Joker was like: you may have outsmarted me but i have outsmarted your outsmarting!

@bradless8418

3 жыл бұрын

Is that a jojo reference I see?

@ayat991234

3 жыл бұрын

Basically yeah

@kurokie3691

3 жыл бұрын

@@bradless8418 it is

@alexjosephluther6317

2 жыл бұрын

@@bradless8418 before u say YES THIS IS A JOJO’S REFERENCE

@madhatter8167

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexjosephluther6317 first, we plan around their plan, then they plan around tha plan, zen ve plan around their plan on planning around our plan ... truly brilliant, major

Joker: Gets rank 10 confidant with Sae The game: Congratulations, you can now create *Satan.*

@buddercat45

Жыл бұрын

Joker dies shortly after

@belembolanos7214

Жыл бұрын

@@buddercat45 not really joker

@Monty2289

Жыл бұрын

There's a pretty gnostic reason why Satan is the ultimate Persona of Judgement

@buddercat45

Жыл бұрын

@belem bolanos ik

@stupidanon5941

Жыл бұрын

@@Monty2289 Not just Gnosticism; 'Satan as judge' is a pretty common notion in Jewish mysticism and even some mainstream denominations of Christianity, due in no small part to the parable in which Jesus talks about people being "delivered up to the torturer." There's a ton of really cool stuff like that in this game. I swear, somebody looked into my brain and made this game for me specifically.

Joker saying 'It was a breeze' in response to all the drugs he was given makes me think; maybe all the clinical trials with Takemi helped him tolerate the ones given to him. Consider how often Takemi's experiemental drugs rendered him woozy or unconscious

@FirstNameLastName-lg7yz

2 жыл бұрын

I never even thought of that. Genius. Though given how his memory was shoddy near the end, they probably enchanted their own drugs to counteract it.

@deathlywinter2995

2 жыл бұрын

@@FirstNameLastName-lg7yz Those are cool Theories. Though it ONLY works, if the Drugs he takes at Takemis clinic, are from the same Substance Group (or maybe from the similar Pharmacological Receptor-"Working-Places") or similar in the way they operate at certain receptors and stuff. It could very well be, that her Drugs didnt help at all, because she didnt use similar Substances to the "Truth"-Serum they injected him with into his Veines. But if they were lucky, maybe they did test with similar Drugs, and he thankfulls build a tolerance to help him endure it better. Both Scenarios are possible!

@HeLloThEre54096

2 жыл бұрын

But Tae’s confidant is ultimately optional right? So if you didn’t even get far or even start Tae’s path, this result would still have happened, at least that’s what I think, never played the game myself but excited to this October

@minisculex3

Жыл бұрын

@@HeLloThEre54096 yes but she is the first confidant that u encounter and first available confidant to you outside of ur team mate so most player would most likely go to her and given how she is like the best hp recovery item to buy from so her confidant first rank is used as a tutorial

@zionnemakoma1398

Жыл бұрын

@@minisculex3 And also, the game likely assumes you took every confidant. after all, the way Sae speaks, implies it to be like that

Anybody else thought they got the bad ending when joker got shot 💀

@princeking8608

2 жыл бұрын

That was EXACTLY what I was thinking bruh🤦🏾‍♂️

@henryduncan5007

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, and then Ryuji watched the news broadcast, smirked, said “We got em…” and I screamed

@Hairy-eyes

2 жыл бұрын

I was like "ah shit here we go again

@l8nghts

2 жыл бұрын

@@henryduncan5007 YES I THOUGHT RYUJI BETRAYED THEM OR SOMETHING 😂

@jayplays1710

2 жыл бұрын

@@henryduncan5007 I imagine a timeline in the bad ending where he fails, gets shot for real, and the others thinking the succeded when he actually dies

Fun Fact: I almost quit and restarted my game when I saw Akechi shot Joker; I thought I got the bad ending. *The Phantom Thieves' plan was so fucking clever it can even fool the player!*

@Kagetora-

Жыл бұрын

Lotta people thought we got the bad ending too lol

@Troy_The_Boi

Жыл бұрын

i kid you not, i spent like 20 minutes walking around my living room in circles because i was so baffled about what happened

@christopherjohnston2573

Жыл бұрын

I spent like 15 minutes sitting in my living room thinking it was because I didn’t raise his confidant level high enough before Sae’s palace.

@RickySama240

Жыл бұрын

I actually got the bad ending due to me not choosing the right answer to Sae during the interrogation. It's a good think i got the extra save file.. xD

@the.astromeda

11 ай бұрын

Atlus: "to trick the antagonist, first you must trick the player"

Perfect timing at 43:47. Sojiro: Is this for real? Akechi: Yes.

@kerrygamer9359

3 жыл бұрын

That's perfect continue speak

18:45 if you look closely, half of Ren’s face has his hair form a shape like glasses. The other half of his face looks like his mask in the metaverse.

@zzach_attack4602

2 жыл бұрын

You're right. That's pretty cool.

@ritun4656

2 жыл бұрын

Omgosh!! I'd have never ever noticed that. Thank youuuu for pointing out! That's such amazing character design.

@amronfaro9728

2 жыл бұрын

Akira is basically a bishounen. He was designed to be cute and handsome, especially with his shaggy hair.

@FinalKHXIII

2 жыл бұрын

Never noticed that, that’s pretty cool

@Chantyman_

2 жыл бұрын

wow you are right

i knew naming joker "jesus" was the right choice.

@theoutsiderjess4869

3 жыл бұрын

I named him loki in the original persona 5 then Tony stark but I always wanted to call him Danny Phantom to tho

@murasakino101

2 жыл бұрын

@@theoutsiderjess4869 why didn't I think of this lmao. I named him rusty nutz lol

@deny_all_spades

2 жыл бұрын

@@murasakino101 XDDDD

@tooru5244

Жыл бұрын

But Door-kun is the true jesus in persona universe :(

@Meowjocat

Жыл бұрын

@@theoutsiderjess4869Lol I named mine after Kageyama Tobio from Haikyuu in full caps by accident it’s pretty funny. The fact that Volleyball was the first topic 😅😂

This went from being the “joker” in a deck of cards to being a reverse UNO card

@PChamileon97

2 жыл бұрын

nah. he became the deck’s ACE

That's why Akechi wears gloves. To cover/protect his fingerprints.

@JeyVGaming

Жыл бұрын

Welcome to Crime Scene Investigation 101.

@Cabes822

Жыл бұрын

@@JeyVGaming 💀

@rainoftime37

4 ай бұрын

It's a pretty good character design trait. To wear gloves means you're being secretive and covering your tracks, and the fact that Akechi is wearing them in the real world (in his normal design, anyway) may have been a hint at that.

I honestly feel bad for Sojiro, he asked what happened and he gets told of the metaverse, the cat can talk, ETC. I get that it's a way to explain to the player and audience what happened but the poor dude couldn't wrap his head around any of this

@KurlzzPlays

2 жыл бұрын

If I were the phantom theives I would have taken sae and sojiro into mementos at some point

@daleketchup7434

2 жыл бұрын

@@KurlzzPlays but then the plot would demand that they get their own personas and join the Phantom Thieves. Here’s my takeaway, any human that enters the Metaverse with the Phantom Thieves will ALWAYS have them summon a persona

@KurlzzPlays

2 жыл бұрын

@@daleketchup7434 not necessarily. In persona 3 NPCs including social links would wander into tartarus. None of them got personas or joined the party

@daleketchup7434

2 жыл бұрын

@@KurlzzPlays except that’s Persona 3. I’m talking Persona 5

@KurlzzPlays

2 жыл бұрын

@@daleketchup7434 ok persona 5 strikers. Zenkeichi. He enterd Alice's jail at the very beginning of it. Left said jail without a persona. Sure he awakened valjean but that was in the Hakane arc later in the game. Sae and sojiro could easily listen to mona speak, not get a persona and leave. I mean sae was technically in the metaverse albeit temporarily

I’m kinda glad they gave Akechi a real confidant because getting Rank 8 here was awkward as hell

@MothDax

Жыл бұрын

Akechi: Kills joker in cold blood *I feel a strong resolve from Akechi* *RANK 8*

@17:32 Akechi: Foolish woman... Players: No u.

@Salapraus

3 жыл бұрын

(Laughter) "You dumb bitch."

@Stryfe52

3 жыл бұрын

17:32 me when the underpaid McDonald’s employee asks if I want napkins with my drink:

You just *know* Joker was laughing his ass off when the plan worked.

Assuming even Akechi's plan succeeded and Joker died, I think Sae would have noticed something was amiss. For a high school detective prince, Akechi really doesn't know the meaning of subtlety 16:15 So they let some High school kid interrogate a notorious murderer without any kind of supervision, and then a few hours later he "killed himself."

@borisjohnson5417

3 жыл бұрын

Not really it just means beating them. It would be more sus if he didnt say that as all the law would want to make the leader give them names no matter what and sae is corrupt as shown in the casino anyway

@Idasukimase

3 жыл бұрын

@@borisjohnson5417 More sus? He's an underage boy with no supervision or escort who has no business down here waltzing into the cell of a notorious murderer (When Sae, a well respected Prosecutor had to fight tooth and nail to just get what an hour with Joker?) Him saying essentially he expected things got violent even before anything even happened is fishy. Sae even mentioned the "other culprit" out of the blue. Then a few hours later, he managed to "kill himself"? Especially since Prison guards, unless escorting, on a watch tower, or off duty aren't allowed to carry firearms. You mean to tell me a 16 year old (skinny one at that) managed to overpower a grown man (he would obviously be on guard against him anyway) so that he managed to take his gun and kill him with it?

@ci7210

3 жыл бұрын

@@Idasukimase well Akechi is 18 by the time you meet him. So he isn't underaged. But still he's considered a rookie detective. Why would he have clearance if Sae is higher up had issues

@Idasukimase

3 жыл бұрын

@@ci7210 His age is iffy since it was never directly stated, but since he is in his last year of HS he's at least 17 or 18,which is at least legally an adult in most first world countries, but still, most people would consider 18 year olds kids outside of legal concerns.

@servebotfrank4082

3 жыл бұрын

Ideally no one would know Akechi was even down there.

The reason this is such a masterpiece is HOW they found out akechi was abit strange. The pancake remark Il the game explains it, but the fact that they just play it off as "haha funny meme line" is so perfect, it doesnt hit you that THATS whats off until this point Then the fact that after joker's "death" ryuji just smirks as if pleased, because he and ALL the thieves know that their gambit worked. And finally the scrne with our trickster just sitting there, smirking like a dumbass because he outsmarted akechi at every oppertunity is just... Perfect Best twist in a persona game ever imho

@Voldrim359

Жыл бұрын

I have to point out, they remember that detail for months... So, i guess Joker and Morgana remember him, even more when he approached

@X1erra

Жыл бұрын

Now you know the real reason why pancake is associated with Akechi as a meme. Nobody can tell you why up to this point because it's spoilers. But it's great that the players are being rewarded should they notice this on the scene if they pay close enough attention ^^

@tendingsbrother7057

Жыл бұрын

The best plot twist in all storytelling!

@thatitalianlameguy2235

Жыл бұрын

Nah adachi is still better

@fyrebirdd

Жыл бұрын

i noticed this on my first play through and was so confused how no characters noticed. i was so happy to be wrong. this is probably one of the best stories i’ve experienced in games (closely followed by god of war ragnarok)

I love when he says have you finally peiced it all together and Akira just sits there unbothered 😂

@TheRealSlimShady509

3 жыл бұрын

Ren*

@Novictus

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealSlimShady509 Im not gonna stop calling him Akira

@TheRealSlimShady509

2 жыл бұрын

@@Novictus thats fine. As long as you are cool with being factually incorrect and looking like an idiot

@tenkazuu

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealSlimShady509 both names are canon, knock that off

@yua293

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheRealSlimShady509 🤓

Ryugi’s “we got em” is the greatest thing in the world

In another lifetime, L defeats Kira, and lives.

@missasyan

3 жыл бұрын

but in here kira is actually a good guy?? haha lmao

@wackjumpr

2 жыл бұрын

@@missasyan kira was always the good guy

@bluefeatherdark

2 жыл бұрын

@@wackjumpr Why tf are there still Kira apologists in 2021

@musiccaptain9238

Жыл бұрын

In another lifetime, L is Teddie and Kira is Ryuji.

@hommefataltaemin

Жыл бұрын

@@bluefeatherdark Kira apologists 😭😂😂 never heard that term before but I love it

His persona is the great gentleman thief, and after reading some of the Arsené Lupin stories this is something he would have done in this situation! Awesome way to really show Joker’s cleverness

Ryuji: *chuckling* We got'em. Me: *evil chuckling* Everything went well according to plan.

@KhiemNguyen-ly1wz

3 жыл бұрын

Everything is according to keikaku.

@cracarlos_au1406

3 жыл бұрын

@@KhiemNguyen-ly1wz (translator notes) Keikaku means plan

@Gabycretin

2 жыл бұрын

@@cracarlos_au1406 Thanks dude.

@cracarlos_au1406

2 жыл бұрын

@@Gabycretin youre welcome!

@RedDrake110

2 жыл бұрын

@@KhiemNguyen-ly1wz Subete wa Keikaku dori.

Akechi: I tricked the trickster Joker: I tricked the trickster tricker

This part was so well told, going in, we all knew Akechi bad. What we didn't know was if the Phantom Thiefs knew and how would they outsmart him even if they did. I had totally forgotten the pancake scene earlier and honestly, Futaba being that bold to install an app on Akechi phone infront of him was beyond what I thought you could do.

Akechi disliked this cause he got duped. Actually in retrospect, he should have known something was off when Joker didn't fight back, or attempt to save himself.

@borisjohnson5417

3 жыл бұрын

He doesnt do that when you actually die either. If you fail to meet the deadline it cuts to a scene of joker getting shot in the head but not the fake one. Thats one of the reasons he was filled with drugs and beaten as akechi works for shido who ahs all of those officers in his pocket

@randomman4628

3 жыл бұрын

@@borisjohnson5417 yeah that makes more sense actually. Know what it's like to have enough drugs in your system to fill out a pharmacy. It's not pleasant.

@vulthurmir2478

3 жыл бұрын

@@randomman4628 writing from experience?

@randomman4628

3 жыл бұрын

@@vulthurmir2478 HA...... yeaaahhhh

@X1erra

Жыл бұрын

Not true. The bad endings (if you sell out your friends, or fail to meet deadline), they play out the same way... except you really die. Drugs are strong :(

"Akechi is merely a tool." -- Actual thing Makoto has said

@phantomthiefjoker939

Жыл бұрын

Very true.

33:07 : i like this part he was so smug

@kobayakawa4276

Жыл бұрын

Yes thats the best part XD

Something funny, perhaps even ironic that could’ve happened was after Akechi shoots Joker he just starts whistling Last Surprise

@derrickdaniels3955

Жыл бұрын

Oh shit, that's good, that's hilarious 😆

@moonflight1867

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I need that in my life- it would be very in-character, too.

Remember kids, if you ever play a persona game never ever trust a detective that starts with an "A" and ends with an "I". (especially if they are a male)

so the changed dialogue was just marketing... makes sense, but it would have also alluded to the fact that doing Akechi's Confidant is optional

@backtoklondike

3 жыл бұрын

Thing is that it was so obvious that Akechi was going to be the traitor and if you've played Persona 4 Golden and it also had an optional social link where it turned out that they were the murderer. So people had him pegged before the original game was even out. And I believe that's what Atlus was counting on, that was never the twist but rather that characters also knew that right from the start

@jokingbanana1042

3 жыл бұрын

@@backtoklondike also unlike persona 4, this game isn’t a mystery with themes about the truth, so akechi being a traitor isn’t of thematic significance. Like you said, the real twist is joker faking his death.

@murasakino101

2 жыл бұрын

@@backtoklondike agree 100%. I remember people complaining about how big of a let down it was that akechi was the killer when the devs obviously wouldn't make it that simple without a reason. It was meant to be shocking in persona 4 but with 5 I wasn't at ALL expecting how joker with fake his death and how well the thieves set it up, especially since they didn't do the best job at keeping their identities a secret (looking at ryuji even though I love him lol). I like the joker twist a lot

@lightningkiki6090

2 жыл бұрын

@@jokingbanana1042 For me a big part of the twist was also the extent of Akechi's intentions. Before this chapter people know he is going to betray them, but they believe he is doing this because he is a detective and wants to catch the phantom thieves because he believes they are criminals, that his intentions are moral. Players at that point also don't believe he is black mask and that is someone else. At least that's how it was for me. However it's revealed that his entire personality is fake. He isn't a detective at all, he's a psychopath, he is black mask and behind the mental shut downs etc. and his true intentions are selfish, he wants revenge on his father. That was a shock to me, I really thought he really believed the phantom thieves were bad and he was doing what he does for moral justice, but everything was a facade. I thought he was a decent person, but once he walks into the room and points a gun at you, I realised "oh he is far more dangerous then I anticipated" and there is more to this then I had realised Akechi is such an interesting character to me, especially with the royal content. The contrast of "good boy" akechi and "everyday akechi" is so striking and shows how manipulative he is. He's complex as well, he's a psychopath, he has no empathy . However I also don't think he is evil, He is selfish but at no point does he try to harm others apart from trying to reach his goal of revenge on shido, he doesn't care about controlling others, power, or anything like that, he isn't like any of the other antagonists in this regard.

@stripschicken87

2 жыл бұрын

@@backtoklondike its not optional in base persona 5 so your statement isnt true also every confidant/social link is optional

Those people on the Phan site are painfully accurate to real social media trolls. "High School age criminal kills himself in custody" Some Fucking guy: "What a sore loser"

Imagine how different this would've gone if Joker had Arahabaki or Rangda equipped.

@stripschicken87

2 жыл бұрын

The true true ending. But no 3rd semester.

@watersheep5535

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine accidentally kill yourself because the bullet reflects off the person you're trying to kill

@AnInkStick

Жыл бұрын

@@stripschicken87 and nothing of value is lost

@FireTalon24

Жыл бұрын

@InkStick What are you on about? The third semester was great.

The plot twist, twisted even further.

@shortfuze6870

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a plot corkscrew

@AlienQueen376

2 жыл бұрын

I think this broke the twist it on the bop it toy

@anibalhyrulesantihero7021

11 ай бұрын

I think the plot turned into a pretzel.

So the plan was basically this: Get Sae to show Akechi the smartphone which causes him to unwittingly enter Sae's metaverse. Since Sae had just seen Joker in the interrogation room, her cognition would reflect that, leading to Akechi unknowingly killing the fake Joker and sparing the real one. While it's a good plan on the surface, the jig would have been up if: 1. Akechi tried to call Shido before exiting the metaverse. The call would not have gone through since there's no signals there. 2. Joker's shadow disintegrated immediately after being killed in front of Akechi's eyes. I seriously don't know why it didn't. 3. Anyone bothered to check the body. (I understand everyone involved was in Shido's pocket, but seriously, you're telling me not a single person bothered to check the body? Nobody wanted the confirmation? Hell, nobody was even curious?)

@hoangvu9484

Жыл бұрын

For your second point, the guard's dead body only disappear after sae told him to leave in the real world, i think sae returned to the room the same time akechi left but they are in different world ( based on the conversation about "meet mid-assassionation" )

Akechi first mistake 42:15

@YoyIeCake

4 жыл бұрын

Imagine getting screwed over by pancakes

@sonoda944

4 жыл бұрын

*D E L I C I O U S P A N C A K E S*

@CrasherX2000

3 жыл бұрын

Somehow I missed that during that specific moment Then when this came around it all made sense

@Rapidfre

3 жыл бұрын

‘Twas a mis”cake”

@Shiverwar

3 жыл бұрын

@@Rapidfre After that, he never wants to hear anything about pancakes.

Aight hear me out for a sec. Akechi shot Joker in mementos, right? Now what if Joker has a persona that Rpl gunfire? Akechi would've shot himself lmao😭🤚🏻

@mattsucksatyoutube3404

Жыл бұрын

it was a cognitive version of joker, i dont think he would have a persona

@victoriawhitcomb6475

Жыл бұрын

That would've been fucking hilarious

@toxicdemon1315

7 ай бұрын

It wasn't Mementos, it was Sae's palace.

18:33 *surprised anime face*

When joker showed back up he just says to them “I lived bit€#”

@Kyogrewaterspout

2 жыл бұрын

My death was greatly exaggerated

I feel bad for the people that already figure out all the details behind Akechi's treacherous motives and then the game basically insults your intelligence

@FireTalon24

Жыл бұрын

I pieced together early that it was Akechi when I saw the killer was left-handed and some other hints. It kinda did feel like "no moron left behind" with the explanations. That and Kasumi's reveal being explained 3 times one after another.

9:48 Nijima: Hey I was about to think " *Coffee good for you?* "

@Stryfe52

3 жыл бұрын

Akira Kurusu. That is your name, yes?

@RuneThunder67_Official

2 жыл бұрын

That's right.

A bit of an "oops", probably on the developer side at 42:55 Original persona 5 showed the image of Futaba with the gang outside of Sai's palace during that part. Here they show the bedroom with no Akechi to take the phone from...oops.

@fagitocumaeda

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah i found that weird

@borisjohnson5417

3 жыл бұрын

Its cutting back to the conversation where the app is first mentioned to explain why that conversation was relevant

Akechi was undermined by the one thing he truly loved; pancakes.

28:43 seeing Ryuji's face turn to a smile was the biggest holy shit moment I've had in a long time

When I heard that plan about how he survived, it caught me so off guard I screamed

why didn’t these dudes ever bring sojiro into the metaverse for a few seconds so he can understand morgana?

@powerpc64

Жыл бұрын

i wondered this too

@ThatGuyKh1

Жыл бұрын

I never understood this either

@MC-ns8gb

Жыл бұрын

I don't know if that's all it takes. Didn't Sae enter the metaverse during the interrogation? Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but I thought she entered in the same place that akechi did

@ThatGuyKh1

Жыл бұрын

@@MC-ns8gb she never heard morgana talk or came into contact with him when she was in so it didnt do anyhting

@branlopgar

Жыл бұрын

​@@MC-ns8gb She did, but she never heard Morgana talk, so to her, he's still just a good ol' cat. And they even think of this same strategy in Strikers, when they get Zenkichi (I know, he was a Persona user, but they didn't know at that moment, and his Persona wasn't awakened yet) into Alice's jail so he can see it and hear Morgana's voice. So it is truly a mystery why they didn't get Sojiro and Sae to the entrance of Mementos and then back out once they heard Morgana.

(13:41) *Sae:* I can’t believe this. I felt like such an idiot now not realizing that it wasn’t you who was the culprit. The true culprit is him. Isn’t it?

To the arguments saying Akechi being the traitor is super obvious because of [reasons]: 1. It's not that obvious if you've never even played the other Persona games, let alone P4 2. It's also not that obvious if you're not someone who typically watches a lot of anime and can recognize anime tropes from a mile away 3. Even if it was super obvious that Akechi was the traitor, him being the true culprit isn't because the game throws a g**damn red herring at you by making the true culprit's costume and Akechi's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. Which isn't even explained until like two more hours into the game 4. The one clue that the game DOES give you is played off so casually, it just makes it look like it's just a minor plot hole that gets buried away with the other 70+ hours of story before it actually becomes relevant. The first time I watched that scene, I didn't even realize only Morgana said "pancakes", because I thought I also heard it from Ann and Ryuji. That kind of Mandela shit happens because the game deliberately makes the whole scene rather unremarkable and not even worthy of the player's attention That being said, that's to say I didn't have suspicions of my own though. Because of the fact that Akechi was really the only one who even "saw" the true culprit at the scene of Shadow Okumura's murder, it was virtually impossible for anyone else to verify his story, so he could literally make up any story he wanted. Added to the fact that, even though we saw him near the Phantom Thieves vicinity as they went into Okumura's palace for the first time, the game doesn't immediately bring it up like it did with Ann back when she was accidentally pulled into Kamoshidas castle for the first time. So I still found it odd that the game would just NOT show us Akechi following the Phantom Thieves the whole time they were in Okumura's Palace.

@goncalves2724

2 жыл бұрын

it was not obvious

@AlienQueen376

2 жыл бұрын

Eh not obvious but I was kinda suspecting he would be evil just because of they way he talked and how much he was focused on (I don’t watch anime but I can just tell)

@kame8132

Жыл бұрын

i thought he was suspicious back when everyone was calling the thieves murderers after the whole Okumura incident, cause he didn't just shit on them and say they were, but when he showed the picture of the "real" picture of the guy who killed okumura, i was starting to change my mind, cause even though he was present when we went into the palace, i didn't think he literally would take a picture of himself + the different costume things

@cocoabeanz6171

Жыл бұрын

I was suspicious the instant I saw his last name. It's the same last name as the man who betrayed and killed Oda Nobunaga: Akechi Mitsuhide.

@arclight7892

Жыл бұрын

@@goncalves2724 It was obvious. Everything that led to him joining the group was too convenient for him. His sudden change from not supporting the phantom thieves on television to not condemning them when the masses were against them was a lure for the phantom thieves to go to him. His motives for joining were also suspicuous, saying that he knows who the true culprit was and was just as experienced as the group when he first joined them in their fights in the metaverse.

20:08 Akechi is making a call to the real Shido. How did he return from metaverse then? The exit should be upstairs where Akechi and Sae met.

@aname4141

3 жыл бұрын

Not really. The return point is wherever you entered the metaverse. Since Akechi entered the metaverse in the hallway, he would’ve been back in the real world by the time he entered the elevator.

@CJluvsMJ27

3 жыл бұрын

That’s what I said. You can see that he’s still on the bottom floor based on the elevator button. Either the devs overlooked this...or something else was going on.

@derrickdaniels3955

Жыл бұрын

@@CJluvsMJ27 Perhaps he was calling a cognitive Shido?

@Ihatechoosingnames242

Жыл бұрын

@@derrickdaniels3955 Cognitiv shido wouldnt be an evil bastard because sae doesnt know he is one so her cognition of him would be different

@aarontoh7954

7 ай бұрын

Actually, that hallway is where both Sae and Akechi entered the metaverse. However, you need to go back to where you enter the metaverse in order to exit it. Both Sae and Akechi entered it at the same time, but they went in different directions. So when Akechi was walking back to the hallway, he had left the metaverse and he's back to the real world, while Sae is still in the metaverse. Then Akechi walked into the elavator and called Shido If you look back at 23:16, you can see the distortion once again when Sae eventually walked back to the same hallway. That is the moment Sae left the metaverse, and she was talking to the real guard and the real MC.@@CJluvsMJ27

18:41 Have you pieced it all together? I AM KIRA

Brilliance....this is Atlus' version of Sherlock vs Moriarty, save for Akechi not committing suicide.

@DJJokersWilde

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of Arsené Lupin Vs Sherlock Holmes. Joker’s initial persona is based off of the great gentleman thief and this is exactly something Arsené Lupin would do if he had access to the metaverse

The music change in the interrogation scene is genius. The way it uses that track throughout the game builds it to when you hear it in this moment and you know shit is about to go down!

33:13 Damn! This is like the usual suspects. What a twist. The crook really had us fooled!

Should we call it the pancake plot twist plan?

@Vicente480

3 жыл бұрын

All because of Akechi's miscake

@AlienQueen376

2 жыл бұрын

I like that idea

I had a feeling from beginning something was off with Akechi. After this happened i shouted "i knew it!".

@FifaPRg

2 жыл бұрын

Personally I knew something was up is when we didn’t seem him turn into his persona. He was really strong to begin with and I thought that cant be

38:50 what's with Joker's new reaction compared to the vanilla one?!

@servebotfrank4082

3 жыл бұрын

I supposed a gut reaction from everyone sprinting at him.

So Joker just pulled a GIANT Uno reverse card

@AlienQueen376

2 жыл бұрын

Nah he pulled a rainbow one

Ace detective? More like Goro asskechi ace defective

28:42 is one of the coolest moments in the game

33:15 lupin the third be so damn proud

What would've made this scene even better imo is all the phantom thieves (except Joker) met up somewhere with looks of despair and devastation, they look at one another, they smirk and all say, "we got em"

42:15 THEREFORE, he was eavesdropping.

Sure Ren Amamiya smiled 33:20 to trick to Akechi. But playable on 3rd semester.

@borisjohnson5417

3 жыл бұрын

His smile doesnt have anything to do with this

@TheGoku741

3 жыл бұрын

Engrish hard

i play games almost 20 years watch a bunch of anime,series and movies and i never will guess akechi was the traitor only realise when the flashbacks comes more clear about the team mate traitor, only could be one guy but how?and why? when it was flashback he hears morgana how i miss that . Amazing foreshadow

I like that yusuke only paited a bird Alone in the world but it isnt giving up from flying

don’t worry about me, this is just a time stamp for myself 18:54

@iniyangti2616

3 жыл бұрын

EMA

@justacringymakotoyukifangi8825

3 жыл бұрын

ema

This all wouldn't have happened if he liked cabbages instead... Poor brat.

@General_C

4 жыл бұрын

Pancakes.

@NamelessEmiya

4 жыл бұрын

@@General_C ?

@noxxiaa

4 жыл бұрын

General C donuts.

@diogenes26

3 жыл бұрын

Shut up, Adachi! 👊

@TheGoku741

3 жыл бұрын

Cringe roleplayer

This whole part was one of the reasons why I was nearly late to work

Fascinating

When you realize the game devs had to come up with a plan like that to begin with 🤭

This was such a great moment.

As the song goes: 🎵 You'll never see it comiiiiiing!🎶

I felt quite proud of myself to discover the twist. It was a darn good twist too

Joker: "You're smart I'll tell you that but don't mess with the Joker"

his slow walking, and then how it looked like he effortlessly cocked the gun outta experience. damn coming back to this video to check out the higher quality 3d animation for akechi killing the guard...it was so smooth and to me looked even better than persona awakenings cus i'm a simp lol (except yusuke that awakening was sick)

@dreamofsomeepiphany3502

2 жыл бұрын

I swear he was murder strutting

@derrickdaniels3955

Жыл бұрын

@@dreamofsomeepiphany3502 Thats a nice name for it

@Cabes822

Жыл бұрын

After reviewing this scene a couple of times, I think he didn't cock the gun, I think he put the Muffler on, because Akechi took it off when he placed it on Joker's hand. The gun was already cocked and loaded, but he needed to make sure no one else heard it. Pretty smart, but he got outsmarted in the end.

@Cabes822

Жыл бұрын

To add to this, he also stuffed the muffler into his coat, proving that it was his to begin with.

22:03 is anyone gonna talk about his death more like a ragdoll?

When you thought you predicted what the twist was but you only had half of it down

Sae: did you die? Joker: sadly yes. But I lived!

The fact that the other Phantom Thieves seemed genuinely shocked other than Ryuji makes me wonder if he was the only one who had faith in the plan...

@lc3212

9 ай бұрын

Well it was a crazy plan that had so many possible ways it could have got messed up. So to feel a bit shocked and relieved it all worked the way they planned. Ryuji always goes all in so him ignoring any doubts makes sense for his character.

@juliagoodwin9510

9 ай бұрын

@@lc3212 Fair enough.

It's no Death Note but it will do.

I’m so addicted to this game someone help

28:43 At this moment I went “You what?”

29:28 is where they start explaining how the everyone heck they did that.

They basically put him under a genjutsu......LIT!!!

The fact that I could've saw this scene and realised the whole plan angers me because my old PS3 broke. Luckily I'd managed to grab the Royal-Physical version of the game. Buuuut that still doesn't change the fact I was a complete FOOL to not have realised Akechi understood Morgana because Mona was the ONLY one who mentioned Pancakes and for anyone who's actually played the game, is aware of how his voice works. I fuckin' love this game and plan to expand my knowledge of the franchise by playing the older games before this one and games after this one.

So you're telling me all these high school kids who are always hanging out in public in every scene of the crime who all happen to have connections to every case and then act shocked when NPCs find out it's them managed to pull off that kind of master plan?... Also, the fact that Akechi has been telegraphed for about 30 hours of the game to be super sketch was supposed to be a surprise?... Nah but for real this is game is pretty dope and the soundtrack is tits so I'll let all the aforementioned slide this time lol

@lc3212

9 ай бұрын

As for your first point yea it does seem far fetched but I toss things like that to gaming logic lol. As for Akechi for myself I could see he had ultierior motives and was most likely involved in everything but I didn’t think that on offhand comment by him about pancakes was gonna lead to him getting outsmarted lol. I’d love to know what the writers in the room were thinking when planning how the story for this game cause as silly and crazy as the plot can be this whole situation being based on a comment like that creating a chain of events that leads to an antagonists downfall cause of a breakfast food sounds so silly but works so damn well for this game in my opinion. Lol

For each phantom thief they have some sort of bird in there small animation

27:13 I know teachers who actually speak like this . I don't know why but something about it pisses me off. Maybe the comparison? Maybe the implication that they'll speak the same about me if I ever dissapoint them?

Me: I had a feeling you were the the one responsible behind the mental shutdowns Akechi. Reina: I had the same feeling too. Seliph: The same goes for me too.

@phantomthiefjoker939

3 жыл бұрын

Not just Akechi, Shido Masayoshi is the Ultimate Criminal Mastermind.

@stripschicken87

2 жыл бұрын

Who is reina and seliph

35.09 "Akechi is a tool..." On THAT point, we can agree.

My chest felt heavy AF during this entire section

One of my favorite plot twists in all of gaming.

It would’ve been easier to just slip sojiro and sae into the Metaverse so they could comprehend Morgana

And I quote Lyn Inaizumi, "You'll never see it coming!"

I got so scared cuz I thought I got the bad ending, and I almost screamed when I saw Ryuji smirk

Joker: I love it when a plan comes together!

This had me fooled so royally I was screaming

Once again, it's stuff like this that makes me wish Persona 5 Royal was available on the Switch. Or at least on PC.

@mz-power9587

2 жыл бұрын

it's your lucky day

@stripschicken87

2 жыл бұрын

@@mz-power9587 and also now we get p3p and p4g on new gen consoles so you dont need psnow

@karenpowellwright5624

Жыл бұрын

Have fun

I cried like a bitch the whole time this was happening, I came here just to watch it again and cry some more I was so shocked but then so happy 😭😭

Ryuji is the true culprit and I can proof it.

@misterbee5521

3 жыл бұрын

For real?

@borisjohnson5417

3 жыл бұрын

@@misterbee5521 no

@phantomthiefjoker939

3 жыл бұрын

*imitation buzzer* EHHHHH!!!!!!! WRONG!!!!!!!!!

18:10 lol Seems like the guard had a silenced weapon fetish that he had permission to have one. Good thing he managed to get one otherwise he would be stuck with a revolver that is issued to police, huh

@falseposting

3 жыл бұрын

you’ll see akechi pull out a silencer from his jacket

@dreameroffire6495

3 жыл бұрын

@@falseposting And dang, did ya see how fast he did it? That was fluid. That was practiced. That was the moment where several hearts stopped.

@MichaelVickers2007

3 жыл бұрын

@@dreameroffire6495 and in the anime you see him put it on

@JerryMcB3rry

3 жыл бұрын

I still find it so funny that society has no idea how silencers actually work, and even Japan is using them the movie way of eliminating all the sound of the gunshot, when it's more just muffles it a bit so your ears don't explode. Not an issue with the game, I just think it's funny that Hollywood's influence on that front has reached Japan as well.

@dreameroffire6495

3 жыл бұрын

@@JerryMcB3rry Guns, in general, aren't well understood by many people either, sooo it could be the influence of Hollywood, but it could also be a typical "fiction does not completely portray something like the real deal" type situation. As guns aren't so easy to come by in Japan, they may have chosen to go this route on purpose(?).

Damn this was a 4-D chess era plan.