I will never understand Netflix’s decision to make such a quiet, thoughtful, and kind protagonist make snarky remarks in a “Jim from the office” style.

@jacquil6718

2 жыл бұрын

Because it’s Netflix. Given enough time and money, Netflix could even ruin Shakespeare.

@sarahchavez3431

Жыл бұрын

Jim from the office🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Gold

@talithasuter6365

Жыл бұрын

I KNOW, how dare they insult precious Jimothy by stealing his signature move and including it in this farce!?

@maryhamric

Жыл бұрын

Good god this nails it completely!!!

@thomme8539

Жыл бұрын

Feels like they're trying to do the same thing as the 2020 version of Emma but it fits far better for that character than here

Anne Elliott is such a unique character. She is humble, quiet, introverted. She does everything for others. Why is everyone taking these beloved female characters and trying to make them fiesty? Persuasion is my favourite novel. This doesn't fit the tone of the novel at all. It feels like they are trying to make it a comedy. Why can't they just leave a great story as it is. It is beloved for a reason. What is so wrong with being humble, sincere and quiet as a woman? Not every female alive has to be feisty.

@_beidou_8921

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly 😭

@user-kb4km2up9n

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Miss Anne Elliot was a self-representation for me in this world of sassy and fiesty characters, I was waiting for this movie so much and then I got this. Feel a little dumbfounded.

@KiteFlyingVespa

2 жыл бұрын

This. Media is saturated with feisty characters. I'm sick of them.

@tibbysj4846

2 жыл бұрын

I was so excited for this, but I have a feeling I'm not going to be happy when it finally comes out.

@liv97497

2 жыл бұрын

It always seems strange to me when writers decide "I think *I*, incredible writer that I am, can improve on this iconic character written by a highly respected and celebrated author, and the generations of people who have loved this story for years will surely like that I fundamentally changed everything about the character."

I agree with a lot of the comments here. Female empowerment is not about replacing every introverted female character with a “sassy” personality. I want to see more representation of quiet and sincere women that I can actually relate to😭

@iorethofgondor

Жыл бұрын

yes.

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

The irony is that Jane Austen's 'Persuasion' contains some fascinating and pertinent discussions about the perceptions of women back in her day. They could have had a field day exploring those. They didn't need this wishy-washy modernist travesty.

@Kim-bp1kb

Жыл бұрын

Yes. It gives the implication that you can't be a strong empowered woman unless your sassy eith everyone. The thing that's ridiculous is that Anne actually was a strong and empowered woman. She knew she had made a mistake and when given a second chance she stepped out, took the opportunity, and embraced the life she wanted. That's empowering in any time, but especially during the age. She also learned to stand up to her family and for herself by the end of the story, and she did it her own way, without being sassy.

@midnightstarlis6405

Жыл бұрын

this comment and along with the replies. I’m really like really sick of seeing women being that sassy, quirky, and badass trope. Like, women can be strong with mind, knowledge, wise, and even if they are introverted, quiet, or a shy type, they can be strong and put you in your place when they want to. You don’t always have to be that mean or sassy girl to be strong.

@leukemia6175

Жыл бұрын

Yup, women is consider strong if they are like teasing, outgoing, provocative, flirting, and have a tragic backstory lmao its funny

Anne Elliot is a superior woman. She is thoughtful, kind, quiet yet observant, steadfast and of sound principles. She's represented all the introvert women for the past 200 years and shown the world their unimaginable worth. And then Netflix comes along and makes her a loud, sassy, flirt with a big mouth. As if she'd ever say "Wentworth" whilst thinking of him. As if she'd be as vulgar as Mrs. Elton from Emma. Ridiculous.

@elvi4

Жыл бұрын

My own personality is closer to Lizzie, but one must admire an Anne Elliot!! She's one of the most amazing women in literature!

@lovetolovefairytales

Жыл бұрын

Oh my god, THAT is who she reminded me of in this! Mrs. Elton. No wonder I find her so damn annoying.

@iorethofgondor

Жыл бұрын

@@lovetolovefairytales dreadfully good point.

@pippadawg7037

Жыл бұрын

I agree. Having her cop a squat and pee by a tree while hiding from Louisa and Mr. Wentworth did nothing to move the story forward and was such a betrayal to the style and spirit of the novel. Why all the makeup and red lipstick? Dakota Johnson has beautiful skin and features. They really didn't understand the message of the story. Anne thought she did the wrong thing in "giving up" Wentworth but the audience is supposed to know better. He didn't deserve her until he made his fortune. That was part of the point of the visit to Mrs. Smith. That could have been Anne had she thrown her lot in with Wentworth at a young age and he got killed at sea. She would have been in trouble much like her friend. Wentworth had spent extravagantly and had not saved his money won in the Navy. At his age it didn't look good for him to win more but of course he did and by then he learned to save. Mrs. Russel was right to encourage Anne to give him up. Part of the reason he made so much money was daring and it is difficult to be daring if you know your death could leave your wife widowed with nothing. Mrs Russell wasn't wrong to encourage her to break off the engagement and Anne wasn't wrong to listen to her elders. To think Austen meant to ignore your elders they have no wisdom to offer, is just mad.

@doctorposting

Жыл бұрын

wait what. whats wrong w saying his name?

I'm so glad someone got paid for: "Now we're worse than exes, we're friends" The biggest eye roll in the world doesn't do it justice! Why change something so beautiful and insightful. What Austen actually wrote is, "“There could have never been two hearts so open, no tastes so similar, no feelings so in unison, no countenances so beloved. Now they were as strangers; nay, worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted. It was a perpetual estrangement.”

@bronzeblues7795

2 жыл бұрын

It's basically what is wrong with this adaptation in a nutshell. It has a distinct quirky feel of 2020 Emma with a splash of Bridgerton and that's just not... it.

@ashildrtheswift3028

2 жыл бұрын

Right? The new line is absolutely terrible, and so far from the original that it's laughable

@teeveeclub

2 жыл бұрын

THAT PART!

@annemariestrehl

2 жыл бұрын

I was confused by that line in the trailer too. I don't think an ex was a thing during that time. It sounds too modern and like lazy paraphrasing.

@bronzeblues7795

2 жыл бұрын

@@annemariestrehl exactly "an ex" didn't exist in that time. It sounds like a desperate modernisation of the piece.

'Now we are worse than exes - We are friends' ????? When do Anne and Wentworth become friends after their separation?? They skirt around each other awkwardly for the entire book until the gravity of their feelings is too much and they collide back together in the most romantic scene I have ever read... They exist in the same room for months and barely acknowledge one another and THAT IS THE POINT. Their yearning is too intense for a simple friendship to exist!! Its agony for them to be in the same room together and THAT IS WHAT MAKES THE BOOK SO GOOD.

@ellenlittle6551

Жыл бұрын

Also, the Regency Era didn’t have “exes”! 😖

@Seca95

Жыл бұрын

@@ellenlittle6551 I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the characters pulled out an iPhone from their pocket in the movie

@domz6254

Жыл бұрын

@@Seca95 haha this made me laugh out loud

@AnABSOLUTEBarbarian

Жыл бұрын

It really cheapens the pain Anne feels when she’s around Wentworth. It’s agonizing. To me that line is the worse part of the trailer. It’s just so reductive to Anne’s heartbreak.

@akuhappy3246

Жыл бұрын

@@Seca95 it could be

Dakota Johnson basically plays herself in every role she takes on. You can modernize a classic without removing it's heart & soul. Unfortunately, Netflix didn't get the message.

@sofiarashid8895

Жыл бұрын

Her acting leads me to sleep.

@1970brenz

Жыл бұрын

I liked her compared to Wentworth his acting just didn't convince me at all. He looked on drugs! Perhaps all the pressure!?

@CatrionaRuadh

Жыл бұрын

that smarmy smirk never leaves Dakota Johnson's face ....... hardly an Anne Elliot!

@CyclingM1867

Жыл бұрын

@@CatrionaRuadh that alone, if nothing else, would be enough to turn me off of this adaptation.

@rebeccasreellens6079

Жыл бұрын

I wished Joe Wright wrote the screenplay. One of my favs has to be Pride and Prejudice. Kiera Knightly would have added so much depth and intrigue to Anne's character.

I just watched this film. I am so happy that Jane Austen couldn't live long enough to watch this. The characters and plot are so far removed from her original idea, that she would be appalled to be even remotely associated with this adaptation. Austen's fans: DO NOT WATCH.

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry: I already knew from the words 'new adaptation' that this would depart from the book. I am only shocked at the lengths they have gone to here. Anne pouring liquid on her own head and smearing jam on her upper lip? They need this in order to be funny? Do they think we're too stupid to appreciate Jane Austen's satire and wit?

@catherinehart5949

Жыл бұрын

Jane Austen just did 10 flips in her grave...

@average3394

Жыл бұрын

As someone who haven't read any of her novel, should I watch it? Read all comments and everyone is angry about not doing movie by the book. So for a non-reader and movie lover, is it a good movie ?

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

@@average3394 No, it's not a good movie. If you just want entertainment, then go ahead and watch. But this is *not* Persuasion by Jane Austen. There are better adaptations that other people have mentioned.

@average3394

Жыл бұрын

@@Musicienne-DAB1995 got u. Thanks

But what I love most about Anne is the fact that she isn't mischievous or always dabbling in the affairs of others. She isn't cheeky and always smirking at cameras. She's reserved, calm, and mature. That's not the vibe this is giving.

@alexandjuergen

2 жыл бұрын

And that is an essential part of her character, she is older, washed-up and defeated to live a life of serving her family. The whole story is she is given a second chance.

@Dizzydollie7

2 жыл бұрын

The character you’re describing sounds more interesting to watch than this Jennifer-Lawrence-in-any-role-2010’s crap I’m looking at except with Dakota. I think they try to make women characters written a certain way have no meekness about them whatsoever and end up with these blobs of smirking nonsense

@jean-mariking7723

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dizzydollie7 Totally agree!

@rachelpalm7403

2 жыл бұрын

I think mature is one of the best words to describe her.

@dmurray2978

2 жыл бұрын

Victorian England is somehow more diverse than modern England hmmmmmmm

The comment section absolutely passed the vibe check. I went there expecting to find people fawning over the Regency-era setting and Dakota Johnson. Instead, I find deep, thoughtful analyses and critiques, probably better than I could've found anywhere else. Jane Austen would've been proud :)

@ChildOfTheFlower

2 жыл бұрын

The media will probably call fans names for not gushing at this.

@zs3101

2 жыл бұрын

How do you know if Jane Austen would've been proud? Did you know her personally?

@thisnigerianlovesdrinkingg4522

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like you would love the Jane Austen Reddit group then. So many amazing input.

@anaisnin7983

2 жыл бұрын

@Z S - don't you? Obviously never read an Austin novel nor deigned to peruse her biography. Jane WOULD be tickled that she is still relevant and beloved by fans who defend her. NETFLIX SUCKS. Watch the BBC Sally Hawkins version. The vampires at Netflix deserve an Upper Decker.

@zs3101

2 жыл бұрын

@@anaisnin7983 to make such assumptions is beyond conceivable arrogance..... however, I will let you to jog on

Jane Austin would have been mortified If she had seen her book made into such torture to watch

@flask223

Жыл бұрын

I think she'd like it

@winstonsmith7801

Жыл бұрын

@@flask223 Don't be so disrespectful.

@aps2712

Жыл бұрын

She had a sense of humour, so I reckon she would have liked it

@jeannetteharrison4011

Жыл бұрын

@@aps2712 you knew her well then?

@aps2712

Жыл бұрын

@@jeannetteharrison4011 about as well as you I'd imagine

They turned Anne Elliott into Lydia Bennet according to this trailer.

@hiskiatoivonen8255

Жыл бұрын

Hello, how are you

@ptitecame6688

Жыл бұрын

That's a nice way to put it.

@wiikendii

Жыл бұрын

even worse in my opinion, they turnes Anne elliott into Bridget Jones in my opinion.

I know I shouldn't judge this before seeing it, but I agree with the other commenters. If screenwriters don't like Austen's quiet, reserved heroines like Anne and Fanny, why don't they just adapt P&P or Emma instead of turning them into those characters? Introverted women exist and deserve to be seen and loved for who they are, not forced to change into society's idea of what a strong woman should look like. Looks like they made the same mistake as that 90s Mansfield Park.

@bridgetrose9407

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly said!

@adelinewar3222

2 жыл бұрын

true

@RuteAlves7

2 жыл бұрын

This is one of my favourite Jane Austen heroines and they completely butchered her. She doesnt look like someone who could be persuaded of anything, she feels rebelious and nothing at all like in the book. I'll stick with Amanda Root's and Sally Hawkins wonderful Anne's interpretations

@srkh8966

2 жыл бұрын

No! I’m tired of Lizzy being misrepresented. But, you absolutely may judge this before seeing it because we all know the title should be Persuadegerton.

@andreaweber8059

2 жыл бұрын

I really didn't like what they did with Mansfield Park (though the film was a hit), but this? It sounds like a nice take, not everything has to be exactly like the book. And, Anne did have a sense of humour about the persons around her, she just didn't show it. I guess the problem here is that there is a very faithful adaption of P&P and several at least halfway faithful adaptations of Emma, but not a single one of Persuasion.

It warms the cockles of my heart to see how Austen lovers have risen as one and condemned this monstrosity.

@Shaezilla101

Жыл бұрын

It looks well produced with a good cast, but the whole feel does not fit the story at all. It seems the producers were just keeping up with our times, which detracts from the whole feeling of reading a Jane Austen novel - I want to be transported back in time. I’ll give it a shot, but I’m not expecting much.

@maryhamric

Жыл бұрын

@@Shaezilla101 I wish I could thumbs up this comment a zillion times. I want to be transported back in time as well, so I do want things in an Austen adaptation to be as accurate as possible with a tinge of relatability to make it understandable today. Don't bother to dress in Regency times if you are going to make this a modern take. Just make a modern Persuasion set in the present day and save us all the grief.

@somesuchx8912

Жыл бұрын

@@Shaezilla101 If you want to be transported back in time, you could watch the 2007 adaptation by ITV. It doesn't have to be remade.

@samm5625

Жыл бұрын

Never underestimate the power of Austen fans we are loyal to that which should be preserved. There is no integrity to this.

@Shaezilla101

Жыл бұрын

@@somesuchx8912 I didn't know there was a 2007, I only ever see the older one. I will give that a look-see!

Why on earth they try to modernize dialogue to appeal the audience when the real reason we want to watch period dramas is for things like: "you have bewitched me body and soul"

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

Has anyone written a better love letter than Wentworth's to Anne Elliot? The film establishment has no idea what it's ruining. Makes you ask whether they read the book they're butchering.

WE DON’T WANT THIS! We don’t want a cheap chuckle at the expense of character! We want the yearning, dramatic, heart stopping romances from our childhood!

@Andrea-jg1df

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! Exactly my point!!!

@Selkie7

Жыл бұрын

I want it!!! You don't speak for everyone

@Alda1821

Жыл бұрын

I fell in love with this movie! AMAZING!

@icv14

Жыл бұрын

YOU don’t want it, don’t speak for everyone

@maries.1741

11 ай бұрын

Most of us DON'T WANT THIS!!! If you do, you never read the book.

Anne’s strength is her quiet, consistency. She is intelligent and thoughtful. Altering her character for modern sensibilities is insulting not only to Austin’s character but to modern audiences. There are many “Anne’s” in this world they and deserve to be valued for who they are and the enrichment they bring to all. Persuasion is my favorite of Austen’s novel. Unfortunately this looks to be another instance of the “title and names are unchanged but the characters are missing.” Looks like another Mansfield Park.

@janinedion5047

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the correction. Much appreciated.

@Jenniphwoar

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Well said. Thank you

@kelliepauley4334

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you - my sentiments exactly

@AndSendMe

2 жыл бұрын

Beautifully put. What a relief to find that someone else has already said what needed to be said.

@8Lovelee

2 жыл бұрын

Persuasion is my favorite as well and the only way to experience the real Anne is to read the book. Everything else is an interpretation. She left us with so few pieces of her work, so when it comes to Austen, my opinion will always be the more interpretations, the better.

This book was important because it represented the quieter introverted girls who had there own things to offer

@meme-bu8qu

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@chefb2you

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!

@jashajain911

Жыл бұрын

Book name?

@AA-oe2ut

Жыл бұрын

@@jashajain911 persuasion by Jane Austen

@snape1596

Жыл бұрын

what is the piano music in the end?

Well, this has nothing in common with the real Anne from the books. She was a great female character - gentle, but strong in her own way. She was uncertain and made mistake when she was 19, but instead of making it worse by marrying someone else without love, she stayed faithful to her feelings, built strength of character and became the person everyone relies on. She was the quiet power center for her family and friends, never complaining and always ready to give snd help. And in the end these were the qualities that Wentworth recognized. Strength of character and intelligence have many aspects - no need to be a funny and sassy at all costs.

Lesson for Netflix: don't mess with the Jane Austen's fandom 😂

The cinematography is stunning, but they've really done a number on Anne. She's not so flirty an audacious. Poor girl spends most of the book yearning, flitting between agony and hope, and quietly observing everyone. She's sad and faded away since she let the love of her life go eight years ago.

@mnm9492

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I'm watching it now and I can't believe what they did to her character. One of the things I love about her character is her transformation from sad dul, to glowing by the time she reaches Bath. You can feel her longing, regret at letting herself be persuaded to leave captain Wentworth. You don't feel that pain with this character. She's cheery from the get go.

@DangerousParent

Жыл бұрын

If he was as bored being in a relationship with her as I was in watching this film I understand why he left her🥱 😴

@Ambereigh

Жыл бұрын

@@mnm9492 what. She’s sad from jump And continues to be so.

To all period dramas: stop taking Bridgerton as inspiration, especially in the humor. Jane Austen's original language was filled with subtle wit; the jokes here are so painfully obvious and unfunny. Stop modernizing everything. The beauty of Austen lies in the past.

@littlesofiaishere

Жыл бұрын

Jealous much

@Sentientmatter8

11 ай бұрын

​@@littlesofiaisherefairly accurate but they are taking more from fleabag than Bridgerton.

@aliensexbeat

10 ай бұрын

I hate humor

@Flarkit

10 ай бұрын

Well people find different things funny we won’t laugh at the same jokes !! So if you didn’t like it just don’t watch it !! Go read the book

@sophiah.76

10 ай бұрын

@@Flarkit Gladly. I realize that someone such as yourself probably thought that Persuasion was the fourth Fifty Shades of Grey movie, but pray don't assume your troglodytic ignorance to be true of everyone. Fix your grammar and learn how to read before trying to develop any semblance of literary understanding and appreciation. Baby steps, dear.

Netflix butchered Anne Elliot for me. Anne Elliot is most unique introvert character. And this is not Austen's Miss Elliott. So much disappointed for ruining a beautiful character.

@johansilva4450

Жыл бұрын

As Netflix always does...

Who ever directed and wrote this movie didn't understand the two most important characters. Also the whole point of the story is the uncertaintly of how Captain Wentworth is feeling. This movie left no mystery at all, his feelings are written all over his face.

This is horrifying. The fleabag style camera looks, Dakota looking beautiful with make up, the way that you can't tell that she has spent the last 8 years miserable and sad and downtrodden while her family treated her as a maid. The longing she and Captain Wentworth had for eachother. Everything that made Persuasion is missing. The 1995 movie version is so good.

@sandeesandwich2180

2 жыл бұрын

The 1995 Persuasion is the best Austen adaptation of any of her books, I think.

@meb1879

2 жыл бұрын

@@sandeesandwich2180 I respectfully dispute that assertion and would argue that the 2007 BBC adaptation with Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-Jones is the best adaptation to date. The 1995 version was severely lacking, especially in the chemistry between the main characters - there simply was none - despite a young Ciarán Hinds as Wentworth. The chemistry between Hawkins and Penry-Jones was palpable in every scene they shared, and their sorrow and heartache unmistakably evident in every look, movement, their speech and countenance.

@SisterJanet

2 жыл бұрын

@@sandeesandwich2180 Agree. It's the most authentic and naturalistic also. The kiss is so romantic.

@justanothergoogler6436

2 жыл бұрын

Johnson looks like a time traveller. Wrong in every way.

@ak8990

2 жыл бұрын

@@meb1879 Honestly having watched the 1995 version like a million times, I feel that the Amanda Root and Ciaran Hinds do have chemistry. Its more in the subtle looks they give each other. I feel Anne's pain when she looks at Frederick after coming back from the war, confronted with what she has lost and probably will never have again, trying to resolve herself to life as she knows it now. When Frederick gets upset at the opera (by the way, isn't that the most beautiful opera music you have ever heard?), I really feel his underlying passion towards her and jealously towards William Elliot and Anne. I'm not putting down the 2007 version at all, but in my opinion these two actors really captured the essence of their characters.

Nahh how could anyone replace the original beautiful words with “we’re worse than exes, we’re friends” and still sleep soundly at night 🥴 Jane’s rolling in her grave 😩

@TheMeesa

2 жыл бұрын

what were the original words?

@julia_btfl

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMeesa "Now they were as strangers; worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted." How could they call this appalling movie an adaptation? Poor Jane Austen, how could she rest in peace with all the things these people are doing

@DPDisciple

2 жыл бұрын

@@julia_btfl maybe she can rest in peace because the next life is more about who created her than what she created here.

@victoriawalden902

2 жыл бұрын

One of the main points of the novel is that they are not even friends. They act like people who met briefly long ago and now only talk to each other because they socialise with the same people.

@bellepierre24

2 жыл бұрын

I think she is smiling that her story set in the Recency Era of England resonates with people globally in the 21st century. As a writer and an undercover cultural anthropologist she would accept that like social norms, language also evolves. Hence some changes were made by contemporizing the cast and the words, but the plot is no less the same.

Sadly, this is a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad adaptation. I wonder if the writers ever actually read Persuasion before because they completely misunderstood who Anne Elliot is and have turned her character into Bridget Jones. Completely ridiculous!

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

When you have to ask whether the director actually read the book, you know ow bad it's gotten in the film establishment.

Thank you to everybody who is in the same boat as me. They butchered our girl. This should say LOOSELY based on the book because I feel like the only things in common they have are the names of the characters. I’m so bummed that they felt the need to change it up soooo much. It was nice to see diversity in the cast, but that’s the only compliment I can pay this trailer.

@suepem

Жыл бұрын

It should say loosely based on the times never mind the book.

@patriciamay6396

Жыл бұрын

The weird thing about diversity is, if they did a movie about Japan in the 1800s they wouldn’t just throw random white people in there. If they did a movie about Africa in the 1800s, they wouldn’t throw random Asian or white people in there. It’s stupid to just put diversity into Jane Austen just to be politically correct.

@michellepenguin1

Жыл бұрын

@@patriciamay6396 lol this was not a period piece. it was a terrible austen adaptation so it truly did not matter who the characters were played by. nothing about political correctness here. and it does go the other way all the time as you have described.

"We're worse than exes: we're friends." Jane Austen's timelessly elegant prose and subtle social satire at its very best. FFS

@Pancakespls

Жыл бұрын

I gagged. This is so disappointing 😞

@daydreamer054

Жыл бұрын

That was so cringey and not of the time period. I can only imagine that Jane Austen would be rolling in her grave at that line, let alone what Netflix has done to her beautiful work just to make a buck.

@daydreamer054

Жыл бұрын

@viiont eooiy I think the Masterpiece Theatre adaptation also had her character break the fourth wall but they did it in a way for the audience to see Anne's true emotions and I don't think she ever spoke directly, it was just staring into the camera.

@beatrizbaia5230

Жыл бұрын

It's a modern adaptation. the director said that all the time. stop being boring, because in the cinema everything is allowed because of art. I liked the new adaptation.

@Pancakespls

Жыл бұрын

@@beatrizbaia5230 "Modern Adaption" is ironic. The director should have made a Persuasion in the "modern" era then, and not kept it in the Regency period...and then try to modernize the early 1800s, it comes off as a cash grab

I read ALL of Jane Austen’s works and Persuasion is my absolute favourite. I am so excited but I must say this feels like a comedy a little too much. I hope it’s toned down in the movie. The book has a very nostalgic and introspective feel, and the characters were both heavily emotionally impacted by their painful separation years before (I’d say they are almost haunted by it). In the book you can really perceive his resentment and her sadness. She deeply regrets the past and continually wishes she could change it. I would have expected this kind of vibe from a Northanger Abbey’s adaptation (which was written as an actual satire of gothic novels), not a Persuasion one

@ladyvader2648

2 жыл бұрын

This ^^^^^^

@zeearchers720

2 жыл бұрын

The version with Ciaran Hinds as Wentworth is sublime.

@EVGMoviemaker

2 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly!

@kenneacorreia9191

2 жыл бұрын

Yeeesh

@sarahcox4292

2 жыл бұрын

This would be such a good idea! They could definitely remake Northanger Abbey in this tone!

I watched this yesterday evening and I've been SCREAMING all along. They butchered the story in a horrifying way, disrespecting each and every character, but mostly our dear Anne Eliott. They made her an alcoholic ffs !!! You wanna make Bridgerton shit, go write your own Bridgerton shit but leave Austen's work at peace. I am so angry right now. How could anyone jump into this shitshow is beyond me. Has anyone seen the series Sanditon ? It was made with utter respect to Jane Austen's phylosophy and work. The actors are amazing, the costumes, everything. It is remarkable and was made by true Austen lovers. The person who wrote this version of Persuasion could really learn from it. The only thing worth saving in this version of Persuasion is THE FREAKING RABBIT, that says a lot about the whole mess.

@NOURA1556

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t read the novel but I think I will now I couldn’t keep watch the movie and yes I watched sadniton and you’re right it was amazing I enjoyed every episode

@FLeigh12

Жыл бұрын

ATROCIOUS CASTING TO PUT THIS 50-Shades of Grey ''individual'' in the lead role who simply just cannot f****** ACT.!!!

@zanetapenny8388

Жыл бұрын

I love Sanditon. Even though I consider myself an Austen fan I didn't know it was her work before I started watching the show. While I was watching the very first episode I thought, this feels like an Austen novel, could it be? So I paused the episode and googled it and confirmed it was. That's how good a job they did of staying true to Austen's style of storytelling. I could tell it was based on her works from half an episode without prior knowledge that it was.

@akarriyue7999

Жыл бұрын

it's one of the most awful romcoms/romances ive seen in years. netflix really butchered the story

I'll say one good thing as praise to this movie: It made me want to read the book again so that's what I'm gonna do.

Persuasion is a quiet, intense novel about desperately wishing you could go back and fix the worst mistake of your life. It's meant to be overflowing with longing. It's a slow-build that turns into a pressure cooker as a plain, soft-spoken mouse of a woman tries to wrangle the courage to stand up for herself and what she wants despite enormous pressure from others. It should be moody and aesthetic and this...this is not the tone. They clearly wanted to turn Persuasion into the next Emma, but Emma and Anne have zero in common in the books, and the lessons they have to learn are completely opposite. I don't recognize Anne in this portrayal at all. Did these people even read the novel? I was so excited when I heard about this, but this looks like they don't understand the spirit of the novel or the heroine at all. Hopefully it's just a bad trailer, but this is disappointing.

@BeGo127

2 жыл бұрын

Miriam you just described what I felt seeing the trailer. They changed the tone too much. It just doesn't feel like the same character!

@huy3519

2 жыл бұрын

They surely didn't understand! The Fleabag-like breaking of 4th wall is trying hard and unnecessary. Lastly, Dakota's accent is awful!!!!

@carolineblueskies

2 жыл бұрын

Perfectly said! Exactly how I felt after watching.

@ktrayn78

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly! Anne was brainwashed by her narcissistic family into feeling like her purpose was to be invisible and accommodating. But the "Flea-bag" style monologues make her seem like just a more charming kind of narcissist. Bummer!

@jennekestill8719

2 жыл бұрын

bravo

Favorite line from the book: "Now they were as strangers; nay, worse than strangers, for they could never become acquainted again"

@CandyAndromeda

2 жыл бұрын

No, they are worse than exes; they are friends! Friends are underrated.

@ellie-tk4jy

2 жыл бұрын

So they butchered the line?

@ky4864

2 жыл бұрын

@@ellie-tk4jy completely. Especially cause the term “exes” didn’t exist in the regency era. 🙄🙄🙄

@snape1596

Жыл бұрын

what is the piano music in the end?

@dtrahn1218

Жыл бұрын

@@ellie-tk4jy They not only butchered the line, but they lost the quiet resolve and despair it was meant to convey.

They’ve taken a classic and absolutely crapped all over it. Jane Austen would be appalled.

Show me you didn't read Persuasion without telling me you've never read it

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

LOL

being a jane austen fan, i read Persuasion quite recently and it's her best work in my opinion. just exquisite. please let this honor the novel ( wow look at us being collectively enraged. Yet, i won’t not watch it. will I be more enraged after? probably…)

@thehound9638

2 жыл бұрын

The trailer suggests they won't be honouring the novel! A lot of box tickers in it!

@MysteryMan5968

2 жыл бұрын

@@thehound9638 hmmm sounds not so great but novel or movie everything has its merits.

@shiprabhargavamudgal

2 жыл бұрын

@@thehound9638 agree with you entirely. It seems so far off from the novel. It doesn’t capture the Jane Austen heroine’s essence at all. From the trailer it seems no one can persuade the heroine other than herself

@raniaye

2 жыл бұрын

The movie looks like a far cry from the book...Anne's gentle, sad, introverted, and introspective spirit seems to have been replaced with something closer to Elizabeth Bennet's one and this Wentworth seems to wear his emotions much more openly (and with far less resentment) than book Wentworth-- that already strips the text from its strongest components

@abigailburghelea4653

2 жыл бұрын

It just can't.. There's nothing about that Jane Austen atmosphere in this trailer, they just took the plot and messed everything up. I can't imagine a true Jane Austen fan actually agreeing that this is an accurate version..

Jane Austen, in one of her personal letters, spoke of Anne Elliot as “too good for me”. Persuasion was written in the autumn of Austen’s life, at the height of her prowess as an author, featuring arguably her best heroine: long-suffering, consistent, gracious Anne. Anne who lives a passionate and beautiful INWARD life, whose perception pierces through everyone’s pretensions, yet has compassion for everybody’s faults, whose sense of duty and forbearance are so admirable. Netflix just vomited over all of that to cash in with this unimaginative, careless, and pitiful excuse of an adaptation. They could not have done a worse job if they had hated Austen and her final completed novel. They took beautiful Anne and reduced her to a “pick me” girl, a “Not Like Other Girls” girl. 🙄

@julia_btfl

2 жыл бұрын

I'm hopelessly depressed about this thing called "an adaptation''

@grisg.4121

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn’t agree more. I’m currently listening to Persuasion for the - times and just regurgitated a bit what I just had for lunch. Ghastly.

@Jack_-jy2dr

2 жыл бұрын

@@julia_btfl same :’( I think it says something about how close to sublime Persuasion as a novel is that all its readers feel the offence of this “adaptation” so keenly. They treated the masterpiece so poorly. And so condescending to anyone who hasn’t read the book. Like we don’t already have enough “BoSs BaBe” heroines in film and literature and would appreciate the breath of fresh air that is Anne Elliot, whose strength is in her softness.

@Jack_-jy2dr

2 жыл бұрын

@@grisg.4121 ghastly indeed! Made me feel sick when I first saw the trailer too.

@carinaconte8723

2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more! This is an "adaptation" for gen Z and so called inclusivness, a little bit of This and that thrown in to make it more digestible for the masses.

Not every movie needs pop culture references that will age like milk to future audiences. Why can't we just have historically accurate period dramas? It feels like they are trying to ride off of the success of Fleabag with the fourth wall breaks. If they want to add modern elements they should do it right like Knights Tale did or not do it at all lol.

Although i have never read the book, what i loved about the 2007 ITV version, featuring the brilliant Sally Hawkins, is the intensity of pain Anne goes through. So raw and so real. We feel her anguish and love her all the more for it. This new film seems to create the wrong tone for my favourite Jane Austen novel

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

Why can't they just leave these books alone? Why the constant lack of respect for history?

@CyclingM1867

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I love this version.

@winstonsmith7801

Жыл бұрын

@@Musicienne-DAB1995 Leftists only know how to destroy culture and cultural Icons. Expect it to continue when they occupy all the institutions.

@lindacartwright5100

Жыл бұрын

The 2007 version was awesome. Why have they made Anne like Brigitte Jones?

@user-gq3ce3sk3z

Жыл бұрын

The best version of all movies!!

I'm not convinced yet. I feel like Dakota is more playing Elizabeth or Emma than Anne. Anne is more reserved, mature and calm. I don't get the vibes of the novel yet. I feel they are trying to give it the same vibes as the last movie Emma, but I'm not sure it will work for Persuasion.

@aquablushgirl

2 жыл бұрын

This is going to be shockingly bad. All the smirks to camera etc? This is not Anne at all.

@sarawithoutanH

2 жыл бұрын

Omg I was searching the comments for someone else who thought this. THANK YOU.

@Taskeeenkhan

2 жыл бұрын

Agree

@fb1880

2 жыл бұрын

You re so right. Its not Anne, not at all

@toomessy

2 жыл бұрын

Plus, Dakota is a horrible actor. You're telling me they didn't have anyone else to take the role?

i love how book readers are ripping this apart, we need more of this energy, those big film companies have done enough damage to our beloved culture

@lovetolovefairytales

2 жыл бұрын

Yes!!!!

@rodriguezkuba

2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY 🙌🏼

@annisaoctariaaminy2964

2 жыл бұрын

even as the non-book reader I know this movie is a terrible idea

@cathy1703

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! So happy to see all these comments.

@valentinamihalciuc

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!!!

This is a parody, not a film about Anne of Jane Austen

They changed the letter. I am feeling immense outrage. Please excuse me while I go scream into my pillow.

When I heard there would be an adaptation of Persuasion, I was pretty excited. Watching this, though, I’m… wary. Feels too much like they took comedy vibes from Bridgerton and the 2020 Emma, which I think are inappropriate for the tone of the novel Persuasion, which was more introspective and serious. Will still give it a chance, but I’m not too hopeful

@Rosula_D

2 жыл бұрын

You nailed it! This is totally trying to go for the quirky comedy from the 2020 Emma. But those are two very different stories, from two very different characters. So it feels very off imo.

@jcurry1125

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. From the trailer, this seems much too farcical to be true to the book.

@dnahubs

2 жыл бұрын

I'm with you on this. I think they've taken too many liberties with the story.

@itssarah3438

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and I hate this, they're making experimental movies from Jane Austen and I'm not here for it 😳

@gwenivercall

2 жыл бұрын

Same here. Also, at least Emma 2020 got the costumes and the dialogue right - most of the characters here I'm just WHAT ARE YOU WEARING? WHERE'S YOUR BONNET? Ugh.

“We’re worse than exes… we’re friends.” I’m sure this will be a cute story, but it is mostly certainly not Jane Austen.

@antemiuenteri

2 жыл бұрын

imagine gatekeeping the work of a woman who died like 200 years ago, just imagine....

@yanoryam

2 жыл бұрын

@@antemiuenteri it's not gatekeeping, they're expressing dissatisfaction in the poor choice of writing in the script. all adaptions modernize the writing from JA's novels but the inclusion of the word ex takes you out of zone of suspension of disbelief. People are allowed their opinions, don't go throwing around buzzwords that don't even fit the situation. the line was irksome to a lot of people not just one.

@hannahwebster5606

2 жыл бұрын

I cringed so much at that line

@kimarkel

2 жыл бұрын

Cringy

@jackierosas9593

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that line makes me think they should’ve just made this a modern retelling. Though from the trailer this Anne doesn’t really seem like the Anne from the novel or other adaptations, she seems more like Lizzie Bennet, as others have noted.

I ADORE 2007 BBC adaptation with Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-Jones.

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

Only seen it once, but I really enjoyed it.

It satisfies and relieves my poor heart quite a lot, seeing all the austen lovers unite as once to acknowledge what a monstrosity this film is.

WHY?! WHY people want so bad to destroy Jane’s masterpiece? Couldn’t Netflix made movie with similar storyline and then turned it into comedy?? Persuasion is definitely the most realistic story that Jane wrote and you made a joke of it. If someone wants to see good Persuasion movie, I recommend the adaptation from *1995* year. That one is THE BEST- but also please read the book!👍🏽

@beatrizbecker3728

2 жыл бұрын

1995 version is the best

@Greenwillow

2 жыл бұрын

With the Bath City Marathon sprint at the end🤔

@fish-fingers_and_custard7685

2 жыл бұрын

@@Greenwillow bath city marathon 🤣 🤣

@julia_btfl

2 жыл бұрын

The 2007 adaptation does cut out a lot of scenes but I would say it captures the essence of the original book more accurately than the 1995 version

@HelenBeeee

2 жыл бұрын

It just could have been a period romance in its own right it didn’t have to be a stain on a Jane Austen classic

How to change a literary masterpiece in to a woke chicklit. Netflix can.

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

Or, how to pretend that you're cleverer than the original author.

@flakmag

Жыл бұрын

@Monique S Nailed it! 🔨

Pride and Prejudice: "You have bewitched me body and soul.” Netflix: "See it's your booty, that's drivin' me crazy"

@MsRose00

Жыл бұрын

☠️☠️☠️☠️

@maryhamric

Жыл бұрын

Great take. Although Austen never wrote the "bewitched". It did fit the tone of the novel at least!

@blauespony1013

Жыл бұрын

I did not like the "bewitched" line, but I could accept it for modern audiences sake. I won't say the same for Persuasion (at least according to this trailer).

@hannahlee152

Жыл бұрын

😂 HA HA! TRUTH! That’s why I canceled my subscription

@monharris28

Жыл бұрын

lmao

I think they got the mood wrong. Persuassion it’s about longing about what Anne thought was lost when she left Wentworth. I’ve read Austen and Persuassion remains her most introspective work, the less comedic one, and the most critical of all in terms how society and class can separate people apart.

@iorethofgondor

2 жыл бұрын

Amen

When you are so much into period movies, but you watch this and you remain speechless. I was hoping for something like Pride and Prejudice, that type of acting, music, emotions...this seems like a parody. Awful😑

@George.0092

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. I just watched the 2007 version and it is by far mucho better than this parody.

@florinacarmen7608

Жыл бұрын

@@George.0092 I know, right? I agree with you.

Jane Austen would probably have something ruthlessly ironic to say about this horror

please don't let this be a comedy, please don't let this be a comedy, please don't let this be a comedy, please this is the best Jane Austen book, please keep it as it is, please please please

@safasdiaries

2 жыл бұрын

I think it is going to be a comedy/parody 😭😭

@EmilyJJaynes

2 жыл бұрын

There's a Vogue article about this adaptation.....all it seemed like they wanted to talk about is how quirky and silly this movie is going to be...NOOOOO 😭😭😭

@MeliMant

2 жыл бұрын

@@EmilyJJaynes I WILL CRY

@Victoriacariad

2 жыл бұрын

They're not going to keep it as it is because they have no creative integrity or world-building. Netflix don't care about Jane Austen, they're just using her work as a platform to push "THE MESSAGE"...

@rayyan8920

2 жыл бұрын

@@MeliMant i missed the part where that's my problem

Dakota's voice here is like a calming balm to the soul.

@serenityq26

2 жыл бұрын

its really not

@trinaq

2 жыл бұрын

Seconded, I instantly feel more relaxed just hearing Dakota's calming voice.

@homeland1128

2 жыл бұрын

*Always Has Been*

@homeland1128

2 жыл бұрын

@@serenityq26 140+2 people and counting said otherwise. also ratio.

@susanmema7738

2 жыл бұрын

Ah you have just discover of WHY WE LOVE JANE AUSTIN SO MUCH

Is Netflix really confused why they're down hundreds of thousands of subscribers when the quality is like this? What can you really expect when quality suffers like this?

I am crying while watching this bro. They basically changed anne whole character

When hearing Dakota’s voice, it’s like listening to a good ASMR

@ErenTheWarcriminal

2 жыл бұрын

With these accents it’s not that hard

@joker6-6

2 жыл бұрын

@@ErenTheWarcriminal 🥱

@trinaq

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, her voice is so soothing and relaxing to listen to, making her a perfect fit for a period piece.

@serenityq26

2 жыл бұрын

no. its torture

@peterparker9954

2 жыл бұрын

Asmr ?

Persuasion is one of Austen's best. This version seems to lose all of the tension from the story, by removing the social restraints that held Dakota Johnson's character back and instead making her seem too independent and world-wise to be persuaded by anyone. So there's no arc for this version of the character to follow, it's just a drawn out will-they-won't-they connecting the dots along a rom-com plot path - at least by the feel of the trailer. The book uses the love story to critique social issues of the time, especially the limitations on a woman's ability to choose anything for herself, which makes the ending uncertain until the lead character alters her previous pattern and breaks away from social pressures to choose the path she prefers but that society forbids for shallow and arbitrarily sexist reasons. It's satisfying not just because she gets her love, but because she's brave, she beats the odds stacked against her, and she puts society in its place instead. Otherwise, this version looks very pretty and Dakota is charming, as usual.

@sarahcox4292

2 жыл бұрын

This exactly! I wrote elsewhere in the comments that presenting Anne as fiestier doesn't work for this reason. Lizzie Bennett's growth was to not jump so quickly to assumptions or be prejudiced against people based on minimal interaction. This is why Wickham is able to hoodwink her, even though there are hints in the text that he is not being honest from the jump. Conversely Anne Elliot is more mature and wise, her instincts are sound and based on careful observation (she refuses to accept Mr Elliott's proposal, even though it would solve loads of her problems and everyone she loves is saying "Bitch, you better marry that guy!" because she knows something doesn't add up about him*). Her arc is the opposite of Lizzie's in that she need to learn to trust herself, stand up for herself and put herself first for once. If you combine the best traits of both characters, as this trailer seems to show, Lizzie's wit and forthrightness, Anne's perceptiveness and generosity.... That's a perfect person! There's no nuance or room for growth! *This is also why Persuasion does not work as a love triangle. Mr Elliot is up to no good and Anne never trusts him. If you make Anne more gullible you remove a key aspect of her character, but that's another issue

@kgal1298

2 жыл бұрын

Well the trailer makes it seem like that for sure. I'll clearly watch it since I love Jane Austen, but this almost feels like maybe Netflix had their hands too far into it. It'll be interesting to see them take on Austen because the last adaption of Emma, which got theatre release was really enjoyable. I wonder if they picked this project because of Bridgerton, but at the same time Bridgerton can barely be compared to Austen or her works even if they set them both in the regency era.

@madisonestes9381

2 жыл бұрын

@@sarahcox4292 I like your analysis of Lizzie and Anne but I don't think we know for sure that Anne is more guillable in this adaptation based on this trailer. To me, she seems charmed by him but still cautious, as if she knows she must be careful. I am keeping an open mind until I see it.

@sarahcox4292

2 жыл бұрын

@@madisonestes9381 I agree with you there. I will definitely be watching so hopefully that is a misinterpretation on my part.

@monbebeme6835

2 жыл бұрын

The tension... The slow burn was everything... Favorite Jane Austen novel

Whoever wrote the script for this read the sparknotes version written by the teacher to test the student if they read the book. My wife is in tears over this!

@jeanettem1746

Жыл бұрын

It’s awful

I watched it and if you love Jane Austen do her honor and don’t watch this. I can’t believe they had the courage to put this out.

@lovetolovefairytales

Жыл бұрын

They had no shame. Stupid people and bad writers always think they are brilliant and modern.

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

'Courage'? More like the audacity.

No and no. Persuasion is my favorite of Jane Austen's books because it had a gravitas the previous books lacked. Anne does not have hunks of jam on her face and has the chamber pot fall on her. Anne is dignified, she is strong for everyone else. Not everything needs to be Bridgerton, for the love of God.

@darcyroycetherapeuticartin9361

2 жыл бұрын

I don't like Bridgerton.

@shoujofanatic

2 жыл бұрын

They ruined Bridgerton with season 2, now it's time to ruin Pursuasion too 😮‍💨

@manasvisingh2101

Жыл бұрын

@@shoujofanatic season 2 > season 1

@cindyirizarry5767

Жыл бұрын

I love Bridgerton but I get why people are mad at this adaptation

@sakuranovaryan9261

Жыл бұрын

Exactly this was giving so much bridgerton haha

wasn't Anne supposed to be a bit insecure and reserved in the time leading up to and then seeing Wentworth again? Dakota comes of as too confident and wallowing, but not the quiet reserved Anne I'm thinking she should be. I prefer the Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Roote version, even if people think they look too old, the acting is a lot more subtle and you can feel the emotion better

@aeolia80

2 жыл бұрын

Why the hell is her hair down!!?!!!!!! Her character is like 27 or something, not 12, their hair was never down even at home after like the age of 18, only maybe right before bed

@aeolia80

2 жыл бұрын

did they just stick her in a beret like it was 1900!?!!!, I live in France, and NO ONE wears a beret except weird tourists, old men, and people that live in Marseille or in the Basque region, hahahhaha, and while the beret has an old history, I highly doubt an English woman in like 1818 would've been wearing it

@aeolia80

2 жыл бұрын

Did the writers have her use the word "ex", hahahahhahahahhaahhahahahahhahaha, I know they are trying to piggyback off the success of Bridgerton, but Bridgerton is legit fantasy, while the work of Jane Austen even though fiction is definitely not. I mean, I understand why they did it thinking the language of Austen might be too complicated for speakers in our generation, but nah, man, we can still understand it, especially presented in context And don't mention the blind casting, I have absolutely no problem with that, I'm only mentioning it in case people think I have a problem with it, I definitely don't have a problem with blind casting

@theobuniel9643

2 жыл бұрын

@@aeolia80 Thanks for the more critical reaction. Good to hear a differing POV, and from a book reader at that. And also, yeah, I too was slightly thrown off when they used the word "exes", I always felt like that was modern language, not something you'd hear from someone in the early 1800s.

@thorne1239

2 жыл бұрын

@@aeolia80 This was me watching the first season of Sanditon. MC has her hair down for most of the movie and she's supposed to be 'out' in society. A regency woman would never.

I thought the BBC 2007 version with Sally Hawkins was such a great representation that it would be darn near impossible to outdo it. And this didn't, not even close, Dakota Johnson fan or not.

Well, to say that Netflix, the director and Dakota, missed the plot completely....... would be AN UNDERSTATEMENT!😏

I really like Jane Austen's Persuasion and I really hope this trailer is deceiving because it almost seems like they have decided to mock the story, it's coming off more as a parody rather than a true adaptation BTW just watched it and my advice don't bother they completely butchered the characters and the dialogue. I don't understand how they can get everything do wrong even though it's all written down for them in a book.

@erikdaniels0n

2 жыл бұрын

It honestly reminds me a lot of Autumn DeWilde’s Emma adaptation, which I thought was delightful

@amyflowers2435

2 жыл бұрын

That’s how I feel. Like they’re trying to make It more in the style of Pride and Prejudice or Emma. Persuasion is more emotional and Anne is not Lizzie Bennet.

@XxMCRroxnonstopxX

2 жыл бұрын

@@erikdaniels0n Emma is supposed to be poking fun persuasion is supposed to have more of a serious tone.

@devangillard8730

2 жыл бұрын

yes my problem is Anne Elliot is a different kind of character than Emma and Lizzie Bennett and this trailer makes it look like Jane Austen only wrote one type of female character

@sarahmcdonough7713

2 жыл бұрын

To me it just seems like they dispensed with Anne and replaced her with Elizabeth tbh. Like if they were so desperate for a snarky, comedic, assertive heroine why bother adapting persuasion? Do p&p, Emma, or northanger abbey again. Or I could even live with like turning a marianne into this kind of character. But to do it to Anne is just like.. why? Why remove some of the most poignant elements of persuasion? I feel like if this is how Hollywood chooses interprets her in the 21st century, I’ll never see a tone-appropriate Anne Elliot or Fanny Price.

Persuasion is my favorite Jane Austen book. As much as I love Dakota, making Anne a carbon copy character of a modern woman rather than respecting her honest struggles and strengths during the historical moment the character lives in is actually a disservice to her ability. I would have loved to see Dakota portray Anne as she really is. It would have been phenomenal. Persuasion deserves better respect than this.

@mariendiaye6737

5 ай бұрын

I really love Dakota But i’m not quite sure she is a good actress enough to portray such a deep character. The other problem is that those new productions always try to make stories more Modern. That’s very sad. They did the same with Agatha Christie’s Poirot. A total 😢

It’s like Bridgeton and Fleabag had a child but not in a good way

Persuasion is my favorite Austen novel and I thoroughly disliked this movie. The cast and budget were clearly not lacking so this is truly a wasted opportunity to showcase a beautiful and timeless story.

This is not Austen's Persuasion. Anne was a really serious and timid character. This seems to be a "fanfic" of Persuasion than an adaptation. The problem is that is "sold" like the real thing, which is NOT when you completely change the main character personality

@davidedthinkin9679

2 жыл бұрын

Agree, doesn't seem to get the tone of its source material at all.

@poorang900

2 жыл бұрын

Yup my thoughts

@gemelwalters2942

2 жыл бұрын

Well it is an adaptation so it doesn't have to be 1 to 1. I guess it's just a matter of whether it's well received or not. Books are an entirely different format and perhaps they made certain choices because otherwise it would not hold the audiences attention. Time will tell

@JuliaGulia1684

2 жыл бұрын

There is a fine line between honoring the written word of Austen and trying to flow with the popular shows Bridgerton etc. I’m in no way an Austen purist, but I feel one can over popularize for the sake of revenue. I will watch this as it has always been one of my favorites🌺

@davidedthinkin9679

2 жыл бұрын

@@gemelwalters2942 Sure, it doesn't have to be a 1 to 1 (actually I think it never should)-but it should understand its source material and Persuasion is a very unique book compared to Austen's other novels, that deals a lot with regret, nostalgia and vanity. This just looks like Bridgerton.

What Persuasion deserves is a drama series. Even the past movies doesn’t bring out the best of this novel and it’s characters.

@maryhamric

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I think the best Austen adaptations are the ones which are a series. There's so many layers that condensing it to 2 hours max is impossible. See Emma 2020 for this one.

@noreenen2347

Жыл бұрын

i thought 1995 persuasion was almost perfect

@daydreamer054

Жыл бұрын

A mini-series would be great (if done right). There is so much to flesh out in the main characters during the engagement (I imagine a happy younger Anne and Wentworth) and then in the later years after the ending of the engagement and they meet again.

@katiePetsy

Жыл бұрын

There is a mini series with the actress from the shape of water as Anne. I thought it was really good

@marguerittetwinkle3624

Жыл бұрын

I think Persuasion 1995 was VERY good, in my opinion all characters there were perfect and the movie was faithful to the book to the most part.

There is no art, creativity and ingenuity anymore. The masterpieces have already been painted, written and composed. Now they destroy. A systematic breakdown of the human spirit.

This trailer made me so annoyed that I’m literally canceling my Netflix subscription. This is my favorite Jane Austen novel and they totally butchered it. This is everything Anne Elliott is not. Thanks Netflix!

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

'Persuasion' is my favourite Jane Austen novel too!

@streetchurchdc164

Жыл бұрын

Cuties did it for me. Netflix is over.

I’m totally shocked at this adaptation of Persuasion! Persuasion is my favorite novel by Jane Austen and that’s due to understanding Anne so well. She’s an introvert, who is shy and still has a longing for a lost love. This adaptation totally changes who Anne is and how Jane Austen wrote the character. I was so looking forward to a new Persuasion, but I won’t be watching this adaptation. So sad! 😓

@lovetolovefairytales

2 жыл бұрын

It's like this is the sister film to 1999 Mansfield Park. Even down to the quirk narrator in the trailer. People keep comparing it to 2020 Emma, but they forget EMMA was GOOD; the costumes were right and Anya had period appropriate hair and the soundtrack was all old hymns and sounded very 1800s... This is nothing like that, it's just Mansfield Park all over again. Are we this scared to have a quiet heroine? I want my book accurate Anne Elliot and Fanny Price, please, not more Elizabeth Bennet knock offs.

@maggiepie765

2 жыл бұрын

Persuasion is my fave Austen too and this trailer is such a let down. I won’t watch it. Periodt. I’ll rewatch the 2007 adaptation with Sally Hawkins and Rupert Penry-Jones. Now that’s my Anne and Capt. Wentworth.

@maggiepie765

2 жыл бұрын

@@lovetolovefairytales ooohh curious… have you seen the Mansfield Park 2007 adaptation with Billie Piper and Blake Ritson?

@lovetolovefairytales

2 жыл бұрын

@@maggiepie765 yes, that one actually is pretty good. I own the Blu-ray. Left a lot out, but it still tried to be the book and not its own thing. Also the little it did add was actually darling: the Fanny/Edmund kiss, the wedding waltz, Tom Bertram calling Fanny "the best girl alive"? Makes me melt like butter on a pancake.

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

@@lovetolovefairytales OK, thanks for the recommendation.

I wrote a fanfiction once where Anne Elliot was a relatively minor character on a magic flying ship whose only real role in the story was to get kidnapped alongside Fanny and Susan Price by evil warlock Henry Crawford and I still think my version was closer to actual Persuasion than this...

@s.s.6850

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@tracys169

2 жыл бұрын

I probably need your fanfic to cleanse my palate after I watch this version of Persuasion lol

@arthagia

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@marieb3525

2 жыл бұрын

Can I, please, read your fanfic? It sounds marvelous!!

@lovetolovefairytales

2 жыл бұрын

@@marieb3525 it's called "Those Prevailing Happy Stars" (my penname is Raphaela Crowley)

Sorry but she is not Anne Elliott, definitely not. It's another story in the same place, same era, similar support characters, but not Austen' Peruasion.

The only good thing is how forgettable it is..1995 film or even 2007 was absolutely my favorite!

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

The other good thing is that people will hopefully read the novel again, or for the first time.

What's next? A zany, slapstick, rom-com version of Romeo and Juliet? The power of Persuasion is not Anne being caught making fun of Wentworth while zanily not aware she has jam on her lip. It's about two people overwhelmed by the sadness and regret (on her part) and anger (initially, on his part, still bitter over her rejection of him) of being in the presence of someone you once loved, while also surrounded by self-absorbed idiots who don't even remember what you once meant to each other.

I adore the 2007 BBC movie version of Persuasion with Sally Hawkins. It's one of my mom's favorite movies and she made me watch it as a teen and I loved it. Sally truly captured the spirit of Anne Eliot.

@Jenniphwoar

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Love that adaptation it was a stunning portrayal

@jbirzer

2 жыл бұрын

My wife ended up frustrated by it because they screwed up the ending of the story. It was otherwise well acted.

@sandeesandwich2180

2 жыл бұрын

The 1995 version is much better! (The ending of the 2007 version is a travesty, and the casting atrocious.)

@TimeandMonotony

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't perfect, but it's definitely my favorite Persuasion adaptation so far. I don't know why so many people love the '95 version, it's one of the most boring movies I've ever seen, right up there with Jeremiah Johnson.

I have love jane Austen since a child...persuasion is one of her most important works. The character of Anne elliot is the epitome of grace and modesty.....wtf Netflix. I've never saud it before because there are so many excellent adaptations Sally Hawkins was a perfect Anne. But whatever this was...it was not Anne or Wentworth cutting and skipping key material it was an entirely different story badly acted...😪

@Musicienne-DAB1995

Жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed the Sally Hawkins one, and I think she had a great facal profile for Anne Elliot.

girl what? this is not Anne. also yes it is different but breaking the 4th wall is REALLY weird for me

I am an Austen fan, but have yet to read ‘Persuasion’. I am thoroughly pleased to see avid readers as myself who have read it, are NOT pleased with this adaptation based on this particular trailer. The thoughtful, sensible analyses in the comments section against this adaptation’s tone and mood have been a pleasure to read. Keep sounding the displeased alarm, fellow bibliophiles.

I'm so looking forward to the pining and another handsome hunk saying - "You pierce my soul. I am half agony, half hope. Tell me not that I am too late, that such precious feelings are gone for ever. I offer myself to you again with a heart even more your own than when you almost broke it, eight years and a half ago. Dare not say that man forgets sooner than woman, that his love has an earlier death. I have loved none but you. Unjust I may have been, weak and resentful I have been, but never inconstant." But this version seems to have made Anne quirky and adorable, but she is the most mature and calm of Austen's heroines. I guess they are going for the 2020 Emma version feel. This might be interesting and bring levity to an otherwise melancholy story.If they overdo the quirky ditzy thing it would take away from the deep love she had for Wentworth and the overall depth of her character. Anne is not Elizabeth Bennet, Persuasion is not an enemies to lovers story. It's a second chance, 8 years pining for your true love and all that. They are truly haunted by their long separation. She has such heart wrenching internal monologues about Friedrich in the book. I guess my rant is just saying I care about the book and I hope this movie doesn't make their love superficial.

@tsjohnson5

2 жыл бұрын

I'm swooning just reading that.

@SK28th

2 жыл бұрын

@@tsjohnson5 I squeal every time I read it!

@swetaghosh5231

2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️❤️

@emclaire7027

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly my thoughts. As a movie this might be fun but as an adaptation it looks terrible lol

@kikilantis6206

2 жыл бұрын

Yes this is what I felt too reg. 2020 Emma quirkiness. I love the Sally Hawkins version and I think this is going to be very different from that but I'm looking forward to it!

Now, instead, you can still find the 1995 masterpiece with Amanda Root and Ciarán Hinds. I love that version, give it a try :)

@Mytouk76us

Жыл бұрын

Yes !!! For me it's the best version.

Sure, if you want to take a time period and change it, write something like Bridgerton which is a fun watch and a good idea but please dont take a beloved like Austen and butcher it.

“Now, we’re worse than exes. We’re friends.” I’ll pass on this one.

Why would anyone do this?! Why is Anne being quirky and kind of flirty? Why would Anne make herself a funny element? Anne is a heroine to so many calm, intelligent, introverted, reflective and witty female personalities (which is so rare form of representation) and being one such personalities I am a bit disappointed with this version. This film makes me appreciate and love the novel and Anne (from the book) even more than before...

@natasjacosteris6872

Жыл бұрын

Yes the 1995 and 2007 movie versions do have the right tone. But this one doesn't

@snape1596

Жыл бұрын

what is the piano music in the end?

Agree that everyone involved in making this should be locked up for crimes against art and literature.

If you watch this as a random regency era inspired movie that is a Bridget Jones-esque rom com..you might enjoy it. But if you watch this expecting it to be anything like Jane Austen’s Persuasion, you will be very disappointed. I’m not sure what crazy person decided to botch the story this badly.

I usually love adaptations that do something new and interesting with the source material (I really enjoyed 'Fire Island' as a take on Pride and Prejudice'). But this really seems to miss what people love about Persuasion and turn Anne into a fiesty, Lizzie-Bennet-turned-up-to-11 character, instead of the somewhat ground down by her family, but still highly perceptive, intelligent and strong in her convictions character that so spoke to me. Perhaps the sadness of Anne, feeling left on the shelf at 27 and living her life for others, cannot translate to a modern audience directly because we rightly don't identify with being single as a failing anymore. But surely there was some way of changing the circumstances while staying true to the sadness and longing of the book without turning the story into a farce and Anne into a typical fiesty herione. Not really hopeful about this one based on the trailer alone... hopefully this is misrepresentative.

@BBB888B8B8

2 жыл бұрын

OMG YES. I DEFO FEEL THE SAME. IT'S LIKE THE TONE IS DIFFERENT

@yasminchowdhury3909

2 жыл бұрын

i agree

@johanna9071

2 жыл бұрын

You articulate my misgivings this trailer gave me. Anne is Not Lizzie, she can’t be. I am a Austen fan and will probably watch this but this Anne just doesn’t feel like Anne to me.

@mallorycarpinski1160

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. They could change the tone without changing the character so much. She's the center of the story, it's nor Persuasion if they change her. I hate when they change the story SO much that they're really just trying to profit off the author's/book's name by calling it so.

@milaguachala6047

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. Although Anne is a smart, beautiful, kind woman, there's this sense of feeling unworthy or how you described: being left in the shell that I don't quite feel being portrayed by Dakota (and I love Dakota). Let's hope that the movie prove us wrong.

I saw this trailer yesterday and was like... no. No no no no no no no.... they did NOT try to turn my favorite of Jane Austen's novels into the Regency version of Fleabag. Persuasion is not a rom-com, it's a poignant story of regret, maturity, and second chances. Definitely giving this a miss and rewatching the movie with Ciaran Hinds and Amanda Root ASAP.

@queenofidlis

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the recommendation. 'Persuasion' is my favourite Jane Austen novel and the tone of this trailer is all WRONG.

@lizard9375

Жыл бұрын

So funny you mentioned that. It DID remind me of Fleabag. So strange.

Yeah, this dude is no Rupert Penry-Jones

Austen's writing can be modernised . It's been done successfully because the essential character traits remain the same. Here the script has changed Anne Elliot almost beyond recognition rendering what is unsaid said and emotions expressed in a manner that undermine the central conceit of the original.

Looks good but I think a considerable deviation from the book. Dakota here seems more like a Lizzie Bennet. The Anne in the book is a lot more of an introvert and considerably less self assured.

First off, I'll come out and say it. I enjoyed the Bridgerton series. However, not every period piece needs to be modelled after it. Certainly not Jane Austen! Jane Austen's works are a blend of romance and strong, bold characters emerging amidst societal restrictions. Perhaps the actual movie will reflect this, but the trailer does not give me much hope of that. I'm feeling quite let down and I haven't even watched the movie yet :-(

@dallasjones8185

2 жыл бұрын

Agree - must all movies now be so WOKE and politically correct, while sacrificing accuracy ?

@yamony.4060

2 жыл бұрын

Yes exactly! Bridgerton works so well because it was unique and one of its kind when it came out. Every other period drama that copies bridgerton is just not going to be very successful.

@redstar7292

2 жыл бұрын

Bridgerton is fantasy type world, and it's by a modern day author. But Austen wrote during the Georgian era, the CB Casting doesn't work very well, it detracts from the plot and makes it unbelievable. Unless they want to take the universal themes of Austen books, and set them in modern times, where they're are less limitations.

@Victoriacariad

2 жыл бұрын

Bridgerton worked because it was a fantasy. I have no idea why they're cutting and pasting it onto Jane Austen. Having black/bi racial/Asian people as aristocrats in regency England immediately rips the viewer out of the world Netflix are supposed to be building.

@briantbmoth6472

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed we don’t need all period pieces to fit into the 2022 style.

I've read Persuasion several times and I can't recall quite this depiction of Anne or Wentworth for that matter. This should be titled "Loosely Based on Jane Austen's Persuasion" or "Jane Austen's Persuasion in a Parallel Universe". It looks entertaining, but it's no Persuasion.

One word: GROTESQUE. I watched the movie last night and I was utterly disappointed by the end ... Jane Austen would have not approved.😳 WHY ?! Just WHY?!?!?!. Not to mention they made Anne into a drunken spinster 🙄

@tom4150

Жыл бұрын

Wino lol

Little correction: Timeless stories. All Jane Austen's work is a masterpiece.

@anyaaninaa460

2 жыл бұрын

Agreeeeeee

@ccbsgful

2 жыл бұрын

Asten's work is a timeless masterpiece, this is a piece of crap.

@Gabyavocado

2 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

@dexine4723

2 жыл бұрын

I've always found it sad that her talent was never fully recognized until many years after her death, and the fact that we still read her novels today is telling, when most other authors of that time are long forgotten (not surprisingly, having read a few of their works!). In 1817, the only public reference to Jane Austen by name is in the newspapers that reported her death in July. Northanger Abbey and Persuasion, which came out in the December of that year, were simply advertised as by the Author of Pride and Prejudice etc.

What is this?! My favorite book and it is unrecognizable. Write your own stories! I pity the generation getting to know Jane Austen through Netflix.