts7282

3 ай бұрын

Compared to what Green's band, Fleetwood Mac, achieved and became one of the biggest, most successful bands, of the 1970's and early 80's, after his arguably drug-fueled, influenced mental breakdown, in the early 70's, he did lose a lot. Now, whether or not Fleetwood Mac becomes the same wildly successful "corporate" rock band if Peter doesn't "lose the plot" like Syd in PF did, probably not in the same format. But who knows? Perhaps a Peter Green-led Fleetwood Mac evolves more into a British Eagles or Journey-like band. Different dynamics, but still a wildly, extremely successful band. Maybe the world doesn't get Stevie Nicks in her famous configuration, but perhaps she works harder and doesn't slack off and succeeds as a solo star, as opposed to solo albums being a release mechanism for her songs and music she couldn't get recorded for Fleetwood Mac or werent accepted. Quite a few of her solo songs sound like they just as easily been Fleetwood Mac songs on Rumours and Tusk.

A REAL SHAME LIKE SYD BARRETT.... TOO MUCH IS JUST ENOUGH.

JEREMIAH 17:9

I like them before the chicks, but I knew they were going to be huge when they reformed with the girls.

Rip Peter, i believe Peter was fed up with the industry itself especially the shark's and grifters that just saw peter and the band as a cash cow ready to be milked, peter obviously saw through all that shit and he had little regard for wealth and status, i think that's admirable. Hallucinogenics can often have that sort of effect of cutting through bullshit however they can also have very negative effects. I mean let's be Frank both musicians and Dr's we're literally chemistry experimets in the sixties and seventies with little regard for the consequences.

Peter Green’s son has a KZread channel. He mentioned both Peter and Danny been taken to a West German military base around the time of the ‘ Munich Incident ‘ It’s not something I’d heard before and if true, brings up a lot of questions.

@garyyarago2096

3 ай бұрын

I'm surprised no one else mentions the possibility of CIA or MI5 agents like Micheal Jefferies purposely dosing influential rock musicians or other politically active persons with malicious intent. They were doing just that in San Francisco bordellos and the FBI campaign against Black Activists is known to have included blackmail, honey traps,drugs and murder among their unsavory activities.Barret, Green and Hendrix were precisely the kind of people they wanted to target. Don' get me started on Lennon and Marley.

@nuckels188

3 ай бұрын

Mkultra explains a lot of these

@archstanton3763

3 ай бұрын

@@nuckels188 It most certainly does. They may well have earmarked Peter for very big things in the 1970s, he’d of been perfect for superstardom as he had all the qualities. I’m surmising they either gave him a taste or made their intentions ( partly ) known and he wasn’t receptive. Hence not only the ‘ treatment ‘ that followed but also the partial trashing of his reputation / personality.

I suspect the whole original incident has been overdramatised and from what I know of psychiatric survivors as much harm can be caused by antipsychotic medication, particularly in the 1960s. I have experienced antipsychotic medication myself and it certainly dulled my creativity, fortunately I have made a full recovery from that. Anyway I have seen later interviews with Peter Green and he seems to have been a willing participant with the psychadelic experimentation. I particularly dislike comparisons with Syd Barrat. Syd Barrett had his head screwed on, he walked away from the rat race and lived a better life as a result of that, away from the glare of publicity. Alcohol has probably destroyed more artists lives than acid ever has.

This is exactly why I’d never try these mind altering drugs.

@67marlins

3 ай бұрын

You're very smart - stay with those good principles and you'll be happier and healthier than most people. It's terrifying to ponder that a drug can cause permanent brain damage.

💀..(sighh..)..What "Fleetwood Mac" became later. on, was truly a Disgrace..😖

He took too much.

Man this was such a great mini documentary on a legend Peter Green 👍🎸🎛️ oh and by the way I'm going to check that album out the end of the game

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

Thank you. Appreciate you watching!!

Don’t do drugs kids.

Poor Pete, they did way more harm to him with tranquilisers and ECT than acid ever did.

@RiverDocs

16 күн бұрын

Thing was after all them electro shock and and tranqs he kept on dropping acid which did not help him at all. He was such a great talent.

In Peter's day eric couldn't lace Peter's boots FACT I rest ma case.

Peter Green is much better than Clapton. Much better. And so is Danny Kirwan.

See I A ???

Peter had a disdain for fame and fortune. That is as admirable beyond words for me. He was still a broken man. But in the end, I can assure you that a special place was prepared for Peter in the next life. Besides has wonderful and natural talent on a guitar, appreciate the example he set for the sake of humbleness and humility....

Doesn't make sense,never came back

Sex , drugs and rock n roll !! That's cool daddio !!

@RiverDocs

3 күн бұрын

:))

The main scientific evidence that drugs do you harm was that people found Cheech and Chong funny.

@RiverDocs

3 ай бұрын

lol!

@St63420

18 күн бұрын

They were hilarious. Not everybody's cup of tea, tho.😂. The right place at the right time Is a drummers delight.

But had Peter Green a happy life? LSD is not a disease.

@67marlins

3 ай бұрын

Peter wound up broke, homeless, institutionalized for mental health breakdown, etc. LSD is a dangerous drug to play with. There's no good reason to risk permanent brain damage.

@expressoevangelism80

3 ай бұрын

Perhaps not a disease, how do you designate a disease. Those type of drugs definitely cause a lot of mental health, as my son would have confirmed if he had lived. He took his life as a direct result of the heavy drug effect, the mental breakdown down and the crushing depression that plagued his life. He could not have done it, without the effect of the drugs he took prior to doing it. My dear son, was a wonderful gifted man, who many loved. He had 3 beautiful young children, who now have to grow up without a father, because of his heavy attraction to the hold that drugs had created in his mind. I would suggest that you might consider the disease that developed in my son’s mind as a result of those types of drugs. He started with pot, and it developed from there, as it was being corrupted with additional drugs, and it grew from there.

another great Doc. Thanks R/D. L.S.D. ? wild stuff.

@RiverDocs

3 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Dennis!

There were two albums that he made after End of the Game that you didn't mention...one was called "In the Skies" and the other I can't recall the title...I have them both and In the Skies is pretty good...I think better than End of Game.

@andrewhush8776

3 ай бұрын

I have a solo album from 1988 called legend

Just hearing the words that you’re speaking and watching the videos😳😳😳 kind of hurt😢😢😢 he was a wonderful musician and a wonderful person.... truly to be missed.... sleep tight Peter🥰

LSD is nothing to play with. I tried it couple of times when I was younger and loved the trip. But I've seen people have bad trips on the first time they did it. It's sure not for everyone and you have to be in the right state of mind to do it. The crap that passes for LSD now I highly doubt is even real. It takes a long time to make and a ton of lab equipment. I would never touch it now and it's not something you should do all the time. Once or twice a year maybe but like I said, I doubt its genuine LSD these days. Eat some mushrooms if you want to trip. It's not the same but it's close enough. I'll stick to weed.

@gunnarmarks5754

3 ай бұрын

Spot on … A lot of what goes around is now is “stp” or “2cb”

@davidroberts7282

3 ай бұрын

The old adage, "It's not for everyone" has always come across as a strange, odd sort of self-righteous" sort of justification or reasoning for why certain drugs or substances are only for the duly-elected, like a kind of counterculture "Social Darwinism". If a very strong, extremely powerful liquid LSD-25 isn't " for everyone", then how in the hell should anyone know it's really for them? Because maybe they don't suffer onset of schizophrenia, psychotic episodes or symptoms in Patient A then ________. If it's not for everyone, what makes you so sure its for you or 90-95% other people?

@davidroberts7282

3 ай бұрын

STP is an extremely powerful, liquid form of LSD that can cause trips that will last 2-3 days. And most people tend to sip it, or drink it laced with Kool-Aid, Coke or Pepsi, like the Dead did (or the Warlocks as they were known) during their famed "Acid trips" as the house band when LSD was still a legal, purchasable substance in California in mid-60's before being banned in 1966. Ken Kesey's Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.

@gunnarmarks5754

3 ай бұрын

@@davidroberts7282 stp is not a form of lsd, they are each their own chemical compound

@rushshukla4636

3 ай бұрын

I'll stick with weed. Got no time for druggies and alchies. Most of the most creative people I've met do weed. Good weed. Pure uncut skunk. In fact to me it's herb, medication. I've done tons of acid and shrooms though I've always had a strong mind. Had a few bad trips but I've learned much from them. If you've got a few loose screws don't trip. I've seen it destroy people.