Our conversation was a pleasure. Thank you, Lawrence.

@christiancasper44

Жыл бұрын

Is that Dylan in the picture behind you?

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

L Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !!🤡

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

@@christiancasper44 L Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !!🤡

@ghostdog4330

Жыл бұрын

I'd like to borrow from Robert M. Pirsig and suggest it was Quality. o7

38:18 - "When you get groups of smart people together and they don't tether their conclusions to an empirical reality, then they're not gate-keepers of reason, they're mouthpieces of the dominant moral orthodoxy" Couldn't have surmised it better.

@gravitheist5431

Жыл бұрын

Suspension of disbelief

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

L Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !!🤡

Awesome conversation. I love how Dr Krauss is able to voice disagreement but he does it in such a kind of compassionate way. We desperately need more of this in the world

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

L Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !!🤡

Glad he mentioned Anthony Magnabosco in a good light. Lawrence keep it up awesome conversations.

Very good discussion.

I loved this conversation for so many reasons! Thank you to you both 🙏

What a fascinating conversation. I was most drawn to the (almost) uncomfortable, but very amicable disagreement that popped up throughout the conversation. My small place in the universe, wherever and whatever that is, is a bit better for having access to (for me) challenging conversations like this. With thanks.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

I tend to listen to any podcast that features Peter but this one stands out. Great interview, Lawrence - thank you!

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

L Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !!🤡

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

L Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !!🤡

i love it when lawrence asks himself to talk less and listen more, but fails and talks more than humanly possible anyway :D admittedly in later podcasts he's still in far better control than before.

That was a great conversation. It made me wonder if James Lindsay could be a future guest.

@matthewparlato5626

Жыл бұрын

James Lindsay would melt Krauss' worldview in less than 5 min

@rjmeeker89

Жыл бұрын

I like Peter but i think he is too far left. I fear people like him would simply create a new "woke" ideology if we somehow manage to get rid of it now.

@zaknefain100

Жыл бұрын

@@rjmeeker89 Really? What's 'too far' left anyways? Since left is left of wherever you see yourself on the spectrum. What ideas does he express that you feel are dangerous?

This podcast needs more views

Wonderful and unique conversation.

I really enjoyed this discussion and conversation, well done. Thank you.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

This was such a good guest. I'm invested now

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

@sadoxell5462

Жыл бұрын

@AFSAR _GUNNER ya I don't think he should waste his time on religious idiots either. Embarrassing to be an adult and run around mindlessly believing in things without evidence.

Great podcast! Thank you very much

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

That was fun 👍

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

Great discussion, really enjoyed it!

Great host Lawrence! I was expecting Anthony Magnabosco, who’s also fascinating, and I took a break to check out Peter - he’s intriguing as well. As much as I love Dawkins and Hitchens, maybe a multi-pronged approach is best to make people question their beliefs. It seems like these methods are creeping into the (independent) media as well, like Jordan Klepper of the Daily Show (except the “interviewee” doesn’t get it).

Great convo

50:00 this is what i've liked about the street epistemology "technique", instead of winding up arguing you "team up" with the other person so you can both explore the reasons for arriving at a belief, rather than trying to prove the other person is wrong or showing them evidence that they are wrong, you both look at how you're arriving at a belief and being surprised by the result, you may take an antagonistic viewpoint, but you are BOTH trying to find out about BOTH your ability to arrive at correct conclusions.

@HarryNicNicholas

Жыл бұрын

watch peter at work, but anthony magnabosco i think perfected the technique, and the bonus is that he has had hundreds of amazingly interesting conversations of a wide variety of topics.

I have always been skeptical about the phrase, "The best things in life are free", and suspicious about those who say it. After watching this podcast I'm going to have a re-think about that. Thanks to you both.

Excellent conversation. I enjoyed the tension between the physic's mind and the philosopher's mind. Bias noted I have the Philosopher and educator mine but I ALSO love math! I would argue that in my Theory of Learning that we often learn without direct empirical information and the most important part of learning is the self correction we do upon reflection like Peter is describing in the challenging of the S method... Unlearning is the biggest challenge now because so many have been indoctrinated from public institutions

I like the Confidence Adjustment Method, a method where Peter confronts college students and has them move to various lines on the ground to represent their degree of belief in a proposition whereby he introduces a confounding argument and then asks them to reassess their stated/stood confidence level and move to a new line of confidence if they are convinced of the cogency of Peter's argument, or one of the other participants arguments about why they have the confidence in the proposition they have, it seems to me that the act of making someone change degrees of confidence in a belief is a better technique for changing thinking than attempting to brute force argue against a binary, such as Christian good and atheist not as good, or vice versa.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

I came across the problem with peer review from the veritasium video, produced six years ago apparently: Is Most Published Research Wrong?

With all respect Mr. Krauss, it would be great to allow Mr. Boghossian to speak much more. You are very smart. So is he but he is your guest. You need to ask questions of him and allow him to answer.

Peter ♥️♥️♥️

I always seem to buy a book after watching your interviews, Lawrence. Perhaps you coul put an affiliate link in your video notes?

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

L Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !!🤡

@simonyoungglostog

Жыл бұрын

@@afsar_gunner5271 Whereas comments like that make you look stupid.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

@simonyoungglostog

Жыл бұрын

@@afsar_gunner5271 Do you really believe that? You are making yourself into someone that I don't want to know.

Mr. Krauss. Please try not to interrupt:):)

I have a 16 year old daughter. Please tell me how to find out more about these "alternative" colleges.

@BrianHill

11 ай бұрын

Deep Springs College is worth contemplating (a shameless plug for something I belong to ;) ).

9 minutes until 9:13, explained the ability to interject into your own mind using reason and the physical world you're a part of, 36:55 collaborative but not cooperative, that second term holds us back, I realize that in order to test ideas you need collaborative research, once something has been shown to be true, that's when the cooperative has to be put in play, so we all benefit from the knowledge that been uncovered. Science needs a democratic information dump. Much like the new library being created by Jamie Joyce and her team. Your doing it again Lawrence, maybe do a rant or breakdown of the problems you see with where you're guests prior to your discussion, so your guests have a little more time to explain themselves. I really do appreciate everything you've been doing since the start of the Origins Podcast. I'm wondering if you watch some of your own podcasts to conduct a postmortem.

Would you host prof. (soon to be emeritus, I think) Vincent Racaniello? He is a great science-communicator in the US, and a co-editor of "The principles of virology". I think it would be fun, he is very interesting. Or perhaps Dr Amy Rosenfeld at the FDA. She is awesome!

Holy molly....hahahaha ....lucu banget. TERIMAKASIH ilmu nya ya. With love from INDONESIA.

25:00 precisely. to be "ignorant" has connotations, but it applies to everyone and to pretty much every subject, i hate admitting i don't know things - which is a bad move.

Excellent interview/discussion/subject matter!! Right around time 1:46:00 I hear what in some sense suggests a conflict of convictions in Peter's ideation. Here's what I've noticed: Early in the conversation he established that he believes minds can and should be changed (as I understand it, that is what street epistemology seeks to accomplish), however, at 1:46:00 he suggests it's a waste of time or resources to try "changing" the ethos of existing academic institutions. I see this as inconsistent reason. On another note, I started to stop listening to NPR when 'Car Talk' went of the air, and then I made a full stop when 'A Prairie Home Companion' stoped airing.

@VaughanMcCue

Жыл бұрын

@Rick Kikta I think the goal of S/E is to encourage the interlocutor to consider their thinking about how they arrive at their beliefs rather than causing a change. Some beliefs may be helpful and serve the person well, and understanding their epistemology may strengthen the individual in other aspects of their life. I see your point about encouraging an individual to be open to belief revision. According to Pew research, churches are closing down at 20% yearly because many good people are coming to their senses and quitting superstition. The task of inoculating institutions already infested with the disease would take too much effort to wipe out the warts of wokeness. Thanks for your interest and contribution

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

Hi Lawrence Im a big fan, A Univerce from nothing is my favourite Book. I have 2 questions for you 1. Do you think it is possible that we humans are som kind of experiment of aliens they put us here 2. is it not to far out that black holes are other universes bouncing into us

@TheOriginsPodcast

Жыл бұрын

1. unlikely, 2. too far out.

@cannonsnack1

Жыл бұрын

@@TheOriginsPodcast tx for responding

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

L Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !!🤡

Don't you think the most important variable when discussing other intelligent life in the universe is time/lifespan? It seems it would be much more likely for one intelligent species to find the archeological artifacts of a previous lifeform than one that is currently living.

I'm glad to discover that this topic is 'Critical Thinking' because i saved it under Critical Thinking before i listened to it😁😊

The thing about infinite regress is that they say it's not possible because infinity itself is meant to not be possible, but infinity exists in death as in once you're dead, you're dead for infinity but even that has a start weather it be the day you're conceived or the day you die so maybe a infinite regress is impossible 🤷‍♂️

What gives the law of gravity that Newton proposed value is that it works, so well that we routinely land probes on Mars, except when some Systems Engineer screws up the units on the Interface Control Document. Predictions are inherently stochastic but they're the best way to verify or falsify a proposition. What does CRT predict, and how well does it do it?

this bumper music sounds like a trailer for Shawshank Redemption or something...expecting a narrator to swing in..."in a world where two guys talk, things are discussed...ideas are considered"

I’m glad to see Krauss isn’t avoiding blacklisted people.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

@aidananstey9848

9 ай бұрын

@@afsar_gunner5271 Copy and paste a non related reply to every comment - what a clown.

@aidananstey9848

9 ай бұрын

Who's "blacklisted"? Anyone who's a target of the woke clown's at Portland SU and attacked by antifa lunatics is probably someone worth listening to.

Worth watching a 2nd time ;)

Is that Dylan in the picture behind you?

keep up the good work both of you.:) Mr. Krauss, please have Sam Harris on.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

L Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !!🤡

Earth Final Conflict was not a horrible show! The first season was fantastic.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

As usual, great discussion between 2 great minds (my opinion); and as usual you can't stop interrupting one way or the other! (This one is not just my opinion!)🤪

I believe in the Word of God.

The music needs to end much MUCH sooner. Thankyouplease.

you know there's no emperical basis for watching every science fiction show on netflix.

personally i like to think about from the opposite end of the stick, that life is common and could be found on every rock and lump of stone in the universe from end to the other, and the REAL problem is that the universe is really, really, really good at KILLING stuff. whether more life is out there, and whether it's intelligent or not remains to be seen, but pretty much ANY theory is just as likely as another. what we OUGHT to do is assume we ARE the only life in the entire universe and if we value that to look after ourselves and our planet - it doesn't matter if there is life anywhere else or not -WE are all there is so far.

👍

Did you ever hear of someone named: Dr. Carolyn Leaf? She teaches about the “neuro-plasticity” of the brain, and that it is extremely possible to “change your habits” and change your “usual thinking”, with specific actions, consistently, over time. Gotta go, Peter. You need a FRAME OF REFERENCE. THE BIBLE HAS BEEN MINE. IT’S THE BEST REFERENCE FOR HUMAN NATURE AND THE LIVING IN A WAY THAT PROMOTES “LIFE”….NEVER TOWARD “DEATH”.

@py_a_thon

5 ай бұрын

What is your explanation for why some parts of the bible seem to support some abhorrent activities, such as the owning and beating of slaves?

What is your TV program list worth watching Peter Boghossian? You mention it about 2 hours in.

20:40 I've seen a discussion of Boghossian's atheism book done by a believer that made it quite clear that attackiing and destroying peoples' religious beliefs and traditions was exactly what A Manual for Creating Atheists was about. I think what you have here is two atheists who lack the self awareness that their worldviews are faiths just as a religious worldview is a faith and so they are completely unaware of how the book comes across to a religious individual. It's always been a paradox with Boghossian that he is obsessed with epistemology and yet never, ever questions his idea that religion is delusion. It's really quite remarkable. If you're a fan of his, it's one of those situations of once you see a thing you can't unsee it. Boghossian operates with a blindspot that is fatal to the very project he's devoted his life to, and lacks any awareness that the blind spot exists at all.

@NomDeGuerre96

5 ай бұрын

How is it a faith to accept that we can’t know why or how reality exists?

@ThePresident001

4 ай бұрын

Why are believers so desperate to get others to think that the lack of belief in a god is a faith-based belief? Seems to betray a deep down knowledge that religion is irrational.

1:50:00 also i think a more likely reason is that if you have technology that would allow you to overcome faster than light travel, you won't be associating with physical things that much, i suspect that when we beat the faster than light trick it will involve other dimensions or manipulating reality in some way, the the reason we aren't seeing anyone is because "they aren't there" - they occupy a different dimension / universe / reality, in a science way, not a woo woo way (lol). and a nagging thought of mine is like this, i would like to live long enough to explore the universe, but even if i could do that, would i want to live forever? i'm 68 and already slightly bored with some things, and although if i had the means to travel anywhere in the universe then sooner or later i will lose interest, i wonder, if you have developed the technology to travel the universe, have you overcome all the interesting problems that make life worthwhile, do these civilizations just "give up"? and when it comes to timescales, i heard that it's quite possible that mars is where we actually originated but no evidence of civilistaion is going to survive millions of years, that we originated on mars, colonised earth, both planets experienced extinction events, mars died, civilisations on earth died too, and life started afresh later, we are the result of a SECOND iteration of life on earth.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

In a perfect world, once Peter mentioned his love of Sci-Fi, the two of you would have just focused on that topic for the rest of the show. Give us some of you favorite recommendations for crying out loud! :D

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

@Jeremy-df1ld

Жыл бұрын

​@@afsar_gunner5271 Uhhh...are you sure you replied to the right comment? What a strange non sequitur.

All the interruptions were annoying....

Two great people and a nice video. Please give each other a few sentences at least--even more if they catch a flow--before interrupting each other. Krauss was most guilty of this in this interview, though Peter interrrupted too. It is not fun to listen to when that happens.

I'm a huge Krauss fan since the lecture on nothing from about 12-13 years ago. The one thing many physicists like him do though is portray the scientific method far too strongly. It works like that for physics but we've seen that emotions, economics and sociology play a massive role in medicine and pharma. Look at the dogma around aerosol transmission of COVID. It was obvious but the orthology in medical schools, CDC, government scientists all rejected it. They didn't calmly reason scientifically - emotions, careers, incentives, government/corporate pressure etc. all got in the way. The only evidence that would sway them is RCTs, they couldn't reason from first principle. Krauss telling of the scientific method is absolutely what we should strive to. But it's demonstrably false in many scientific fields.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

L Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !!🤡

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

Really wish Lawrence could refrain from finishing Peter's sentences and talking over him.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

Love the show in general and this one was especially good. But just to add my voice to criticism here (and on other episodes): STOP INTERRUPTING AND TALKING OVER YOUR GUESTS!

hehe, Lawrence makes a lot of "correct" points

1. Academe has been falling apart since Plato's Republic Book X: academic freedom vs. poetic license. 2. Another prime misreading especially as 2022 Nobel Prize in physics gossip, is why Stephen Hawking gave up a book of American baseball statistics to Leonardo Susskind ---> because all that Maldecena anti-de Sitter space math wasn't quite cricket.

I disagree that all knowledge is empirical. Some knowledge is strictly logical, such as mathematical proofs and so on.

Peter, you don't think there is intelligent life out there? Wow! The odds are good that there is at least something, just by sheer mathematical probability based on the amount of stars and galaxies..etc.. just the distances are so vast, we havn't heard/seen anything yet...at least that's what I tend to think.

@Doutsoldome

Жыл бұрын

There is a book titled "Rare Earth: Why Complex Life Is Uncommon in the Universe," by Peter Ward (a geologist) and Donald Brownlee (an astronomer), written in 2000. It advocates the "rare Earth hypothesis," which says that the evolution of life that is complex enough to be highly intelligent requires such an improbable combination of factors, that it would be extremely rare -- which could be true even if simple living organisms were common throughout the universe. The rarity would be not in the existence of life per se, but in the existence of _complex_ life. I'm not sure about my own position about this hypothesis, but I suppose it is a possibility that should be considered.

@HarryNicNicholas

Жыл бұрын

by shear mathematical probability the odds are we are the only life in the entire universe. see how probability works? personally i like to think about from the opposite end of the stick, that life is common and could be found on every rock and lump of stone in the universe from end to the other, and the REAL problem is that the universe is really, really, really good at KILLING stuff. whether more life is out there, and whether it's intelligent or not remains to be seen, but pretty much ANY theory is just as likely as another. what we OUGHT to do is assume we ARE the only life in the entire universe and if we value that to look after ourselves and our planet - it doesn't matter if there is life anywhere else or not -WE are all there is so far.

@drpeterboghossian

Жыл бұрын

“Where is everybody?”

@hypoluxa

Жыл бұрын

Still evolving? Maybe? There's got to be some sort of life. Complex intelligent life? Who knows, but I still think that it is probable.

@HarryNicNicholas

Жыл бұрын

@@hypoluxa either floating around disembodied, terraforming sounds good but it's impractical, esp for mars, and it will be easier to modify humans - prosthetics, robotocs, AI, we're well on the way. also brian greene was talking about near light speed travel with generations of people taking hundreds of years for their journey, if that were so a race of people would be well out of sync with their home planet, in fact if you sent out five ships not only would the home planet likely be dead by the time they "arrive" but because of time dilation each ship would be 100's if not thousands or even millions of years out of sync with each other, we might be in a period in between those ships talking off and landing.

I get upset when you use the word WOKE. Woke means injustice to most of us. So my Grandmother was a woke, she was not able to vote at 18. The Suffragette's protested for the right to vote.

@fatcole1152

Жыл бұрын

After checking into Peter Boghossian after seeing his anti-NPR piece, he is apparently one of those right wing shills that likes to fly under the radar by putting up a front, pretending that he is simply being objective. He is anything but. If hearing him say woke offended you, then watching his anti-NPR piece called "All Things Re-Considered" will surely make you downright upset. From that it becomes clear why he was fired from Portland State University without even taking into consideration the misconduct that caused his termination.

@aidananstey9848

9 ай бұрын

@@fatcole1152 lmao, "woke" clowns like you calling clasical liberal critical thinkers "right wing schill's" is just PERFECT 👌. The "left eating the left"😂😂 And let me guess what part of the NPR series pissed you off, you're an antifa p*do defender/apologist and were pissed off Peter agreed with Kyle Rittenhouse's not guilty verdict? Every NPR criticism in that series is 1000% spot on.

You poke the bear Peter! I think you are a hypocrite. Do you strongly agree?

Used to enjoy listening to your show. The conversations keep taking a turn for the worse with this type of guests. Nothing more than the old guard trying to hang on to power or perhaps relevance in this case.

@stephenmassa4151

Жыл бұрын

What is your TV program list worth watching Peter Bogosian? You mention it about 2 hours in.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

Prof Krauss, your love of your own voice is infuriating and must be more so by your guests. Your endless interruptions are rude and narcissistic. Please stop this so that your good show can become great.

@afsar_gunner5271

Жыл бұрын

Dwarf Krauss is a scientist but when he debates about God/religion etc then he really makes himself look stupid !! what a clown🤡

1:29:15 I can only assume that Boghossian is referring to male circumcision here, given that this mutilation is performed 1.4 million times per year in the U.S. (source: nih.gov). To be thorough, I compared this to gender-affirming surgeries on minors, and that number is 3600/year. I don’t disagree that both are concerning practices, but given that the former statistic vastly outnumbers the latter, it ought to be the primary area of concern.